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Custom ROMs... Are they still worth it?

I have been a flashaholic for some time, probably the Eclair days, but I really question if it's worth it now days.
Most Lollipop and newer ROMs, except for Nexus devices, seem to have some kind of issues... If not immediately, then over time. While at the same time factory ROMs get better, partially because the base code is better and because many manufacturers are getting better at it.
And now, some features are being blocked just by unlocking of bootloader, even if you're otherwise stock, like Android Pay and others like Pok�©mon Go.
I find all I really do now on custom roms is some interface tweaks... Change the battery icon, add a clear all button to recents, and add arrows to the navigation bar, all minor stuff. Otherwise things like Nova Launcher, SwiftKey, and GSAM largely don't even require root anymore much less a custom ROM. Part of it used to be for battery life, but now, at least on modern Moto devices, most custom roms struggle just to match the battery life of stock.
I've tried every rom for this device I can find, here and other places, and they all seem to have a variety of things that fail, from minor annoyances to major services broken like GPS, or they fail over time.
My question for discussion is it still worth it, and why do you ROM or even root anymore?

I used to run a variety CM ROM's on Samsung Galaxy & Note devices. Starting with the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and then every decent device Samsung released until the bootloaders stopped getting cracked.
There was always something that just didn't work right and I'd have random crashes.
But for me it was semi-worth it. I like to tinker and customize a lot.
Fast forward to the last thirteen months with my first non-Samsung since. A Motorola Moto X Pure.
Best damn phone I've ever had.
And there is CM available, but I quickly discovered AOSP ROM's like Dirty Unicorn and Broken OS.
Both these ROM's are FULL of customization not found in Xposed modules, and both ROM's have been 100% reliable.
I may have had one lockup in the last 13 months. And everything from GPS to Bluetooth, etc. have all worked perfectly.
So for me, yes... custom ROM's are more than worth it once you find the right ROM. My phone is heavily customized to my needs and super reliable.
The only thing lacking with MotoX was kernel development. Which I guess is where you start losing some reliability.
But it's also where I'm hoping the Pixel will get some good development and I'm looking forward to it. :good:

Non-rooted stock MM has been going great for me lately. Lots of great built in features like Moto actions, etc. I play Pokemon while walking on my breaks at work, and the last few updates forced my hand to go back to stock. I was (am) also a flashoholic, and it was mainly to have custom features and better performance on outdated and mfg abandoned phones. It was also a must for my Kindle Fire. I really don't see myself going away from stock MM (soon to be Nougat) on my MXPE at this point. I still flash ROMs on my G2 and Note 3 though, but barely use them outside the house.

CZ Eddie said:
I used to run a variety CM ROM's on Samsung Galaxy & Note devices. Starting with the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and then every decent device Samsung released until the bootloaders stopped getting cracked.
There was always something that just didn't work right and I'd have random crashes.
But for me it was semi-worth it. I like to tinker and customize a lot.
Fast forward to the last thirteen months with my first non-Samsung since. A Motorola Moto X Pure.
Best damn phone I've ever had.
And there is CM available, but I quickly discovered AOSP ROM's like Dirty Unicorn and Broken OS.
Both these ROM's are FULL of customization not found in Xposed modules, and both ROM's have been 100% reliable.
I may have had one lockup in the last 13 months. And everything from GPS to Bluetooth, etc. have all worked perfectly.
So for me, yes... custom ROM's are more than worth it once you find the right ROM. My phone is heavily customized to my needs and super reliable.
The only thing lacking with MotoX was kernel development. Which I guess is where you start losing some reliability.
But it's also where I'm hoping the Pixel will get some good development and I'm looking forward to it. :good:
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Hmm... I have been on that "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for a while now. After a month started suffering SoD randomly and Play Services has stopped issues. DU 10.6 couldn't maintain GPS lock, but 10.5 was fine, seemed to effect only a handful of devices, lucky me.
Anyway, thanks for your input.

acejavelin said:
Hmm... I have been on that "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for a while now. After a month started suffering SoD randomly and Play Services has stopped issues. DU 10.6 couldn't maintain GPS lock, but 10.5 was fine, seemed to effect only a handful of devices, lucky me.
Anyway, thanks for your input.
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I also have been a avid user of the "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for many months now with no real issues. By chance have you tried a fresh install again. The latest release was back in late August a 4.9.1 version that made corrections to some issues on the 4.9 release.

Jimi Mack said:
I also have been a avid user of the "rom that shan't be named on XDA" for many months now with no real issues. By chance have you tried a fresh install again. The latest release was back in late August a 4.9.1 version that made corrections to some issues on the 4.9 release.
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Not yet... I have been on 4.9.1 already, and have been working with the devs a bit on it but seems mostly isolated to my device.

acejavelin said:
Not yet... I have been on 4.9.1 already, and have been working with the devs a bit on it but seems mostly isolated to my device.
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If anything try a fresh install and see if your issues were only from maybe a bad original install. If they show up again then I would say they are isolated to your device.

Jimi Mack said:
If anything try a fresh install and see if your issues were only from maybe a bad original install. If they show up again then I would say they are isolated to your device.
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I'm out of town for the weekend, in a rather rural area, so maybe will try tomorrow evening.

LMT pie, adaway, naptime, and general tweaking are the only reasons I root on a phone this close to stock android.
I didn't run custom ROMs on this phone until about August of this year. That was when battery life on aicp started to get comparable with stock for me. I can get most of the features I want from gravitybox, but I prefer them baked into the ROM. Xposed always seems a little problematic even when you don't install janky modules. I really like the notification led; missed that when I got this phone. I know we're supposed to use moto display, but I think that makes more sense on amoled than a great big LCD. Never had good luck with lightflow or the led enabler apps, but the custom roms work great. I really like slim recents too. I haven't found any modules that work to put KitKat like recents on M ROMs.

TruPureXMM + GravityBox
Loved my MXP so much I bought one for my mom who was hating her iPhone5. Kept it stock (for obvious reasons), so I have a good baseline to compare to my MXP running TruPureXMM + GravityBox. I've tried a bunch of ROMS for this phone but I always come back to TruPureXMM + GravityBox. Oh, and Tasker.
There is no way in hell I would go back to stock.

I used Cyanogenmod on my HTC Incredible and Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Didn't root or ROM for a while due to using the stock ROM on the 2nd generation Verizon Moto X 2014 and stock Android on the Nexus 5X and 6P. But, I had the itch to unlock the bootloader on my Moto X Pure, due to curiousity, and because it's likely that we will only see one more Nougat update. I tried CM13, but I was getting UI freeze ups and slowdowns on multiple builds, so I tried Dirty Unicorns 10.6, and that has been working fine. I may return to the stock ROM after the Nougat update, but in the meantime, I'm happy experimenting with different ROMs on the Pure.

I'd be cool with stock- as long as I could debloat it.
And it was updated fairly quickly.

Stock for this phone is great. Better than most. Only issue really is Moto is so far behind on security updates. They are on what, May I believe? CM13 is Oct.
Sent from my XT1575 using XDA-Developers mobile app

Stock here, never a issue. With Nougat in the horizon, a custom ROM is a big NO for me.
Enviado desde mi XT1575 mediante Tapatalk

I would say TruPureX with a few mods is a very solid and stable way to go. I myself am on TurboROM which has ceased current development, but have ZERO issues. AICP's MM build is the most feature filled and works flawlessly aside from one issue I don't have on other ROMs, where my bank app only shows black when using the camera to deposit checks, making AICP unusable for me, but highly recommended for others to try as that's the absolute only issue I could find after a week full of testing (Kind of what I do as a hobby is push ROMs to their limits to find the issues.)
So in short: TruPureXMM, TurboROM, AICP - are all great choices without the negatives associated with many custom ROMs.

Pretty sure we are all here to push the ROMs to he limits lol?
Sent from my XT1575 using XDA-Developers mobile app

Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.
I'm in a limited data area so I haven't downloaded or tried them out yet.

jason2678 said:
Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.
I'm in a limited data area so I haven't downloaded or tried them out yet.
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Running the latest Zephyr after trying AICP and CM14. Uses substratum and SuperSU. Camera recording isn't working with snapdragon camera (FC), google camera (records but doesn't save). Had an android.phone FC but replaced with google phone/contacts and no problems so far. Still need to test speakerphone and bluetooth, but assuming those work as well as 6.0.1 I'm pretty impressed by Birdman.

Any roms that anyone can recommend? CM13 and OrionOS both have very bad stuttering after some time of use. Has anyone tried Pure Nexus or Slim6? Just need a good daily driver that can handle games without heating up so hot, and handle most social apps great...

jason2678 said:
Speaking of custom ROMs, I just searched android file host for Clark and there are new 7.0 builds of zephyros, pure nexus, aosp, and cos.
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Seriously? We've got like one and a half here.

Best and most stable ROM with features working beyond 7.1.2?

Im on a 7.1.2 ROM and its getting real buggy so its time I wipe and switch to a new ROM, preferably newer than 7.1.2
Look, I understand the outdated "test and see which is best" but my phone is for my job and I work all day so I can't be with a buggy phone and be testing, wiping, etc. every day/hours; I need a working phone and stable features. Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
* Bluetooth hands free MUST work.
* GPS must work
* Camera and its flashlight must work
* Data (4G/WiFi) must work
* I need battery life to maintain a stable level; I can't be carrying powerbanks or stuff like that.
* Responsive; The phone is showing its age but it must be able to keep doing simple tasks as fluid as it can
What do you recommend?
Thanks

A new phone.

riahc3 said:
Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
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philash_flash said:
A new phone.
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Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
riahc3 said:
Im on a 7.1.2 ROM and its getting real buggy so its time I wipe and switch to a new ROM, preferably newer than 7.1.2
Look, I understand the outdated "test and see which is best" but my phone is for my job and I work all day so I can't be with a buggy phone and be testing, wiping, etc. every day/hours; I need a working phone and stable features. Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
* Bluetooth hands free MUST work.
* GPS must work
* Camera and its flashlight must work
* Data (4G/WiFi) must work
* I need battery life to maintain a stable level; I can't be carrying powerbanks or stuff like that.
* Responsive; The phone is showing its age but it must be able to keep doing simple tasks as fluid as it can
What do you recommend?
Thanks
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7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead

McAwesomePL said:
Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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I'm currently on 7.1.2. Just wanna ask a few questions to know if it's stable enough for me to get into.
1) I play lotta PUBG. How is gaming performance on this device?
2) How is the audio performance? I use ViperFX.
3) What's the camera quality like?

adityabanerjee1303 said:
I'm currently on 7.1.2. Just wanna ask a few questions to know if it's stable enough for me to get into.
1) I play lotta PUBG. How is gaming performance on this device?
2) How is the audio performance? I use ViperFX.
3) What's the camera quality like?
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1. Don't play PUBG, so I can't really tell, but it should be similar to how it performs on your current ROM I believe.
2. I don't use AudioFX, but both wired and BT audio seems to work just as well as on Oreo (...which for me was a better experience than the one on Nougat).
3. Decent, again, nothing out of the ordinary, just your usual 4 y/o phone custom ROM experience. It's not buggy though, if that's what you're asking

philash_flash said:
A new phone.
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You might want to invest either in new glasses or english reading lessons because you seem not to be able to read.

McAwesomePL said:
Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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Great post. Ill check out the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/rom-posp-v2-0-beta-t3830896

McAwesomePL said:
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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I just read thru all 79 pages of that ROM; That ROM is alpha at best.
Hotspot not working
GPS is glitchy
Lag
etc.
I need something stable.

riahc3 said:
I just read thru all 79 pages of that ROM; That ROM is alpha at best.
Hotspot not working
GPS is glitchy
Lag
etc.
I need something stable.
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Eh. If you didn't know, this ROM's been the first Pie ROM for bacon. What you've read through is a discussion about it since its very beginning, while the stable version has been released much later. I'm happy with what I'm using - no lags for me, and the GPS works fine. Your call though.
Also, there's no reason to be rude to people in the POSP thread just because some things don't work in your case. Wi-Fi hotspot is pretty much the only noticeable bug at this moment (it does work, just under specific conditions), while for me and the vast majority of people everything else works well. Not to mention that calling others kids is certainly not a mature behavior. Developers are building ROMs when they're free, for free, and sharing them with others, even though it's hard work. Their hard work. It's not a service you pay for that magically allows you to demand whatever you want - if you don't like it, don't use it and go make your own ROM instead of bashing everyone around since you seem to know better.

Honestly it's a bit of a stretch to be asking for a fully featured and stable version of Pie on this phone this early anyway. I'd suggest you just stick to Oreo for the time being anyway. Google changed a bunch of **** for Pie for no good reason and made the whole experience slower, less intuitive and more Apple-like. You missed out on Oreo, so just install a nightly official build of LineageOS 15 or something and enjoy the customised and optimised experience of a mature operating system.

yesiateyoursheep said:
Honestly it's a bit of a stretch to be asking for a fully featured and stable version of Pie on this phone this early anyway. I'd suggest you just stick to Oreo for the time being anyway. Google changed a bunch of **** for Pie for no good reason and made the whole experience slower, less intuitive and more Apple-like. You missed out on Oreo, so just install a nightly official build of LineageOS 15 or something and enjoy the customised and optimised experience of a mature operating system.
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I neved asked for Pie. At best, you can understand I asked for Oreo (which would have been nice but).

Official LineageOS 15.1
I've been using forked LineageOS 15.1 from microg, with microg built-in, and it's running smooth, no complaints at all. The official version should be better than the Forked version isn't it?

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Still waiting for a true ROM that is made for daily, with no worries about bugs or anything.

Guys here don't seem to understand the meaning of the term "stable" - just because something is free, that doesn't mean i can call my beta stable.
I am currently on Official LOS 15.1 - and it is a pain in the ass to use my phone at the moment. It lags on every user interaction, and if i use it too fast , it restarts. Also BT is buggy, sometimes it just disconnects and doesn't work anymore, even if i restart my phone, i must remove the device from the list and reconnect - which is, in case of connecting to alexa, a doubled pain in the ass because the alexa app laggs ultra hard.
@riahc3 On which Rom are you currently? Did you find a stable before 7.1? From what i recall, i didn't find a stable 6 with working quick charge - which is a requirement, i do not have the time to load my phone about 5 hours in the middle of the day, what i found i must do with each rom i tested.

arrows 9.0 + franco kernel r56 + google camera
seems stable. battery life moderate.

se7enlyn said:
arrows 9.0 + franco kernel r56 + google camera
seems stable. battery life moderate.
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which google camera version?

Still waiting.

Probably tried 15+ different ROMs over the years of owning my OPO.
Only ROMs I've ever used that worked without issue are Sultanxda's, but because he's just one guy he can't devote a lot of time to it, so it's still being maintained on 7.1.2. I've been using Sultan's ROMs for probably 2+ years now and forgot what a dumpster fire the rest of the ROM community is, and made the mistake of trying the official Lineage 16.0 build. The fact that the ONLY downloads available were a weeks worth of nightly builds should've set off alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it and went ahead because I wanted to try 9.0. Huge mistake. Wifi takes TEN minutes to connect or reconnect to a network, and mobile data only works for the first 5 minutes after booting before dying, forcing you to hard reset every 5 minutes to use mobile data.
At this point, I'm going back to Sultan's ROMs and never looking back. Whenever he decides to drop his OPO project, that'll be the same day I drop my OPO. Actually have a work phone as well that's an iPhone 8 and I wish those things supported third party ROMs, because that turd just gets slower and buggier each passing month, dropped calls, no data, broken wifi, broken video chat, it's like paying a premium to get a hobby phone. I hope to god Microsoft wakes up and comes back to the mobile space, it seems they're the only company on the planet that knows how to put out an OS that actually works, and can properly maintain it with regular updates. In the end I'll probably end up getting a Pixel 2 or something if I want a usable phone.

jm206 said:
Probably tried 15+ different ROMs over the years of owning my OPO
Only ROMs I've ever used that worked without issue are Sultanxda's, but because he's just one guy he can't devote a lot of time to it, so it's still being maintained on 7.1.2. I've been using Sultan's ROMs for probably 2+ years now and forgot what a dumpster fire the rest of the ROM community is, and made the mistake of trying the official Lineage 16.0 build. The fact that the ONLY downloads available were a weeks worth of nightly builds should've set off alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it and went ahead because I wanted to try 9.0. Huge mistake. Wifi takes TEN minutes to connect or reconnect to a network, and mobile data only works for the first 5 minutes after booting before dying, forcing you to hard reset every 5 minutes to use mobile data.
At this point, I'm going back to Sultan's ROMs and never looking back. Whenever he decides to drop his OPO project, that'll be the same day I drop my OPO. Actually have a work phone as well that's an iPhone 8 and I wish those things supported third party ROMs, because that turd just gets slower and buggier each passing month, dropped calls, no data, broken wifi, broken video chat, it's like paying a premium to get a hobby phone. I hope to god Microsoft wakes up and comes back to the mobile space, it seems they're the only company on the planet that knows how to put out an OS that actually works, and can properly maintain it with regular updates. In the end I'll probably end up getting a Pixel 2 or something if I want a usable phone.
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Please do not take it too much to myself, which I will write now.
From your post I conclude that you have excessive requirements for ROMs, which are actually made by amateurs-hobbyists.
Despite the seemingly correct theses, in my opinion your entry is of no value because you were not active in this forum in reporting bugs and patches to the ROM.

Are There Any Roms Demonstrably Better Than Oxygen OS?

So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?

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So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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As far as ROMS where everything is as good as OOS, no. Each custom ROM has certain things that aren't as good. For example most of them have sound that is lower and doesn't sound as good as OOS. OmniROM is the only ROM where they ported over the Atmos from OOS so the sound is the same but the Fingerprint reader doesn't work too well. Havoc has a bug where if you wanna use any gestures other than the stock ones there will be no back gesture as it gets totally disabled. Bliss has a bug where if you want to use Google Dialer and Contacts you'll get com.android.phone force closes. crDroid or anything based on Lineage has random freezes when watching videos. Most of these ROMS are one or two bug fixes away from being as good as OOS but they usually never get those bugs fixed, then a new version of Android comes out and the process starts all over again. If you want stability you're better off staying with OOS. The one or two ROMS that have appeared to be the most stable and didn't have any bugs were Paranoid Android and AOSPA but those are more vanilla and have little to no customization options. Once the standby battery drain on CarbonROM gets fixed that will be close, as the only thing left would be porting over the Atmos like Omni which seems to be the key to having the same level of sound as on OOS.

ajsmsg78 said:
As far as ROMS where everything is as good as OOS, no. Each custom ROM has certain things that aren't as good. For example most of them have sound that is lower and doesn't sound as good as OOS. OmniROM is the only ROM where they ported over the Atmos from OOS so the sound is the same but the Fingerprint reader doesn't work too well. Havoc has a bug where if you wanna use any gestures other than the stock ones there will be no back gesture as it gets totally disabled. Bliss has a bug where if you want to use Google Dialer and Contacts you'll get com.android.phone force closes. crDroid or anything based on Lineage has random freezes when watching videos. Most of these ROMS are one or two bug fixes away from being as good as OOS but they usually never get those bugs fixed, then a new version of Android comes out and the process starts all over again. If you want stability you're better off staying with OOS. The one or two ROMS that have appeared to be the most stable and didn't have any bugs were Paranoid Android and AOSPA but those are more vanilla and have little to no customization options. Once the standby battery drain on CarbonROM gets fixed that will be close, as the only thing left would be porting over the Atmos like Omni which seems to be the key to having the same level of sound as on OOS.
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I would like to clarify a few things.
We have Dolby Atmos module which can be used to increase the volume to oos level. Only downside s that the minimum volume is too high and hence you need to disable it. That is why custom roms don't implement the module.
As far as video freezing on cr or lineage based goes, well it is due to the latest security patch. The devs are looking into it but i think google will roll out a fix in may.
PA is extremely stable but offers lesser customization. So if you don't care for face-unlock, you can use treskmod based on PA. It is equally stable. But as face-unlock is closed source, there only a chance that face-unlock will ever come to treskmod. Otherwise everythink is like PA+pixel features.
Furthermore, evox is also a great rom which you can use. It doesn't have any of the above bugs. Another option is AOSiP
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Isadorian said:
So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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I am not a dev but use custom roms. The major advantage of a custom rom is customization over OOS. Also they at a faster rate and are closer to google implementation. The devs are also trying hard to make the rom perfect. If rooted, you can also use it to maximum. Also, there is a great chance that a feature you want will be implemented into the rom if you ask the dev.

Poco F1 Custom Roms

Hello guys,
we already are noticing how xiaomi is starting to lift her hand off our beloved Poco F1 to make us change device. but as users of this device,
we know this is very hard for most of us mostly because of budget reasons, and this device still has a lot of potential with SD845.
to counter xiaomi attempts, i am inviting you to write down suggestions of custom roms that you have used with some details like
how often the rom is getting updates, is it stable, does the devs keep fixing major bugs with updates, performance, battery life, bloatwares,
and why not suggest TWRP versions and kernels you are using.
i hope this thread gets some attention and let's keep using our beloved Poco F1.
peace.

I don't care about Xiaomi's MIUI updates anymore because custom roms are better, If you are new to custom roms I suggest you start with Lineage 17 as it is stable and smooth and It gets updates almost every month or less, If you want customizations you can try Pixel Experience Plus.
I've been using Awaken os based on Android 11 for three days now and I can recommend it also even though it's not fully stable.

Lineage is a solid choice for sure , arrow aint bad either ( very curious about the 11 build ) but for now i stick with CRdroid.
There are some very small minor issues there but compared to the mess of miui it's a laugh..

Honestly, they're all pretty lousy.
No offence to any Poco Devs here, we all know they do it for free, but just look at all the posts in Lineage OS recently - more and more bugs keep popping up.
They *are* weeklies, though - but we have no stable custom ROM's it seems because everyone just copies LOS DT and Devs don't have time to run CTS or VTS on their builds to make sure things actually work.
I think the key is to find a ROM that is being hand developed by someone who actually *uses* the ROM as their daily. Because right now it just seems like these are all blind builds or have only basic testing, e.g. "cool it boots, ready for release, bugs = you tell me" and they can't tackle all bugs because they're too busy or whatever.
Again, no disrespect intended - it just seems like many devs build ROM's for personal fun. And really I don't blame them, fixing stuff is generally way more boring than addin X trendy feature, right? [emoji14]
With that said, if you don't mind a pure AOSP experience with minimal mods, I've started work on an Android 11 GSI which I will be using *personally* and I intend to slowly add features over time. I will provide a custom modified vendor if I have to, to fix any GSI weirdness (despite that not being the direction Phh likes to go, Poco does some weird stuff of vendor last I checked which makes GSI's imperfect - but it's hopefully all things that I can fix). Note though that Magisk on Android 11 GSI's is not currently possible, though you can toggle root on/off with sooti's latest Dev work. My ultimate goal though is to make a ROM where I no longer need root, I'm personally exhausted with the SafetyNet vs Magisk arms race.
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So far I started with Pixel Experience, than switched for a year and few months with Lineage 16. Wich was good.
Now, I'm using Evolution X and very happy with it. The last firmware update was last september, so I recommend it.

iam using havoc for quiet some time, its got call recording, its pretty stable, got some issues with bluetooth(tws) connection and some very minor bugs. Havoc is my recommended rom.
The only feature i miss from miui ports roms is the dual statusbar.

General LineageOS 20.0 Official (Bluejay / 6a)

LineageOS now has a changelog available for BlueJay: https://download.lineageos.org/bluejay/changes/
And although no downloads are listed at https://download.lineageos.org/bluejay you can download an official build here:
https://mirrorbits.lineageos.org/full/bluejay/20230103/lineage-20.0-20230103-nightly-bluejay-signed.zip
I have not tested the build as I am satisfied with GrapheneOS and don't want to go on an adventure.

thank you
installation steps?

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installation steps?
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Probably very similar to other Pixel devices.
You can find flashing instructions on LineageOS' downloads page for each device.

I thought they always included the boot image with the downloads?

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installation steps?
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Install LineageOS on bluejay | LineageOS Wiki
lineage.youd.dev

I can try this in a bit - what Gapps package would work - thoughts?

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I can try this in a bit - what Gapps package would work - thoughts?
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Codefire - Downloading /jdcteam/javelinanddart/gapps/MindTheGapps-13.0.0-arm64-20221025_100653.zip

Okay got this up and running. Here's the link I used for everything:
https://lineage.youd.dev/340458/41/devices/bluejay/install
This page has all the download links on it - I used the vendor_boot - add custom recovery method. Note - in fastboot I did add the vendor_boot to both slots, and then booted into the custom recovery.
Here's the vendor_boot and other downloads (some you won't need):
Index of /pub/lineageos/full/bluejay/20230103
Keep that in mind. They also have a link to the recommended mindthegapps and everything here:
https://lineage.youd.dev/340458/41/gapps.html
Again - all the download links are on the first page but you kind of have to look for it...but they are there lol.
GL - I'll let you know how it goes. I'll say this - wifi download and install is pretty damn fast. I'm not rooting or anything just yet - just getting a sense of how this operates out of the box.

Quick update for those following - keep in mind the link I have above is to the lineage - dev version, so this isn't even a "nightly" much less a stable build.
That mentioned - it's was about 99% there for the features I use. The only bug I found was sometimes, unprovocted my screen would just turn on lol. I turned off all features in settings, notifications etc. including turning off the lock screen etc - but it'd still happened.
Even with this the battery life was really good for the way I use the device and standby was like .5%/hr. -that's about as good as I ever get.
Once they publish this out as a nightly it should be good for the masses.

Seeing as how official support seems to be delayed/in hiatus, I decided to give it a go and build it myself (successfully). I'm going to test it and try adding a tweak to allow OTA from a private source so that it can be updated without a computer later. Otherwise I'll be leaving it at stock so that the switchover (if the day comes) is easy.
In the past I've built unofficial lineage ROMs for the Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx, Pixel 2XL, and Oneplus 8 Pro. This seemed to go just as easily, so wish me luck in the build working . I'll be sure to share it if all goes well.

What are the benefits of this lineage build over stock? Been a while since rooting and really want to go back to it

Better battery - snappier performance - quicker wifi/download - less bloat and a few more features.
For me - everything is like 10-25% better on a rom (really any rom) over stock. The only issue you have to look out for - sometimes because a dev "cuts" out the bloat - you don't have some of the stock features you actually like lol. There's usually workarounds for that too but that's about it imo.
For me - stock battery is a good 24-26 hours, most rooms 32-38 hours for both usage and standby. It's that kind of thing.

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Better battery - snappier performance - quicker wifi/download - less bloat and a few more features.
For me - everything is like 10-25% better on a rom (really any rom) over stock. The only issue you have to look out for - sometimes because a dev "cuts" out the bloat - you don't have some of the stock features you actually like lol. There's usually workarounds for that too but that's about it imo.
For me - stock battery is a good 24-26 hours, most rooms 32-38 hours for both usage and standby. It's that kind of thing.
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What about camera & video quality? Is it really on par with stock?

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What about camera & video quality? Is it really on par with stock?
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I'm probably not the best guy to ask. Honestly - I kind of don't care that much lol - not my bag. Anything that takes a quick-crisp picture or video is good enough for me.
So - it's a low bar but it's good enough
That said, most roms I've ever been on can use the pixel camera - and there's a ton of mods out there if you are interested...most of those work when I've checked them out.

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What about camera & video quality? Is it really on par with stock?
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Just remembered - there was a self-reported poll (not scientifically the best) of like 100k camera folks - fans essentially - and the 6a was voted the "best" out there over iPhone, the Pixel 7 pro, etc. That was like 2 months ago.
Even given my concern above, devs cutting out bloat - I'd think you'd have the exact same experience.
So you should be good, especially at the 6a price point. GL

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Just remembered - there was a self-reported poll (not scientifically the best) of like 100k camera folks - fans essentially - and the 6a was voted the "best" out there over iPhone, the Pixel 7 pro, etc. That was like 2 months ago.
Even given my concern above, devs cutting out bloat - I'd think you'd have the exact same experience.
So you should be good, especially at the 6a price point. GL
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Thanks for the reply. I'm waiting for the official LOS support to comeback so I can flash it

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Thanks for the reply. I'm waiting for the official LOS support to comeback so I can flash it
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Just in case you wanted to know, the unofficial build I'm supporting is stock and the Google camera app works perfectly when you flash the google apps package. I'm leaving everything stock so that it's identical to what official would be (other than letting the updater work with unofficial updates as well).

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Just in case you wanted to know, the unofficial build I'm supporting is stock and the Google camera app works perfectly when you flash the google apps package. I'm leaving everything stock so that it's identical to what official would be (other than letting the updater work with unofficial updates as well).
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Noted! I'll give it a try then

https://download.lineageos.org/bluejay now seems to have nightly builds and instructions.
I'm thinking of giving it a try. This is my first pixel - to get future pixel firmware updates, would I just somehow flash the binary package as it comes it out? Or does the lineage updates include the updates from google?

im suggesting if can include weather on next update