Pie OTA received today for retail US edition - Moto Z3 Play Guides, News, & Discussion

Everyone who has been waiting for Pie should go check it now...

OMG! It's actually there. Running the install now.
Q beta became available for our Pixel 3a's today.

I feel the Pie is smoother than version 8.1
And hope Q is no better than Pie so that I can hold Z3 play for longer.
ritchea said:
OMG! It's actually there. Running the install now.
Q beta became available for our Pixel 3a's today.
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Ummmm can I roll back the upgrade? Miss the transparent background and the new gestures are absolutely horrible! Never was a fan of pie but motoz implementation of it sucks on their non Android one devices. And what's with this dark mode sh$# just give me holo design. Thank God I'm selling this phone! Samsung's one UI is so much better! And that's coming from a long term non impressed Motorola user

Yea.. just checked it and it was there available for pie update..
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Edit: How do we enable the system tools back? It used to be pressing the settings icon and it will rotates until you got notifiy for the system tools being enabled.

Downloaded last night. It fixed a few issues I was having on Oreo. No complaints.

Got the update today, no issues so far.

I checked today but nothing there. However, I have my sim in my new g7 power I bought after LSMA Killed the z3 and I sent it back to Texas. I wonder if WiFi isn't enough and you need a sim to get the update? I'm just gonna use this as a backup phone although the OLED screen was nicer than the g7 power.
J

Last night my daughter checked her z3 play and she got the update. Exact same phone as mine and same carrier. But not me. So pissed and jealous! IDK what their rollout strategy or method is but it blows.
J

Still no update. I keep checking. Did they turn off all future updates when I had to send it back to Texas when their update room booked it erasing the IMEI and disabling Wi-Fi?
J

Got the update yesterday so far no issues

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Is anyone else losing hope we'll see an official lollipop update from at&t?

I've been searching all over and ive found nothing. It's the begining of a new year and I'm starting to think we're not getting a lollipop update anymore..
I always believe all model branded by us carriers will get any update last of all other makes.
Yeah, it's been that way pretty much with every phone I've ever owned. I wish phone manufactures wouldn't allow carriers to intervene. But at least usually an international ROM is ported over to the us models.. I wish someone would do that
I just want it to come so i can get the latest cloudy.
Right. That's the ROM I wanted to use.
Custom Roms.
That's why we use custom roms. The unofficial cyanongen is a good substitute for a lollipop update.
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That's why we use custom roms. The unofficial cyanongen is a good substitute for a lollipop update.
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All you guys need to flash Illusion ... You won't be disappointed I promise.
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All you guys need to flash Illusion ... You won't be disappointed I promise.
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True minus all the LG features
I wish ATT would just chill its just like the wireless charging system stupid to do something else oposed to the international version.
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I've been searching all over and ive found nothing. It's the begining of a new year and I'm starting to think we're not getting a lollipop update anymore..
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Really??? When have you ever known AT&T to let anyone know about an update until it is in process? I think we will get an L update for two reasons. AT&T has always seemed to allow at least one major upgrade of versions and the phone is barely 6 months old.
Besides that, the rollout of L for international G3s started less than 2 months ago. U.S. carriers typically take time to "test" (i.e. install their bloatware and figure out how to lock down the phone) the new updates.
Yeah I'm getting very fed up with all this too... I use liquidsmooth in the meantime and it works great, but I just miss the LG camera... Also other features but mainly the camera... I had the nexus 5 before this phone and I loved the timely updates... Too bad it don't work the same with this phone...
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You guys need to be patient. It will come just sit back and try out some custom ROMs.:thumbup:
Illusion bugs WITH logcats post here : http://tinyurl.com/qzwu9f4 Will help dev out a lot ! Thanks *2SHAYNEZ*
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Really??? When have you ever known AT&T to let anyone know about an update until it is in process? I think we will get an L update for two reasons. AT&T has always seemed to allow at least one major upgrade of versions and the phone is barely 6 months old.
Besides that, the rollout of L for international G3s started less than 2 months ago. U.S. carriers typically take time to "test" (i.e. install their bloatware and figure out how to lock down the phone) the new updates.
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I was being a little over dramatic. I know eventually we'll get an update, but instead of trying to add all that bloat and strip things from the software they should be trying to get it out for the users as soon as possible.
cables2590 said:
Yeah I'm getting very fed up with all this too... I use liquidsmooth in the meantime and it works great, but I just miss the LG camera... Also other features but mainly the camera... I had the nexus 5 before this phone and I loved the timely updates... Too bad it don't work the same with this phone...
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Unfortunately this is the case with all android phones and tablets. The latest and greatest hits the Nexus lines first. Other phones are at the mercy of the phone manufacturer (as well as the carriers in some cases).
With all the custom roms and cm12 for our phone right around the corner. Who needs an official bloated at&t L Rom. Custom roms run so much better than stock anyway. .....and L is good but very over rated K.K. 4.4.4 is working great. Be patient you will get your stock at&t L by the latest March
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Update today I got a notification to update I am ON stock d85010d
I have the phone a week this was my 1 st notification I wonder if this is the 10f or something else I haven't rooted yet. Did anyone else get this today and if so what is it ?
It's 10f I got the notice today as well. If you are rooted it will not break root.
I believe it'll come to us soon but I can care less if the update comes. I'm fine with what were using now.
the only problem with all the Lollipop Roms we currently have is that the camera app sucks, we loose 4K recording, Laser Focus, Slow motion and front facing flash. Plus the quality of the pictures is not even near to the quality of the stock camera.
1cwolf has been rooting the stock roms and tweaking them I am sure he will do the same when L drops. He is making debloated ver also. That's prob what I'll stick with cause the stock Rom does run very good. I always get better WiFi with stock roms more powerfull WiFi signal
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It's 10f I got the notice today as well. If you are rooted it will not break root.
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What size was the 10F update? I am betting that is a small update before lollipop comes in...
let's not forget...the AT&T G2 was one of the first phones to get KitKat. Besides Nexus devices are there any other devices with Lollipop? LG is moving pretty quick to get the international version of Lollipop out. Where is Samsung and HTC with Lollipop for their devices?
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What size was the 10F update? I am betting that is a small update before lollipop comes in...
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10f is 163mb and came out about 2 months ago. It was just a minor update.
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No nougat in US on Honor 8

Didn't receive any updates on honor 8 in The US.. The company lied. Looks like I'll be buying a new phone from a reliable Company.
I just got mine yesterday. FRD-L04 US.
Just be patient, they said mid february.
The updates roll out in batches. I came from nexus devices. Be patient. All manufacturers do this that way if there is a bug, they can shut it down before all phones are screwed...Like Apple iOS updates screw up alot of phones and tablets.
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Didn't receive any updates on honor 8 in The US.. The company lied. Looks like I'll be buying a new phone from a reliable Company.
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Use the firmware finder app, I updated with the app without any issues.
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optima13 said:
Didn't receive any updates on honor 8 in The US.. The company lied. Looks like I'll be buying a new phone from a reliable Company.
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Keep an eye on the receivers' log: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XULbGwxpO0s_RH9EzbvWjLP48MNCz7vkolbT0TiMf7s/edit#gid=0
It's obviously happening right now, but it will take a while to roll out to everyone.
Firmware App
Has anyone tried using the Firmware App? I'm just curious cuz it has the 360 build. I was thinking of trying it out.
Mine keeps bugging me to update when I don't want to.
No phone manufacturer releases the update to every unit simultaneously. That would be killer on their servers, plus if something went wrong there would be no time to correct. Also, the official announcement said the rollout would start 2/11, not everyone would get it 2/11. So no one lied, and switching to another phone maker wouldn't change anything--you still might not get updates the first day. Like you, I am eager to get the update, but it's also important to keep in mind the facts. It helps to limit the frustration.
I updated to Nougat and it sucks. Battery life sucked, ROG doesn't work, can't lock Messenger app with fingerprint...
I rolled back to MM and now i can have my 6hours+ of SoT.
If you wanna take my advice and bear with the ugly notifications menu, do not update to Nougat.
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I updated to Nougat and it sucks. Battery life sucked, ROG doesn't work, can't lock Messenger app with fingerprint...
I rolled back to MM and now i can have my 6hours+ of SoT.
If you wanna take my advice and bear with the ugly notifications menu, do not update to Nougat.
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Right now its kind of buggy,
Maybe i'll revert back MM but nougat UI is beautiful..oh..man.
I agree, the nougat build is really nice! Really liking the stock sms look and notifications. I updated using the Firmware App. Battery seems to suffer a bit but I'll stay on it until the final build is released
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I updated to Nougat and it sucks. Battery life sucked, ROG doesn't work, can't lock Messenger app with fingerprint...
I rolled back to MM and now i can have my 6hours+ of SoT.
If you wanna take my advice and bear with the ugly notifications menu, do not update to Nougat.
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Don't know but I've 7hr+ SOT on Nougat. Can't remember any phone with that high SOT. Also Nougat became more stock-ish with EMUI 5.
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Don't know but I've 7hr+ SOT on Nougat. Can't remember any phone with that high SOT. Also Nougat became more stock-ish with EMUI 5.
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Battery life depends on user's habits.
I personnaly have 3 emails to sync, Messenger, WhatsApp, Pushbullet and other apps that need to sync. My data(4g) is always on. I use Spotify for 1 to 2 hours a day.
All of this takes some juice but for some reason I can get past the 5 hours of SoT on MM without any problems.
On a sidenote, I think that EMUI5 functionality to kill apps when screen is locked is kind of broken.
(Sorry for the off-topic, but these are things that people need to know before upgrading)
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Battery life depends on user's habits.
I personnaly have 3 emails to sync, Messenger, WhatsApp, Pushbullet and other apps that need to sync. My data(4g) is always on. I use Spotify for 1 to 2 hours a day.
All of this takes some juice but for some reason I can get past the 5 hours of SoT on MM without any problems.
On a sidenote, I think that EMUI5 functionality to kill apps when screen is locked is kind of broken.
(Sorry for the off-topic, but these are things that people need to know before upgrading)
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I think you are just impatient. The new EMUI 5 has the smart control built in, and it will take a while to learn to optimize your system based on your use habit. My battery life with screen on was initially 4 hours, but after a night of optimization going on in the background and a couple of reboots following a full charge with the screen turned off for the system to optimize battery performance, my SoT goes to 7+ hours which is much better than EMUI 4. It knows what to close whenever necessary based on my usage history.
Yeah, the ROG is not working, but I don't need it anymore. From my reading, the customizable dpi feature has been available on the Android 7.1.1 based ROM. See here (in Chinese): http://club.huawei.com/thread-11707731-1-1.html
I think it will be available for future EMUI updates.
There is only one thing I haven't figured out is how to show the Huawei Health icon by default in the notification area. If anyone knows, please let me know. Thanks.
For what it's worth... to the people having battery issues: I have been running B360 for two full days and day 2 (today) is/was exponentially better battery-wise than day 1. I was MAD at the end of day 1, I'm rather impressed by the end of day 2.

[RETUS | MOTO Z3 PLAY] New pie build OTA!

I got prompted for another software update today, May 9, 2019
It's build number PPW29.183-29-1
Stability improvements and security patch April 1st 2019
Can anyone with RETUS Moto z3 play also confirm they received this?
Not much has changed. Feels more fluid and stable. And I did notice one thing!! It's got this cute guy.
(See attached screenshot)
Nah, I still don't have the PIE update. I'm RETUS. Motorola Z3 play from Amazon without Alexa.
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I just got a feb security update, hopefully they push pie soon.
I expect pie to be here soon for you guys since it's being pushed out to the MFN
Got the Feb security update yesterday, hopefully pie is close behind.
I'm on US Cellular.
I recieved the Feb Security update yesterday, not realky close to what there website says but im not realky caring much at this point. Id be interested in anything other than Android , its become another tool for the carriers , hokding people at bay for there uodates, making updates more prevalent for the phones the carriers claim are flagship ( more sales)
Does anyone know if ATT has released the update from Moto for Pie?
Yes I got the February security update and so did my daughter. I grow weary of wating for the pie update. I will have second thoughts about buying another Lenovo in the future even though they are a great value. I might be happier with a Google Pixel or similar product that receives updates as soon as they are ready.
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Jcanner said:
Yes I got the February security update and so did my daughter. I grow weary of wating for the pie update. I will have second thoughts about buying another Lenovo in the future even though they are a great value. I might be happier with a Google Pixel or similar product that receives updates as soon as they are ready.
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Thanks for that, i'm checking on that with everyone here for a family member. They also got the security update, and like you are still waiting for the 9.0 update. Could be an ATT thing and not moto/lenovo? Not sure
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Thanks for that, i'm checking on that with everyone here for a family member. They also got the security update, and like you are still waiting for the 9.0 update. Could be an ATT thing and not moto/lenovo? Not sure
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It's not an AT&T thing. I got my Z3 Play retail unlocked and carrier-free, and I'm still waiting (frustrated) for Pie.
Unlock bootloader and install the Pie rom works great. I have an unlocked bootloader and my wife have the original z3 play. We are both on febr. securityupdate android Pie.
I wasn't in a rush, but this is what happened when I updated to Feb patch 28.70-31.12. Then another posted with same. The phone is on its way to Motorola. I just hope my "refurb" will have a new battery because I sure don't need a replacement device that's been out there for nearly a year.
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Thanks for that, i'm checking on that with everyone here for a family member. They also got the security update, and like you are still waiting for the 9.0 update. Could be an ATT thing and not moto/lenovo? Not sure
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its motorola theyve sent the updates to the beta team (aka, motorola feedback network). once motorola feels the updates good, it pushes it out to the devices on the RETUS software channel (all of the USA models), so its not necessarily up to the carrier to provide yall the updates, cause you can get it even if there is no sim card in the phone. its just not quite ready for public release
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its motorola theyve sent the updates to the beta team (aka, motorola feedback network). once motorola feels the updates good, it pushes it out to the devices on the RETUS software channel (all of the USA models), so its not necessarily up to the carrier to provide yall the updates, cause you can get it even if there is no sim card in the phone. its just not quite ready for public release
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After dealing with Moto when it came to updates for my Atrix 4G (scrapped 4.0 update) and Atrix HD (ignored in favor of Razr HD), and then moving away to my J5, i wasn't sure how Moto was running things today. From what you're saying, the update process hasn't changed.
It makes sense what you say, b/c I was able to track down the modern day sbf files for flashing via rsd (script used today was seen back then when presented in a non-sbf format, still flashable via rsd), ended up reading android version 9, with build dates back in feb and march of this year.
I'm not following this closely, just poking around for any news for a family member, but we definitely know that its in MFN testing?
I'm still stuck on the November 1, 2018 update. It even says I'm up-to-date. Any ideas why?
I am bootloader unlocked with Magisk.
Just updated. Z3 Play unlocked.
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Just updated. Z3 Play unlocked.
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OTA?
Yes. OTA. AT&T network. Not sure if that makes a difference.
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This is what I got today, but it is the FIRST ota to hit my phone. It's the Feb 1 security patch that LMSA app couldn't install properly on my phone. The replacement phone came with Jan. 1 patch.
I do hope we get more sightings of RETUS Pie in the wild. I'm returning my sim to my Pixel 3a for a while--at least I get AT&T wifi calling with it. I even get a better phone signal with it.

Hate waiting for Android 9 for Moto G6

Here's the deal: been waiting for android pie on moto g6 for a long time, check for update every time, but nothing comes up. Any suggestions for an angry android user?
MightyAngelo said:
Here's the deal: been waiting for android pie on moto g6 for a long time, check for update every time, but nothing comes up. Any suggestions for an angry android user?
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Install it manually and cut out the middle man. Link.
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I'm frustrated waiting but I'll wait for the official OTA update to arrive.
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Here's the deal: been waiting for android pie on moto g6 for a long time, check for update every time, but nothing comes up. Any suggestions for an angry android user?
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lol, that update destroyed lots of phones, wish i've never installed it...hope i can roll back to android 8 today.
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lol, that update destroyed lots of phones, wish i've never installed it...hope i can roll back to android 8 today.
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You can, just don't flash the gpt.bin or the bootloader.bin files.
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Here's the deal: been waiting for android pie on moto g6 for a long time, check for update every time, but nothing comes up. Any suggestions for an angry android user?
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I also checked for the update every couple days and today was my lucky day, i just updated my moto g6 (verizon) to android pie. Update was about 1.5 Gb and it works perfectly. Really good improvements , the only thing i could complain is that there is not an auto brightness on the quick menu.
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I also checked for the update every couple days and today was my lucky day, i just updated my moto g6 (verizon) to android pie. Update was about 1.5 Gb and it works perfectly. Really good improvements , the only thing i could complain is that there is not an auto brightness on the quick menu.
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I'm on RETUS channel on AT&T in the US. Just got the OTA to 9.0.
Version is PPS29.118-11-1
FYI....My Moto G6 was just notified of OTA Pie update. I'm using it on a Straight Talk plan. Updating as I'm typing this. Fingers crossed
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FYI....My Moto G6 was just notified of OTA Pie update. I'm using it on a Straight Talk plan. Updating as I'm typing this. Fingers crossed
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Is it an original straight talk device or an unlocked version? Just wondering.
It's a Wal-Mart purchased phone. Straight Talk branded. Just a backup phone for me. But getting ready to hand it down to a granddaughter.

upgrade to android 11 or stay on 10

it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
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I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
update to 11 with no second thoughts
Upgrade. No 2nd thoughts about it.
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I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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If it does happen and I seriously doubt it, I'll just reflash with odin and restore my backup. My glass is half full, not half empty. I have friends on other forums running 11 beta on Pixels with no issues.
Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
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Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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LOL. I don't think I lucked out. I think issues with OS updates are far less common than you think. I'd say you are definitely in the minority.
I've been on Android since the original Moto Droid. I've had almost every Moto, LG, Samsung, Nexus, and Pixel. I've been through beta OS updates, official updates, side loaded updates, unofficial ported updates, you name it.
You're going back 5 YEARS and saying because an update broke your favorite application, that Google/Samsung updates too often? Is every update perfect? No, but they certainly don't break everything the way you think they do.
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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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No you are absolutely right. I'm out in Canada and if memory serves me right we got Android 10 at the beginning of January a month or so after the US. It was the years prior that the OS update came out with the S series release. And to your point Samsung has stepped up their game, tremendously. It's right after the Pixels and Oneplus which is not too shabby. And getting faster to boot. No complaints here. :good:
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Thats what I was thinking, but couldn't remember 100%. Unless there's somd major issues, it looks like we're on the same timeline for Android 11, since the beta is already out for the international S20 series. US Note 20 won't be too far behind.
gloege said:
Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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Spot on. What a wrenched mess.
My 10+ is still running well on Pie.
Google is insane to emulate Apple.
I don't think Google will fix it, another Vista.
Probably stay on Pie for the life of this phone and hope Google regains their sphincter control with 12 or 13...
So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.[/QUOTE]
you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it
gloege said:
So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
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you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it[/QUOTE]
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the info i have a few apps i want to get off my lg g4 that are a miss in the android store

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