I have a LG Stylo 4 sitting around accumulating dust. My good friend just broke his S7 and cannot afford to get a new phone at the moment. I want to try to help him out but im not sure if this device will work on Total wireless. I know Total wireless uses Verizon towers and also i know this device doesn't work on Verizon. What I don't know if is this phone doesn't work on Verizon due to band support or Verizon system not allowing the phone to be used because it is a 'non-certified Verizon device'.
The spec state the device has these bands.
- 4G LTE
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 38, 41, 66, 71
-4G (HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-3G / 4G (HSPA / UMTS / HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
850, 900, 1800, 1900
And total wireless states it uses these bands
- 3G : 800 MHz ESMR, Band 10
-4G : 1900 MHz PCS Band 1, 1900 MHz PCS Band 2 (LTE).
So i see it has LTE support but for 3G there is no support. Seeing this make me think it would possibly work but at the same time not. I say that because im using my Oneplus 6T on version and just get not 3G service. If anyone has an answer that would be great. :laugh:
clapper66 said:
I have a LG Stylo 4 sitting around accumulating dust. My good friend just broke his S7 and cannot afford to get a new phone at the moment. I want to try to help him out but im not sure if this device will work on Total wireless. I know Total wireless uses Verizon towers and also i know this device doesn't work on Verizon. What I don't know if is this phone doesn't work on Verizon due to band support or Verizon system not allowing the phone to be used because it is a 'non-certified Verizon device'.
The spec state the device has these bands.
- 4G LTE
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 38, 41, 66, 71
-4G (HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-3G / 4G (HSPA / UMTS / HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
850, 900, 1800, 1900
And total wireless states it uses these bands
- 3G : 800 MHz ESMR, Band 10
-4G : 1900 MHz PCS Band 1, 1900 MHz PCS Band 2 (LTE).
So i see it has LTE support but for 3G there is no support. Seeing this make me think it would possibly work but at the same time not. I say that because im using my Oneplus 6T on version and just get not 3G service. If anyone has an answer that would be great. [emoji23]
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T-mobile devices can be used on Straight Talk with a Straight Talk SIM kit that is intended for use on T-Mobile and AT&T devices. Straight Talk is a division of the TracFone network and uses Verizon towers. Total Wireless is also a division of TracFone so the same should be true for it as well.
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Hello,
So I have had the OnePlus one for just over 3 months now, and I'm currently running 100% stock OxygenOS (even thought that doesn't change the outcome of the question)..
Here in Australia we like to make things so much more confusing than they actually are, and this is truly the case when it comes to mobile phone network names. We currently have 2G, NextG, 3G, "4G" (HSPDA), 4G LTE, 4GX LTE, 4G Plus LTE, 4G+ LTE, and this makes things incredibly confusing when trying to work out if your phone is compatible with a service plan. Currently, I am with "Amaysim", who offered "4G" (HSPDA) plans only, until 3-ish weeks ago when they changed all their plans to 4G. I have already upgraded my line to 4G (free of charge), but Amaysim uses Optus' cell towers. Optus offers 2G, 3G, 4G (HSPDA), 4G LTE and 4G Plus LTE, my phone is working on everything but the latter two (as I don't get the chance to see if they are working till the 1st of May).
Now that we have the backstory out of the way, my question is, will my phone work with the 4G Plus network. From Optus' site:
OPTUS 4G PLUS NETWORK SPECTRUM FREQUENCY COMPATIBILITY
The frequencies we use on our 4G plus network to deliver superfast 4G include LTE 700MHz, LTE 1800MHz, 2100MHz, 2300MHz, and 2600MHz. Depending on your device compatibility, you can access some, or all, of the 4G Plus network. We're using the 700MHz spectrum to expand our network nationally, so If you want to future-proof your device, choose one with the "4G in more places" symbol to access our 4G Plus network wherever it expands. You'll be able to enjoy faster downloads and Internet browsing in loads of new places.
So while I will have LTE as the OnePlus One Supports LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 7(2600), 17(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), Optus advertises elsewhere; If your device supports 700MHz/Band 28 – it’s a 4G Plus device.. So while the OnePlus One does support 700mhz, Optus says it's band 28, while on the OPO 700mhz is band 17..
TL;DR: My network advertises that their "4G Plus" is on the 700mhz/band 28 frequency, but the OPO supports 700mhz/band 17 frequency. Is this the same thing, but because of North America to Australia differences or whatever it's different?
I checked the Wikipedia article for the technical specifications of the different bands. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
Band 28 uses wider spectrum range for transmitting data. Band 17 uplink is from 704 to 716 MHz and downlink is 734 to 746 MHz, whereas band 28 is 703 to 748 and 758 to 803 respectively. Band 28 has wider range of channel bandwidths (3, 5, 10, 15, 20 versus 5, 10). Duplex spacing is also different (30 MHz on Band 17, 55 on Band 28).
In theory my conclusion is that it will not work.
Someguyfromhell said:
I checked the Wikipedia article for the technical specifications of the different bands. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
Band 28 uses wider spectrum range for transmitting data. Band 17 uplink is from 704 to 716 MHz and downlink is 734 to 746 MHz, whereas band 28 is 703 to 748 and 758 to 803 respectively. Band 28 has wider range of channel bandwidths (3, 5, 10, 15, 20 versus 5, 10). Duplex spacing is also different (30 MHz on Band 17, 55 on Band 28).
In theory my conclusion is that it will not work.
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Hmmm alrighty. Cheers, I guess if I decide that I really do need 4G "Plus" that I will unlock band 28 using the band unlocker guide.
Thanks!
Does anyone know if the new 2015 Moto G will support simultaneous voice and data when used in the US on Verizon?
bdr9 said:
Does anyone know if the new 2015 Moto G will support simultaneous voice and data when used in the US on Verizon?
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From the specs listed on the Motorola site, it doesn't look like it'll be on Verizon:
Moto G - Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
It states Sprint, US Cellular, and Virgin Mobile.
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From the specs listed on the Motorola site, it doesn't look like it'll be on Verizon:
Moto G - Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
It states Sprint, US Cellular, and Virgin Mobile.
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This sucks!!!! Sometimes I wish Verizon would just take away my UDP so I could leave!
JulesJam said:
This sucks!!!! Sometimes I wish Verizon would just take away my UDP so I could leave!
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Yeah, the gen 1 was sold by Verizon, 'course, it was locked up tight and you couldn't put a recovery on it, to my knowledge.
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alfick3 said:
Yeah, the gen 1 was sold by Verizon, 'course, it was locked up tight and you couldn't put a recovery on it, to my knowledge.
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Once it started shipping with 4.4.4, then you couldn't unlock the bootloader any more.
Hello folks. First of all I would like to apologize if I am posting in the wrong forum. I have searched for almost a week now for an hour daily, and cannot find a definitive answer. WILL MY PHONE WORK ON T-MOBILE IN THE UNITED STATES? Seems like a straightforward question, but if you read on, you will understand the source of my confusion!
I am quite confused and somewhat concerned about the issue of Band 12. Does the Canadian version of the Moto G have band 12 or not. My reason for this concern is that I am traveling to Florida (from Canada) for Christmas, and after some reading I have concerns about whether or not my phone will work. I subscribe to Roam Mobility which uses T-mobile when in the U.S. The Motorola website indicates that the U.S. version of the Moto G 2015 DOES NOT use band 12 (disabled by T-Mobile recommendation), while the Canadian version DOES. But I have also read somewhere online that the Canadian version DOES NOT use band 12. I initially thought this was a good thing. But after some digging it appears that because I (may) have band 12, but do not have Voice Over LTE, I may not be able to make calls on the Moto G3. From what I am reading if band 12 is in use, it will not drop back to 2g/3g for phone calls. The calls won't work on T-mobile band 12 because it is used for VoLTE which the Moto G3 does not have. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if the Moto G3 Canadian version does or doesn't have band 12, and will the Moto G3 work on T-Mobile in the U.S. Thanks for any help you can offer. Gotta get this figured out!! Thanks all for any info you can offer.
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Hi,
I have reported this thread to be moved to the right Q & A section where you might be able to get help quickly.
From motorola.ca, LTE 12 is listed:
Bands (by model)
Moto G - GSM (XT1540)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700/AWS, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Moto G - ACG, Republic Wireless, Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Yes, as stated in my opening post Motorola shows band 12 on their website. But I don't thoroughly trust that, as band 12 previously showed on the US website as well, but has been removed. I have read online on another site that band 12 has been disabled on the Canadian version as well.
GC
Here is the network support I found from t-mobile support website. The following data means at least T-mobile S7/S7 edge can be used in china and even Asia countries. But it didn't say that it will support CDMA. Anyone has any data to show that sprint version will support the following bands? I have talked with sprint, they said that as long as we pay it in full price. The phone can be unlocked. If it can be unlocked, and it can support the following bands, then sprint version can be universal. But when I was chatting with sprint representative, The rep said that he doesn't know the specification.
Network
2G/3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: '850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band5(850), Band4(AWS), Band2(1900), Band1(2100)
LTE: B2,B4,B12
LTE Roaming: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B18/B19/B20
TDD 38,39,40,41
TDSCDMA : Band34, Band39
Att bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G – UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, and 41
I noticed Sprint is now selling the OnePlus 7 Pro, but also I see them on Ebay. I checked the LTE
Carrier 4G LTE Bands Main Frequencies
AT&T 2, 4, 5, 12, 14, 17, 29, 30, 66 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
Verizon Wireless 2, 4, 5, 13, 66 1900, 1700 f, 700 c
T-Mobile 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
Sprint 25, 26, 41 1900 g, 850, 2500
Europe 3, 7, 20 1800, 2600, 800
China, India 40, 41 2300, 2500
and they are the same as the OnePlus7 show. Can anyone tell me if I buy one off of Ebay, that it will work with Sprint?
Thanks for the help in advance.:good:
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I noticed Sprint is now selling the OnePlus 7 Pro, but also I see them on Ebay. I checked the LTE
Carrier 4G LTE Bands Main Frequencies
AT&T 2, 4, 5, 12, 14, 17, 29, 30, 66 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
Verizon Wireless 2, 4, 5, 13, 66 1900, 1700 f, 700 c
T-Mobile 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
Sprint 25, 26, 41 1900 g, 850, 2500
Europe 3, 7, 20 1800, 2600, 800
China, India 40, 41 2300, 2500
and they are the same as the OnePlus7 show. Can anyone tell me if I buy one off of Ebay, that it will work with Sprint?
Thanks for the help in advance.:good:
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No a unlocked version of the regular OnePlus 7 pro will not work with Sprint...the Sprint variant has 5G...the unlocked version does not...it's kind of stupid and complicated but the only reason Sprint has a OP7Pro is because it's 5G
Primal instinct said:
No a unlocked version of the regular OnePlus 7 pro will not work with Sprint...the Sprint variant has 5G...the unlocked version does not...it's kind of stupid and complicated but the only reason Sprint has a OP7Pro is because it's 5G
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Thank you for your help. Do you know what phone service it will work on?:good:
Anything but Sprint...I hear it will work So-So on Verizon. Internationally it should work with most carriers.
I currently have an unlocked model on Verizon and it seems to work ok. Had some initial issues with making and receiving calls along with sending texts that took Verizon about 3 days to resolve but outside of that it hasn't been too bad.
Thanks for all your help everyone. Looks like I won't be going with OnePlus 7 Pro.
i have a oneplus 7 pro 5g unlocked from oneplus, and its on sprint, no problems whats so ever, even had it when we went for a 2 day trip to cali, played with the 5g and its fast, but to be honest not that much faster than lte, imo, but still noticably faster non the less
lrmdaddy said:
i have a oneplus 7 pro 5g unlocked from oneplus, and its on sprint, no problems whats so ever, even had it when we went for a 2 day trip to cali, played with the 5g and its fast, but to be honest not that much faster than lte, imo, but still noticably faster non the less
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In most markets, at the moment, It would appear sprint is just calling their 2.5GHz, Band 41 LTE as 5G. They are doing some backend stuff with 40-60MHz channels and adjustable sub-carrier frequencies for 5G NR, however, at the moment you won't be seeing any huge improvements as theyre still using their 20 MHz channels with simultaneous connections and MIMO.
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In most markets, at the moment, It would appear sprint is just calling their 2.5GHz, Band 41 LTE as 5G. They are doing some backend stuff with 40-60MHz channels and adjustable sub-carrier frequencies for 5G NR, however, at the moment you won't be seeing any huge improvements as theyre still using their 20 MHz channels with simultaneous connections and MIMO.
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That is 100% correct.