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Thinking about trading my S6 Edge for a Ascend Mate 7

I'm deciding if I should make the trade. The main reason is the battery. I found the S6 Edge battery is not enough for me (getting 3 SOT max and it does not last more than 10 hours). So I want to install a Stock ROM on it (is it possible?) and have "infinite" battery life with a good phone.
Any feedbacks on this decision?

Go for P8 Max. It also has 6inch screen, 4000mAh and 16mp camera. The specs are better than Mate 7.
I admit Mate 7 is a good phone but why settle for an old model when there is a new one. Plus, P8 Max has a more updated software, and can be upgraded to Marshmallow in the future.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones, i had a note 2 for 3 yrs and then got a mate 7 and i am a bit sorry as trying to root the phone has been a nightmare and i am VERY worried about bricking this phone..
the note 2 is ALMOST impossible to brick and the support for samsung is brilliant on this forum where as the mate even after one year is still iffy.
please don't get me wrong the Mate 7 is a fantastic phone but i am still very uncomfortable to root it as there are SO may opinions and different ways ... (

Mine runs rock solid rooted, still on kitkat.
Rooting is the best for it as you can strip out the google bloat from /system/app.
I've kept most of the Huawei extras but the launcher is rubbish and I installed Smart Launcher Pro. I also installed Viper4Android for awesome sound, poweramp for quality music playback UE. For convenience of screen use, kinscreen, and to help the battery and keep data use under control, leandroid. I also flashed in the Xperia kitkat keyboard through CWM and removed google keyboard.
An older version of xposed is installed with some modules.
All up, it runs well, battery lasts well and it's set up to suit me better. The hardware is good for the price. Connectivity is great.
Apart from the poor Huawei launcher, the Huawei software is actually quite good and even has built in tools to manage permission and memory residence.
The launcher is no big deal when you can just install another and set it as default even if not rooted.
Happy I got mine.

Not for the Mate 7. I have had nothing with issues with the screen on mine. Replaced 2 times by service center. There were lines across the screen that were brighter than the rest of the screen. Got the S6 a week ago.

XenSA said:
The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones......
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.

droidbot1337 said:
i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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What do you find so annoying about the software? I quite like the look and feel, very very stable and in my case it has even made up for the urge I normally have to flash roms, simply because there is no need. I appreciate that some may have had issues with the device but I guess you'll find that with every other device on the market.
I've had samsungs for quite a while before switching to the mate 7 and to be honest after so many years I got tired of Touchwiz with degrading performance or a CM alternative with poorer camera quality.
Instead of flashing one ROM after the other I find myself spending more time using the device enjoying its massive 6" screen [emoji1]
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kta said:
What do you find so annoying about the software?........
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!

droidbot1337 said:
i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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True, the Nexus 6p is very nice with an even better screen, although tiny smaller.
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Just switched my mate 7 out for a Nexus 6p - like many people on this thread while I thought the hardware was great (especially the battery life!), the iffy software and half assed updates got to me in the end (I came to the mate from a Nexus 5).
The 6p is spot on - shows what huawei can do when running Android as its meant to be. Battery life not so good as the mate 7, but plenty good enough. If you are coming from a high end phone like an s6 edge I'd say the 6p would be a better bet. As regards screen size... I'm not really noticing any reduction in what I can see on the 6p, but going down to 5.7 with a slim width does really help with holding the phone one handed.

I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.

psn1819 said:
I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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Well, all phones have their negative sides. I love this phone because of the big screen and long battery life. It has a decent camera. It doesnt lag when playing games.
Give it a chance and I hope you will love this phone too. If ever your Mate 7 still runs on KK just leave it be. Lots of bugs in LP.
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol

psn1819 said:
I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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To each his own I guess, but Lollipop is running super stable on my Mate 7.
Custom ROMS are not really an option on this device, there's pretty much no development going on, just have a quick look at the development sub forum and you can easily tell there's not so much going on there.
Make sure that if yo need to upgrade your device try following the official path first, allowing the phone to update itself to LP 5.1.1. If for some reason you don't get the updates just make sure you follow the instructions properly to update with an official ROM from Huawei's website and you should be just fine [emoji6]
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psn1819 said:
I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I did have lollipop running on mine for a while, and to be fair it was OK. However, it did seem to be missing some things that were included in KK - the carrier aggregation toggle, and after a hard reset it lost the motion control gesture settings etc.
Hence my point about it being glitchy. The other things that I found annoying is the EMUI customization made it difficult to access some of the underlying android screens (such as data usage etc). Also, I found that Google Voice when used in the USA would not dial out with the correct caller ID and number due to Huawei dialer I couldn't change. The other thing is that it is a bit laborious to change ROMs - you've got to download this, incremental update that, flash this to go back to the start etc.....a bit of pain really and one I couldn't really work out why it was necessary - again points to Huawei releasing all sorts of different confusing updates worldwide some of which were not complete.
Don't get me wrong, fundamentally there's nothing wrong with the phone - its just not a good tinkerers phone, nor is is well supported - none of the ported over more 'pure android' roms have yet been able to make the fingerprint sensor operate and can have iffy result with bluetooth etc.

New UI

Hope the new SGS7 will have a new UI
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ariofirstson said:
Hope the new SGS7 will have a new UI
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It probably will. I reckon it will be an evolution as opposed to an evolution. That's my hope anyway

Google have been working with Samsung the last year. Hopefully the've re-written TW from the ground up. Looking forward to this one..

Seems icon will be like this

I hope galaxy S7 UI is faster and smoother then Nexus 6P.

NOTE 5 Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android.i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz.

i dont think it will be changing to a better one , since samsung is doing the same thing over and over again.

Usama707 said:
NOTE 5 Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android.i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz.
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Probably because TW has been literally the same for the past 8 years.

BlackMesa123 said:
Seems icon will be like this
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If these are the real icons i like these.

I just hope they don't keep the white background as seen on the marshmallow's beta builds on the s6.

do you guys think this phone will be better than the Nexus 6P?

XavierAD said:
do you guys think this phone will be better than the Nexus 6P?
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I guess it will be because of the collab rumors with google to smoothen the ui. This galaxy seems as if it is a polished s6.

Leonardohernandez98 said:
I guess it will be because of the collab rumors with google to smoothen the ui. This galaxy seems as if it is a polished s6.
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Would that make it easier to Developers to root?

XavierAD said:
Would that make it easier to Developers to root?
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I don't think so. I guess it will be the same

CyberStormZA said:
It probably will. I reckon it will be an evolution as opposed to an evolution. That's my hope anyway
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Touchwiz will be the same polished turd it has always been.

Beetle84 said:
Touchwiz will be the same polished turd it has always been.
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It's a trade-off. Definitely not as smooth as stock android, but the features blow stock away.
Plus, with custom, Touchwiz-based ROMs and kernels you get the smoothness back. I don't hate it.

Usama707 said:
NOTE 5 Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android.i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz.
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Coming from someone who had a note 5 and now a 6P, I can tell you that you are way wrong. Sounds like you haven't used a stock Android phone since KitKat.

geoff5093 said:
Coming from someone who had a note 5 and now a 6P, I can tell you that you are way wrong. Sounds like you haven't used a stock Android phone since KitKat.
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I mean he can't really be wrong, it's just his opinion.
Whether or not that opinion is based on recent AOSP roms is another story though...

Akw6190 said:
I mean he can't really be wrong, it's just his opinion.
Whether or not that opinion is based on recent AOSP roms is another story though...
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He said "Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android", making it sound like he was stating a fact. Normally I would have glossed over this as I knew what he meant, but then he said "i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz"

mwatson said:
Google have been working with Samsung the last year. Hopefully the've re-written TW from the ground up. Looking forward to this one..
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Makes no business sense. I heard that rumor many times without any actual proof. While I keep thinking about it. what incentives google has for helping Samsung? None!
It's not like Samsung has problems to sell phones, or Google will lose money if it doesn't help Samsung. For example, all nexus phone suffer from bad battery life. I have used 2 nexus, both were terrible batterylife. If GGogle was so good, they should first improve their own software implementation before helping others, right?

[Discuss] Android 8.0 Oreo

As you might have noticed, Android 8.0 codename Oreo has been officially released today.
Let's discuss all news, speculations, development, and opinions on Android Oreo, especially for our Galaxy S8 and S8+ devices.

not much to discuss - S8 still on Android 7.0 when even Nokia is on 7.1
Id say - expect it on Galaxy S9 - next year in March
If im wrong - i ll buy you a beer

The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo

joe3681 said:
The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo
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I just wish the MMS bug was fixed. 7.0 has the issue, 7.1 doesn't and it's super annoying.

I think that there is a lot to discuss, mostly about design , UI
As every new major os update samsung ui is completely different. Remember Kitkat then lollipop on galaxy s6 , then marshmallow on galaxy s7 and nougat on s6 7 8 is one of the biggest changes. So did you expect or want (or not) ui changes both in system interface and icons , or getting closer to aosp look? I personally love the s8 ui and icons but I think I could be nice to have in apps instead of pure white , a white that is just a little little bit tinted with app accent color, I mean in the dialer app for example, instead of white background, a white that is a little bit tinted with a very light and pastel green . I could bring a little bit of color and uniqueness to all of the apps

tim2london said:
not much to discuss - S8 still on Android 7.0 when even Nokia is on 7.1
Id say - expect it on Galaxy S9 - next year in March
If im wrong - i ll buy you a beer
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Android O has already been confirmed for the s8/s8+.
The reason Samsung hasn't updated to 7.1 is because it's not really needed since the s8/s8+ already does everything 7.1 has to offer.
It's speculated that Android O will be released for the s8/s8+ in January.

joe3681 said:
The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo
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There are tons of changes under the hood and bugfixes to Android you know?
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Wondering if Touchwiz will be updated on the S8 when it gets Oreo. Or would it just be what we have now (8.1) with Oreo underneath. I got the S8 purely for the hardware, never been a fan of touchwiz.
What Android O features is Samsung going to replace or just not implement? That's an interesting question.
Was rocking an iPhone 7 for a while, but when ios11 got announced and offered literally nothing of value I said "F this" and came back to Android.
I miss the Play Edition phones.

Tachi91 said:
Wondering if Touchwiz will be updated on the S8 when it gets Oreo. Or would it just be what we have now (8.1) with Oreo underneath. I got the S8 purely for the hardware, never been a fan of touchwiz.
What Android O features is Samsung going to replace or just not implement? That's an interesting question.
Was rocking an iPhone 7 for a while, but when ios11 got announced and offered literally nothing of value I said "F this" and came back to Android.
I miss the Play Edition phones.
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on android 8 on galaxy s8, Samsung experience is expected to jump from actual 8.1 to 8.5

Haha Android Oreo. Samsung won't release anything for maybe 9 months. Your better off wishing for a bootloader unlock then installing a custom rom which modi likely won't happen for maybe 6 months.

Android O has copied / borrowed a lot from the Samsung Experience UI. It's notable in terms of functionality and also in certain UI-design, such as the revamped settings menu. It looks nearly identical to the one on the S8.
Except for a few under-the-hood optimizations Android O has NOTHING to offer to an Galaxy S6 or newer Samsung device. We already have ALL features of the Android O feature list. There is no need to getting Android O in my opinion. It's nice that those new features are borrowed from Samsung and integrated into vanilla Android but that's all there is to it. I don't need Android Oreo but I do appreciate the security updates. Keep in mind that Nougat on the S8 has a lot more features and built-in features than Vanilla Nougat! Oreo simply narrows the gap between Vanilla and the current flagship leader, Samsung in terms of usable functionality that is genuine handy with day-to-day usage.

joe3681 said:
The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo
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Can you hold press on a app icon and launch shortcuts-commands? eg: send new message in Whatsapp, or compose new email in
Does it have the notification actionable bubble?
if the answer is NO i guess literally everything is a bit incorect
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ipwnin3D said:
Android O has already been confirmed for the s8/s8+.
The reason Samsung hasn't updated to 7.1 is because it's not really needed since the s8/s8+ already does everything 7.1 has to offer.
It's speculated that Android O will be released for the s8/s8+ in January.
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already does everything 7.1 has to offer?
Press long on an app icon for in-app shortcuts - commands>
does it do that - bcz its one thing to press long an whatsapp icon and get things like uninstall, move app etc - and another thing to get send message to John, etc commands

If I am not mistaken note 8 is at 7.1 and it's a same hardware like s8 cpu wise so I think that we will get 7.1 very fast

tuk1maar said:
Android O has copied / borrowed a lot from the Samsung Experience UI. It's notable in terms of functionality and also in certain UI-design, such as the revamped settings menu. It looks nearly identical to the one on the S8.
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Yea I wouldn't go that far.
Everyone wants to have Android O on their S8. If all we get from this day forward is nothing but security updates. You'll be in the very small minority and everyone else would cause a scene and either abandon their 8 or beg Samsung for it.
Samsung has been doing a good job at keeping the S8 updated so far. Hopefully they do a good timely update to Oreo. Having treble should make updates easier for them to push out.

tim2london said:
Can you hold press on a app icon and launch shortcuts-commands?
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I may be wrong but doesn't Nova Launcher allow this?

tim2london said:
Can you hold press on a app icon and launch shortcuts-commands? eg: send new message in Whatsapp, or compose new email in
Does it have the notification actionable bubble?
if the answer is NO i guess literally everything is a bit incorect
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already does everything 7.1 has to offer?
Press long on an app icon for in-app shortcuts - commands>
does it do that - bcz its one thing to press long an whatsapp icon and get things like uninstall, move app etc - and another thing to get send message to John, etc commands
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Yep, mine sure can. That's been a Nova launcher feature forever.

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Yep, mine sure can. That's been a Nova launcher feature forever.
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Nova Launcher is not Android 7.1 is it?
not everyone use it as its an AdOn
Sure you can get apps/installers to make it look like Android 8 - but is not android 8 is it

tim2london said:
Nova Launcher is not Android 7.1 is it?
not everyone use it as its an AdOn
Sure you can get apps/installers to make it look like Android 8 - but is not android 8 is it
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Thats what android is, mate. This is not iphone, u can, and assume you customize your phone via apps

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Yep, mine sure can. That's been a Nova launcher feature forever.
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Thats what android is, mate. This is not iphone, u can, and assume you customize your phone via apps
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Yes i get that - but its still android 7.0
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Coming from the s6, i saw the exact same train of thought i see here, so im going to say its always going to be a samsung "thing". When i had my s6 and it was on MM, people were in such an uproar about nougat and even when they got it they still were. I was happy with MM, people moreso say oh what about the security updates, i was an a 7 month old rom and never had any issues and only moved to nougat roms when the one i was one stopped updating.
Now i have the s8+, had it 3 weeks now and im not even thinking about the Oreo update right now, im happy with what i have, and when Oreo does come out for the phone i'll see how people find it 1st rather than jump in head first and then regret it.
I know Samsungs update policy so im not going to get in a huff about the update, people not so aware may not share my feelings.

Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?

Really !!! Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?
Yes I own a Galaxy S7 and yes I know what board this is but
The phone provided to me by work and I am stuck with it
This is a work phone I can not debloat, root, do custom ROMs
So what do I have,
I have a device that will never see Android 8.1, hell even the S 9 is at 8.0 "You know the S 9 may get Android 9.0 in the summer of 2019 if they are lucky.
I will not hold my breath for even 8.0
Every second day it seems Samsung pushes on my device some "Samsung" bloat they think I want, I which I can never uninstall and if I try to disable it, it will turn back on.
They feel they have a great, interface..... Without Nova Launcher I will be lost.
Thank you for not having Bixby..... maybe Samsung will decide to push that piece of junk to the S7 but for now I am free
Really I hate the S7, the bloat, being locked down, the lack of updates but people still buy them ?
Why ?
Maybe a major market is Corporations that like locked down devices.
Yes the company says here is your S7 ..... enjoy.
I hate the Samsung S9 so much I may actually buy my own device for work "The Pixel", think I will wait for the Pixel 3 but then ..... to Samsung so long and thanks for the Bloat.

Because they are good at making commercials so they lie people. And people are stupid and buying every year the new Samsung. They don't give a damn about android, they just want the latest model from Samsung.

@andrei1412
Not really... Samsung is simply the best hardware manufacturer, best amoled display (always the brightest every year), best camera (yes other manufacurer are building nice ones too), really good build quality overall, Samsung theme store (to establish android vanilla look, who else is featureing this?). You don't need to debloat since you don't neeed to use the samsung apps. Debloating can lead to increased battery drain.

As they said above, usually the best hardware for droid phones at that point in time and the Samsung hype makes it same league as iPhone so anyone who dislikes Apple usually go Samsung if they don't go HTC, or moto. For me I have owned the majority of every galaxy s and these phones with custom roms always seemed to be the best droid phone on the market in terms of battery life and performance.

stuey25 said:
As they said above, usually the best hardware for droid phones at that point in time and the Samsung hype makes it same league as iPhone so anyone who dislikes Apple usually go Samsung if they don't go HTC, or moto. For me I have owned the majority of every galaxy s and these phones with custom roms always seemed to be the best droid phone on the market in terms of battery life and performance.
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What custom rom you think is the best for galaxy s7? And also it`s worth to root it and lose spay & other things that work only with knox? Thanks

cristiandiaconu6 said:
What custom rom you think is the best for galaxy s7? And also it`s worth to root it and lose spay & other things that work only with knox? Thanks
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Probably not worth it if you use those features, I think some of the roms can be ran with no root cause there based on stock and still use that stuff but I'm not sure about Knox. I've only had this s7 flat for a week and tried, bobcat rom, slim stable 2.0, and I'm on ultimate nougat now. I'm really liking ultimate nougats look with the theme,battery life so far, and the debloat.
These 3 seem stable but there's a ton of roms to choose from so you would have to test for yourself to determine your best and read/ sift through the threads and see what people are saying about the rom.

You can disable all bloat using a package disabler, which works without root. Android 8.0 is coming in 2 weeks, and I don't know why you even want 8.1 because there are almost no changes to talk about. Even 8.0's most notable feature PIP has been available in Samsung devices for a long time.
Your problems about rooting and custom ROMs are only because it's a work phone.
It looks like you didn't research any of your problems before coming to rant here :/

AstroDigital said:
Really !!! Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?
Yes I own a Galaxy S7 and yes I know what board this is but
The phone provided to me by work and I am stuck with it
This is a work phone I can not debloat, root, do custom ROMs
So what do I have,
I have a device that will never see Android 8.1, hell even the S 9 is at 8.0 "You know the S 9 may get Android 9.0 in the summer of 2019 if they are lucky.
I will not hold my breath for even 8.0
Every second day it seems Samsung pushes on my device some "Samsung" bloat they think I want, I which I can never uninstall and if I try to disable it, it will turn back on.
They feel they have a great, interface..... Without Nova Launcher I will be lost.
Thank you for not having Bixby..... maybe Samsung will decide to push that piece of junk to the S7 but for now I am free
Really I hate the S7, the bloat, being locked down, the lack of updates but people still buy them ?
Why ?
Maybe a major market is Corporations that like locked down devices.
Yes the company says here is your S7 ..... enjoy.
I hate the Samsung S9 so much I may actually buy my own device for work "The Pixel", think I will wait for the Pixel 3 but then ..... to Samsung so long and thanks for the Bloat.
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Try to build your own device.
Bcs Samsung is damn good in hardware software and build quality.
Now I'm texting this post with my 4th S7.
And my Past list is like below just read it and u can understand why we use Samsung devices.
1 galaxy Grand.
3 galaxy s7
1 galaxy s4
2 galaxy s5
2 galaxy note3
2 galaxy note4
1 galaxy note5
1 galaxy a6 edge 64gb
2 galaxy s6 64gb
1 galaxy a7 edge
4 galaxy s7
All this bcs of build quality
Awesome software
Awesome ui
And best resale value
And others for time pass is
3 Nexus 5
1 moto g4
1 mi 4i.
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rahul1533 said:
Try to build your own device.
Bcs Samsung is damn good in hardware software and build quality.
Now I'm texting this post with my 4th S7.
And my Past list is like below just read it and u can understand why we use Samsung devices.
1 galaxy Grand.
3 galaxy s7
1 galaxy s4
2 galaxy s5
2 galaxy note3
2 galaxy note4
1 galaxy note5
1 galaxy a6 edge 64gb
2 galaxy s6 64gb
1 galaxy a7 edge
4 galaxy s7
All this bcs of build quality
Awesome software
Awesome ui
And best resale value
And others for time pass is
3 Nexus 5
1 moto g4
1 mi 4i.
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We (as a household) have a rather large number of Samsung devices - the S7 is, in fact, the first one that was NOT purchased deliberately (I got it as a gift) and replaced the far-older Galaxy Nexus (which I got from my mother). We also have two Galaxy tablets and four Samsung HDTVs (and two Samsung optical drives). Why all the Samsung hardware? Three words - bang for buck. Look at ALL the areas in which Samsung makes hardware (from Android to PC to appliances they have (and rather consistently) offered top-ten bang-for-buck - and not just in the US; if you do that, your products will sell. Are they perfect? No; however, who is? Even the folks that have DINGED Samsung admit that it is often due to issues with a specific Samsung product or a specific lack (in the case of the S7, it's about the locked bootloader). Still, is an unlocked bootloader that big a plus on the devices that compete with the S7 and up? How many of those devices have issues WORSE than those of the S7 and above - even with the locked bootloader (such as the Pixel and Pixel2)?

DarkerJava said:
You can disable all bloat using a package disabler, which works without root. Android 8.0 is coming in 2 weeks, and I don't know why you even want 8.1 because there are almost no changes to talk about. Even 8.0's most notable feature PIP has been available in Samsung devices for a long time.
Your problems about rooting and custom ROMs are only because it's a work phone.
It looks like you didn't research any of your problems before coming to rant here :/
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8.0 Not in Canada and I do not know if Rogers ever plans on it. "Think I seen somewhere Summer 2018, oh sure"
BK Package Manager only disables and freezes, nothing that you can not do without buy it. "Can not uninstall and with only 5Gig left it would be good to get rid of some bloat"

DarkerJava said:
You can disable all bloat using a package disabler, which works without root. Android 8.0 is coming in 2 weeks, and I don't know why you even want 8.1 because there are almost no changes to talk about. Even 8.0's most notable feature PIP has been available in Samsung devices for a long time.
Your problems about rooting and custom ROMs are only because it's a work phone.
It looks like you didn't research any of your problems before coming to rant here :/
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2 weeks ? They said summer.

Ah, if a phone ain't got the latest and greatest government tracking software I don't want it. So I'm gonna go to xda and post a "why do people buy" but talk about samdung bloat over all mighty Google. I hate I hate I hate. People should just buy Google devices cause I like them!!!! They push the only thing I care about, the .1's, and oh, you need to see what they do when they jump a full .0 again. Oh man

What 8.0/8.1 feature are you desperate for?
What other sub 5.3" phone has best amoled screen, top camera, large battery, top procecessor, wireless charging, ip68? Please tell me of this other phone

AstroDigital said:
8.0 Not in Canada and I do not know if Rogers ever plans on it. "Think I seen somewhere Summer 2018, oh sure"
BK Package Manager only disables and freezes, nothing that you can not do without buy it. "Can not uninstall and with only 5Gig left it would be good to get rid of some bloat"
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I'm also in Canada and usually we get updates without delay after their release from Samsung. From what I've seen (on their OS upgrade schedule), they only announce the release dates for updates a couple of days before we actually get them. My source is another phone carrier in another country: http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon .
For the bloatware, you can uninstall all updates and keep the stubs (which will remove most of the app), and then freeze the app using AdHell or SABS. Although there isn't much bloatware to start with on phones in Canada.
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2 weeks ? They said summer.
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http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon

DarkerJava said:
I'm also in Canada and usually we get updates without delay after their release from Samsung. From what I've seen (on their OS upgrade schedule), they only announce the release dates for updates a couple of days before we actually get them. My source is another phone carrier in another country: http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon .
For the bloatware, you can uninstall all updates and keep the stubs (which will remove most of the app), and then freeze the app using AdHell or SABS. Although there isn't much bloatware to start with on phones in Canada.
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http://www.guncelmiyiz.com/akilli-telefon
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It's not official. I would only trust samsung website,sammobile or some other known websites.

AstroDigital said:
Really !!! Why do people buy Samsung Devices ?
Yes I own a Galaxy S7 and yes I know what board this is but
The phone provided to me by work and I am stuck with it
This is a work phone I can not debloat, root, do custom ROMs
So what do I have,
I have a device that will never see Android 8.1, hell even the S 9 is at 8.0 "You know the S 9 may get Android 9.0 in the summer of 2019 if they are lucky.
I will not hold my breath for even 8.0
Every second day it seems Samsung pushes on my device some "Samsung" bloat they think I want, I which I can never uninstall and if I try to disable it, it will turn back on.
They feel they have a great, interface..... Without Nova Launcher I will be lost.
Thank you for not having Bixby..... maybe Samsung will decide to push that piece of junk to the S7 but for now I am free
Really I hate the S7, the bloat, being locked down, the lack of updates but people still buy them ?
Why ?
Maybe a major market is Corporations that like locked down devices.
Yes the company says here is your S7 ..... enjoy.
I hate the Samsung S9 so much I may actually buy my own device for work "The Pixel", think I will wait for the Pixel 3 but then ..... to Samsung so long and thanks for the Bloat.
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This is one of the most imbecile rant I read on XDA so far: the real question is why your company is giving you a phone you don't like and you should ask your company.
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What 8.0/8.1 feature are you desperate for?
What other sub 5.3" phone has best amoled screen, top camera, large battery, top procecessor, wireless charging, ip68? Please tell me of this other phone
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I think the feature he wants is when he is looking at Software Information and Android Version to see the Number 8.1. He can't name other feature because he doesn't know one.
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most imbecile rant I do not call people names maybe you should look in a mirror.
You know what I find imbecilic is Samsung fanboys, you claim you like Android yet you sign up with a company that does not give you a pure Android Experience.
You are so blind to Samsung you do not realize their hardware is not significantly better than from other manufacturers.
Amoled unless if you are and anal idiot, displays are subjective
Top Camera this is a S7 while the camera is good "it is not the best"
Large battery do you suppose other phone have significantly worse better live ?
Top processor many phones have newer generation processors, but like the "best" display the processor even on a 2 year old device runs everything fine.
Wireless Charging is at times convenient but not a deal maker you do know Wireless chargers are slower and not as efficient as chargers that some people have a hard time with figuring out. "Do some research look it up"
IP68 once again, you know out of the several dozen Android devices I purchased ....... not one ever got water damaged.
Out of all of these ......
I rather have Android as it is meet to be from the inventors non modified and non skinned
Hardware be damned
And yes I know what Google introduced in 8.1 https://www.xda-developers.com/android-8-1-oreo-developer-preview-features/
The Essential phone skipped Android 8.0 and when directly to 8.1
Samsung S9 and S9+ released with 8.0
Rogers at the time only had the Samsung S7, no other devices.

Flaming is not tolerated on XDA and any escalation in this thread will result in action against the users at fault and/or the thread being closed.
Hopefully this discussion can be a civil exchange of opinions from both Samsung haters and lovers alike. We must all accept that as human beings, each one of us is entitled to our opinion and/or preferences, regardless of whether they're seen as logical or not by others.
Keep it cool, dudes.

AstroDigital said:
most imbecile rant I do not call people names maybe you should look in a mirror.
You know what I find imbecilic is Samsung fanboys, you claim you like Android yet you sign up with a company that does not give you a pure Android Experience.
You are so blind to Samsung you do not realize their hardware is not significantly better than from other manufacturers.
Amoled unless if you are and anal idiot, displays are subjective
Top Camera this is a S7 while the camera is good "it is not the best"
Large battery do you suppose other phone have significantly worse better live ?
Top processor many phones have newer generation processors, but like the "best" display the processor even on a 2 year old device runs everything fine.
Wireless Charging is at times convenient but not a deal maker you do know Wireless chargers are slower and not as efficient as chargers that some people have a hard time with figuring out. "Do some research look it up"
IP68 once again, you know out of the several dozen Android devices I purchased ....... not one ever got water damaged.
Out of all of these ......
I rather have Android as it is meet to be from the inventors non modified and non skinned
Hardware be damned
And yes I know what Google introduced in 8.1 https://www.xda-developers.com/android-8-1-oreo-developer-preview-features/
The Essential phone skipped Android 8.0 and when directly to 8.1
Samsung S9 and S9+ released with 8.0
Rogers at the time only had the Samsung S7, no other devices.
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They may not have significantly better hardware now, but it was still the best of its time. The camera was the best until the Pixel came out half a year later. There were no compromises with this phone, and as much as you try make hardware features not seem not as important, they make a difference when choosing between something like a iPhone 6s/7 and another device.
And now I ask, how is anything of what you've said detract from the Android experience? Samsung may add features to Android, but they don't ever take away. I can also fully reskin Touchwiz to look like stock with any theme I like using Substratum and Nova Launcher. I also don't know why Android 8.1 is so important to you, as everything is just a UI change.
You probably shouldn't have bought a 2 year old non-Google phone if you wanted to jerk off to having the latest UI from Google. Also, you should realize that many people don't care about simple UI changes or optical differences. Maybe if we were iOS users, we would care, but this is a forum for Android enthusiasts.
Don't call others fanboys or other silly names just because they have different expectations when they buy a device.
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It's not official. I would only trust samsung website,sammobile or some other known websites.
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I guess we will see in 2 weeks. Again, when is the last time Samsung announced the specific date for an update well before it releases?

I did not start the name calling but when "coradux" called me an imbecile, who would not take it personally.
I own a S7 now, will likely be buying a Pixel XL 3 "or whatever it is called in October"
Some people like me want quick updates and pure Android, others do not care.
I really did not know what I hoped to prove from this post. I think it should be closed.

[Future Request] Port Samsung One UI to Pocophone F1

I know it is strange but they released One UI beta on Samsung S8, S8+, S9 and S9+. I hope when it is released on stable, someone would port it on Pocophone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-one-ui-beta-samsung-galaxy-s9-galaxy-s9-plus/
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-one-ui-beta-android-pie/

Samsung is well-know for their closed-source and poor hardware-optimized ROMs, i thinks you should try OOS port and any AOSP, if you like cartoon look ui like samsung,why not stick with miui?

thanhnvt194 said:
Samsung is well-know for their closed-source and poor hardware-optimized ROMs, i thinks you should try OOS port and any AOSP, if you like cartoon look ui like samsung,why not stick with miui?
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OneUI is quite good buddy, unlike their previous OS

Samsung's UI is really poorly optimized....and is closed source

thanhnvt194 said:
Samsung is well-know for their closed-source and poor hardware-optimized ROMs, i thinks you should try OOS port and any AOSP, if you like cartoon look ui like samsung,why not stick with miui?
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Aybouzaglou said:
Samsung's UI is really poorly optimized....and is closed source
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Do u guys actually used the ONE UI? Samsung's software was way too bloated in TOUCHWIZ days, now a days it got a lot better and in few ways feature rich(comparing to stock or AOSP with bare mimimum features for a phone).
Source: I own a POCO now, but also borrow friend's S9 occasionally.

OneUI is heaps beyond touchwiz or samsung experience ui. I have the s8 plus with the 3rd beta of One UI and it feels and looks great. I like how reachable the items are with just a hand.

scorpienez said:
Do u guys actually used the ONE UI? Samsung's software was way too bloated in TOUCHWIZ days, now a days it got a lot better and in few ways feature rich(comparing to stock or AOSP with bare mimimum features for a phone).
Source: I own a POCO now, but also borrow friend's S9 occasionally.
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Porting is different from being phone's native OS. You gotta read more about custom development.
Or just buy a Samsung device.

I'm also interested in this.

pepo930 said:
I'm also interested in this.
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Great, and what are you doing to make it possible?

pepo930 said:
I'm also interested in this.
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Me too. Eagerly waiting for someone to port oneui to poco

I personnaly am waiting for a mi 8 port of the one ui rom but idk if someone will do it. :/