OnePlus One "4G Plus" Compatibility? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

TL;DR at the bottom..
Hello,
So I have had the OnePlus one for just over 3 months now, and I'm currently running 100% stock OxygenOS (even thought that doesn't change the outcome of the question)..
Here in Australia we like to make things so much more confusing than they actually are, and this is truly the case when it comes to mobile phone network names. We currently have 2G, NextG, 3G, "4G" (HSPDA), 4G LTE, 4GX LTE, 4G Plus LTE, 4G+ LTE, and this makes things incredibly confusing when trying to work out if your phone is compatible with a service plan. Currently, I am with "Amaysim", who offered "4G" (HSPDA) plans only, until 3-ish weeks ago when they changed all their plans to 4G. I have already upgraded my line to 4G (free of charge), but Amaysim uses Optus' cell towers. Optus offers 2G, 3G, 4G (HSPDA), 4G LTE and 4G Plus LTE, my phone is working on everything but the latter two (as I don't get the chance to see if they are working till the 1st of May).
Now that we have the backstory out of the way, my question is, will my phone work with the 4G Plus network. From Optus' site:
OPTUS 4G PLUS NETWORK SPECTRUM FREQUENCY COMPATIBILITY
The frequencies we use on our 4G plus network to deliver superfast 4G include LTE 700MHz, LTE 1800MHz, 2100MHz, 2300MHz, and 2600MHz. Depending on your device compatibility, you can access some, or all, of the 4G Plus network. We're using the 700MHz spectrum to expand our network nationally, so If you want to future-proof your device, choose one with the "4G in more places" symbol to access our 4G Plus network wherever it expands. You'll be able to enjoy faster downloads and Internet browsing in loads of new places.
So while I will have LTE as the OnePlus One Supports LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 7(2600), 17(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), Optus advertises elsewhere; If your device supports 700MHz/Band 28 – it’s a 4G Plus device.. So while the OnePlus One does support 700mhz, Optus says it's band 28, while on the OPO 700mhz is band 17..
TL;DR: My network advertises that their "4G Plus" is on the 700mhz/band 28 frequency, but the OPO supports 700mhz/band 17 frequency. Is this the same thing, but because of North America to Australia differences or whatever it's different?

I checked the Wikipedia article for the technical specifications of the different bands. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
Band 28 uses wider spectrum range for transmitting data. Band 17 uplink is from 704 to 716 MHz and downlink is 734 to 746 MHz, whereas band 28 is 703 to 748 and 758 to 803 respectively. Band 28 has wider range of channel bandwidths (3, 5, 10, 15, 20 versus 5, 10). Duplex spacing is also different (30 MHz on Band 17, 55 on Band 28).
In theory my conclusion is that it will not work.

Someguyfromhell said:
I checked the Wikipedia article for the technical specifications of the different bands. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
Band 28 uses wider spectrum range for transmitting data. Band 17 uplink is from 704 to 716 MHz and downlink is 734 to 746 MHz, whereas band 28 is 703 to 748 and 758 to 803 respectively. Band 28 has wider range of channel bandwidths (3, 5, 10, 15, 20 versus 5, 10). Duplex spacing is also different (30 MHz on Band 17, 55 on Band 28).
In theory my conclusion is that it will not work.
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Hmmm alrighty. Cheers, I guess if I decide that I really do need 4G "Plus" that I will unlock band 28 using the band unlocker guide.
Thanks!

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D6653 LTE on which carrier?

Hi,
I have a 6653 bought in India that I use here. I'm going to be in the US for a couple weeks later this month and wanted to know which carrier should I get a prepaid card for. Which carrier would support LTE on this device?
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golemagg said:
Hi,
I have a 6653 bought in India that I use here. I'm going to be in the US for a couple weeks later this month and wanted to know which carrier should I get a prepaid card for. Which carrier would support LTE on this device?
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airtel it support 2300 MHz LTE (Band 40)
I am asking about which carrier in the US will the 6653 work on with LTE.
Sorry if I wasn't clear in my original post.
I think you will be fine on 3G its still pretty fast. I get 15-16 Mbps Down and 2-3 Mbps up on 3G in Minneapolis. LTE is obviously faster for me 42 Mbps Up and 10 Mbps Down but I doubt you would really notice in regular use....
D6653: LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2300 (B40), LTE700 (B28)
It will work on T-Mobile and AT&T and the other smaller GSM carriers perfectly on 2G/3G but you will be missing bands for LTE.
T-Mobile: for LTE uses Band 2 (1900Mhz), Band 4 (1700/2100Mhz), Band 12 (700 Mhz)
AT&T: for LTE uses Band 17 (700Mhz), Band 5 (850Mhz), Band 2 (1900Mhz), Band 4 (1700/2100Mhz).
US Cellular: for LTE uses Band 5 (850Mhz), Band 12 (700 Mhz)
You only have Band 5 and there is no garuntee that the listed carriers will have that band deployed in the area you will be in.
Also remeber you can have different band numbers for the same Mhz spectrum because companies can use different parts of it.
Sources:
Worldwide LTE Band deployment, detailed by country and network:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
PDAdb is one of the best specs Site.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=6724&c=sony_xperia_z3_td-lte_d6653_sony_pegasus
GSMArena is the best for reviews
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-6539.php

LTE networks, bands and modes for various countries

Just thought i should post this since i noticed a lot of people complain about LTE not working for them on their Mate 7 even though their network operator has LTE. Well the truth is that unlike 3G, LTE has two different modes. One called TDD/TD(Time Division Duplex) and another FDD (Frequency division duplex). What this means is that if your LTE network is on say the FDD mode, and your mate 7 supports TDD, even if your frequency is supported it wont work for you due to the fact that your mode isn't supported on the device. This happened to me and i did a research and found the reason. Though there are some devices that support dual mode LTE (meaning they support both the TDD and FDD) but unfortunately the AM7 doesn't. Especially not the one that shipped to Nigeria. Mine supports TDD but unfortunately the only 4G network available for use on mobile in my country (Smile network) is on the FDD.
Also check this blog for your network operator to see the band, mode and frequency it uses. Hope am allowed to post links but if not moderators should feel free to remove it. Thanks
http://www.huaweimobileshop.com/blog/4g-lte-frequencies/
Your information are a bit off. The Mate 7 distributed in Nigeria supports both the FDD and TDD LTE. It just does not support the band that Smile is using which is FDD 800MHz or Band 20. It supports the TDD 2300MHz (Band 40) supported by both Spectranet and Swift Networks in Lagos. iPhone 6 supports both bands 20 and 40 in Nigeria. I think the people in Huawei in Nigeria miscalculated since only Swift and Spectranet are available in Lagos, the commercial capital of Nigeria.
These are the bands supported by the Mate 7 sold in Nigeria. FDD-LTE 1800 / 2100 / 2600 and TDD-LTE 1900 / 2300 / 2500 / 2600 (Bands 1, 3, 7, 38, 39, 40, 41).

Z3 model d6683: dual sim both 3g and 4g too?

Hi,
my name is Andrea and first of all thanks to give me your attention.
I'm in europe, italy, and was watching Z3 model d6683, it's for chinese market i guess, particular version of dual sim model. Now, i've two sim, the operator is "3 italia", and its signal is from 3g to 4g (if the area is covered by 2g signal only, i go in roaming signal, and can't surf etc). Now, i'm looking for a dual sim phone, and both sim have to get at least 3g signal at the same time. I'm not asking to surf with both sim at the same time, and i'm not asking "dual active", not interested if when i call, the other sim goes airplane mode. I'm asking if Sony Xperia Z3 model d6683 has two sim can get both at least in 3g mode during standby and always in general, cause i surf with one sim, i call with the other one, but this last don't want to go roaming all the time. Hope it's clear.
I can get this particular model because an Eshop has it online, but first need to know this problem.
Hope it can, and battery can last in any case.
Or if you know some other phones...
Thanks
None has it?
Help please, if you know this model can do what im looking for, or just another phone..
Thanks
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
niks20 said:
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
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So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
|Renovatio| said:
So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
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D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
The following is from xperiablog.net:
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
czguy said:
D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
Following is from xperiablog.net
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
|Renovatio| said:
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
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The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
czguy said:
The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
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Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
|Renovatio| said:
Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
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This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
czguy said:
This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
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Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
|Renovatio| said:
Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
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I do understand what you mean. It would have to be tested, however, there is a very good chance that it might since D6683 can simultaneously run on LTE bands using both SIMs which no Z3 Dual (D6633) can do. Most of the networks in Canada where I live use 3G for voice (same in Australia) and regular Z3 Dual is useless in such scenario, however, there is a chance it would work fine with D6683 which would become a dual SIM phone to go to except LTE bands.
Hope it can. Maybe will buy one to test it,directly.
Ok, Sony America and Sony China say it can't, as user niks wrote.
A Shop wrote on the sony z3 product crearly it can.
Will write to that Shop and to sony hong kong for the last time.
I don't know where to find my D6683 stock rom HELPPPP...!!!
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XT1541 FDD band compatibility

Does the XT1541 model supports the following network frequency range?
LTE (4G)
FDD band 3 (1700~1800 MHz)
FDD band 8 (900~960 MHz)
I have checked gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_(3rd_gen)-7247.php though I prefer to be 110 % sure.
longtimejones said:
Does the XT1541 model supports the following network frequency range?
LTE (4G)
FDD band 3 (1700~1800 MHz)
FDD band 8 (900~960 MHz)
I have checked gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_(3rd_gen)-7247.php though I prefer to be 110 % sure.
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The XT1541 supports LTE Bands 1, 3, 7, 8, and 20, according to multiple sources... all we are going to do is Google it just like you, but when all sources agree I don't think there is much chance it is wrong.
FrequencyCheck, GSM Arena, and Wikipedia all agree... If you are still in doubt, use https://willmyphonework.net/ and check your specific situation.

T-Mobile Stylo 4 on Total Wireless

I have a LG Stylo 4 sitting around accumulating dust. My good friend just broke his S7 and cannot afford to get a new phone at the moment. I want to try to help him out but im not sure if this device will work on Total wireless. I know Total wireless uses Verizon towers and also i know this device doesn't work on Verizon. What I don't know if is this phone doesn't work on Verizon due to band support or Verizon system not allowing the phone to be used because it is a 'non-certified Verizon device'.
The spec state the device has these bands.
- 4G LTE
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 38, 41, 66, 71
-4G (HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-3G / 4G (HSPA / UMTS / HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
850, 900, 1800, 1900
And total wireless states it uses these bands
- 3G : 800 MHz ESMR, Band 10
-4G : 1900 MHz PCS Band 1, 1900 MHz PCS Band 2 (LTE).
So i see it has LTE support but for 3G there is no support. Seeing this make me think it would possibly work but at the same time not. I say that because im using my Oneplus 6T on version and just get not 3G service. If anyone has an answer that would be great. :laugh:
clapper66 said:
I have a LG Stylo 4 sitting around accumulating dust. My good friend just broke his S7 and cannot afford to get a new phone at the moment. I want to try to help him out but im not sure if this device will work on Total wireless. I know Total wireless uses Verizon towers and also i know this device doesn't work on Verizon. What I don't know if is this phone doesn't work on Verizon due to band support or Verizon system not allowing the phone to be used because it is a 'non-certified Verizon device'.
The spec state the device has these bands.
- 4G LTE
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 38, 41, 66, 71
-4G (HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-3G / 4G (HSPA / UMTS / HSPA+)
1, 2, 4, 5
-2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
850, 900, 1800, 1900
And total wireless states it uses these bands
- 3G : 800 MHz ESMR, Band 10
-4G : 1900 MHz PCS Band 1, 1900 MHz PCS Band 2 (LTE).
So i see it has LTE support but for 3G there is no support. Seeing this make me think it would possibly work but at the same time not. I say that because im using my Oneplus 6T on version and just get not 3G service. If anyone has an answer that would be great. [emoji23]
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T-mobile devices can be used on Straight Talk with a Straight Talk SIM kit that is intended for use on T-Mobile and AT&T devices. Straight Talk is a division of the TracFone network and uses Verizon towers. Total Wireless is also a division of TracFone so the same should be true for it as well.
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