GMS apps notification issue? - Huawei P40 Pro Questions & Answers

Hello everyone,
I'm using P40 Pro. I installed GMS before 3 weeks, it's working good for me. I don't get any GMS error notifications I did software update it's still working.
But I have problems with apps notifications, I don't get notifications for like:
-Twitter
-LinkedIn
-Workplace
-Spark mail
-Other apps
Battery opt. it's not a problem, I think it's a main problem with GMS.
I would like to know if there is anyway to get all notifications working normally? I don't want to use AuroraStore or freeze my GMS.
Or it's better to get back on stock HMS and use ACMarket, Apptoide, etc. to get my notifications working 100%?
Thank you.

mark.brune said:
Or it's better to get back on stock HMS and use ACMarket, Apptoide, etc. to get my notifications working 100%?
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Notifications are broken for many apps with HMS-naked install .. so it is far from 100%.
I am using HMS+microG and it fixes notifications with many apps ... but not all unfortunately ... maybe 60%
1. HMS-naked (broken notifications)
2. HMS+microG (notification fix – generally ok)
3. HMS+GMS (for google apps and broken notifications)
4. HMS+GMS+icebox (for google apps and notifications)

linux2525 said:
Notifications are broken for many apps with HMS-naked install .. so it is far from 100%.
I am using HMS+microG and it fixes notifications with many apps ... but not all unfortunately ... maybe 60%
1. HMS-naked (broken notifications)
2. HMS+microG (notification fix – generally ok)
3. HMS+GMS (for google apps and broken notifications)
4. HMS+GMS+icebox (for google apps and notifications)
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I started to use AuroraStore with frozen GSF.. After that everything started to work perfectly. I updated my GMS over AuroraStore, installed Google Duo.. All notifications started to work. So happy. :laugh::victory:

mark.brune said:
I started to use AuroraStore with frozen GSF.. After that everything started to work perfectly. I updated my GMS over AuroraStore, installed Google Duo.. All notifications started to work. So happy. :laugh::victory:
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Kindly, can you write all steps for this solution?

t0nix31 said:
Kindly, can you write all steps for this solution?
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I need this too, i've look into other posts but there is no detailed guide yet.
Could someone provide the guideline please.

t0nix31 said:
Kindly, can you write all steps for this solution?
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zoold3vil said:
I need this too, i've look into other posts but there is no detailed guide yet.
Could someone provide the guideline please.
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Download & install Huawei multi-tool on your computer: https://pro-teammt.ru/en/multi-tool-huawei-honor/
Connect your Huawei to your PC and open the multi tool.
Go to the "Modifications" tab
In "Disabling/enabling applications" just disable com.google.android.gsf
And that's it.

I am starting to lose the love for my P40 Pro ...
a) microG - almost perfect except notifications with Skype
b) GMS+icebox - I cannot add my gmail account into outlook.
Might pickup an S20 Ultra 5G on the way home.

linux2525 said:
I am starting to lose the love for my P40 Pro ...
a) microG - almost perfect except notifications with Skype
b) GMS+icebox - I cannot add my gmail account into outlook.
Might pickup an S20 Ultra 5G on the way home.
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Why S20 Ultra 5G? That thing has so many issues with exynos and camera autofocus.
I got my Gmail working fine on my Outlook.

I'm a bit confused why some people get different results from GMS HMS + icebox
I'm pretty happy with the 2 setups, the only annoying thing is when I need to update my apps on aurora store it's not automatic. I have to grant install one by one ?

jericho246 said:
Download & install Huawei multi-tool on your computer: https://pro-teammt.ru/en/multi-tool-huawei-honor/
Connect your Huawei to your PC and open the multi tool.
Go to the "Modifications" tab
In "Disabling/enabling applications" just disable com.google.android.gsf
And that's it.
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if i do that playstore stop working... Gmail still doesnt work
any tips?

n_jalves said:
if i do that playstore stop working... Gmail still doesnt work
any tips?
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gmail isn't gonna work so use "Outlook" app or something else and add your gmail account there. Works great for me.
Playstore isn't gonna work if you freeze Google services Framework. Obviously. You gonna have to use Aurora Store or Apk Pure. The point of this operation (freezing GSF) is to get notifications working. I had problems with notifications when having BOTH Huawei Mobile Services AND GSF.

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jericho246 said:
gmail isn't gonna work so use "Outlook" app or something else and add your gmail account there. Works great for me.
Playstore isn't gonna work if you freeze Google services Framework. Obviously. You gonna have to use Aurora Store or Apk Pure. The point of this operation (freezing GSF) is to get notifications working. I had problems with notifications when having BOTH Huawei Mobile Services AND GSF.
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Too bad, i'd rather used Playstore due to purchases that i made using it. I would rather not having notification to avoid the hassle with in-app purchase issue

If you freeze gsf with MT8 and unfreeze it, are there any problems. I tried something like that, I had icebox installed too, and after unfreeze at 6AM in the morning I've got a train of non-stop notification that my device is not certified by google.
Was that a side effect of freezing or just my playing with the services too much?

@sheikgr is right. But I did it slightly different, before unfreezing in icebox i opened Google Play Store - From the left menu i choose Play Protect and I turn off that function at all. Then i did unfreeze. Gmail/Maps, GPS itself.. all works fine.
But if true is what @madmack is claiming, i think its better to keep services freezed and simply to use bluemail/outlook instead of gmail. Because even if gmail is showing notification its always informs much much later than it should

TrupHC said:
@sheikgr is right. But I did it slightly different, before unfreezing in icebox i opened Google Play Store - From the left menu i choose Play Protect and I turn off that function at all. Then i did unfreeze. Gmail/Maps, GPS itself.. all works fine.
But if true is what @madmack is claiming, i think its better to keep services freezed and simply to use bluemail/outlook instead of gmail. Because even if gmail is showing notification its always informs much much later than it should
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Hi, I have a problem with some location based app, like Tripadvisor, after unfreezing: in place of the map, I get the message "Play services are updating" and the app can't get position.
If I freeze, some apps ask to enable high precision positiong by google and can't get position as well.
Did you experience these bugs? Thx

Just use the methods on this website ... Use Chrome to translate ... They are well written and reliable ... Factory reset and start fresh with this ..
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-google-installieren-anleitung-neu/

linux2525 said:
Just use the methods on this website ... Use Chrome to translate ... They are well written and reliable ... Factory reset and start fresh with this ..
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-google-installieren-anleitung-neu/
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Can you please explain something? As I see in the website , with one method you have playstore, apps etc working but no push notifications; the other one says no gms, appstore, etc but you get notifications. Is there a way to have both without the gms freezing trick?
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Can't have notifications and Google Play store at same time.
Keep frozen.
Google to find aurora appstore APK file and install for your apps and updates

I use outlook mail in exchange mode, and notification work immediately. Calendard and contact sync work like a charme

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Not registered for FCM after sideloading GMS

]I don't get notifications from alot of apps. I have side loaded Google services, stopped battery optimisation for apps and manual launch as well. But still not getting notified from alot of apps.
Turns out the reason is that the device is not registered for FCM. That's why none of the apps that use fcm for push notifications come through. Scratching my head as to how to resolve this. Any ideas are welcome.
I installed GMS by the LZplay method last year and have had no problems with notifications except late outlook notifications.
Same problem
mahdibassam said:
]I don't get notifications from alot of apps. I have side loaded Google services, stopped battery optimisation for apps and manual launch as well. But still not getting notified from alot of apps.
Turns out the reason is that the device is not registered for FCM. That's why none of the apps that use fcm for push notifications come through. Scratching my head as to how to resolve this. Any ideas are welcome.
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I have the same problem, but everything works other than that, but I can't get instant notifications, especially news, sport and some email apps. This has nothing to do with the app's battery optimization.
We need to find a solution to this.
gokhanozkan said:
I have the same problem, but everything works other than that, but I can't get instant notifications, especially news, sport and some email apps. This has nothing to do with the app's battery optimization.
We need to find a solution to this.
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I solved it by removing that google app mess I formatted the phone and left it without google and everything works beautifully. Google must be forgotten if you still haven't understood.
gokhanozkan said:
I have the same problem, but everything works other than that, but I can't get instant notifications, especially news, sport and some email apps. This has nothing to do with the app's battery optimization.
We need to find a solution to this.
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Il redo my google apps set up then, maybe that will fix the push notifications not being registered. il report back.
zaga1988 said:
I solved it by removing that google app mess I formatted the phone and left it without google and everything works beautifully. Google must be forgotten if you still haven't understood.
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The question is, if we dont sideload google services at all, and install news apps and etc from another apk source, would they still rely on FCM and google for push notifications?
mahdibassam said:
The question is, if we dont sideload google services at all, and install news apps and etc from another apk source, would they still rely on FCM and google for push notifications?
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Of course the problem is that when with this method 1 you install the google service framework and the google play service are their cause of the problem because the device is really locked even though it looks like the oaly store etc etc and is blocked by google. The only one that has the working method perhaps is phan phi with method 2 where he managed to create a game console as account management to access without problems with certification...... But it doesn't give the method
I have the same question. I don't know how to solve this problem.
Has anyone found a solution for this? :/ Seems like there's a flaw in this new method of installing GMS. The method before didn't have this issue... Hope someone can come up with a fix soon other than having to use ice box to freeze Google framework...
That is the solution of the notification problem:
hayals said:
That is the solution of the notification problem:
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It's always the same method icebox style, non difference. We can use PlayStore with this method and on AuroraStore we can buy app and signing with our google account is dangerous cause this last can be banned. Not a good method. We need a real solution, a real certification.
Is it possibile freeze and de-frost system app directly from this app without using every time adb with a pc and without root?
I mean if i give to it Admin permission is there this possibility?
denzel09 said:
Is it possibile freeze and de-frost system app directly from this app without using every time adb with a pc and without root?
I mean if i give to it Admin permission is there this possibility?
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Impossible bro
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denzel09 said:
It's always the same method icebox style, non difference. We can use PlayStore with this method and on AuroraStore we can buy app and signing with our google account is dangerous cause this last can be banned. Not a good method. We need a real solution, a real certification.
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as you know Huawei banned by Google so go for another phone if you want perfect GMS then, as US still banned Huawei and put it in the blacklist so never buy Huawei Phone.
Sathelp said:
I installed GMS by the LZplay method last year and have had no problems with notifications except late outlook notifications.
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Hi, from where you checked whether notifications are ok or not. I mean is there any app. Because i am also observing weird things about notifications
I use the push notifications app and also the outlook help file app
I can say that whitout google service and google push notification i didnt get notifications for skype, discord, steam, and most email apks tjst use google push notifications. So im forced to install it, also i block google framework so playstore doesent work but notifications work, sometime they stuck i reboot phone and they work again. With unfreezed google framework playstore work but notifications not... I dont need google framework, i remove all my google apks, i use edge instead chrome, omedrive photo instead google photo etc etc... But mu notifications doesent work even on factory reset phone... Except viber but he is instslled from huawei store.
I found a way to get Push Notification working without the Icebox app and freezing Google frame services.
GPS GSF FIX.zip
drive.google.com

this is how you can enjoy using the p40 even without google app huge list alternative

i wanted to paste the guide here but xda is not accepting my doc formatting please see the guide here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13X_ZZELINL5jIJZTcpPDRsmIGQ7cYMy6nuahJQJ5DzE/
Nice guide - albeit I couldn't overlook the irony of using Google Docs here!
Nice document. For me though it's not really the Google apps that I can't substitue, I hardly use any anyway. It's mainly apps that don't work because of GMS.
i have to say that having had this phone for a few days and trying to use it without play services it was becoming a struggle for me.
I downloaded as many of my apps i use from the app store and 3rd party sites but its just not the same. I forgot how much information i had stored with google like passwords and login details etc.
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
hpsauce37 said:
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
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Which guide did you follow? I see one on XDA and other ones floating around the web. Did you run into any issues or did the guide works step by step?
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
rambits said:
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
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But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
ptlsajan said:
But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
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You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
steveli92 said:
You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
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I tried that with OGyoutube and login in with microg service wasnt possible for me
hpsauce37 said:
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
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I followed the same guide and everything but the notifications works. Only notifications from a few apps work. All apps that require the Google services to get the notifications (about 85% for me) do not seem to work.
I too didn't managed to login with MicroG and without GMS...
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
arsenal74 said:
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
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It's funny that you mentioned eBay and The Athletic as they are two apps that I use quite regularly and am having the same issue - is there any way around this without installing GMS?
My P40 Pro only arrived a couple of days ago and I really like the look and feel of it but the notifications thing is already bugging me. Currently, I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
Tmel14 said:
I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
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install microG and move on .. notifications are completely screwed on HMS-naked .. even Huawei App Gallery apps are screwed-up with notifications .. very strange that this is often overlooked in the P40 Pro reviews ... how can you answer a skype call if the app never rings with a notification?

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so with this lz restore we can install gms the old way? like in this video correct? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn1pH-O3p00
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After using your walkthrough on YouTube I can use Google play store, however, I no longer get notifications for anything at all. Only thing I get is a few Gmail email notifications then after that nothing. It's like it fails push notifications after the first few Gmail ones it pushes.
Needless to say, an OS that doesn't push notifications on a phone is not usable. Any ideas?
buxz777 said:
hey firlando
long time no speak , hope you are well
so with this lz restore we can install gms the old way? like in this video correct? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn1pH-O3p00
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hi bro,
i am fine thank you
no still use the new one because Uncertified POP UP still occurs so you need use GMSMOD1 to stop the POP UP
cmarison said:
After using your walkthrough on YouTube I can use Google play store, however, I no longer get notifications for anything at all. Only thing I get is a few Gmail email notifications then after that nothing. It's like it fails push notifications after the first few Gmail ones it pushes.
Needless to say, an OS that doesn't push notifications on a phone is not usable. Any ideas?
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Hi there
Yes the problem because GMS and GFS is not connected so it stop the push notification.
if the push notification enable then the Uncertified POP UP will never stop occurs. until today still no cure for Push Notification
thank you
firlando said:
hi bro,
i am fine thank you
no still use the new one because Uncertified POP UP still occurs so you need use GMSMOD1 to stop the POP UP
Hi there
Yes the problem because GMS and GFS is not connected so it stop the push notification.
if the push notification enable then the Uncertified POP UP will never stop occurs. until today still no cure for Push Notification
thank you
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I see. Well, when the notification was occurring for me, I just dragged the message to the left in the notification pane and said disable notifications. Is that not possible? Can I just disable the notification and still be able to use Google play? Like, stop the process at step 7 or 8, disable notifications on just play store issues and then let it be?
cmarison said:
I see. Well, when the notification was occurring for me, I just dragged the message to the left in the notification pane and said disable notifications. Is that not possible? Can I just disable the notification and still be able to use Google play? Like, stop the process at step 7 or 8, disable notifications on just play store issues and then let it be?
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Probably possible. However, I think that was cause battery drain.
I try gms install and use ice box. I froze Google framework and use aurorastore market.
Serdarankara said:
I try gms install and use ice box. I froze Google framework and use aurorastore market.
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Apps which is use GMAPS can not work properly then.
Gmaps? = Google maps ?
firlando said:
Apps which is use GMAPS can not work properly then.
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what do you mekan gmaps? İs it Google Maps?. Google maps is working and I take all notifications now. İce box is sucsefully now.
Serdarankara said:
what do you mekan gmaps? İs it Google Maps?. Google maps is working and I take all notifications now. İce box is sucsefully now.
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Apps which is dependency Google Maps will not work.
Try "Muslim Pro" apps you can not pointing your current location
Local apps Indonesian named "Gojek" also dependency Google Maps will not working can not detect your current location
Can I downgrade software 10.0.0.173 china software after installing Google play?
Can I downgrade software 10.0.0.173 china software after installing Google play? İs it work?
Hello I want to ask from where can I download huawei backup.apk shown in this video?
Hi firlando, will this method work on huawei y6p?
Installed gms with your method and worked... Still notifications not work properly. Can you say me if I use Aurora instead of google play store will get notification back?
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I try gms install and use ice box. I froze Google framework and use aurorastore market.
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Can you explain this more detailed, please? Thanks
Any one knows why lz-play is not working at P40 Lite 5G?
I used to have my Google working on my Huawei perfectly, until I accidentally pressed the wrong button and all was uninstalled.
Now I had tried your method a few times. But every time I got stucked at the same part, where we were to add the Google accounts.
When I try to add the existing Google account, it always show Google connection error. Cannot connect to Google server. I tried restarting and force stopping or anything, I still cannot go pass this step. Cannot add Google account.
Can somebody tell me or teach me? If anyone had this problem and had solved it.
Tolong tolong
Sorry if it was explained elsewhere, but I really couldn't find it:
I managed to install GMS. Is there anything I should avoid (other than deleting google account or reseting the phone) to keep it running?
For example:
- Can I safely update any apps or services or will updating a Google Store or something mess everything up?
- Are there any apps I should avoid, eg. some security, system management or antivirus apps?
Yes many apk notifications doesent work. Stopping google framework and reboot phone will enable notifications back but u cant use play store. So use aurora.
Hi firlando, Could you please share how to install GMS for huawei nova 7 se
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Apps which is dependency Google Maps will not work. ]

Advice for a new owner

I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
Tmel14 said:
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
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Regarding #5.
Starling works, though Natwest will not either with or without GMS sadly.
I now use yolt which will sync your account for the next best alternative.
#6,
Currently any updates haven't mean a reinstallation of anything.
Thank you, really helpful!! Good to know about Starling.
I don't suppose anyone else knows the answers to questions 1-4?
Tmel14 said:
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
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1. Most can be phone-cloned. They will not update unless you install Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store .. just install all of these and pick your favourite. Notifications wont work for most.
2. Firefox is better and can sync across devices.
3. Part of the attraction of the P40 Pro is going google-free for the challenge and to support Huawei .. I am using Office from the Huawei App Gallery.
4. Despite being on the Huawei App Gallery, BlueMail notifications were unreliable with HMS-naked ... warning message that no Google Cloud Messaging is installed .. that you had to clear evey day or two .. and people that are using BlueMail don't realise that notifications are delayed for a while. BlueMail is a bad app at the moment.
5. Banking apps .. phone-clone or install from Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store ... my banks are working fine . not too many people are reporting problems.
6. Why do you need GMS? Have they fixed notifications with a GMS install? microG is a much simpler and more reliable solution at the moment to give you notifications and you can still get apps from Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store.
If you find a reason that HMS-naked and HMS-microG are not acceptable ... and you really have to do a HMS-GMS setup, then I would not buy the P40 Pro ... just get the P30 Pro.
4. I used the stock Huawei email application. Lets you add multiple accounts (gmail/outlook) and gives you notifications without issue. I ended up preferring it to Gmail/Outlook app.
5. I don't have my P40 Pro any longer, but when I did FirstDirect app worked fine through GMS. Monzo bank did also. I downloaded NatWest and it worked but I didn't have an account so couldn't actually log in.
6. You only lose your GMS install if you factory reset. Software updates don't affect it.
Kotd88 said:
4. I used the stock Huawei email application. Lets you add multiple accounts (gmail/outlook) and gives you notifications without issue. I ended up preferring it to Gmail/Outlook app.
5. I don't have my P40 Pro any longer, but when I did FirstDirect app worked fine through GMS. Monzo bank did also. I downloaded NatWest and it worked but I didn't have an account so couldn't actually log in.
6. You only lose your GMS install if you factory reset. Software updates don't affect it.
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4. with my testing on P40 Pro with HMS-naked, the notifications with the Huawei email app are delayed .. particularly with a linked gmail account in the Huawei email app.
is your feedback with HMS-naked, HMS+microG or HMS+GMS?
linux2525 said:
4. with my testing on P40 Pro with HMS-naked, the notifications with the Huawei email app are delayed .. particularly with a linked gmail account in the Huawei email app.
is your feedback with HMS-naked, HMS+microG or HMS+GMS?
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I pretty much used the phone out the box with GMS, so maybe that's why I had a different experience. Gmail and Outlook definitely came through with timely notifications using stock app for me.
DaveHTC200 said:
Regarding #5.
Starling works, though Natwest will not either with or without GMS sadly.
I now use yolt which will sync your account for the next best alternative.
#6,
Currently any updates haven't mean a reinstallation of anything.
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I have had a mate30 pro for about 4 months and ive not had any struggles, Depending on who you bank with currently you may not be able to get an 'app' but what you can do is save a hot link, So from the browser hit the dots on the top right and add to home screen, What you can do which is what ive done is saved a link with in the login page, really for me it does the same thing shows my balance and that's it really.
I mean if you're looking for apps through app gallery there is 2 key ones I would really recommend one is MoreApps and one is Petal both of which once installed act as a hub for other apps you may need. Its one that I know I've relied on hugely.
Other than that how you getting on with it?
It arrived yesterday and really it's a beautiful phone! Haven't had too much time to play with it yet but seems great.
I cloned over my apps from my Mate Pro20 and had a quick play. All of my WhatsApp history seemed to automatically copy over which is great. My main issue so far is that a couple of apps I have tried to use (e.g. The Athletic) say that Google Services Installation Required in order to use them. If hey are not on AppStore, is there any way I can use them as apps without GMS?
Similar question for other apps that I have cloned over such as betting apps. When I load them it says that location services must be enabled to use the app (which they are) but it doesn't eem to be picking up on this (probably GMS related?).
Are More Apps & Petal a way round sourcing apps not on AppStore but without having to install GMS?
Tmel14 said:
My main issue so far is that a couple of apps I have tried to use (e.g. The Athletic) say that Google Services Installation Required in order to use them. If hey are not on AppStore, is there any way I can use them as apps without GMS?
Are More Apps & Petal a way round sourcing apps not on AppStore but without having to install GMS?
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1. I had some success with some apps that were broken with HMS-naked, but worked successfully with HMS+microG (but I have never tried HMS+GMS as it is silly to buy a P40 Pro then hack GMS onto it .. just buy a different phone).
2. Petal is a terrible app ... it just links you to other app store .. google these well know app stores, go to their websites and get the apk for the store and then install the new store on your p40 pro ..
aptoide
apkpure
amazon appstore
f-droid
aurora
I have them all installed and play around with each .. they mostly have similar apps (other than amazon appstore and f-droid).
dont waste your time with petal.
Thanks, I'm a total novice here so it's really helpful to get some advice.
1) Is microg relatively easy to install? Am I right in thinking that it adds a Google foundation but without GMS? Therefore, some apps from Playstore that didn't work when first cloned may then work?
2) would the benefit of those appstores be that they may have versions of apps that don't require GMS but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore?
3) One other question that I thought of... for apps that I clone over and work fine (but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore) - how will I keep them updated? I do have a Samsung tablet so would I be able to periodically clone them over from that or would I need to do something else?
Tmel14 said:
Thanks, I'm a total novice here so it's really helpful to get some advice.
1) Is microg relatively easy to install? Am I right in thinking that it adds a Google foundation but without GMS? Therefore, some apps from Playstore that didn't work when first cloned may then work?
2) would the benefit of those appstores be that they may have versions of apps that don't require GMS but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore?
3) One other question that I thought of... for apps that I clone over and work fine (but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore) - how will I keep them updated? I do have a Samsung tablet so would I be able to periodically clone them over from that or would I need to do something else?
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1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
linux2525 said:
1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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That's great, thank you. I'm still using my Mate Pro 20 as my phone at the moment so not really sure how effective the notifications on my P40 Pro are. It sounds like it would make sense to factory reset and Microg my P40 Pro before I properly make the switch to using that then? You mentioned it should only take 5 mins to do Microg the second time... unless I misread the instruction guide, why would I need to do it a second time?
And presumably once I've installed Microg, I could just clone my apps over from the Mate Pro 20 as normal?
Tmel14 said:
1. That's great, thank you. I'm still using my Mate Pro 20 as my phone at the moment so not really sure how effective the notifications on my P40 Pro are.
2. It sounds like it would make sense to factory reset and Microg my P40 Pro before I properly make the switch to using that then?
3. You mentioned it should only take 5 mins to do Microg the second time... unless I misread the instruction guide, why would I need to do it a second time?
4. And presumably once I've installed Microg, I could just clone my apps over from the Mate Pro 20 as normal?
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1. I would test your essential apps first and check if notifications are working for you. what are your critical apps for notifications? maybe you can go HMS-naked and no need for HMS+microG.
2. You have to install apps after installing microG ... otherwise the apps don't open .. if you have only installed a few apps, then no need to reset ... you can just install microG, uninstall those few apps, then reinstall those few apps .. but if you have 20 apps, it might be quicker to reset and start fresh.
3. quicker the second time as you know where to click! that's all.
4. yep.
but .. hopefully your critical apps have notifications working real-time & consistently, then no need for microG.
linux2525 said:
1. I would test your essential apps first and check if notifications are working for you. what are your critical apps for notifications? maybe you can go HMS-naked and no need for HMS+microG.
2. You have to install apps after installing microG ... otherwise the apps don't open .. if you have only installed a few apps, then no need to reset ... you can just install microG, uninstall those few apps, then reinstall those few apps .. but if you have 20 apps, it might be quicker to reset and start fresh.
3. quicker the second time as you know where to click! that's all.
4. yep.
but .. hopefully your critical apps have notifications working real-time & consistently, then no need for microG.
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Critical apps would be WhatsApp, SMS messages and emails. Other notifications such as news/sports and some other social media would be important but not critical.
I'll pop my SIM in tonight and do a comparison of how notifications are popping up vs my Galaxy tablet and Mate Pro 20 to see whether a reset and microg is necessary.
Thanks again for the help, I'll let you know how I get on!
linux2525 said:
1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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Thanks for the guide, I followed it and got microG running, then cloned over my apps and appear to be getting notifications through (at least for the apps I've tried), which is great!
I have now run into a problem with my Google account though. I was trying to sign in to YT Music and typed in my Google account details but it said there was a problem communicating with Google servers. I then went in to Settings > Users and Accounts > Google and there were some sync issues so I removed the account and went to add it again but now it won't work as before, My microG is also showing as without an active Google account and when I try and add it, I am getting the same issue, I enter my email and password and then it takes me to Googles Terms of Service, which I agree but then get the following message:
Sorry... There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later.
Any idea how I can add my Google account again?
Tmel14 said:
Thanks for the guide, I followed it and got microG running, then cloned over my apps and appear to be getting notifications through (at least for the apps I've tried), which is great!
I have now run into a problem with my Google account though. I was trying to sign in to YT Music and typed in my Google account details but it said there was a problem communicating with Google servers. I then went in to Settings > Users and Accounts > Google and there were some sync issues so I removed the account and went to add it again but now it won't work as before, My microG is also showing as without an active Google account and when I try and add it, I am getting the same issue, I enter my email and password and then it takes me to Googles Terms of Service, which I agree but then get the following message:
Sorry... There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later.
Any idea how I can add my Google account again?
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So I cleared the data on my MicroG Services Core app which appeared to fix the problem of not being able to sign in. The issue I now have is that I've signed in to my Google account then when I go to an app such as YT Music and go to sign in, the account doesn't show up, when I then click 'add account' it takes me to MicroG Services but I type in my email and it just says 'This account already exists on your device'...
So my Google account is registered on the phone but whenever I try and sign in to any app with it, it redirects to MicroG Services Core for sign in and then it just says that the account already exists and I cannot go any further with log in
Tmel14 said:
So my Google account is registered on the phone but whenever I try and sign in to any app with it, it redirects to MicroG Services Core for sign in and then it just says that the account already exists and I cannot go any further with log in
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I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
linux2525 said:
I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
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I definitely don't know the intricacies of what microG provides but it was definitely enabling much better performance from notifications.
This is an issue for me though as I get free YT Music so not something I would particularly want to give up. I don't appear to have an issue signing into YouTube via my browser with my Google account but it appears any app that requires an email log in directly on the app (as opposed to through a browser) automatically routes me to log in via microG core services and when I then try and log in, it says that the account is already regsitered on my device (which it is but I can't seem to access it for this purpose).
I'm not sure if I just did part of the process slightly wrong and if it#s worth me resetting and doing the whole process again, or if for some reason it's not possible?
linux2525 said:
I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
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I'm wondering if it would work if I reset the phone, cloned over any apps where I need the few apps where I need to log in via Google (I don't need notifications for them anyway), then installed microG, then cloned over all the rest of the apps?

Google Maps TimeLine doesn't work. Google Location Accuracy?

Hey all,
I've successfully installed GMS using the method described on Youtube.
I've also frozen Google Services Framework using IceBox to enable push notification.
Now here is the last piece of puzzle: Google Maps Timeline doesn't work! With all possible GPS settings already turned on, Timeline is empty. As If I'm at home all the time.
Anybody had the same issue with the TimeLine?
Many thanks!
Slava
had u tried this?
sheikgr said:
I had the same problem. Just re-enable google services framework. Push notifications will stay good and working but the annoying google play protect notifications will begin. Just slide let on the notification, go to settings and select Play Protect and turn it off.
You will now have push notifications working, nfc payments working, and no annoying notifications.
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Its a small price to pay, no timeline but full push notifications.
I use the Huawei multitool v8 (XDA) to disable gsf from my pc rather than icebox. Easier to use and it survives reboots. If i need Playstore, just enable it and disable after.
Sathelp said:
Its a small price to pay, no timeline but full push notifications.
I use the Huawei multitool v8 (XDA) to disable gsf from my pc rather than icebox. Easier to use and it survives reboots. If i need Playstore, just enable it and disable after.
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Do gps absed apps work fine after freezing gsf? Correct me if imwrong but the only draw back is lack of Google Play (paid apps if anything, since we can use alt stores)
Yes, other GPS apps are fine, its just the Google timeline that doesn't work or Playstore. I have 3 gps app screenshots attached and they all sow my location, maps, waze and here we go.
Sathelp said:
Yes, other GPS apps are fine, its just the Google timeline that doesn't work or Playstore. I have 3 gps app screenshots attached and they all sow my location, maps, waze and here we go.
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Thats perfect, i assume Uber works too? I can live without timeline tbf (though i wonder if timeline updates are captured if we re-enable gsf?), do the photos themselves store the gps information succesfully in the Huawei gallarey app? And i guess there are no issues if we reenable the service through the multi tool? Sorry about the million questions
Yes, Uber works as does the photo location, see below screenshots.
If you enable gsf for any reason, just disable it again after. I have had no problems but there was a report that someone did but i don't know if the disabled it again or what the circumstances were.
Sathelp said:
Yes, Uber works as does the photo location, see below screenshots.
If you enable gsf for any reason, just disable it again after. I have had no problems but there was a report that someone did but i don't know if the disabled it again or what the circumstances were.
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Very helpful, thank you again. Initially the lack of notificaitons wasnt an issue, but i kept on missing stuff every now and then, and its annoying to remember to open my key apps a few times a day to be notified correctly! i.e ebay, twitter, discord etc.
Sathelp said:
Yes, Uber works as does the photo location, see below screenshots.
If you enable gsf for any reason, just disable it again after. I have had no problems but there was a report that someone did but i don't know if the disabled it again or what the circumstances were.
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I can't get Tripadvisor to work: it asks to enable high accuracy and never get position. Do you have such a bug?

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