Hi all,
Over the past few months I have been building CyanogenMod (now LineageOS) 13.0 for my personal use. It's based off Kumajaya's sources and was roughly parallel to emfox's builds. I'm doing this because I'm dissatisfied with the stability and reliability of existing ROMs. (I can't claim that mine is any better, however it does put me in a position to debug the issues.)
This is an interest check. I am considering publishing my nightlies for people to download. I know that everyone will give a blanket "yes" to the question "should I publish my nightlies for people to download?". So instead I would like to ask:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
(Long time reader, first time poster!)
This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
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This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
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I second this! More roms/more activity keeps this device alive longer too
1. Your development wil keep this device alive longer.
2.(maybe) attract other dev/team to build rom for this device.
3.it will make your rom better,by sharing and let many people using it, will helps you find problem faster and improve it.
so yes!
Always useful to have more I have an Aqua (mi4s) and the rom scene is very poor :/ a few Libra roms do support it but in recent months even the SD card support has gone making for quite a sad outlook for the device. If there were someone building nightlies, it would be ace as from time to time you might be able to dip into the aqua stuff too and we'd all appreciate that
Whatever you decide, it's a nice thing to even consider doing for the community. You have my thanks
honestly i think Marshmallow is waste of time, most of the people are interested only in newest Android and i don't see much interest since we have official nougat ROMs from Mokee, AICP and Resurrection remix
if you want to do something different there is Nougat AOSP ROM missing, blobs from Xiaomi are already available, Nexus 5X as well, so...
more roms, more options. i want my mi4c looks better than Nexus 5X
terence.tan said:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
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It really depends on what you would have to offer. The available CM13 (or are we calling them LO13 now?) ROMs are TeamSuperluminal's and Emfox's builds which are really not actively maintained anymore, although they are pretty damn stable. Except of course the few bugs that seem to go unfixed -- the touchscreen bug, which appears to be really complicated to fix without newer Xiaomi's kernel sources, the 2% battery bug which is present in TeamSuperluminal's builds and isn't a gamebreaker, and the way the SoC uses its cores in most of the ROMs based on Kumajaya's kernel sources (always active big cores) which results in lower battery life.
If you solved some of these problems, expect users to flock to your ROM. If not, I wouldn't bother, since you'll just be flooded with requests for fixing stuff that isn't broken in the first place. In fact, expect the second even if you deliver on the first.
I don't maintain any ROMs so I'm not one to give advice, but it seems to me it's a lot of work, and that you're paid with criticism and demands for more of your time. Get in contact with a ROM author and ask them for advice on this
Thanks for the thoughts.
As far as I can figure, there are 3 things people want:
Features/being on the cutting edge
Performance
Stability/reliability
We want all 3 but unfortunately it is a trade-off. In particular it takes special effort to achieve stability when combined with the other 2.
The CM14.1 builds satisfy the people who want to live on the cutting edge. The Xceed ROM is built for speed for those who think that Snapdragon 808 should perform like the top-tier chipset that it is
But out of all the ROMs I've tried (haven't tried the CM14.1 builds yet but have tried most of the others) I've had the following stability problems:
Screen freezes, requiring reboot
Sleeps of death
Random reboots in the middle of the night (waking up at 3 a.m. to find my phone clicking at me on the "decrypt your device" screen)
Stuttering or hangups
OpenGL-based games crashing
And that's not including the well-publicised touchscreen and battery problems.
So my personal strategy is:
Marshmallow build. Sorry for those who want Nougat, but I don't consider it stable enough (yet). Plus, all the proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi are targeted at Android L, and getting them working on Android M is hard enough already...
For the kernel, track CAF closely. Probably take their Android N release on the assumption that it's stable
Use as few proprietary blobs as possible; build from CAF source where available. This is what most developers are doing already
Use the most recent proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi, on the assumption that they've been buillding this version of MIUI on Android L for such a long time that it's stable
Avoid importing proprietary blobs from other devices (Nexus 5X, Moto X Pure etc.) where possible for licensing reasons. I don't intend to try and make this an offical LineageOS build, but this might be important for whoever attempts in future...
All this is difficult and @ketut.kumajaya and friends put in some impressive hacks to get it to work in the first place. I can't promise that I can build on this! But if I ever get to a stage where it's fit for consumption, I'll publish something...
in my opinion this will be great for development on Libra devices, i think Nougat rom with clean source will be great for user like me sir. For now iam using RR Nougat and for me its stable for daily use, if we can make Libra official for Lineage it can open other rom change to get official build too. Best luck for you sir and cant wait for your contribution
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Hi!!
First sorry for my english, I'm learning english (I'm spanish).
I'm interesting to find a OS where his team fix security issues the more fastly and the OS is open source. I like install the patches or new ROMs with security issues fixed weekly and don't wait for a new release every X months.
I like Cyanogenmod but the last news not . Now only I saw ROM like Replicant OS but the project is slow and they've many security issues without to fix.
IOS is closed and the bugs on OS is higher than Android.
Somebody knows any OS that is free (as open source as possible) and with a team faster to fix security issues?
sec908 said:
Hi!!
First sorry for my english, I'm learning english (I'm spanish).
I'm interesting to find a OS where his team fix security issues the more fastly and the OS is open source. I like install the patches or new ROMs with security issues fixed weekly and don't wait for a new release every X months.
I like Cyanogenmod but the last news not . Now only I saw ROM like Replicant OS but the project is slow and they've many security issues without to fix.
IOS is closed and the bugs on OS is higher than Android.
Somebody knows any OS that is free (as open source as possible) and with a team faster to fix security issues?
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1) Welcome to XDA.
2) If all you know about is CM and ReplicantOS, I suggest you spend the next 2 hours reading this board. There are more ROMs to name, and probably 10+ roms that span across 40+ devices.
3) Tons and tons of big name ROMs have daily builds. If a new ROM daily isn't fast enough for you, then what is?
4) Almost every rom here is open source, its XDA.
5) Comparing bugs across iOS and Android is like comparing apples to oranges. Don't do it. ever. Its not a comparison.
6) What are these "security" issues? You loose a bit of security running custom firmware anyway and without saying anything specific, there is nothing we can do.
7) No one really likes to spoon-feed anyone. You generate your own opinion based on your research. Don't ask others to do something for you when all the information is right here.
@sec908, give AOKP or Firefox OS a shot.
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1) Welcome to XDA.
2) If all you know about is CM and ReplicantOS, I suggest you spend the next 2 hours reading this board. There are more ROMs to name, and probably 10+ roms that span across 40+ devices.
3) Tons and tons of big name ROMs have daily builds. If a new ROM daily isn't fast enough for you, then what is?
4) Almost every rom here is open source, its XDA.
5) Comparing bugs across iOS and Android is like comparing apples to oranges. Don't do it. ever. Its not a comparison.
6) What are these "security" issues? You loose a bit of security running custom firmware anyway and without saying anything specific, there is nothing we can do.
7) No one really likes to spoon-feed anyone. You generate your own opinion based on your research. Don't ask others to do something for you when all the information is right here.
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Ok , thx.
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@sec908, give AOKP or Firefox OS a shot.
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I like Firefox OS but this is slow (many lag) and don't respond correctly when you touch on the interactive menus.
About AOKP... I like it but I'm seeing on the github and official site I'm searching "changelogs" for milestones and... I don't see nothing!!!.
In github code too . Other detail is that only 1 or 2 persons maintain on one devices, example, nexus 4 with 2 maintainers
i'm extremely grateful for all of the ROMs in the development section currently, but i'm kinda bummed there aren't more AOSP ROMs. i know only the developers have the definite answer to this question, but i'm curious to see what everyone else thinks. do you guys think we'll see an increase in ROM development (specifically AOSP) once Oreo officially launches?
IMO what's lacking around here, and XDA in general, is the strive to learn. Developers don't appear out of thin air, they have to start from somewhere.
Long story short, long long ago I was also a 'regular XDA user' who didn't contribute much back to the community, all I could do was help people in the Q&A section of the forum.
Fast forward to news that Qualcomm deprecated Snapdragon 800, meaning devices running that would not be receiving Nougat, we were completely disappointed.
What did most people do? Complain, complain, complain. Similar to those people in the Slim ROM thread asking for dual sim support yet not assisting with development itself.
What didn't they do? Do the next best thing and bring up Nougat themselves.
Two others are I were also interested in bringing up Cyanogenmod for our devices but we also lacked quite a bit of knowledge back then.
Lots of trial and error, troubleshooting, and studying later, we were able to get LineageOS 14.1 working on our devices (Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact) earlier this year. From that point on, we have continuously improved it, fixed bugs, and whatever, learning new things along the way.
After we released the ROMs publicly on XDA, many others started using our work as a base to make their own ROMs thus giving some diversity to forums.
The previous experience of bringing up Nougat my other device has greatly assisted me in working on LineageOS 14.1 for the HTC U11 (as well as using Slim as a base) and it is almost stable for daily use. I don't have plans to release LineageOS 14.1, but maybe LineageOS 15.0 when I get that up and running and stable.
TL;DR: idk maybe..
tomascus said:
IMO what's lacking around here, and XDA in general, is the strive to learn. Developers don't appear out of thin air, they have to start from somewhere.
Long story short, long long ago I was also a 'regular XDA user' who didn't contribute much back to the community, all I could do was help people in the Q&A section of the forum.
Fast forward to news that Qualcomm deprecated Snapdragon 800, meaning devices running that would not be receiving Nougat, we were completely disappointed.
What did most people do? Complain, complain, complain. Similar to those people in the Slim ROM thread asking for dual sim support yet not assisting with development itself.
What didn't they do? Do the next best thing and bring up Nougat themselves.
Two others are I were also interested in bringing up Cyanogenmod for our devices but we also lacked quite a bit of knowledge back then.
Lots of trial and error, troubleshooting, and studying later, we were able to get LineageOS 14.1 working on our devices (Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact) earlier this year. From that point on, we have continuously improved it, fixed bugs, and whatever, learning new things along the way.
After we released the ROMs publicly on XDA, many others started using our work as a base to make their own ROMs thus giving some diversity to forums.
The previous experience of bringing up Nougat my other device has greatly assisted me in working on LineageOS 14.1 for the HTC U11 (as well as using Slim as a base) and it is almost stable for daily use. I don't have plans to release LineageOS 14.1, but maybe LineageOS 15.0 when I get that up and running and stable.
TL;DR: idk maybe..
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I am one of the people you mention, although as I stated to you in the slim thread, the limit of my ability seems to be at a command line... I tested numerous builds for nick and reported back with logs to no avail...
If you have a working build of 14.1 which is 'almost stable' why dont you have plans to release it? Surely others could start using your base to make their own roms as you previously stated.
PS not an insult, just a query.
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I am one of the people you mention, although as I stated to you in the slim thread, the limit of my ability seems to be at a command line... I tested numerous builds for nick and reported back with logs to no avail...
If you have a working build of 14.1 which is 'almost stable' why dont you have plans to release it? Surely others could start using your base to make their own roms as you previously stated.
PS not an insult, just a query.
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The main reason is that I try not to release builds with some essential things broken, such as Edge Sense right now, which I consider a major feature for our device. Also, you can understand how terrible Aussie upload speeds are, especially without NBN in my area (coming soon my ass), so upload test builds would take forever.
Anyone is free to see my device tree and kernel anyway on my Github, same username as my XDA one.
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The main reason is that I try not to release builds with some essential things broken, such as Edge Sense right now, which I consider a major feature for our device. Also, you can understand how terrible Aussie upload speeds are, especially without NBN in my area (coming soon my ass), so upload test builds would take forever.
Anyone is free to see my device tree and kernel anyway on my Github, same username as my XDA one.
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Is the dualsim variant DUGL working on your build ? If it is then i can build some custom roms using yours and slim base..
U11 | ⓣⓐⓟⓐⓣⓐⓛⓚ | TabS
amit_sen said:
Is the dualsim variant DUGL working on your build ? If it is then i can build some custom roms using yours and slim base..
U11 | ⓣⓐⓟⓐⓣⓐⓛⓚ | TabS
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As I said before in the slim thread, I don't have a dual sim device so it's broken and I can't fix. If you are a dev then I assume you have some skills to troubleshoot the issue.
Actually I don't know why we need this boring looking roms
The stock sense rom is perfect with ultra smooth performance
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Actually I wanna try
Miui rom ❤
tomascus said:
IMO what's lacking around here, and XDA in general, is the strive to learn. Developers don't appear out of thin air, they have to start from somewhere.
Long story short, long long ago I was also a 'regular XDA user' who didn't contribute much back to the community, all I could do was help people in the Q&A section of the forum.
Fast forward to news that Qualcomm deprecated Snapdragon 800, meaning devices running that would not be receiving Nougat, we were completely disappointed.
What did most people do? Complain, complain, complain. Similar to those people in the Slim ROM thread asking for dual sim support yet not assisting with development itself.
What didn't they do? Do the next best thing and bring up Nougat themselves.
Two others are I were also interested in bringing up Cyanogenmod for our devices but we also lacked quite a bit of knowledge back then.
Lots of trial and error, troubleshooting, and studying later, we were able to get LineageOS 14.1 working on our devices (Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact) earlier this year. From that point on, we have continuously improved it, fixed bugs, and whatever, learning new things along the way.
After we released the ROMs publicly on XDA, many others started using our work as a base to make their own ROMs thus giving some diversity to forums.
The previous experience of bringing up Nougat my other device has greatly assisted me in working on LineageOS 14.1 for the HTC U11 (as well as using Slim as a base) and it is almost stable for daily use. I don't have plans to release LineageOS 14.1, but maybe LineageOS 15.0 when I get that up and running and stable.
TL;DR: idk maybe..
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I just flashed slimrom and it's pretty stable for me. I'd love to help out. What can I do?
Hi all, a quick thought that fits this topic, I think.
I was wondering if there is any chance we see the U11 Life Android One ROM ported to the U11, when the U11 Life will be out?
I'm asking because I saw this was the case for some Xiaomi devices:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...-androidone-7-9-21-xiaomi-redmi-note-t3691907
Thanks in advance !
Xiaomi launched poco. It marketed it as a developer friendly device. And then it decided to give the device to some devs.
Who did they give it to? People who had previously worked on Xiaomi phones.
And so it happened. Vasishath, shahah_mik and akhilnarang got it. They definitely deserved it.
But with this Note 5 Pro is utterly f****d. Original development has almost completely stopped. Vasishath and shahah_mik brought up LOS and device trees for RN5 and now all they care about is poco.
Go check AOSIP Pie thread. Till 4th October, Akhilnarang was actively working on Pie for RN5 Pro. Now its over. Only derp kernel updates.
Maybe I'm ignorant but only jhenrique seems to be doing original development. Most others are pumping out xyz rom based on same source with same bugs.
I feel so bad. These devs definitely deserved a great phone but it came at the cost of Note 5 Pro. I don't think we will ever get proper Q roms and leave alone that, I don't think we'll ever get fully stable Pie roms like Oreo roms are stable right now.
RN3 launched with 5.1 and got super stable Nougat and Oreo. We started with Oreo and will remain on super stable Oreo custom roms. Other version roms have low chances of being as stable as Oreo.
I urge some developers to pick up LineageOs for this device. "Super glide butter flow remix" rom is nice but first we should have proper Pie code. Otherwise all roms will have similar bugs.
No offense to anybody.
I'm happy to be corrected.
Besides jhenrique, are there any devs doing Original development for Note 5 Pro?
Firstly what pie bugs are you talking about?
And secondly, we have so many hard working devs here making kernels, recoveries and ROMs. New updates every day, join the telegram group...
in the ever changing competitive market! there are always newer models to replace older ones! but the problem is, now the frequency of happening such is very high!
anyways even before poco! RN5 roms on 8.1 are fruit from same tree and i found many similar bugs after trying 10 different roms!
1. all have whatsapp behaviour issues (low call volume / voice notes screen offs )
2. random ui crashing on derp kernels when trying ending call
3. random restarts when whatsapp tries wakesup screen as you move away your device from ear! (proximity sensor)
4. poor BT Audio and noise
5. switching between 4g/3g (airplane mode on/off) fails to register sims to network (specially on crdroid roms on derp kernel)
6. touchwiz goes non responsive and nothing works accept navbar on , unless you switch off and on screen. (RR and crdroid)
7. Equiliser works ONLY if its activated before music player,
i havent tested custom rom of pie but i am sure i will find many bugs!
so what is my point?
that even if poco wasnt released! these inherited (verson to version of various custom roms) issues were never fixed! and i never expect them to be fixed!
YasuHamed said:
in the ever changing competitive market! there are always newer models to replace older ones! but the problem is, now the frequency of happening such is very high!
anyways even before poco! RN5 roms on 8.1 are fruit from same tree and i found many similar bugs after trying 10 different roms!
1. all have whatsapp behaviour issues (low call volume / voice notes screen offs )
2. random ui crashing on derp kernels when trying ending call
3. random restarts when whatsapp tries wakesup screen as you move away your device from ear! (proximity sensor)
4. poor BT Audio and noise
5. switching between 4g/3g (airplane mode on/off) fails to register sims to network (specially on crdroid roms on derp kernel)
6. touchwiz goes non responsive and nothing works accept navbar on , unless you switch off and on screen. (RR and crdroid)
7. Equiliser works ONLY if its activated before music player,
i havent tested custom rom of pie but i am sure i will find many bugs!
so what is my point?
that even if poco wasnt released! these inherited (verson to version of various custom roms) issues were never fixed! and i never expect them to be fixed!
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You underestimate the power of good devs. Most of these bugs would have been fixed if major devs had continued to work on our device.
They brought up the tree from scratch and literally fixed so many bugs that users reported. If you don't feel like reading xda threads, go watch rom videos of AOSIP etc on youtube from the march/April month. You'll see that they had so many little and big bugs. All of them were fixed slowly and steadily.
So i dont see your point. Devs and their enthusiasm matters a lot. You wouldn't have a single rom running on your phone if devices trees had not been brought up. And then if they had, you wouldn't be using custom roms because of major bugs that they had in April/May. All the bugs that you report are minor and I'm not even facing a single one of them. Oreo is daily driver material because of the months of original development that was put into it by several devs.
Some of the more famous developers got a Poco device and are now spending time with it.
Some other newcomers have come up and launched ROMs in the last 2 weeks or so. That's a chance. Finally, a roadmap to some change.
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Xiaomi launched poco. It marketed it as a developer friendly device. And then it decided to give the device to some devs.
Who did they give it to? People who had previously worked on Xiaomi phones.
And so it happened. Vasishath, shahah_mik and akhilnarang got it. They definitely deserved it.
But with this Note 5 Pro is utterly f****d. Original development has almost completely stopped. Vasishath and shahah_mik brought up LOS and device trees for RN5 and now all they care about is poco.
Go check AOSIP Pie thread. Till 4th October, Akhilnarang was actively working on Pie for RN5 Pro. Now its over. Only derp kernel updates.
Maybe I'm ignorant but only jhenrique seems to be doing original development. Most others are pumping out xyz rom based on same source with same bugs.
I feel so bad. These devs definitely deserved a great phone but it came at the cost of Note 5 Pro. I don't think we will ever get proper Q roms and leave alone that, I don't think we'll ever get fully stable Pie roms like Oreo roms are stable right now.
RN3 launched with 5.1 and got super stable Nougat and Oreo. We started with Oreo and will remain on super stable Oreo custom roms. Other version roms have low chances of being as stable as Oreo.
I urge some developers to pick up LineageOs for this device. "Super glide butter flow remix" rom is nice but first we should have proper Pie code. Otherwise all roms will have similar bugs.
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You've never had an abandoned device.
Delevoping and modding on our Redmi Note 5 is good enough, just open Redmi 4 Pro's Thread, a 100% valid phone with some high specs (launched 2 years ago), abandoned, why? Redmi Note 4 was released like 1 month later, before Redmi 4 Pro was a best-seller, after few months production of that phone was stopped, no official ROMs with regular support (i can remember like 2/3 developers), now it has two Pie ROMs, it's not enough? Abandoned from Xiaomi with Android 6.0 (it has the same specs of Redmi Note 4), bugs never fixed and zero consideration from main developers (just minor and REALLY GOOD developers helped users with that phone), on Redmi Note 5 you have official Pie ROMs, official LineageOS with weekly update, you will have (i think and i really hope for Xiaomi Image) official Android Pie Update, what else?, i think it's really enough
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Firstly what pie bugs are you talking about?
And secondly, we have so many hard working devs here making kernels, recoveries and ROMs. New updates every day, join the telegram group...
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What telegram group are you talking about? Can u share it? Thank you
Search for...
whyred updates official
And whyredcloud
And hers a few more in the screenshot.
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whyred updates official
And whyredcloud
And hers a few more in the screenshot.
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I need the @iD not the names
sad but true thats whats up in the new phone hierarchy to manny new phones in a shortness of time
Letrix said:
I need the @iD not the names
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You know that you can search for groups in the telegram app right...(?)
https://t.me/whyredupdates
What are you talking about? There are literally new rom updates everyday on telegram channel
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You've never had an abandoned device.
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like most samsung devices redmi note 5 pro I way better than samsung devices with the exception maybe being the S5 or S3
there's some updates in telegram that never got to xda. telegram is the worst thing ever happened to xda community. tons of useful discussion buried under trollish and useless questions because of the lack of regulations, probably never again to be found. and if the group ever gets deleted, everything would be gone for good.
In telegram, questions are not allways replyed because it seem theres no devs. I think guys are compiling roms and this is all, if it is a bug in a rom, no one is able to solve it when you ask about the problem.
There s only 3 fully working roms i have tested ( LOS 15.1, PIE experience and MIUI ), the rest is a simple patch of these 3 roms and only upgrades are bugs.
I fully agreed with 1emrys1 post.
I'm considering to learn about developing a rom. Anyone know where to start? Because you can really depend on yourself
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there's some updates in telegram that never got to xda. telegram is the worst thing ever happened to xda community. tons of useful discussion buried under trollish and useless questions because of the lack of regulations, probably never again to be found. and if the group ever gets deleted, everything would be gone for good.
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Gotta agree on that
Telegram could be used to obtain feedback for some ROM, kernel or mod quickly, but as it is an instant messaging app, and people really lack any sense or knowledge about proper issue report (info on flashing procedure, current setup, methods to reproduce and logs) it just becomes a complete useless mess where important information is easily lost. Here, at least you can properly search for something and people's tendency to post something might be lower than on IM apps.
I would argue that the development for our device is gone, because there are still devs who are working on it, it might be just slower than usual but not necessarily worse.
On another note, the user base has to be more disciplined and just a bit more educated on how each one of us can contribute to a better development. Posting irrelevant and repetitive crap like fix this pls, this not works, give me links can iritate devs and drive them off, not to make them use another device, but to avoid posting their work with others.
Biggest fail on forums today, and I'm starting to see that all around XDA, is lack of respect for another user/dev/modder/contributor. People do not use the search function, which is the first and most important rule here, do not read the OP and features/bugs section, do not post proper issue report, and demand this or that, and the worst thing is when you point a finger at them and say - you are wrong that's not the way we do things here, they either don't (or pretend) understand and come back at you with insults behaving like they own this place.
EDIT: And there we go, just as I've posted this, someone made a thread in development section asking for kernAl with some features. Just the other day, a dude made a thread in the development section about Arnova's GCam (there is already "official/main" one in Themes and Apps) saying that this works on his device and something else doesn't etc.
I mean, I understand, not everyone has the knowledge about everything, but come one if you come to know about XDA you need to be at least informed about basics.
I'm moving on from my Moto G3 Osprey, which still has the stock ROM, and giving it to a family member who's been stuck on an aging Android Jelly Bean phone. Before I hand it over, since I'm wiping the device anyways, I've been considering flashing another ROM.
I and the other family member are both on T-mobile. The speculated Band 12 support was one reason I originally got the G3, and so when Moto dropped B12 rather than update for VoLTE support I was disappointed; not getting a Nougat update was a further downer. If I can fix that before handing it over, it'll really help make the phone more useful for them. But I don't need the latest and greatest and still-debugging-what-doesn't-work-iest. I'd flash this once and hand it over, and this family member is not very technically oriented. It needs to be usable and stable. What should I grab?
Someone asked a similar question a year ago and the answers were split between "stick with stock" and "get official lineage 14.1." But it sounds like since then the official maintainer stopped and people have focused a lot of effort on 15.x roms. Is one of those (e.g. althafvly's?) a safe bet? Or is it better to use official 14.1 despite its less-maintained status, or even to forgo volte and just give them a stock phone?
BTW I'll also mention that Bluetooth and the flashlight have been on the fritz and I've wondered whether flashing the ROM might alleviate those problems. Maybe that's a battery issue; I've replaced the screen before and replacing the battery doesn't seem that much more involved so I might do that before handing it over.
I would suggest you go with AOSPExtended v5.8 it'll has all the latest security patches, but it isn't maintained now because the dev is working on Pie now. It's a stable ROM with quite a lot of features. I get about 2:30 to 3 hours of SoT with moderate to heavy usage on a bad battery(I intend to replace it) from it. Other options you can look at are Lineage 14 the last official build or AOSPExtended Nougat, both solid Nougat ROMs but you'll miss out on the security patches. I moved through both of these to AOSPEx v5.8.
However there are other ROMs you might look at, I haven't used them though
Pixel Experience Oreo
Resurrection Remix Oreo
Lineage 14.1 is the best suited for your needs. It is stable and will be updated (once or twice in a month) so you will be getting latest patches.It it most close-to-stock Rom
Hello guys,
we already are noticing how xiaomi is starting to lift her hand off our beloved Poco F1 to make us change device. but as users of this device,
we know this is very hard for most of us mostly because of budget reasons, and this device still has a lot of potential with SD845.
to counter xiaomi attempts, i am inviting you to write down suggestions of custom roms that you have used with some details like
how often the rom is getting updates, is it stable, does the devs keep fixing major bugs with updates, performance, battery life, bloatwares,
and why not suggest TWRP versions and kernels you are using.
i hope this thread gets some attention and let's keep using our beloved Poco F1.
peace.
I don't care about Xiaomi's MIUI updates anymore because custom roms are better, If you are new to custom roms I suggest you start with Lineage 17 as it is stable and smooth and It gets updates almost every month or less, If you want customizations you can try Pixel Experience Plus.
I've been using Awaken os based on Android 11 for three days now and I can recommend it also even though it's not fully stable.
Lineage is a solid choice for sure , arrow aint bad either ( very curious about the 11 build ) but for now i stick with CRdroid.
There are some very small minor issues there but compared to the mess of miui it's a laugh..
Honestly, they're all pretty lousy.
No offence to any Poco Devs here, we all know they do it for free, but just look at all the posts in Lineage OS recently - more and more bugs keep popping up.
They *are* weeklies, though - but we have no stable custom ROM's it seems because everyone just copies LOS DT and Devs don't have time to run CTS or VTS on their builds to make sure things actually work.
I think the key is to find a ROM that is being hand developed by someone who actually *uses* the ROM as their daily. Because right now it just seems like these are all blind builds or have only basic testing, e.g. "cool it boots, ready for release, bugs = you tell me" and they can't tackle all bugs because they're too busy or whatever.
Again, no disrespect intended - it just seems like many devs build ROM's for personal fun. And really I don't blame them, fixing stuff is generally way more boring than addin X trendy feature, right? [emoji14]
With that said, if you don't mind a pure AOSP experience with minimal mods, I've started work on an Android 11 GSI which I will be using *personally* and I intend to slowly add features over time. I will provide a custom modified vendor if I have to, to fix any GSI weirdness (despite that not being the direction Phh likes to go, Poco does some weird stuff of vendor last I checked which makes GSI's imperfect - but it's hopefully all things that I can fix). Note though that Magisk on Android 11 GSI's is not currently possible, though you can toggle root on/off with sooti's latest Dev work. My ultimate goal though is to make a ROM where I no longer need root, I'm personally exhausted with the SafetyNet vs Magisk arms race.
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So far I started with Pixel Experience, than switched for a year and few months with Lineage 16. Wich was good.
Now, I'm using Evolution X and very happy with it. The last firmware update was last september, so I recommend it.
iam using havoc for quiet some time, its got call recording, its pretty stable, got some issues with bluetooth(tws) connection and some very minor bugs. Havoc is my recommended rom.
The only feature i miss from miui ports roms is the dual statusbar.