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Wow. Just wow. I mean, this phone has got to be at least nine months old by now. And guess what - I haven't seen a stable build of CM11 yet. In fact, I haven't seen a build where audio even works as it should, and in the latest nightly, the audio derped out completely, even in calls. GPS doesn't work. WiFi drops every 5 minutes or so. Mobile data doesn't activate for about half an hour, even then it drops out every 5 minutes, just like the WiFi.
Cyanogenmod is beyond a joke. The Moto G runs stock android out of the box, so there is literally nothing for the CM team to modify to get CM to work on it. They should at least get audio and GPS working - in contrast there is an unstable, unofficial build for the Samsung Galaxy Ace "s5830" of CM11 that has more things working than the current "official", "stable" build on the Moto G.
I thought CM was meant to be about bringing Stock android to all devices, on Google's schedule, long after OEMs and carriers have dropped support for these devices. What's crazy here is that the Moto G's "stock" software has had a version of 4.4.4 available for months; Motorola have finished it, and carriers have got round to rolling it out - and it's been on my phone for several weeks now.
My point is, Motorola (who are very lazy when it comes to updates) have finished 4.4.4, given the update to carriers, who then procrastinated about rolling it out for weeks before finally rolling it out, and still, despite all this, Cyanogenmod haven't even got a stable build of kitkat at all, let alone 4.4.4, to offer. They are literally worse than OEMs and carriers at updating their phones on time.
If you have a Moto G, please do not ruin it by installing cyanogenmod on it. It is useless beyond belief, and you will cry for days about having turned your phone into an expensive paperweight. On the bright side, if that corner of your piece of paper just won't stick down, go ahead and install CM.
Is this is a complain or something like that lol? BTW I don't have any issues with CM or CM based ROMs.
Here we go. At this point, I am also waiting for a more stable version of CM 11 for Falcon. Yes, there are issues with it. Some are pretty notable, others are barely (or not at all) notable.
The thing here is that you are using open sourced software. There are some really, really experienced developers working on CM 11 to make it better for us, the end users. However, and I have seen this happen before, some lesser-experienced developers might forget about something every once in a while causing issues on the devices. This can happen. It happens to everyone, Motorola developers included (just look at the reports of battery drain issues across the Android versions).
CyanogenMod is a great team and are introducing features that improve Android in small, yet very useful ways. These features, in themselves, are working brilliantly. The only quirk with this is that CyanogenMod is trying to get each and every different phone to run Android in combination with those features. I might be wrong here, but that seems like that's causing a lot of trouble over some different devices, including the Moto G. If CyanogenMod adds a new feature to (for recent issues' sake) audio for devices CyanogenMod support (an update library for example), there's always a chance that gets pushed to the Moto G, and there's something with the Moto G that makes it not function properly. This is really notable in the Nightly releases. The most recent Nightly releases, 07-24 and 07-25 contain an issue that makes it so that audio isn't functioning properly. This is always a possibility. It's a Nightly, unstable, release. You cannot complain that it's not working on a version that's not intended to be stable.
This brings me to another point, the "Stable" release category. Moto G's most recent "Stable" release, M6, is really pretty stable. On everyday use, I could not see any one issue with it. The reason for there not being a M7 or M8 "Stable" release, is that there's issues with them, so CyanogenMod decided that it shouldn't be classed "Stable" for our device and therefor did not release them. I'm sure that, when there's a new safe-to-be-called-Stable release, CyanogenMod will push that to our device as well.
CyanogenMod is open source. There are bugs in it. You sign up for that in exchange for some new features and continued support from the developers. For the most part, the core software is stable. It's the "drivers" for the phone that are causing issues. Also, the new features have to be tested and the bugs that are in them should get reported to CyanogenMod so that the team can fix them. If you don't report the bugs, how would they get squashed? I have reported the audio issue on the most recent Nightly releases to CyanogenMod, which brings it to their attention and, while it is being fixed, the Nightly releases are temporarily postponed until the issue is fixed to prevent any further harm that this issue might cause. That is what CyanogenMod is about. They release something, obtain feedback, fix it, release that fix, obtain feedback, fix it and release that fix. That cycle keeps continuing. If they don't obtain feedback, they will just keep doing what they are doing -- add new features, which might cause the bugs you found to keep being there forever and ever.
And you may say that trying to report stuff in Nightly releases isn't 'allowed' on their feedback site, you're looking in the wrong place. You should look in the Nightly Regressions section of the CyanogenMod JIRA -- not the regular Issues section.
If you have any comment on what I just stated, please do reply to me. If there's anything that's wrong with what I just stated, please do correct me. If you dislike anything about what I just stated, please do not just post a hate comment on it -- actually explain what you don't like and why so I can, in turn, respond to that as well.
Thanks for reading.
I've never had problems with CM11 i'm using xt1032 btw
Whoooa... sorry guys didn't mean to offend anyone just wanted to vent.
My point is if some 12 year old can get audio working on some ****ty outdated low end samsung device with no sources (eg the s5830i), whoever is in charge of the Moto G (a modern, officially supported device btw) should be able to AT LEAST MAKE THE DAMN AUDIO FECKING WORK.
IMHO custom ROMs are dead and xposed is the future.
I've just heard they've stopped development for the Moto G entirely. Motorola and the various carriers their phones are on have got their act together and released 4.4.4, CM haven't finished... ...anything.
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Whoooa... sorry guys didn't mean to offend anyone just wanted to vent.
My point is if some 12 year old can get audio working on some ****ty outdated low end samsung device with no sources (eg the s5830i), whoever is in charge of the Moto G (a modern, officially supported device btw) should be able to AT LEAST MAKE THE DAMN AUDIO FECKING WORK.
IMHO custom ROMs are dead and xposed is the future.
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Whoa… No need to swear. I'm not flaming on you. I even partially agree with you. I just provided you with what I think about the matter, and nothing negative about any of what you commented. There's absolutely no need to go crazy about what a few members comment on your post.
Have a great day, sir, and lighten up a bit.
Hi all,
Over the past few months I have been building CyanogenMod (now LineageOS) 13.0 for my personal use. It's based off Kumajaya's sources and was roughly parallel to emfox's builds. I'm doing this because I'm dissatisfied with the stability and reliability of existing ROMs. (I can't claim that mine is any better, however it does put me in a position to debug the issues.)
This is an interest check. I am considering publishing my nightlies for people to download. I know that everyone will give a blanket "yes" to the question "should I publish my nightlies for people to download?". So instead I would like to ask:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
(Long time reader, first time poster!)
This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
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This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
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I second this! More roms/more activity keeps this device alive longer too
1. Your development wil keep this device alive longer.
2.(maybe) attract other dev/team to build rom for this device.
3.it will make your rom better,by sharing and let many people using it, will helps you find problem faster and improve it.
so yes!
Always useful to have more I have an Aqua (mi4s) and the rom scene is very poor :/ a few Libra roms do support it but in recent months even the SD card support has gone making for quite a sad outlook for the device. If there were someone building nightlies, it would be ace as from time to time you might be able to dip into the aqua stuff too and we'd all appreciate that
Whatever you decide, it's a nice thing to even consider doing for the community. You have my thanks
honestly i think Marshmallow is waste of time, most of the people are interested only in newest Android and i don't see much interest since we have official nougat ROMs from Mokee, AICP and Resurrection remix
if you want to do something different there is Nougat AOSP ROM missing, blobs from Xiaomi are already available, Nexus 5X as well, so...
more roms, more options. i want my mi4c looks better than Nexus 5X
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Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
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It really depends on what you would have to offer. The available CM13 (or are we calling them LO13 now?) ROMs are TeamSuperluminal's and Emfox's builds which are really not actively maintained anymore, although they are pretty damn stable. Except of course the few bugs that seem to go unfixed -- the touchscreen bug, which appears to be really complicated to fix without newer Xiaomi's kernel sources, the 2% battery bug which is present in TeamSuperluminal's builds and isn't a gamebreaker, and the way the SoC uses its cores in most of the ROMs based on Kumajaya's kernel sources (always active big cores) which results in lower battery life.
If you solved some of these problems, expect users to flock to your ROM. If not, I wouldn't bother, since you'll just be flooded with requests for fixing stuff that isn't broken in the first place. In fact, expect the second even if you deliver on the first.
I don't maintain any ROMs so I'm not one to give advice, but it seems to me it's a lot of work, and that you're paid with criticism and demands for more of your time. Get in contact with a ROM author and ask them for advice on this
Thanks for the thoughts.
As far as I can figure, there are 3 things people want:
Features/being on the cutting edge
Performance
Stability/reliability
We want all 3 but unfortunately it is a trade-off. In particular it takes special effort to achieve stability when combined with the other 2.
The CM14.1 builds satisfy the people who want to live on the cutting edge. The Xceed ROM is built for speed for those who think that Snapdragon 808 should perform like the top-tier chipset that it is
But out of all the ROMs I've tried (haven't tried the CM14.1 builds yet but have tried most of the others) I've had the following stability problems:
Screen freezes, requiring reboot
Sleeps of death
Random reboots in the middle of the night (waking up at 3 a.m. to find my phone clicking at me on the "decrypt your device" screen)
Stuttering or hangups
OpenGL-based games crashing
And that's not including the well-publicised touchscreen and battery problems.
So my personal strategy is:
Marshmallow build. Sorry for those who want Nougat, but I don't consider it stable enough (yet). Plus, all the proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi are targeted at Android L, and getting them working on Android M is hard enough already...
For the kernel, track CAF closely. Probably take their Android N release on the assumption that it's stable
Use as few proprietary blobs as possible; build from CAF source where available. This is what most developers are doing already
Use the most recent proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi, on the assumption that they've been buillding this version of MIUI on Android L for such a long time that it's stable
Avoid importing proprietary blobs from other devices (Nexus 5X, Moto X Pure etc.) where possible for licensing reasons. I don't intend to try and make this an offical LineageOS build, but this might be important for whoever attempts in future...
All this is difficult and @ketut.kumajaya and friends put in some impressive hacks to get it to work in the first place. I can't promise that I can build on this! But if I ever get to a stage where it's fit for consumption, I'll publish something...
in my opinion this will be great for development on Libra devices, i think Nougat rom with clean source will be great for user like me sir. For now iam using RR Nougat and for me its stable for daily use, if we can make Libra official for Lineage it can open other rom change to get official build too. Best luck for you sir and cant wait for your contribution
I realise this is probably a bit of a controversial question to ask on XDA, however has anyone else just stuck with the stock Cyanogen OS on their OnePlus One?
I was thinking today when reading about Lineage OS I have pretty much kept my OnePlus One stock since i got it in July 2014, out the box Cyanogen OS had everything i'd otherwise flash a custom rom for. I did try some early Marshmallow roms around February last year, however due to various bugs I went back to stock and waited for the Marshmallow OTA.
These days i'd certainly take stability over having the latest and greatest version of Android. Of course I don't intend that as any disrespect to the developers on here, more than anything I think I just got tired of tinkering with my phone and have enjoyed just using it.
However I do plan on flashing Lineage OS in the future, which seems quite strange after not flashing a custom rom for almost a year.
It's great to see XDA is still going strong, even more so that the OnePlus currently has the most users of unofficial installs of Lineage OS :good:
My father does have the official builds hahahah we both have the opo but he's okay if it works, so keeping it simple is the best way for him.
As far as Cyanogen OS goes
It's bad and bloated
I tried to stay on it, and did for a bit when security updates were being applied
But had a bunch of reboots and overheating issues. Had to dump it.
Was on stock COS till today since i couldnt find a rom that suited my needs and passed safetynet. Today i flashed lineage OS official, everything is smooth and it passes safety net (i can now use my banking app while running nougat). So yeah today is the day i left COS and marshmallow
I don't even know why I'm still on official CyanOS. The screen time is dreadful. I think I'll give LOS a chance in the near future. It can't be any worse than 3-4 hours of screen time, what I'm getting now with official COS.
Cyanogen may be sold in the future and they can push harmful updates to your device, so I'd say updating is a very good choice.
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
I do sometimes think maybe I should have stayed stock but then I think of all the fun I've had
Now I need my phone to work for calls and alarms as a minimum so take less risks now
I'm still on marsh 2.0 from way back last august
i would but cyanogen 13.1 has a problem with the mobile network.........
Luck Patcher
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I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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You can try Lucky Patcher. They have a custom patch for YouTube background playback. Works on Nougat. Hope this helps
For anyone who wants the best stable experience, I'd suggest sultanxda's CM13 ROM. May it be for girlfriends, dad's, whoever. That ROM will never fall behind.
Cheers.
Well I am still sticking with rooted cyanogen os. I have color camera, viper4android, Sony Media Apps like Walkman and xposed.
Can anyone enlighten me whether noughat build supports viper4android and a good camera mod like color os or cameranext mod? If so I don't mind installing it immediately..
I'm still on stock ROM, because I'm using NFC payments on the tube. Battery life with screen on is dreadful. I would upgrade in a heartbeat should there be any ROM that's signed by Google. Is there any hope to get that ?
My story sounds a lot like the OP. I got my OPO as soon as the invites started going out (I had signed up long before release) and I just couldn't wait to get it and start rooting and TWRPing and ROMing. I tried just about every ROM that was out there including OOS. But, as is often the case with enthusiast ROMS, there always seemed to be some little something somewhere that didn't quite work right. I also had terrible problems with the radios on almost all ROMs including the stock ROM. That got corrected during the second or third update though.
I have a lot of smartphones, so eventually, I moved onto other phones and other tinkering. Then one day, not too long ago, I wondered what it would be like to restore my OPO back to factory stock - no root; reset the tamper bit - and update to the latest official update - so I did.
I have to say that the OPO has never been as stable and reliable as it is in that condition. Best radio reception since I got the phone, silky smooth Android experience (even on two year old hardware), and rarely any crashes or FCs. Truly a STABLE phone.
But even as good as it is running now, I still worry about not getting any future updates and in particular security patches, so I will be looking to flash a good stable build of Lineage OS after reading up on other users' experiences.
Still have to say though that through all of my phones (Galaxy's, Lumias, iPhones, and everything in between), I'd still put my OPO up there with my trusted iPhone 6S for reliability and the "It Just Works" factor.
Hi! I'm running COS, the latest update i received via OTA. I'll wait for a stable build for Nougat, also, there are some xposed modules I cannot live without so i guess i wait for a little bit.
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I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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Which Xposed module let's you do that? please let me know. I know I can search but can't get one that works.
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I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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There's an unofficial Lineage OS 13 for our bacon, here in XDA. Stable no issues and xposed compatible
Which rom would be the best to put on here that gets OTA updates?
Current Setup:
Android 4.4.4
CyanogenMod 11.0XNPH44S
I haven't used the phone since the battery went out years ago but I replaced it and wanted to give my mom a nice daily since her phone broke. Preferably something simple as she is an older lady, that can use the Play Store/gapps, Spanish language would be a plus, quick, and long battery life. She's coming off an older Moto G so this is still an upgrade but I wanted to make sure she got something nice and I haven't looked into flashing roms in ages. There are so many cool roms I would use for myself, but I want something my mom can use and I won't have to worry about helping her with (she lives across the country).
If you've replaced the battery it's probably an overrated counterfeit that isn't actually 3000mah~.
The phone doesn't really get OTA's per se anymore, not for quite some time now, beyond custom ROM's and all the funkiness that goes with that (eg not suitable for mom).
Best in terms of daily, reliability and battery life would be to run SultanXDA's LOS 7.1. Runs and looks stock, no funky weird CUSTOM 1337 features, pretty much no weird reboots and so forth. It's EOL'd as well though so no OTA's for it either anymore. Oreo customs is good but YMMV, I still wouldn't recommend any of the builds for a "normal" user.
official LOS 15.1
Candy 8.1
Carbon 8.1
OTA available
disable : auto-rotate/proximity check/DT2W
location : set to battery saving
I bought recently the OP6 and i gave my OPO to my mother too, when i was using it, i was running the TugaPower Rom N series, now it's on N58 i think, very very good rom, stable and debloated, just try it ^^
Planning to install official LOS 15.1 soon, but being the first version I'm not too keen on doing it so soon. Still running on last stock OTA COS version and the battery runs smoothly at 85% after 4 years of intensive daily usage. Since moved to 5T couple of months ago, I one the OP1 as ebook and gaming device only, but I would like to upgrade the OS and probably I'll go first for LOS-14.1-2018-06-13 version first, since it's the last one. At least to check the battery consumption first.
Thanks everyone! I ended up flashing SultanXDA's LOS 7.1 , thanks for the advice.
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Thanks everyone! I ended up flashing SultanXDA's LOS 7.1 , thanks for the advice.
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Let me know please how that goes for you. Yesterday I just factory reset mine and now I'm reinstalling all apps fresh removing CM account in the process to see how the battery goes with that hog.
Thank you
Howdy all! I've dug out a couple old Nexus 5's that I stopped using a while back when I got PH-1 and am looking to reflash one of them for a friend who needs a phone and can't afford to buy new. When I was using them last I was running LineageOS 14.1. I'd like to set him up with something stable that he can use as a daily driver for a while and was looking for suggestions. It looks like a ton of ROMs have been updated and I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction for a good current setup that will be easy on the battery and have the most features without compromising stability. Is there a commonly accepted "best" Nexus 5 build? I'm good at following directions, but a lot of the technical stuff is over my head, so trying to research everything I've missed for the last couple years is making my head spin lol. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Stable ROM for Nexus 5
Hey,
I have found AOKP to be really good for my Nexus 5. It has the stability of Lineage 14.1, but also has a few nice little additions: OMS support for Substratum, customisable navbar, a few tweaks here and there. And it is still being developed, and receives regular updates.
Not too heavy on the fancy stuff, so for me it's a nice tradeoff between "stock" AOSP/Lineage, and a few little enhancements.
Also the Nexus 5 is officially supported by the developers, which is important to me.
I've tried Android O and Android P ROMs on my Nexus 5, but I still find Nougat ROMs seem to run the best.
I also have a Nexus 7 (2013) tablet, and the ROM is also available for that as well. As I have OCD, I "need" both my phone and tablet to run the same system, and AOKP gives me this.
Just my suggestion, anyway. Give it a try, and see what you think.
Cheers
Shaun
Thanks! I will check it out
if you like simpler thing i would suggest LOS 14.1 even tho our hammerhead are not supported officially you can use unofficial build by razorloves here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80268653&postcount=3145 or another one here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80210774&postcount=3 they updated it once a month at least with security updates each months
also if you want tor try LOS 14.1 CAF you can try this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80340013&postcount=753
I also have a Nexus 5 laying around that I mostly use as an extra device to test apps on. However, since my apps usually require working Bluetooth LE and other network related stuff, I have refrained from using Android Oreo and Pie based ROMs since I always read that there's some issues with this or that.
I have stayed with the latest Lineage OS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) and it has worked pretty well. However, I have now decided to move to something a little bit fresher, but still based on Nougat. I went with the AOKP suggestion made by @shaunoleary since they are still releasing official builds. Unfortunately the AOKP's security patch level is still on February 2019.
If want something with a more up-to-date security patch level you can also try these LineageOS 14.1 builds: https://forum.xda-developers.com/go...opment/rom-cm14-1-nexus-5-hammerhead-t3510548 which are supposed to be on September 2019 security patch level.
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I also have a Nexus 5 laying around that I mostly use as an extra device to test apps on. However, since my apps usually require working Bluetooth LE and other network related stuff, I have refrained from using Android Oreo and Pie based ROMs since I always read that there's some issues with this or that.
I have stayed with the latest Lineage OS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) and it has worked pretty well. However, I have now decided to move to something a little bit fresher, but still based on Nougat. I went with the AOKP suggestion made by @shaunoleary since they are still releasing official builds. Unfortunately the AOKP's security patch level is still on February 2019.
If want something with a more up-to-date security patch level you can also try these LineageOS 14.1 builds: https://forum.xda-developers.com/go...opment/rom-cm14-1-nexus-5-hammerhead-t3510548 which are supposed to be on September 2019 security patch level.
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Hey Peter - thanks for the nod
I acknowledge that AOKP's security patch level is a bit dated, but having used LineageOS for a long time, I found some of the features AOKP throws into Lineage, I'm willing to sacrifice that for the extra goodies AOKP offers.
I have decided to stick to Nougat for as long as I can. I tried Oreo and Pie, and had noting but trouble with Bluetooth. It's such a shame when they bring out such a solid, stable release of Android like Nougat, and then stop supporting it because it's not "the latest".
Just as an aside, I have recently been using MicroG (Nanodroid package) instead of GAPPS on my N5 (and my N7 2013 as well), and have found it to be very usable now. Google Pay does not work, but aside from that, I get much better battery life than using GAPPS. In fact, my location accuracy seems to be better, and I've got Play Store working a treat.
Hi there, I have the same problem, my N5 stayed on last security patches from the official rom in Feb 2019. Then Lineage ended official support. Did someone try to install the unofficial version (made by razerlove) over the last official build. Would that work? Any hints?
I've tried them all it seems, having acquired dozens of units a few years back .. Im serious, i think im absurdly qualified to make this recommendation.
Hundreds of ROMs/kernels/use cases.
Maybe something is fast and beautiful, until you install more than a few apps, and then it chokes. Maybe it works great with most carriers but not the one you have. My point is that nexuses that aren't working get reformatted and a winnowing occurs.
And gradually a winner emerged. I now have this on 90% of n5s.
If you must have android 9, I recommend floko, but my #1 n5 ROM is
crdroid 7.1.2 LOS caf
with opengapps
and truesight 4.4 caf kernel ,
although the one it installs is fine.
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Oh, and I dont know if it fits without the UA repartition mod, but I can attest to it working since I've modified most units with the mod at this point.
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I've tried them all it seems, having acquired dozens of units a few years back .. Im serious, i think im absurdly qualified to make this recommendation.
Hundreds of ROMs/kernels/use cases.
Maybe something is fast and beautiful, until you install more than a few apps, and then it chokes. Maybe it works great with most carriers but not the one you have. My point is that nexuses that aren't working get reformatted and a winnowing occurs.
And gradually a winner emerged. I now have this on 90% of n5s.
If you must have android 9, I recommend floko, but my #1 n5 ROM is
crdroid 7.1.2 LOS caf
with opengapps
and truesight 4.4 caf kernel ,
although the one it installs is fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/go...ent/rom-crdroid-release-weekend-t3182013/amp/
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