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Now that Paranoid Android. 2016 has been released yesterday for OPO, would you make the switch to Paranoid Android? and why?
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Paranoid Android just for the different experience than the stock roms. CM is almost stock. After using for sometime battery charging is slow. TOugh call to make with Dirty Unicorns or Darkobas roms. with PA.
I vote for different experience hence PA.
I vote for CM. Its got a blotch of features and no...those nose breakdowns didnt happen to me.. PA's accountability in this period is very bad. They left us and now when android N is almost out, they turn their nose into first PA MM build. kinda late to win win i would say,. but i have to agree they are very stable interms of battery.. if only they stick to custom roms, i would have been on PA.
I would go for CM13 (Sultan) over Paranoid Android. I've been on CM Nightlies for ages and Sultan's ROM is CM with better camera, kernel and based on a more stable branch from CM. Paranoid is just coming back after a long hiatus and it won't have any of the features you've come to enjoy on a daily basis on other custom software.
A lot of people have commented PA has charging issues. I assume that's cause they used the Oxygen kernel. I also had issues on latest Oxygen OS with charging (took like 4+ hrs to charge), it can't be a coincidence. If PA are still dishing out builds, check them out in a couple months when the OS has matured (with more features)
What about the just launched Cyanogen 13.1 into the mix? Would anyone be considering switching to that?
The charging issue on PA is keeping me from trying it, although my battery life on the official CM13 nightlies hasn't been fantastic
xtremez said:
What about the just launched Cyanogen 13.1 into the mix? Would anyone be considering switching to that?
The charging issue on PA is keeping me from trying it, although my battery life on the official CM13 nightlies hasn't been fantastic
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I did just that, I've switched over from the nightlies. So far almost everything is just like CyanogenMod, but kind of worse in a way, and the only reason I'm saying that is because I have a very specific setup and like having Google versions of the apps, which aren't all included in COS. The features from the newest update are rather useless to me at this point in time, it might be a different story if something more interesting gets released though. Other than that it's smooth and fast and due to the lack of root I can finally try out android pay. I'm thinking that if I have no reason to stay on it I will switch back to CM nightlies, or maybe try out Paranoid android when some of the issues (such as the theme engine) get fixed.
I would Prefer COS 13.1. I really found the MODs (Skype and hyperlape) useful for myself. Except for these mods everything is more or less like CM 13 except the camera here is better. I tried PA for a day. It had Slow charging, no extra feature over CM 13. Infact lacks a great deal of features when compared to CM or COS 13.
Hi all,
Over the past few months I have been building CyanogenMod (now LineageOS) 13.0 for my personal use. It's based off Kumajaya's sources and was roughly parallel to emfox's builds. I'm doing this because I'm dissatisfied with the stability and reliability of existing ROMs. (I can't claim that mine is any better, however it does put me in a position to debug the issues.)
This is an interest check. I am considering publishing my nightlies for people to download. I know that everyone will give a blanket "yes" to the question "should I publish my nightlies for people to download?". So instead I would like to ask:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
(Long time reader, first time poster!)
This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
philipnzw said:
This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
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I second this! More roms/more activity keeps this device alive longer too
1. Your development wil keep this device alive longer.
2.(maybe) attract other dev/team to build rom for this device.
3.it will make your rom better,by sharing and let many people using it, will helps you find problem faster and improve it.
so yes!
Always useful to have more I have an Aqua (mi4s) and the rom scene is very poor :/ a few Libra roms do support it but in recent months even the SD card support has gone making for quite a sad outlook for the device. If there were someone building nightlies, it would be ace as from time to time you might be able to dip into the aqua stuff too and we'd all appreciate that
Whatever you decide, it's a nice thing to even consider doing for the community. You have my thanks
honestly i think Marshmallow is waste of time, most of the people are interested only in newest Android and i don't see much interest since we have official nougat ROMs from Mokee, AICP and Resurrection remix
if you want to do something different there is Nougat AOSP ROM missing, blobs from Xiaomi are already available, Nexus 5X as well, so...
more roms, more options. i want my mi4c looks better than Nexus 5X
terence.tan said:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
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It really depends on what you would have to offer. The available CM13 (or are we calling them LO13 now?) ROMs are TeamSuperluminal's and Emfox's builds which are really not actively maintained anymore, although they are pretty damn stable. Except of course the few bugs that seem to go unfixed -- the touchscreen bug, which appears to be really complicated to fix without newer Xiaomi's kernel sources, the 2% battery bug which is present in TeamSuperluminal's builds and isn't a gamebreaker, and the way the SoC uses its cores in most of the ROMs based on Kumajaya's kernel sources (always active big cores) which results in lower battery life.
If you solved some of these problems, expect users to flock to your ROM. If not, I wouldn't bother, since you'll just be flooded with requests for fixing stuff that isn't broken in the first place. In fact, expect the second even if you deliver on the first.
I don't maintain any ROMs so I'm not one to give advice, but it seems to me it's a lot of work, and that you're paid with criticism and demands for more of your time. Get in contact with a ROM author and ask them for advice on this
Thanks for the thoughts.
As far as I can figure, there are 3 things people want:
Features/being on the cutting edge
Performance
Stability/reliability
We want all 3 but unfortunately it is a trade-off. In particular it takes special effort to achieve stability when combined with the other 2.
The CM14.1 builds satisfy the people who want to live on the cutting edge. The Xceed ROM is built for speed for those who think that Snapdragon 808 should perform like the top-tier chipset that it is
But out of all the ROMs I've tried (haven't tried the CM14.1 builds yet but have tried most of the others) I've had the following stability problems:
Screen freezes, requiring reboot
Sleeps of death
Random reboots in the middle of the night (waking up at 3 a.m. to find my phone clicking at me on the "decrypt your device" screen)
Stuttering or hangups
OpenGL-based games crashing
And that's not including the well-publicised touchscreen and battery problems.
So my personal strategy is:
Marshmallow build. Sorry for those who want Nougat, but I don't consider it stable enough (yet). Plus, all the proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi are targeted at Android L, and getting them working on Android M is hard enough already...
For the kernel, track CAF closely. Probably take their Android N release on the assumption that it's stable
Use as few proprietary blobs as possible; build from CAF source where available. This is what most developers are doing already
Use the most recent proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi, on the assumption that they've been buillding this version of MIUI on Android L for such a long time that it's stable
Avoid importing proprietary blobs from other devices (Nexus 5X, Moto X Pure etc.) where possible for licensing reasons. I don't intend to try and make this an offical LineageOS build, but this might be important for whoever attempts in future...
All this is difficult and @ketut.kumajaya and friends put in some impressive hacks to get it to work in the first place. I can't promise that I can build on this! But if I ever get to a stage where it's fit for consumption, I'll publish something...
in my opinion this will be great for development on Libra devices, i think Nougat rom with clean source will be great for user like me sir. For now iam using RR Nougat and for me its stable for daily use, if we can make Libra official for Lineage it can open other rom change to get official build too. Best luck for you sir and cant wait for your contribution
Hello, I'm completely new to flashing on custom roms, but I recently purchased a Redmi Note 7 Pro with the full intent to flash on something better than the China MIUI rom.
However now that i'm finally allowed to unlock my bootloader, there are a lot more custom roms to choose from in the dev subforum for this phone, and I have absolutely no idea how to tell which one is right for me.
Originally I liked the sound of Oxygen OS for being almost entirely 'stock android' with a few good additions, but then became interested in LineageOS, which also seems to be largely stock android with some improvements, and the most well know community custom rom.
So I guess what I'm looking for is a clean "like-stock" rom with a good amount of customization so I can change things to my preference, but this being my first time ever flashing a custom rom, I would also appreciate stability and security.
Pretty much all of the roms ported in the dev subforum look like they're either modified versions of LineageOS, or based on AOSP.
Should I just play it safe and go with LineageOS, do the LineageOS based roms offer enough good improvements to try one of them instead, or should I look into one of the non-LineageOS AOSP roms?
Or if the "best option" is to try them for myself to see which one I like, is jumping between different roms easy to do, and will I lose any userdata doing so?
Some more info if it helps at all:
My previous phone was a Galaxy S4 running Android 5.0.1, so pretty much any custom rom will feel new and different to me.
Some of the things that bothered me about MIUI was the removal of the App folder/drawer and how notifications for things like emails seemed very delayed and arrived in annoying bursts.
I also disliked how the app vault was filled with crap, seemed pretty uncustomizable, and also can't be disabled in favor of wrap-around pages.
Any help with information on or deciding between custom roms is greatly appreciated!
Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Wow, I just properly read into crDroid, and it sounds like it's only got improvements and more customization options over LineageOS.
I was worried that because it was largely based on another custom rom, it might be less secure and stable or be based on an older version.
But they claim that stability and security are a main goal of theirs, and that they try to keep up with LineageOS's source.
crDroid sound perfect, thanks so much!
Hi Good day everyone, I just want to make a small pole for us to have a discussion about this two awesome Master of customization ROMs. Which do you think is more stable or Less buggy and can be a daily driver for a long time
CHEERS MATES!!!
P.S. : No hates let's just share experience. Let's help each other decide for everyone to have an idea
Props to this two amazing ROMs:good::fingers-crossed:
Wrong section, and comparing roms is not good, every rom is good at something. But to answer to ur question derpfest is rich of customization
Stupid thread
Please read the thread
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Stupid thread
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Don't just comment. read the thread. It said don't hate. If you have nothing good to say. Keep that word in your mouth
If you don't like this thread then it is not for you
THANK YOU:good:
Mcha01 said:
Wrong section, and comparing roms is not good, every rom is good at something. But to answer to ur question derpfest is rich of customization
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Not that i am comparing, I just want to know what people's opinion with this two amazing roms. I just found out that HAVOC and EVO X are ones that already been a talk. I just want to see what opinion other users have
Thank you for you comment:victory:
Haven't tried Corvus yet but Derpfest is good. Im using Havoc at the moment. But all ROMS released for Poco are great. Developers have done an amazing job in maintaining and updating ROMs.
Lineage:silly:
I take covus for this one. I just installed it 2 days ago and my review was. Great customization, Gaming mode, Smart charging(you can stop charging when reaches 80%) and good battery.
I can not talk about Derpfest, I have not used it, but Corvus was super smooth and a lot of customization... Than he crashed suddenly after 2 days of tinkering.. launcher stop working and google "some servise" stop working..
Went back to Miui. more precisely Eu Miui but I become spoiled by custom roms and customizations, so I decided to try some other rom. Ended up to Havoc
And I forget to say, all that trip started from Crdroid, which was super smooth but started to have bugs with updates.
That is my 2 cents, i hope it helps someone..
Great review! Thanks!
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I can not talk about Derpfest, I have not used it, but Corvus was super smooth and a lot of customization... Than he crashed suddenly after 2 days of tinkering.. launcher stop working and google "some servise" stop working..
Went back to Miui. more precisely Eu Miui but I become spoiled by custom roms and customizations, so I decided to try some other rom. Ended up to Havoc
And I forget to say, all that trip started from Crdroid, which was super smooth but started to have bugs with updates.
That is my 2 cents, i hope it helps someone..
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This is me with ROMs/computers/smart devices....Tweak them until they break... Start over.
Both rom are stable and both have lots of customisation, but corvus has upper hand because it has some extra customisation options, i used derp for 2 weeks and notice little bit ui lag. The last version i used was 20200316 after that i switched to corvus and still using it and very happy with this rom.
Using derpfest with lawrun kernel 67hz version.. super smooth with great customisation and descent battery life.
Gaming is super smooth too.
for me corvus is the king(for now) earlier my anytime favorite rom was derpfest still it is. I wont say derpfest is bad still its my favorite only thing it lags is gaming experience, games sometime lags whereas corvus is super super smooth! in terms of ui too!!
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I take covus for this one. I just installed it 2 days ago and my review was. Great customization, Gaming mode, Smart charging(you can stop charging when reaches 80%) and good battery.
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Hey buddy, is smart charging fixed on the latest build of corvus?
Been using the initial build of corvus for more than a week, its based on DU and the amount of customisation is pretty good. Battery life is good enough, all san1ty gcam versions are working, smooth since day 1. Im satisfied with this rom
I did try derfest pie a couple of months ago and i believe its one of the best rom for poco as well
Corvus is smooth for me.
I use 0.3x animation scale with slider. Derpfest lacks animation slider.
I treid many roms - Crdroid, Havoc, EvoX, Derpfest, Stagos (doesn't support exFat sdcard), AEX, AIM, Superior OS, MSM (unofficial), Pixel Experience.
In customisations MSM is best followed by Corvus, Stagos, EvoX, Derpfest.
In smoothness I feel Corvus is best followed by MSM, EvoX, Havoc, Derpfest.
For now, I got only issue of bluetooth in Corvus and I am fine with it for now, lets see if update fixes it.
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This is me with ROMs/computers/smart devices....Tweak them until they break... Start over.
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Yeah, I hear you 100%
Hello there people of XDA, below, I've compiled a list of the best custom roms with GAPPS from my experience of flashing roms the past few months. If there are any roms I've missed, let me know. I probably won't try them all though. As for what rom I'm currently using, it would be stock android. The custom roms for this phone still seem like they're all in Alpha stage. Yes, the customization is great, but I can get similar options using root. It's hard for me to flash roms over and over for a update. I would come back only when the roms have all matured, and when an update can be done over OTA. (EvolutionX has OTA, the other roms, I'm not so sure.)
RisingOS: It's basically the only rom so far that I've found that actually works with Google Pay, but currently it seems like it's still in alpha or beta stage due to the amount of bugs so far. But it runs fine, and the battery drain isn't too much. I will revisit this rom in the future, when the bugs get ironed out.
EvolutionX: I mean, it's stable... but battery life takes a huge hit. I don't know if the kernel is overclocked or what is going on, but the phone gets warm (99-105F) with light usage (30mins on youtube). Would only recommend if you're a gamer and want the best FPS out of games, since you seem to get better sustained performance with this rom.
Project Elixir: It's basically EvolutionX, but with less customization features, and the battery drain isn't high. I would daily drive this rom, if Google Pay worked. But like EvolutionX, I can set it, but it'll have me re-add my card over and over. (Revisiting this Rom reveals that apps like Facebook and Instagram has issues 6/24/23)
DerpFest Tango: This rom is basically stock android with some tweaks. I joined the Telegram and it seemed dead, but it's a decent rom. It seems like battery life is similar to stock, and the phone runs fine. Google Pay seems broken for me though.
StagOS: Has a lot of customization options, and not a large userbase. Similar to DerpFest Tango, the Telegram seems dead, and Google Pay is broken for me.
Not on your list, I've been pretty happy with LineageOS since it went Official. OTA works, but can be slow to install.
Far from perfect, but suits my (minimalist) needs with NeoLauncher.
Which ROM has the unlimited google photos?
Used all the above roms and they are all pretty solid. My daily driver and go-to if I don't like how a certain rom works I the Velocity Rom-Maxium Velocity kernel. He was on xda up till about 6 months ago but now he's on telegram.
Good features but no fluff - speedy as hell - battery standby is great and no heat to speak of. Comes preloaded with root so you just download magisk and that's it. Really good rom.
You should try out LineageOS and crDroid. Those 2 roms are the best ones I've tried so far. As for Gpay/Google Wallet, I got it working with most of the custom roms I've tried. You just have to use "safetynet v2.3.1-MOD_3.0."
LineageOS doesn't come with GAPPS but it includes instructions on how to flash it.
The unofficial build of risingOS 1.0 ran great for me, but when trying to switch to the official version, it wouldn't flash the product partition.
Generally, I carry 2 phones. One with GAPPS as some stuff requires it, and one without (the phone I use the most). Pixel has gapps, oneplus 8t has microG. Overall, any rom I'd recommend on the 6a, its either rising or lineageOS. If you want customization, go crDroid
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Which ROM has the unlimited google photos?
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Most roms have it baked in. Project Elixir (enabled by default), Evolution X, and RisingOS. As for the other two, I used them for a week and I didn't see a toggle.
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Most roms have it baked in. Project Elixir (enabled by default), Evolution X, and RisingOS. As for the other two, I used them for a week and I didn't see a toggle.
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Its also not very hard to add it to a rom. There's a Magisk Plugin for it