I need some help from the developers on this forum. I live in Botswana and both carriers here are GSM 900, which is the most 'popular' European carriers frequency. Few days ago I ordered the LTE version Shield Tablet from USA. In the specifications that I found the North American version radio has support for other frequencies than European -
North America LTE: Bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 17 (1900, 1700, 850, 2600, 700)
HSPA+: Bands 1, 2, 4, 5 (2100, 1900, 1700, 850)
Outside-North America LTE: Bands 1*, 3, 7, 20 (2100/1800/2600/800)
HSPA+: Bands 1, 2, 5, 8 (2100/1900/850/900)
My question is if there is any chance for me to flash the European firmware to change the supported GSM carriers or this will be impossible?
ValSimDim said:
I need some help from the developers on this forum. I live in Botswana and both carriers here are GSM 900, which is the most 'popular' European carriers frequency. Few days ago I ordered the LTE version Shield Tablet from USA. In the specifications that I found the North American version radio has support for other frequencies than European -
North America LTE: Bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 17 (1900, 1700, 850, 2600, 700)
HSPA+: Bands 1, 2, 4, 5 (2100, 1900, 1700, 850)
Outside-North America LTE: Bands 1*, 3, 7, 20 (2100/1800/2600/800)
HSPA+: Bands 1, 2, 5, 8 (2100/1900/850/900)
My question is if there is any chance for me to flash the European firmware to change the supported GSM carriers or this will be impossible?
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Nope. No chance at all.
Does anyone know if the new 2015 Moto G will support simultaneous voice and data when used in the US on Verizon?
bdr9 said:
Does anyone know if the new 2015 Moto G will support simultaneous voice and data when used in the US on Verizon?
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From the specs listed on the Motorola site, it doesn't look like it'll be on Verizon:
Moto G - Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
It states Sprint, US Cellular, and Virgin Mobile.
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From the specs listed on the Motorola site, it doesn't look like it'll be on Verizon:
Moto G - Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
It states Sprint, US Cellular, and Virgin Mobile.
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This sucks!!!! Sometimes I wish Verizon would just take away my UDP so I could leave!
JulesJam said:
This sucks!!!! Sometimes I wish Verizon would just take away my UDP so I could leave!
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Yeah, the gen 1 was sold by Verizon, 'course, it was locked up tight and you couldn't put a recovery on it, to my knowledge.
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alfick3 said:
Yeah, the gen 1 was sold by Verizon, 'course, it was locked up tight and you couldn't put a recovery on it, to my knowledge.
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Once it started shipping with 4.4.4, then you couldn't unlock the bootloader any more.
Hello folks. First of all I would like to apologize if I am posting in the wrong forum. I have searched for almost a week now for an hour daily, and cannot find a definitive answer. WILL MY PHONE WORK ON T-MOBILE IN THE UNITED STATES? Seems like a straightforward question, but if you read on, you will understand the source of my confusion!
I am quite confused and somewhat concerned about the issue of Band 12. Does the Canadian version of the Moto G have band 12 or not. My reason for this concern is that I am traveling to Florida (from Canada) for Christmas, and after some reading I have concerns about whether or not my phone will work. I subscribe to Roam Mobility which uses T-mobile when in the U.S. The Motorola website indicates that the U.S. version of the Moto G 2015 DOES NOT use band 12 (disabled by T-Mobile recommendation), while the Canadian version DOES. But I have also read somewhere online that the Canadian version DOES NOT use band 12. I initially thought this was a good thing. But after some digging it appears that because I (may) have band 12, but do not have Voice Over LTE, I may not be able to make calls on the Moto G3. From what I am reading if band 12 is in use, it will not drop back to 2g/3g for phone calls. The calls won't work on T-mobile band 12 because it is used for VoLTE which the Moto G3 does not have. Can anyone confirm one way or the other if the Moto G3 Canadian version does or doesn't have band 12, and will the Moto G3 work on T-Mobile in the U.S. Thanks for any help you can offer. Gotta get this figured out!! Thanks all for any info you can offer.
GC
Hi,
I have reported this thread to be moved to the right Q & A section where you might be able to get help quickly.
From motorola.ca, LTE 12 is listed:
Bands (by model)
Moto G - GSM (XT1540)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700/AWS, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Moto G - ACG, Republic Wireless, Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Yes, as stated in my opening post Motorola shows band 12 on their website. But I don't thoroughly trust that, as band 12 previously showed on the US website as well, but has been removed. I have read online on another site that band 12 has been disabled on the Canadian version as well.
GC
I have a LG Stylo 4 sitting around accumulating dust. My good friend just broke his S7 and cannot afford to get a new phone at the moment. I want to try to help him out but im not sure if this device will work on Total wireless. I know Total wireless uses Verizon towers and also i know this device doesn't work on Verizon. What I don't know if is this phone doesn't work on Verizon due to band support or Verizon system not allowing the phone to be used because it is a 'non-certified Verizon device'.
The spec state the device has these bands.
- 4G LTE
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 38, 41, 66, 71
-4G (HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-3G / 4G (HSPA / UMTS / HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
850, 900, 1800, 1900
And total wireless states it uses these bands
- 3G : 800 MHz ESMR, Band 10
-4G : 1900 MHz PCS Band 1, 1900 MHz PCS Band 2 (LTE).
So i see it has LTE support but for 3G there is no support. Seeing this make me think it would possibly work but at the same time not. I say that because im using my Oneplus 6T on version and just get not 3G service. If anyone has an answer that would be great. :laugh:
clapper66 said:
I have a LG Stylo 4 sitting around accumulating dust. My good friend just broke his S7 and cannot afford to get a new phone at the moment. I want to try to help him out but im not sure if this device will work on Total wireless. I know Total wireless uses Verizon towers and also i know this device doesn't work on Verizon. What I don't know if is this phone doesn't work on Verizon due to band support or Verizon system not allowing the phone to be used because it is a 'non-certified Verizon device'.
The spec state the device has these bands.
- 4G LTE
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 38, 41, 66, 71
-4G (HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-3G / 4G (HSPA / UMTS / HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
850, 900, 1800, 1900
And total wireless states it uses these bands
- 3G : 800 MHz ESMR, Band 10
-4G : 1900 MHz PCS Band 1, 1900 MHz PCS Band 2 (LTE).
So i see it has LTE support but for 3G there is no support. Seeing this make me think it would possibly work but at the same time not. I say that because im using my Oneplus 6T on version and just get not 3G service. If anyone has an answer that would be great. [emoji23]
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T-mobile devices can be used on Straight Talk with a Straight Talk SIM kit that is intended for use on T-Mobile and AT&T devices. Straight Talk is a division of the TracFone network and uses Verizon towers. Total Wireless is also a division of TracFone so the same should be true for it as well.
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I rushed to buy this phone and bought it from Amazon where they said the phone shipped from Hong Kong. I am in the USA and use AT&T. Unfortunately I don't get any 5G signal, even though it's included in my service and the SIM card is 5G capable along with the IMEI being registered with AT&T. Besides 5G not working, the 4G coverage is super slow and I was thinking it was probably because the phone itself doesn't cover sufficient bands available in the USA because my last ROG Phone 2 was super fast in every way. Does anyone know how to unlock the bands for 5G or at least more 4G LTE bands please?!? I really can't stand these speeds
Your carrier would have to add them to the service. The bands you have are set by the hardware. You can't unlock them.
it is tied to your hardware. Youre screwed.. but please dont tell me you paid the premium on the phone just because its was on amazon? You could have gotten the same glorified tablet for 600-700 elsewhere
PhoneBots said:
it is tied to your hardware. Youre screwed.. but please dont tell me you paid the premium on the phone just because its was on amazon? You could have gotten the same glorified tablet for 600-700 elsewhere
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No I bought the cheaper version (not the ultimate) but with the 16GB RAM. I guess this will just be a project phone
I guess lesson learned! Just sell it then buy the global one.
seiferfury said:
I guess lesson learned! Just sell it then buy the global one.
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Who is going to buy it? Now that the proper local versions have released, the resale on a used foreign version is going to be about $200 (unless you pay shipping back to the origin country), meaning you are still around $800 short of buying the same phone.
harold741963 said:
I rushed to buy this phone and bought it from Amazon where they said the phone shipped from Hong Kong. I am in the USA and use AT&T. Unfortunately I don't get any 5G signal, even though it's included in my service and the SIM card is 5G capable along with the IMEI being registered with AT&T. Besides 5G not working, the 4G coverage is super slow and I was thinking it was probably because the phone itself doesn't cover sufficient bands available in the USA because my last ROG Phone 2 was super fast in every way. Does anyone know how to unlock the bands for 5G or at least more 4G LTE bands please?!? I really can't stand these speeds
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Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
bmayne81 said:
Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
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The global version from Asus has similar bands to the US version. The ones from Hong Kong are Tencent devices, which do not.
twistedumbrella said:
The global version from Asus has similar bands to the US version. The ones from Hong Kong are Tencent devices, which do not.
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How do we check what version it is?
harold741963 said:
How do we check what version it is?
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Check the box
It says it's an ASUS_I005DA, ZS673KS
bmayne81 said:
Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
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Interesting. I'm on AT&T with a 5g plan and sim, and I have yet to see the 5g icon. After spending some time with AT&T support verifying my IMEI etc, I still have had no luck and 5g is definitely active in my area. I have also purchased the phone direct from the US Asus store.
Do you mind sharing your APN settings?
BILLYB187 said:
Interesting. I'm on AT&T with a 5g plan and sim, and I have yet to see the 5g icon. After spending some time with AT&T support verifying my IMEI etc, I still have had no luck and 5g is definitely active in my area. I have also purchased the phone direct from the US Asus store.
Do you mind sharing your APN settings?
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Of course, the first image is the default APN settings and the second one is just an APN I added that I thought might've made a difference but didn't do anything
harold741963 said:
Of course, the first image is the default APN settings and the second one is just an APN I added that I thought might've made a difference but didn't do anything
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Thanks for these. I'm going to try adding the settings that you used under bearer and see if it changes anything on my phone. I won't be able to try until later but will let you know.
The samsung devices list GID under MVNO and 53FF under value but if I do that on my phone the APN vanishes.
Hopefully Bmayne responds with their setup too since I have the same device.
Billy, thanks for asking about the APN. I didn't think to look at that. Apparently it's a new APN I haven't seen before. Here it is.
harold741963 said:
It says it's an ASUS_I005DA, ZS673KS
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This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
olkitu said:
This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
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Thanks but what do I do with that data?
harold741963 said:
Thanks but what do I do with that data?
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To see combinations with 5G and 4G. 5G NSA require the device support anchor band (4G) and 5G together.
olkitu said:
This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
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They don't appear to have data for other models of the phone.
https://store.asus.com/us/item/202105AM210000001 lists the information under "Connectivity" for the US version of the phone.
https://rog.asus.com/uk/phones/rog-phone-5-model/spec lists versions A - H under "Network Standard" for the Europe versions.
You don't need to be rooted if you know where to look.
And since who doesn't love tables and charts, here is the Europe version breakdown of what every version supports and then what is remaining.
Code:
Universal:
FR1: DL up to 2.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
Gigabit LTE
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N28, N41, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 41, 42, 48)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Code:
A version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N40, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
B version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
C version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38 roaming only)
FDD-LTE (Bands 20, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
D version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N40, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
E version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
F version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
G version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38 roaming only)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
H version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
You can see your model in Settings -> About -> Regulator Information. The last letter should be version letter.