So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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As far as ROMS where everything is as good as OOS, no. Each custom ROM has certain things that aren't as good. For example most of them have sound that is lower and doesn't sound as good as OOS. OmniROM is the only ROM where they ported over the Atmos from OOS so the sound is the same but the Fingerprint reader doesn't work too well. Havoc has a bug where if you wanna use any gestures other than the stock ones there will be no back gesture as it gets totally disabled. Bliss has a bug where if you want to use Google Dialer and Contacts you'll get com.android.phone force closes. crDroid or anything based on Lineage has random freezes when watching videos. Most of these ROMS are one or two bug fixes away from being as good as OOS but they usually never get those bugs fixed, then a new version of Android comes out and the process starts all over again. If you want stability you're better off staying with OOS. The one or two ROMS that have appeared to be the most stable and didn't have any bugs were Paranoid Android and AOSPA but those are more vanilla and have little to no customization options. Once the standby battery drain on CarbonROM gets fixed that will be close, as the only thing left would be porting over the Atmos like Omni which seems to be the key to having the same level of sound as on OOS.
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As far as ROMS where everything is as good as OOS, no. Each custom ROM has certain things that aren't as good. For example most of them have sound that is lower and doesn't sound as good as OOS. OmniROM is the only ROM where they ported over the Atmos from OOS so the sound is the same but the Fingerprint reader doesn't work too well. Havoc has a bug where if you wanna use any gestures other than the stock ones there will be no back gesture as it gets totally disabled. Bliss has a bug where if you want to use Google Dialer and Contacts you'll get com.android.phone force closes. crDroid or anything based on Lineage has random freezes when watching videos. Most of these ROMS are one or two bug fixes away from being as good as OOS but they usually never get those bugs fixed, then a new version of Android comes out and the process starts all over again. If you want stability you're better off staying with OOS. The one or two ROMS that have appeared to be the most stable and didn't have any bugs were Paranoid Android and AOSPA but those are more vanilla and have little to no customization options. Once the standby battery drain on CarbonROM gets fixed that will be close, as the only thing left would be porting over the Atmos like Omni which seems to be the key to having the same level of sound as on OOS.
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I would like to clarify a few things.
We have Dolby Atmos module which can be used to increase the volume to oos level. Only downside s that the minimum volume is too high and hence you need to disable it. That is why custom roms don't implement the module.
As far as video freezing on cr or lineage based goes, well it is due to the latest security patch. The devs are looking into it but i think google will roll out a fix in may.
PA is extremely stable but offers lesser customization. So if you don't care for face-unlock, you can use treskmod based on PA. It is equally stable. But as face-unlock is closed source, there only a chance that face-unlock will ever come to treskmod. Otherwise everythink is like PA+pixel features.
Furthermore, evox is also a great rom which you can use. It doesn't have any of the above bugs. Another option is AOSiP
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So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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I am not a dev but use custom roms. The major advantage of a custom rom is customization over OOS. Also they at a faster rate and are closer to google implementation. The devs are also trying hard to make the rom perfect. If rooted, you can also use it to maximum. Also, there is a great chance that a feature you want will be implemented into the rom if you ask the dev.
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Hello, I'm completely new to flashing on custom roms, but I recently purchased a Redmi Note 7 Pro with the full intent to flash on something better than the China MIUI rom.
However now that i'm finally allowed to unlock my bootloader, there are a lot more custom roms to choose from in the dev subforum for this phone, and I have absolutely no idea how to tell which one is right for me.
Originally I liked the sound of Oxygen OS for being almost entirely 'stock android' with a few good additions, but then became interested in LineageOS, which also seems to be largely stock android with some improvements, and the most well know community custom rom.
So I guess what I'm looking for is a clean "like-stock" rom with a good amount of customization so I can change things to my preference, but this being my first time ever flashing a custom rom, I would also appreciate stability and security.
Pretty much all of the roms ported in the dev subforum look like they're either modified versions of LineageOS, or based on AOSP.
Should I just play it safe and go with LineageOS, do the LineageOS based roms offer enough good improvements to try one of them instead, or should I look into one of the non-LineageOS AOSP roms?
Or if the "best option" is to try them for myself to see which one I like, is jumping between different roms easy to do, and will I lose any userdata doing so?
Some more info if it helps at all:
My previous phone was a Galaxy S4 running Android 5.0.1, so pretty much any custom rom will feel new and different to me.
Some of the things that bothered me about MIUI was the removal of the App folder/drawer and how notifications for things like emails seemed very delayed and arrived in annoying bursts.
I also disliked how the app vault was filled with crap, seemed pretty uncustomizable, and also can't be disabled in favor of wrap-around pages.
Any help with information on or deciding between custom roms is greatly appreciated!
Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Wow, I just properly read into crDroid, and it sounds like it's only got improvements and more customization options over LineageOS.
I was worried that because it was largely based on another custom rom, it might be less secure and stable or be based on an older version.
But they claim that stability and security are a main goal of theirs, and that they try to keep up with LineageOS's source.
crDroid sound perfect, thanks so much!
Hello guys,
we already are noticing how xiaomi is starting to lift her hand off our beloved Poco F1 to make us change device. but as users of this device,
we know this is very hard for most of us mostly because of budget reasons, and this device still has a lot of potential with SD845.
to counter xiaomi attempts, i am inviting you to write down suggestions of custom roms that you have used with some details like
how often the rom is getting updates, is it stable, does the devs keep fixing major bugs with updates, performance, battery life, bloatwares,
and why not suggest TWRP versions and kernels you are using.
i hope this thread gets some attention and let's keep using our beloved Poco F1.
peace.
I don't care about Xiaomi's MIUI updates anymore because custom roms are better, If you are new to custom roms I suggest you start with Lineage 17 as it is stable and smooth and It gets updates almost every month or less, If you want customizations you can try Pixel Experience Plus.
I've been using Awaken os based on Android 11 for three days now and I can recommend it also even though it's not fully stable.
Lineage is a solid choice for sure , arrow aint bad either ( very curious about the 11 build ) but for now i stick with CRdroid.
There are some very small minor issues there but compared to the mess of miui it's a laugh..
Honestly, they're all pretty lousy.
No offence to any Poco Devs here, we all know they do it for free, but just look at all the posts in Lineage OS recently - more and more bugs keep popping up.
They *are* weeklies, though - but we have no stable custom ROM's it seems because everyone just copies LOS DT and Devs don't have time to run CTS or VTS on their builds to make sure things actually work.
I think the key is to find a ROM that is being hand developed by someone who actually *uses* the ROM as their daily. Because right now it just seems like these are all blind builds or have only basic testing, e.g. "cool it boots, ready for release, bugs = you tell me" and they can't tackle all bugs because they're too busy or whatever.
Again, no disrespect intended - it just seems like many devs build ROM's for personal fun. And really I don't blame them, fixing stuff is generally way more boring than addin X trendy feature, right? [emoji14]
With that said, if you don't mind a pure AOSP experience with minimal mods, I've started work on an Android 11 GSI which I will be using *personally* and I intend to slowly add features over time. I will provide a custom modified vendor if I have to, to fix any GSI weirdness (despite that not being the direction Phh likes to go, Poco does some weird stuff of vendor last I checked which makes GSI's imperfect - but it's hopefully all things that I can fix). Note though that Magisk on Android 11 GSI's is not currently possible, though you can toggle root on/off with sooti's latest Dev work. My ultimate goal though is to make a ROM where I no longer need root, I'm personally exhausted with the SafetyNet vs Magisk arms race.
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So far I started with Pixel Experience, than switched for a year and few months with Lineage 16. Wich was good.
Now, I'm using Evolution X and very happy with it. The last firmware update was last september, so I recommend it.
iam using havoc for quiet some time, its got call recording, its pretty stable, got some issues with bluetooth(tws) connection and some very minor bugs. Havoc is my recommended rom.
The only feature i miss from miui ports roms is the dual statusbar.
Hello,
I've decided to try out a custom ROM, not because I hate OxygenOS11 but just looking for a new experience. Once I got the phone I upgraded immediately to Android 11 but then I saw (and still see) a lot of people swearing by OxygenOS Android 10. Is it worth it to downgrade? What would I lose from V11?
And my main question is for those who tried them, which custom ROM is best for you and why?
qp2988 said:
Hello,
I've decided to try out a custom ROM, not because I hate OxygenOS11 but just looking for a new experience. Once I got the phone I upgraded immediately to Android 11 but then I saw (and still see) a lot of people swearing by OxygenOS Android 10. Is it worth it to downgrade? What would I lose from V11?
And my main question is for those who tried them, which custom ROM is best for you and why?
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I've used Oxygen OS for like 6 months after I got the Nord. Then I moved to Pixel Experience Plus based on A11. Worked fine, but it is discontinued now and they have started with A12. Used it for a while, everything worked fine, some minor bluetooth issues (not sure why), small bugs which you won't notice initially and they aren't a deal breaker.
Now I've switched to Proton KnockOff ROM, everything is fine. Minor UI jitters while locking sometimes. No major bugs faced so far. Also tried Project Radiant Unofficial Build (works fine though).
My final thoughts:
If you want clean pixel phone feel and no customization then Pixel Experience A12 is the way to go.
Plus, this ROM has OTA updates enabled.
If you want some customization and overall good performance and you don't mind unofficial builds then Project Radiant is worth trying.
If you want good performance and tons of customization then I'd say Proton will be a good idea.
NOTE: All the ROMs above are A12 based, I used them without root and the same Kernel it came shipped with.
Try different GCams because some of them lag and even crash many a times, I'd say go with BSG GCam or Urnyx05.
Thank you so much for your comprehensive response, much appreciated. I'll also post here my own findings after testing.
qp2988 said:
Thank you so much for your comprehensive response, much appreciated. I'll also post here my own findings after testing.
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Did u tried? I'm interested at your experience
I wonder what is the best room for performance in OP9 even optimization?
There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.
Stock rom
Debloated OOS and some magisk mod tweaks.
I've tested custom rom my choice is Syberia
Stock or AOSPA imo
OOS
*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.
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*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.
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thank you!
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There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.
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Exactly this. They're all pretty great.
For A12, any ROM with OOSCAM and a current security update is amazing.
For A13, ElytraOS is very impressive, and the maintainer is very active in what feedback is given. StagOS As well, but that maintainer is/was supporting A12 and 13 while ElytraOS came in on A13, so has just had more time to focus just on it. Both are great.
And now with Syberia (one of my favorite OP6 roms) on the scene, It seems you literally can't pick incorrectly, all are winners.
All my issues have always come from incorrect OOS update prior to flashing a ROM (see: PEBKAC), Android and/or its various changes itself effecting the Apps I use itself or an underlining bug that's from lineage (that all start with as a base, at least on every OP devices I've run with an android OS) that's out of the maintainers control.
For now, I'm back on Pixel Experience A12, but will return to A13 ROMs once it matures a little further and apps stabilize on it (preferably one with Google AI call screening enabled by default.)
I'd also take note of the few ROMs that offer vanilla builds that allow you to manage your own exposure to GApps, or none at all (ex: CRDroid)
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OOS
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OOS13 is so damn beautiful but hate the idea of trying to root, remove bloat/spyware, optimize it all while in Beta.
I need to try it at least once for a week or so.
nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.
jmadiaga said:
nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.
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im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.
applyscience said:
im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.
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ikr
but i can only spek fom my experience.
Hello there people of XDA, below, I've compiled a list of the best custom roms with GAPPS from my experience of flashing roms the past few months. If there are any roms I've missed, let me know. I probably won't try them all though. As for what rom I'm currently using, it would be stock android. The custom roms for this phone still seem like they're all in Alpha stage. Yes, the customization is great, but I can get similar options using root. It's hard for me to flash roms over and over for a update. I would come back only when the roms have all matured, and when an update can be done over OTA. (EvolutionX has OTA, the other roms, I'm not so sure.)
RisingOS: It's basically the only rom so far that I've found that actually works with Google Pay, but currently it seems like it's still in alpha or beta stage due to the amount of bugs so far. But it runs fine, and the battery drain isn't too much. I will revisit this rom in the future, when the bugs get ironed out.
EvolutionX: I mean, it's stable... but battery life takes a huge hit. I don't know if the kernel is overclocked or what is going on, but the phone gets warm (99-105F) with light usage (30mins on youtube). Would only recommend if you're a gamer and want the best FPS out of games, since you seem to get better sustained performance with this rom.
Project Elixir: It's basically EvolutionX, but with less customization features, and the battery drain isn't high. I would daily drive this rom, if Google Pay worked. But like EvolutionX, I can set it, but it'll have me re-add my card over and over. (Revisiting this Rom reveals that apps like Facebook and Instagram has issues 6/24/23)
DerpFest Tango: This rom is basically stock android with some tweaks. I joined the Telegram and it seemed dead, but it's a decent rom. It seems like battery life is similar to stock, and the phone runs fine. Google Pay seems broken for me though.
StagOS: Has a lot of customization options, and not a large userbase. Similar to DerpFest Tango, the Telegram seems dead, and Google Pay is broken for me.
Not on your list, I've been pretty happy with LineageOS since it went Official. OTA works, but can be slow to install.
Far from perfect, but suits my (minimalist) needs with NeoLauncher.
Which ROM has the unlimited google photos?
Used all the above roms and they are all pretty solid. My daily driver and go-to if I don't like how a certain rom works I the Velocity Rom-Maxium Velocity kernel. He was on xda up till about 6 months ago but now he's on telegram.
Good features but no fluff - speedy as hell - battery standby is great and no heat to speak of. Comes preloaded with root so you just download magisk and that's it. Really good rom.
You should try out LineageOS and crDroid. Those 2 roms are the best ones I've tried so far. As for Gpay/Google Wallet, I got it working with most of the custom roms I've tried. You just have to use "safetynet v2.3.1-MOD_3.0."
LineageOS doesn't come with GAPPS but it includes instructions on how to flash it.
The unofficial build of risingOS 1.0 ran great for me, but when trying to switch to the official version, it wouldn't flash the product partition.
Generally, I carry 2 phones. One with GAPPS as some stuff requires it, and one without (the phone I use the most). Pixel has gapps, oneplus 8t has microG. Overall, any rom I'd recommend on the 6a, its either rising or lineageOS. If you want customization, go crDroid
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Which ROM has the unlimited google photos?
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Most roms have it baked in. Project Elixir (enabled by default), Evolution X, and RisingOS. As for the other two, I used them for a week and I didn't see a toggle.
TechIngest said:
Most roms have it baked in. Project Elixir (enabled by default), Evolution X, and RisingOS. As for the other two, I used them for a week and I didn't see a toggle.
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Its also not very hard to add it to a rom. There's a Magisk Plugin for it