Hi,
my name is Andrea and first of all thanks to give me your attention.
I'm in europe, italy, and was watching Z3 model d6683, it's for chinese market i guess, particular version of dual sim model. Now, i've two sim, the operator is "3 italia", and its signal is from 3g to 4g (if the area is covered by 2g signal only, i go in roaming signal, and can't surf etc). Now, i'm looking for a dual sim phone, and both sim have to get at least 3g signal at the same time. I'm not asking to surf with both sim at the same time, and i'm not asking "dual active", not interested if when i call, the other sim goes airplane mode. I'm asking if Sony Xperia Z3 model d6683 has two sim can get both at least in 3g mode during standby and always in general, cause i surf with one sim, i call with the other one, but this last don't want to go roaming all the time. Hope it's clear.
I can get this particular model because an Eshop has it online, but first need to know this problem.
Hope it can, and battery can last in any case.
Or if you know some other phones...
Thanks
None has it?
Help please, if you know this model can do what im looking for, or just another phone..
Thanks
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
niks20 said:
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
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So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
|Renovatio| said:
So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
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D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
The following is from xperiablog.net:
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
czguy said:
D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
Following is from xperiablog.net
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
|Renovatio| said:
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
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The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
czguy said:
The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
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Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
|Renovatio| said:
Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
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This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
czguy said:
This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
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Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
|Renovatio| said:
Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
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I do understand what you mean. It would have to be tested, however, there is a very good chance that it might since D6683 can simultaneously run on LTE bands using both SIMs which no Z3 Dual (D6633) can do. Most of the networks in Canada where I live use 3G for voice (same in Australia) and regular Z3 Dual is useless in such scenario, however, there is a chance it would work fine with D6683 which would become a dual SIM phone to go to except LTE bands.
Hope it can. Maybe will buy one to test it,directly.
Ok, Sony America and Sony China say it can't, as user niks wrote.
A Shop wrote on the sony z3 product crearly it can.
Will write to that Shop and to sony hong kong for the last time.
I don't know where to find my D6683 stock rom HELPPPP...!!!
Sent from my D6683 using Tapatalk
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Is there a way to change the 3G Frequencies on the G1 to support AT&T 3G network?
Nope, thats a hardware issue.
I thought it was possibly a software issue. If not, is there a way to change out the chip or the incompatable part to make it compatible?
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I thought it was possibly a software issue. If not, is there a way to change out the chip or the incompatable part to make it compatible?
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Nope...not going to work for many reasons.
been answered plenty plenty of times.
From what I can figure a hardware change may not be required with the correct radio but we dont know the right radio without the right hardware. lol I know that makes no sense but it makes as much sense as anyone can make of it thus far. When its possible I assure you I will be among the first to do it. Although Im not ready to try installing a new radio without first acquiring a backup phone but if I do Im gonna give it a try and maybe have better luck than the last guy to try.
What about a mini-usb attachment that can receive atnt signals?
I am sure with that and the right software manipulation it could work.
sjbayer3 said:
What about a mini-usb attachment that can receive atnt signals?
I am sure with that and the right software manipulation it could work.
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While it sounds great in theory I doubt anyone would put forth the resources for such a limited market.
You would be best off getting android to work on existing AT&T hardware.
in order to do it we would need hardware which would plug in the bottom and software to tell the phone to use the signal from the attachment.
while there wouldnt be millions in the market i guarantee there are hundreds.
if anyone wants to think about it i dont mind making 50 of em and selling for cost. i have some hook ups in the engineering field i work in
ok, my question is... Europe 3g is diff than tmob usa 3g, but is tmob europe the same 3g setup as US? and if europe 3g is same as tmob europe 3g, is att US 3g same as europe 3g. so if tmob europe is same as europe 3g then a europe g1 should work on att US 3g. am i coming thru clear or am i jumping all over?
Shaggy
Shagman68 said:
ok, my question is... Europe 3g is diff than tmob usa 3g, but is tmob europe the same 3g setup as US? and if europe 3g is same as tmob europe 3g, is att US 3g same as europe 3g. so if tmob europe is same as europe 3g then a europe g1 should work on att US 3g. am i coming thru clear or am i jumping all over?
Shaggy
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The American G1 has 3G support for HSDPA 1700 MHz & 2100 MHz, both bands I believe are used by T-Mobile. In Europe I believe they use only 2100 MHz band for 3G.
AT&T on the other hand uses 850 and 1900 MHz HSDPA
The phone has the capability for 2G at 850 and 1900 MHz, so technically it can be used on their network, just not at 3G speeds.
Although technically it's possible to design a Phase-Locked Loop to operate at a variable frequency and to be tuned with jumpers or something, it's probably cheaper for them or they might be subsidized to make phones so that they are exclusive for one network in the US.
To me the ideal is more about standardizing the protocols and the frequencies used for all companies, and having all bands available for traffic. But at least in the short-term that's not really good for business and so probably won't happen for a while.
This is all based entirely on a limited amount of research and my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
Europe uses 1900/2100 in a pair (1900 is the uplink, 2100 is the downlink). (source)
Most phones produced these days are tri or quad band and can work (almost) anywhere.. I'm surprised the G1 isn't.
Shagman68 said:
ok, my question is... Europe 3g is diff than tmob usa 3g, but is tmob europe the same 3g setup as US? and if europe 3g is same as tmob europe 3g, is att US 3g same as europe 3g. so if tmob europe is same as europe 3g then a europe g1 should work on att US 3g. am i coming thru clear or am i jumping all over?
Shaggy
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TonyHoyle said:
Europe uses 1900/2100 in a pair (1900 is the uplink, 2100 is the downlink). (source)
Most phones produced these days are tri or quad band and can work (almost) anywhere.. I'm surprised the G1 isn't.
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*sigh*.
Folks, you need to learn about UMTS bands before complaining about that the G1 or any other phone can't do this or that when it certainly can.
The G1 is a 3g worldphone. It works on the US 1700 AWS network (UMTS Band IV) and works on the world's 2100 network (UMTS Band I). ATT uses the 1900 Band (UMTS Band II).
Apparently the common names for these networks is being confused with the actual operating frequencies because they don't upload and download on the same frequencies. The 1900 band is not the same as the 2100 band, even though the 2100 band (UMTS Band I) uploads in the 1900mhz frequency and downloads at the 2100mhz frequency range. The 1900 Band (UMTS Band II) uploads on the upper half of the 1800mhz and downloads on the 1900mhz frequency range. UMTS Band II uploads on the frequencies that UMTS Band I downloads.
These bands separate.
TMO 3g band is different from ATT 3g band which is also different from EU 3g band.
The 1700 band (UMTS band IV) is actually made up of 2 frequency ranges like the other bands I and II are: 1700mhz and 2100mhz. In fact, the 2100mhz download range for UMTS Band IV is within the same frequencies used for the Band I download range, theoretically making it cheaper/easier for manufacturers who make Band I phones to "support" UMTS Band IV phone production.
Most phones produced today are NOT "tri or quad-band" 3g phones. In fact, I have yet to find a quad-band 3g phone. If quad-band 3g phones were made, they would be very likely to support the T-Mobile 3g network, because it's the 4th largest UMTS band type (behind Band I, II, and V). I would be very shocked to find a phone which was 2100/1900/900/850 instead of 2100/1900/1700/850.
And the G1 is a worldphone. It works just fine on UMTS in Europe. It is a band I and band IV device.
read these 2 links:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS-FDD
So to clarify, when you see a list of support bands, this is what you should interpret from those advertised bands:
2100 Band = UMTS Band I (The entire world outside of North America)
1900 Band = UMTS Band II (The Americas, ATT)
1700 Band = UMTS Band IV (The Americas, TMO)
900 Band = UMTS Band VIII (Australia)
850 Band = UMTS Band V (The Americas, ATT)
Outside of North America, the 2100 band is almost universally deployed, even where the 850,900,1700 or 1900 band is deployed.
Folks,
Please take a Min and help a me out. Me and wife are currently stationed and residing in Kuwait. Kuwait launched 4G LTE service late last year. The LTE network runs on 1800MHz band 3. the same Band as Telstra Australia, and O2 Germany. i have tired almost everything to get my LTE working, yet no luck. Now, the service run on the Iphone 5 and my LTE USB dongle with no problems.
List of things i tried.
1- flashed the following firmware
a- JB Telstra Australia
b- JB Orange France- LTE ON
c- JB SFR France- LTE ON
d- JB Retail Brazilian
Currently running JB O2 Germany
2- tired the service menu to switch to LTE and that didn't work.
3- Attempted to change the band but unable to select or change.
4- the SIM card work fine on the Iphone, so no sim issue
5- The service is activated
Sorry i think i posted in the wrong section. please move to the correct area
4G isn't really LTE. Since you said it uses the same band as used the other 2 providers you should be able to access LTE by flashing the correct radios or the whole rom & using an LTE sim
Sent from my XT925
Also O2 Germany has 800/2600 bands. From which carrier did you purchase your phone?
Skrilax_CZ said:
Also O2 Germany has 800/2600 bands. From which carrier did you purchase your phone?
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Roger/Fido Canada. the device is not branded
This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !
o2qc418 said:
This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !
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Well. this just sucks big time!!!!! :crying: im glad someone have an answer after all
Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?
I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".
Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?
Just trying to help you troubleshoot.
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o2qc418 said:
This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !
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Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.
It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).
Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.
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Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?
I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".
Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?
Just trying to help you troubleshoot.
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Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.
It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).
Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.
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Sir- I want to point out that wataniya is not the provider for the LTE in Kuwait. I had I different SIM card when I took the screenshots. In fact it’s a US AT&T sim that roaming on Wataniya Telcom in Kuwait. The LTE provider in question is Zain Kuwait https://www.kw.zain.com/kw/af/home.do?lang=en . plus I have tried the Telestra firmware and used the correct APN for zain; the same APN I used on the iPhone 5 and the USB dongle. To add, I tried using the LTE/GSM/WCDMA, LTE/WCDMA, and LTE alone options and had it at automatic (2G/3G/4G When I set it at only LTE I lose single completely. The other options allow me 3G H+ only.
UserDemos makes a lot of sense! There are only two modles out there. The 926 and 925. I believed that 925 can run on LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 as advertised by Moto. She I don’t know where the problem is? Anyways the info as showen in the back of the phone are Model XT925 FCCID: IHDT56NG9 TYPE:M0D46 IC ID:109O-T56NG9 . and the BIG CE number is CE0168.
Thanks for not giving up :good:
Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.
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Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.
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Can you provide proof for the rest of the members here? Some of us are curious to know about the bizarre way this phone was manufactured.
Power_Getter said:
Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.
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How did you confirmed this?
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Can you provide proof for the rest of the members here? Some of us are curious to know about the bizarre way this phone was manufactured.
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Were able to figure this mastery out?
In many cases such as Milestone, Milestone 2 etc. there was a Canada / Latin American version and Europe / Asia version with different 3G bands - yet, the phone was called the same for all these versions (MS1 -> A853). Verizon's CDMA Droid (A855) was called differently and other CDMA carriers also had different name (such as MS A854).
This is the same thing, only about 4G bands.
There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600
Power_Getter said:
There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600
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We understand what you're saying, but if you don't supply PROOF to back up your claims, then it's going to be hard for anyone to acknowledge you're right.
Which version are you using? Provide us with the info on the bottom, so we can see what it looks like compared to the other version.
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There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600
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No where in Moto website this info is listed. where are you getting this from?
There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon WITH LTE BAND FOR VERIZON ONLY ( BUT WORK IN HSPA WORLDWIDE TOO)
XT925 for Canada (and some others LATAM ) , 4G band 700/AWS ( no dual Channel HSPA up to 21 mbits )
XT925 for EUROPE & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600 ( and some LATAM country) ( Have Dual Channel HSPA up TO 42 mbits )
Is just not a baseband problem like many people say ... if the hardware don't support ... the hardware don't support ! Yes some phone have hidden band ! but not the case in the moto hd
I confirm again and again...
Proof is very difficult to find... but Motorola have made a bad move
but on the rogers website :
Connectivity
GSM Bands:
850/900/1800/1900
HSPA Bands:
850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands:
700/AWS
Device Speed (LTE):
Up to 75 Mbps1
Wi-Fi:
Yes; 802.11a/b/g/n
GPS:
Yes
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Proof :
Motorola Australia
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Motorola De
Very ****ing
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21,1 Mbit/s (Kategorie 14), HSUPA 5,76 Mbit/s
This is the verizon specs (LTE B13 is the verizon 700 mhz band ... only used by verizon for the moment ) ... but deutchland is the same as australia... Motorola people work bad !
Motorola France
Nothing lol don't take any chance... and Orange carrier in France by exemple have a firmware who block LTE ! Lte actived only on SFR rom... again this is the
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Version !
Motorola UK
Networks 12 CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
AGAIN the ****ing Motorola guy have copy and paste from the Motorola US website ...
But the phone is
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Motorola Canada ...
Networks LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
LTE 700/AWS (1700) ONLYYYYY !!!!!
and 21 mbits !!!
Motorola U.S
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21,1 Mbit/s (Kategorie 14), HSUPA 5,76 Mbit/s
Motorola Mexico
Redes LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
The same as Rogers/Fido !
Motorola Brazil :
LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
Again same version as the Canadian and Mexico version ;p
Motorola Argentina :
LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
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There are 3 version :
1 for Europe/Some asia-pacific !
1 for Canada and some latam
1 for U.S.A with Cdma and Lte just for U.S
if you want lte just check the band in your country ... and buy the device you want ...
If you want best battery go with the xt926 ... but you never get LTE . only 21mbits HSPA around the world !
if you want DC HSPA because no LTE ... buy the Europe Asia Version ... ( My carrier telus in canada have great DC HSPA coverage and speed are great near 25 mbits in download - i have sold my rogers version for the europeen version ... i never get LTE but my baterry is really good ... and have DC hspa in many many place )
if you want LTE choose the right phone before buying...
and oh yes ... the Motorola phone from U.S ... you can't unlock the bootloader !
and again don't listen people who claim is the same phone and this is just a baseband file problem !
motorola brazil razr hd has 2600mhz band.
I have one and all carriers here use this band...
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
lamaboy99 said:
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
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Yes. I believe the difference is that the US version has the 1700AWS band for T-Mobile. Global has the 2100 band that works better overseas.
Ok thanks I don't have TMobile or one of their subsidiaries anyway and tend to travel over seas in the summer so looks like I made the right choice anyway
US radio specs:
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 ; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
above information pulled from thread here by no1_cdn here........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
i own the uk 8gb version screen capture of preferred list bellow
Thanks for the help guys
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
Thanks.
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miinshiou said:
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
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No with the US version you will NOT get 3G in Europe or Taiwan. You will get 2G however. If you want 3G overseas you need to the global version but you lose T-mobiles AWS band support.
thanks. Is there a phone (moto x, nexus 5, or anything) that support 3G band of all carriers in all regions?
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A thing that I've noticed in the reviews is that the US versions of the phone, the cases (at least the black one) has a "metallic" look on that M on the back while the Global / European version that M it's only glossy.
Just got my US 16gb model yesterday via Amazon. Back cover has a glossy black "M" logo, nothing metallic about it.
Bummer to hear this phone won't do 3G in Europe, I went with the USA model since I just moved over to T-mobile, and a lot of the 3G signal in my area is still on 1700 mhz. My AT&T phone was getting 3G in a lot of areas, but just enough EDGE data to annoy me and make me buy the G.
Sorry if this is stupid question but I'm new to this whole band thing. I've tried researching but no answers.
Fido moto g lte specs
Network and Wireless connection
LTE : AWS/2600/900/700 MHz
HSPA Bands: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Download/Upload Speeds: HSDPA 42.2 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76Mbps
Bluetooth® 4.0
Wi-Fi®: 802.11 b/g/
Canadian motorola site lte specs
Networks - Moto G with 4G LTE
US GSM Model:
4G LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 17 (1900, 1700, 850, 700 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
Wind requires AWS 1700 and 1900
I'm not sure if all UMTS 1700 is always AWS? I'm not sure if the US GSM model is the same as canadian model, but it seems to be. Fido doesn't list UMTS but I'm assuming it is since thats the only specs provided on the motorola site. If someone could explain or just let me know if it will work on WIND that would be great.
Thanks
Short answer: yes.
Longer answer: HSPA is a superset of UMTS (you may also see WCDMA, not to be confused with CDMA, which is for our purposes identical). Band 4, a.k.a AWS or UMTS 1700 is a bit unusual in that traffic from the phone to the tower is on 1700 MHz (uplink), but on 2100 MHz from the tower to the phone/user equipment (downlink).
There are three models sold in Canada: XT1032 ("Global" HSPA model) XT1034 ("US" HSPA model, AWS, sold by Wind and Videotron) and XT1040 (LTE model, the US one is the XT1045, what actual differences there are remain to be seen)
Were either of you able to confirm?
I'm on the same boat, conteplating buying the 4G LTE version from FIDO to use on Wind.
Thanks in advance!
Yes to wind
From everything i read it will work on wind as the the only moto g lte with lte 2600 is the same one that has 1700 3g band, Have either of you guys rooted and if so how and where did you find directions. Ill unlock tomorrow am and then let you guys know.
Thanks guys!
I've contacted wind tech support for an official confirmation.
As Darkshado mentioned, the only 4G LTE model listed on Motorola.ca is the US GSM 4G LTE model with the following specs:
Networks - Moto G with 4G LTE
US GSM Model:
4G LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 17 (1900, 1700, 850, 700 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
Everything points to this being able to run on Wind - 1700 and 2100 MHz. It'll be cool if it can..
gthompson75 - by rooting, i suppose you mean a network unlock, right? I dont think you need to "root" to get it working on Wind
wind works
OK I unlocked my Fido moto g LTE today. My model is xt1040, once unlocked no problem on wind. Took a while to get a signal but worked none the less. Hope this helps you guys.
yup, so you're in the same situation as me, i went to 2 different fido stores and no one has it in stock
went online to order it the past few days, error in the last step
call the number and order it over the phone and save your time
hopefully i will be getting the phone soon
i actually found a store called wirelesswave and they had the moto g lte, i took a look at the box, it was the xt1040 (i was expecting the xt1045 just from reading around the subforums), the front of the box does not advertise the 4g/lte at all, it's in small print on the back of the box
I can also confirm it works. Thanks for the help guys.
where did you unlock it from and how much did it cost
gthompson75 said:
OK I unlocked my Fido moto g LTE today. My model is xt1040, once unlocked no problem on wind. Took a while to get a signal but worked none the less. Hope this helps you guys.
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hey i had a quick question, where did you get it unlocked from and how much did it cost.
if i could get a website.
I have the same problem : I can't find any website to unlock it for sure.
If those who already have unlocked their XT1040 could reply, it would be fantastic.
Thanks.
Fido phone on Wind network
They
p4png said:
Sorry if this is stupid question but I'm new to this whole band thing. I've tried researching but no answers.
Fido moto g lte specs
Network and Wireless connection
LTE : AWS/2600/900/700 MHz
HSPA Bands: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Download/Upload Speeds: HSDPA 42.2 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76Mbps
Bluetooth® 4.0
Wi-Fi®: 802.11 b/g/
Canadian motorola site lte specs
Networks - Moto G with 4G LTE
US GSM Model:
4G LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 17 (1900, 1700, 850, 700 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
Wind requires AWS 1700 and 1900
I'm not sure if all UMTS 1700 is always AWS? I'm not sure if the US GSM model is the same as canadian model, but it seems to be. Fido doesn't list UMTS but I'm assuming it is since thats the only specs provided on the motorola site. If someone could explain or just let me know if it will work on WIND that would be great.
Thanks
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Don't believe so. In Canada, phones which work on Bell, Rogers, Telus networks will not work on neither Wind or Mobilicity networks, even though Wind mobile phone have full functionality on Mobilicity and vice versa, after unlocking, of course. In my experience, however, the unlocked Wind/ Mobilicity phone does work on the other networks, you wont get 3G or LTE data connection though, only 2G.
@chichibud31: Dude.... Did you read the thread? Multiple posts from users in the field confirming it works.
The whole "Robellus phones don't work on Wind/Mobilicity/Vidéotron and vice versa" is mostly obsolete. (Caveat emptor, but usually the worst case scenario is that you'll have to play with QPST.)
There was some truth to it back when the new entrants launched their networks and penta-band HSPA SoCs were not common. But even back then you had devices like the Telus Galaxy S 2 X that worked on AWS HSPA because it was the same model as what T-Mobile USA sold.
I've been using a Mobilicity T889V on Virgin Mobile then Koodo for about two years. DC-HSPA worked out of the box and I got LTE working as well. Activating AWS HSPA on the Rogers/Bell/Telus variant is easy.
It's been said before, the non-LTE XT1032 won't work with AWS carriers; out of the box at least, it remains to be seen if it could be modded.
That's actually a non-advertised feature of the LTE Moto G versus it's HSPA-only siblings: it can roam pretty much worldwide on 3G.
Just thought i should post this since i noticed a lot of people complain about LTE not working for them on their Mate 7 even though their network operator has LTE. Well the truth is that unlike 3G, LTE has two different modes. One called TDD/TD(Time Division Duplex) and another FDD (Frequency division duplex). What this means is that if your LTE network is on say the FDD mode, and your mate 7 supports TDD, even if your frequency is supported it wont work for you due to the fact that your mode isn't supported on the device. This happened to me and i did a research and found the reason. Though there are some devices that support dual mode LTE (meaning they support both the TDD and FDD) but unfortunately the AM7 doesn't. Especially not the one that shipped to Nigeria. Mine supports TDD but unfortunately the only 4G network available for use on mobile in my country (Smile network) is on the FDD.
Also check this blog for your network operator to see the band, mode and frequency it uses. Hope am allowed to post links but if not moderators should feel free to remove it. Thanks
http://www.huaweimobileshop.com/blog/4g-lte-frequencies/
Your information are a bit off. The Mate 7 distributed in Nigeria supports both the FDD and TDD LTE. It just does not support the band that Smile is using which is FDD 800MHz or Band 20. It supports the TDD 2300MHz (Band 40) supported by both Spectranet and Swift Networks in Lagos. iPhone 6 supports both bands 20 and 40 in Nigeria. I think the people in Huawei in Nigeria miscalculated since only Swift and Spectranet are available in Lagos, the commercial capital of Nigeria.
These are the bands supported by the Mate 7 sold in Nigeria. FDD-LTE 1800 / 2100 / 2600 and TDD-LTE 1900 / 2300 / 2500 / 2600 (Bands 1, 3, 7, 38, 39, 40, 41).