Hello folks, I am replacing a screen on a S7, Now I managed to take everything apart and noted that there was a slight bend in the Frame.
I am wondering if I should by a new screen with frame or is there a way on bending the frame back in. It is really a small corner that is bend inwards (like the top part of the frame) . I also was thinking if I should use a screw driver to bend back up and then rip it off. Any Advise is welcome!
Bokica17 said:
Hello folks, I am replacing a screen on a S7, Now I managed to take everything apart and noted that there was a slight bend in the Frame.
I am wondering if I should by a new screen with frame or is there a way on bending the frame back in. It is really a small corner that is bend inwards (like the top part of the frame) . I also was thinking if I should use a screw driver to bend back up and then rip it off. Any Advise is welcome!
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You'll never get the frame back to it's original state and the screen won't sit square, which will lead to problems when you touch the screen. It's expensive to buy screen with frame but once fitted you shouldn't have any further issues.
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So I just took out my sensation from the box and noticed the stock screen protector was off set and already peeling back a great amount on the top corner. I looked closely and noticed that the small tab at the top of the screen protector is actually inside the ridge of the phone, in that small thin crack where the front-screen ends. That was what cause the screen protector to not lay flat and started bending inward. I slowly peeled the protector back and when it came to the part that was "stuck" or jammed into the crack it took a good tug (I guess it was the adhesive...or it was really in there) for it to pop out. This couldn't have done any damage right? The small crack leads to nothing does it?
Probably just means it got caught in the gap when being fitted. I assume when you say 'crack' you mean the gap where the screen meets the rest of the body of the phone?
Yeah, where the black part ends.
Also, I have removed it and replaced it on more accurately since then and noticed it sticks to the screen very well, even attaching itself to parts that I have not even smoothed my fingers over yet, must be the static? Are there any disadvantages in using this as opposed to buying a new screen protector?
If it works then continue using it. We don't get them pre-fitted in the UK so I bought a 3rd party one
edit: delete this thread please mod thank you
Why would you ever care if you damage the screen while taking it out since you're probably replacing it anyway? I have no clue. But I thought I would give it a try, and now i'm sharing.
So I managed to remove the screen and the frame without breaking anything (granted the screen wasn't working already)
i.imgur.com/cpKVP
What I did was cut off little strips from a credit card or any sort of plastic card. Then heated only the back side of the frame. I figured if I tried heating the screen from the front, the glass and screen adhesive might start separating. Then I worked the strips in between the frame and screen through the holes in the frame.
i.imgur.com/iql8z
You might be wondering why there are places ground down on the frame... I'll get to that...
Just worked at that for probably an hour constantly reheating. Just unsticking the adhesive from the back of the screen and the frame. I finally managed to be able to fit a card in through the bottom.
i.imgur.com/kuDuP
Then I just used that to unstick the rest of the adhesive.
Now, about why a lot of the frame has grinding marks. I have the Verizon GS3, but I broke the old screen. I found a water damaged sprint gs3 on craigslist for $100. so I figured I would see if it would fit, and if it didn't I could sell the screen for maybe 200-250 on ebay. It didn't fit, not perfectly... but I really didn't feel like waiting for it to sell. So instead, I made it fit, I almost got it perfect, and it all worked just perfectly when I had it all together. But I wanted it to fit perfectly, so naturally, on my last attempt, I ground down a little too far and nicked part of one of the ribbon cables. So I figured I'd try taking it apart without breaking it... If anybody has any suggestions on how to fix the ribbon, feel free to say something!
i.imgur.com/MN9Fl
how bad did you butcher the ribbon? you could maybe try circuitwriter conductive pen to draw the contacts back. http://stcwk.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-repair-broken-ribbon-cable.html
I got the S3 like 3 days ago, and earlier today it just slide out of my pocket when i was crouched, (I know, i placed an order on a case 2 days ago but thought i would be careful around the house with the phone til than) , Crack lower right corner, do you think you could seperate the glass/digitizer from the lcd screen? to just replace the glass/digitizer http://i46.tinypic.com/5lyx41.jpg
The pen might be worth a try. As for separating the glass from the screen, it's possible, but I really wouldn't recommend it. Just because of how the screen is manufactured, there is a film of glue between the front glass and the screen, it would be impossible to glue it back together without leaving bubbles in between, so it would look way worse than just the little bit of cracked screen you have.
Hello,
After changing the screen of my moto G, the new one is no longer stuck and is moving.... I had to remove the original glue (tape?) with an hair dryer.
My question is : with what I then paste the screen?
thanks a lot
Phil77560 said:
Hello,
After changing the screen of my moto G, the new one is no longer stuck and is moving.... I had to remove the original glue (tape?) with an hair dryer.
My question is : with what I then paste the screen?
thanks a lot
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This is a very annoying problem of the chinese displays that come with a frame or pre-applied tape.
The display+lcd assembly is too heavy to be held by any normal 2-sided tape (3M 300LSE for example).
After hours of checking how the original thing was made it turned out that it has a rubber-like gasket that is glued to the frame, which acts as bonding surface for the 2nd glue used to hold the digitizer to the frame.
These are all my own findings, sadly no pne is discussing this problem anywhere or at least I didn't find any.
I've used a transparent epoxy (65-70% resin ~30-35% oxidizer so the compound hardens slower).Use a wooden tooth pick to apply the glue on the frame, don't put to much of it, just a hair-thin line.
Put the screen on and press it well and be ready to clean off any glue that may come out of the edges. The epoxy is easy to clean until it's set, use isopropyl alcohol 99% or some dry contact cleaner with a cotton cloth or kitchen paper.
The drawback of using epoxy is once it's set, you won't be able to remove the screen from the frame by any viable means.This is not a problem tho, since you can buy the whole assembly, should you need to replace the screen again.
Good luck.
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Thanks a lot for your tip.
I'm gonna look for epoxy and try to do as well as you
Thank a lot once more
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Hi,
Thank you very much for having shared your experience with us .
I have exactly the same issue with my Moto G and I've finally found a way out thanks to you. I would try this but I'm afraid of doing it bad. Should I apply the glue exactly in the border of the display? Do you happen to have any video showing it in detail?
Have a nice day
birikif said:
Hi,
Thank you very much for having shared your experience with us .
I have exactly the same issue with my Moto G and I've finally found a way out thanks to you. I would try this but I'm afraid of doing it bad. Should I apply the glue exactly in the border of the display? Do you happen to have any video showing it in detail?
Have a nice day
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Hello,
You should apply the glue in the frame, as close as possible to the outer rim and spread it as much as possible on the thin inner lining where the plastic of the frame and the glass make contact.
You can also use universal transparent glue, like JIP or Henkel... etc.These glues are a bit more liquidish and it takes more time to set properly, but they are also more flexible and you can also remove the display with heat, should you have the need to .
Sorry no videos available on this, but with a little effort and reading you'll be fine.
liveroy's advice is great. I've followed it with success, although the screen I bought has the dreaded phantom touch issue (cheap ebay job!) and will have to go back (this issue was apparent even before I glued it to the mid-frame).
Firstly I separated the screen from the mid-frame with two small suction cups, designed for removing halogen light bulbs, on the top and bottom of the glass. This worked well, but I had to use very gentle tugs to ensure I didn't tear the ribbon cable. Because the double-sided tape used was already separating, this was quite an easy part of the job.
I used Araldite 2-Tubes Standard Epoxy, because it has a very long cure time, which allowed me to work slowly. With the screen and mid-frame completely separate and cleaned up, I then threaded the screen's ribbon cable through the hole before glueing. The trickiest bit was putting the epoxy along the frame where the ribbon cable is; to do this I just wedged some folded paper between frame and screen while I layed down the epoxy. I guess I could have just done this bit first and avoided the need for a paper wedge (this was used to prevent prematurely sticking the screen to the frame before all the epoxy's down).
I used the screen's plastic film to protect the screen from the epoxy, and cleaned the excess epoxy with an old bottle of disk head cleaner I found lying about (smelt very alcoholly!) and cotton buds. I used some clothes pegs to clamp the screen to the frame, but I took them off after a few hours. Then I left it for a couple of days. The result was as good as I could have hoped for. I can see a little bit of the dried epoxy in the very narrow trenches between the mid-frame and glass, but this doesn't bother me. Way better than having light streaming through the sides, and it seems like a really solid grip! When in use and getting warm I could still see a bit of lift at the sides, but because it was glued there was absolutely no gap.
Going back to the original need for this fix -
On my phone I believe this is due to a warped, concave logic board, effectively peeling the glass away from the mid-frame when fitted. If it were totally flat then I doubt this would happen. I guess the aftermarket screen manufacturers didn't factor this in when they decided to use "weak" double-sided tape. I've also noticed that, with the new screen in place, the outer back shell of the phone, that you put on last, doesn't quite fit at the bottom like with the old screen - there is now a small a gap where the inner plastic housing is exposed. I think this is because the new mid-frame is straighter than the old, and the old shell has itself bent over time.
Hi,
I'm happy to found this thread. It's the second screen i replace on my Motorola Moto G4 Plus because of this; you can view my comment here : https://www.witrigs.com/oem-lcd-screen-assembly-for-motorola-moto-g4-plus-black#customer-reviews
I will try to use super glue on the top of my screen, hope it'll work. EDIT 20190122 : it worked (be careful to not add too much glue like i did : it was covering camera when pressing !)
Thanks
Alright, I did send sms on my bicycle which resulted in I did drop the phone on the ground. Luckily I had ad NILLKIN glass screen protector, which did save most of the phone . I have ordered a new Nillkin screen protector from Aliexpress. And I hope to patch up this phone so it looks good again. How would you have done ?
As you can see at the bottom in the pictures there is physically damage, you can you see the screen bleeding thru also the huwawei logo is damaged.
My idea is UNDER the NEW Nillkin screen protector I will try to mask these "holes" so the screen is not beelding thru anymore. What material should I use to patch up these holes.. also.. how to repar the logo ? can I print it out on my computer printer ? it might look **** on paper but UNDER the glass protector it might look a lot better.
All creative ideas are appreciated, I have high hopes the phone will look good again..
And hopefully my phone will surrive until the M8 release.
Just to let you know desipite the glass look damaged like this the phone is still fully functional!!
ouch i can feel with you.
How about some black film, black paper or everything else that is black and thin
Yes some black material for sure.. Black film would be perfect in guess.. Just wonder where to get it also some black glue at the sides also..
Maybe you can find a front replacement? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Front-O...-Parts-For-Huawei-Ascend-Mate-7-/201270995814
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Re...s-Lens-For-Huawei-Ascend-Mate-7-/141549809429
Don't put a huawei printed logo there lol it will look bad and cheap.
alexre123 said:
Maybe you can find a front replacement? - http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Front-O...-Parts-For-Huawei-Ascend-Mate-7-/201270995814
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Re...s-Lens-For-Huawei-Ascend-Mate-7-/141549809429
Don't put a huawei printed logo there lol it will look bad and cheap.
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Nice man might be a very good alternative! But how easy is it to change it really?
Do I need a heat gun for that?
Don't know. I don't advise to do it yourself , just go with the phone to any service, I'm sure they know how to do the operation. Or maybe you have an huawei service near you.
Or...if you have the courage go for it ) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDiaQOzCvfE & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUl8dCuhBGw
Joke man, don't do it yourself if you don't have experience
alexre123 said:
Don't know. I don't advise to do it yourself , just go with the phone to any service, I'm sure they know how to do the operation. Or maybe you have an huawei service near you.
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I have done some smartphone repair myself, I changed the USB board on my old Galaxy Note 1.
I bought a smartphone repair kit with a few tools and very small screwdrivers. To change the glass is probably not much harder, but I need to know if I need a heat gun since I do not own any yet Hopefully it is not needed..but I would assume so...
I might also add the reason I bought a screen protector was that the original glass underneeth have a small crack too that goes accross the entire screen but it s quite invisible besides from certain angels.. so to change that screen to would actually be amazing..and it would make the secondary value when I sell this when M8 is released be a lot higher..
I think you need one. Look at the second yt movie at 22:34. Have an hair dryer?
https://meta.ifixit.com/Answers/View/3523/Using+a+hairdryer+instead+of+a+heat+gun
Hair Dryer vs Heat Gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ELHDYjpLoc
If I was me I would go with the phone to a service. Anyway good to know Nilkin tempered glass do the job, I have one also on my screen
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I think you need one. Look at the second yt movie at 22:34. Have an hair dryer?
https://meta.ifixit.com/Answers/View/3523/Using+a+hairdryer+instead+of+a+heat+gun
Hair Dryer vs Heat Gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ELHDYjpLoc
If I was me I would go with the phone to a service. Anyway good to know Nilkin tempered glass do the job, I have one also on my screen
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Yes the Nillkin glass did its job but I think I was unlucky, that the bottom of the phone got under my bicycle tire.. it felt like it...
I recommend Nillkin, IT has very good Oleophobic coating, which makes the whole device a lot more enjoyable to use, but be careful whren you put it on non 100% straight surfaces it will slip onto the floor.
Alright it is more or less decided I will buy a new front cover with glass, I will make sure to get original parts with gorilla glass. Since the ebay link you linked to are chipped from china I guess I can just order straight from alixpress instead...
I have heard singapore post have quite fast shipping compared to china post.
just one question is hard to see in the videos.. but do I really need to disassembly every component all the circuits boards just to change the front screen ? do I need to open the case at all when using the heat gun/hair dryer ?
If as in the every component and circuit board has to be disassembled it is over my competence probably... unless I am super careful..
Mutch better if you want to purchase an original front to replace it. Don,t know if you really need to take all the components of for replacing the front screen, but you can make some research on it or you can ask on other forums, maybe are others with more experience.
yes I understand..must decide tomorrow then.. because of shipping times a fast decision need to be made otherwise I will have to wait too long..
blackinfinity said:
yes I understand..must decide tomorrow then.. because of shipping times a fast decision need to be made otherwise I will have to wait too long..
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Man I was repairing the whole Mate7 from the scratch!
If u shattered the screen ;
1.You will need new one which cost £40-£60 2.You will have to strip the WHOLE phone which is pain!
3.You will have to open the back cover,which is very hard process.You will need hard force to pop back cover from hinges.(first you need to remove small bottom cover which is plastic.)You will have to pry it underneath is adhesive which holds that small cover firmly.
4.Once you manage to remove back cover you have to disconnect all flex cables.There are 3 black screws and 4 chrome screws(smae like two at bottom) which holds motherboard.
There is small black cover which covers all connectors and it is tricky to remove it,because left side is kind of locked under chrome metalic cover plate! You need to pry it slightly to the right to flip it upwards.Be careful! One black screw holds that small black plate!
Once you remove the motherboard, another and very very hard part awaits you!
5.Removing the battery!
You will need heat gun to remove battery but even that heat gun might ot help you to remove BIG battery without damage !!
I tried to remove battery without damage but no luck.So I will advise you to buy new battery for mate7 mine cost me just £8 from china but I had to wait almost a month to deliver! Disaster shipping from china!
So if you apply lot of heat you might be lucky remove battery without damage.
But I was scared to apply too much heat on battery it could result in explosion or fire!!!
So I rather purchased one.
Once you remove battery, you can remove bottom part of phone which is usb board with speaker and plastics. It is up to you you dont need to remove it.
6.Removing the damaged screen from (middle) supporting frame!
This can be easy depends how screen is damaged. BUT
Here you have 2 options to replace screen.
A:You can buy screen without supporting frame which is harder and more work and heat gunning around the screen and prying screen from middle frame.Needs like 30-40 seconds of heating around the screen not in the middle.
B:You can buy s reen with middle frame which is very easy.Screen is already fited in frame so you dont need to mess with very slim adhesive srtips around the screen(which I done)
Then you will have to remove all parts from middle frame. Ear speaker ,loud speaker usb board and replace it to new housing.
Once you will set the new screen you can put all parts back together..
Replacing screen for this phone is PAIN!
It really needs skills and be careful because it is very easy to scratch back cover.
XDADEVX said:
Man I was repairing the whole Mate7 from the scratch!
If u shattered the screen ;
1.You will need new one which cost £40-£60 2.You will have to strip the WHOLE phone which is pain!
3.You will have to open the back cover,which is very hard process.You will need hard force to pop back cover from hinges.(first you need to remove small bottom cover which is plastic.)You will have to pry it underneath is adhesive which holds that small cover firmly.
4.Once you manage to remove back cover you have to disconnect all flex cables.There are 3 black screws and 4 chrome screws(smae like two at bottom) which holds motherboard.
There is small black cover which covers all connectors and it is tricky to remove it,because left side is kind of locked under chrome metalic cover plate! You need to pry it slightly to the right to flip it upwards.Be careful! One black screw holds that small black plate!
Once you remove the motherboard, another and very very hard part awaits you!
5.Removing the battery!
You will need heat gun to remove battery but even that heat gun might ot help you to remove BIG battery without damage !!
I tried to remove battery without damage but no luck.So I will advise you to buy new battery for mate7 mine cost me just £8 from china but I had to wait almost a month to deliver! Disaster shipping from china!
So if you apply lot of heat you might be lucky remove battery without damage.
But I was scared to apply too much heat on battery it could result in explosion or fire!!!
So I rather purchased one.
Once you remove battery, you can remove bottom part of phone which is usb board with speaker and plastics. It is up to you you dont need to remove it.
6.Removing the damaged screen from (middle) supporting frame!
This can be easy depends how screen is damaged. BUT
Here you have 2 options to replace screen.
A:You can buy screen without supporting frame which is harder and more work and heat gunning around the screen and prying screen from middle frame.Needs like 30-40 seconds of heating around the screen not in the middle.
B:You can buy s reen with middle frame which is very easy.Screen is already fited in frame so you dont need to mess with very slim adhesive srtips around the screen(which I done)
Then you will have to remove all parts from middle frame. Ear speaker ,loud speaker usb board and replace it to new housing.
Once you will set the new screen you can put all parts back together..
Replacing screen for this phone is PAIN!
It really needs skills and be careful because it is very easy to scratch back cover.
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ehhm... good luck OP
XDADEVX said:
Man I was repairing the whole Mate7 from the scratch!
If u shattered the screen ;
1.You will need new one which cost £40-£60 2.You will have to strip the WHOLE phone which is pain!
3.You will have to open the back cover,which is very hard process.You will need hard force to pop back cover from hinges.(first you need to remove small bottom cover which is plastic.)You will have to pry it underneath is adhesive which holds that small cover firmly.
4.Once you manage to remove back cover you have to disconnect all flex cables.There are 3 black screws and 4 chrome screws(smae like two at bottom) which holds motherboard.
There is small black cover which covers all connectors and it is tricky to remove it,because left side is kind of locked under chrome metalic cover plate! You need to pry it slightly to the right to flip it upwards.Be careful! One black screw holds that small black plate!
Once you remove the motherboard, another and very very hard part awaits you!
5.Removing the battery!
You will need heat gun to remove battery but even that heat gun might ot help you to remove BIG battery without damage !!
I tried to remove battery without damage but no luck.So I will advise you to buy new battery for mate7 mine cost me just £8 from china but I had to wait almost a month to deliver! Disaster shipping from china!
So if you apply lot of heat you might be lucky remove battery without damage.
But I was scared to apply too much heat on battery it could result in explosion or fire!!!
So I rather purchased one.
Once you remove battery, you can remove bottom part of phone which is usb board with speaker and plastics. It is up to you you dont need to remove it.
6.Removing the damaged screen from (middle) supporting frame!
This can be easy depends how screen is damaged. BUT
Here you have 2 options to replace screen.
A:You can buy screen without supporting frame which is harder and more work and heat gunning around the screen and prying screen from middle frame.Needs like 30-40 seconds of heating around the screen not in the middle.
B:You can buy s reen with middle frame which is very easy.Screen is already fited in frame so you dont need to mess with very slim adhesive srtips around the screen(which I done)
Then you will have to remove all parts from middle frame. Ear speaker ,loud speaker usb board and replace it to new housing.
Once you will set the new screen you can put all parts back together..
Replacing screen for this phone is PAIN!
It really needs skills and be careful because it is very easy to scratch back cover.
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Hello and thanks, I appreciate your detailed instructions.
But I need to say one really IMPORTANT THING
IT IS NOT THE SCREEN THAT I NEED TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL SCREEN AND LCD IS WORKING PERFECTLEY WHAT I NEED TO CHANGE IS THE Front Screen Outer Glass Lens. i HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT IF I ONLY CHANGE THIS I DO NOT NEED TO DO ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS YOU DO SINCE I AM ONLY CHANGING THE GLASS NOT THE ACTUAL SCREEN, IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCREEN AND OUTER GLASS AND FRONT. I HOPE YOU WILL READ MY POST AND GIVE ME AN UPDATE BEFORE I PUSH THE BUY BUTTON THANKS!
This is the part I was going to order it is just the glass no lcd screen.
blackinfinity said:
Hello and thanks, I appreciate your detailed instructions.
But I need to say one really IMPORTANT THING
IT IS NOT THE SCREEN THAT I NEED TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL SCREEN AND LCD IS WORKING PERFECTLEY WHAT I NEED TO CHANGE IS THE Front Screen Outer Glass Lens. i HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT IF I ONLY CHANGE THIS I DO NOT NEED TO DO ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS YOU DO SINCE I AM ONLY CHANGING THE GLASS NOT THE ACTUAL SCREEN, IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCREEN AND OUTER GLASS AND FRONT. I HOPE YOU WILL READ MY POST AND GIVE ME AN UPDATE BEFORE I PUSH THE BUY BUTTON THANKS!
This is the part I was going to order it is just the glass no lcd screen.
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Sorry but you are like 10 year old child..
So u wanna change your ''front Screen Outer Glass Lens'' ??? (that is damn long name for glass )
You have so much hopes ? OK .. go on .. I leave you to it ..
I wish you very best of luck ..
''''IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCREEN AND OUTER GLASS AND FRONT''
DDDDDD this was so funny :laugh: :good:
Fingers :fingers-crossed:
You was talking about changing the lcd not only the front Glass. I just wanted to make sure you need to do all the instructions to change only front glass. The lcd is working..
blackinfinity said:
You was talking about changing the lcd not only the front Glass. I just wanted to make sure you need to do all the instructions to change only front glass. The lcd is working..
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And I will give you one last advice ; that my detailed post above I explained you how difficult it is .. YOU want to change glass only ??
And what you think, you can just do it without stripping phone apart ?? Are you magician ? You would have to open phone anyway !
And replacing glass on your screen, do you have any idea how you gonna do it? Removing glass from LCD is x10 TIMES hard that my instructions above man !
So you basically adding even more, harder work to hard work ..!
Do you even have
1.LCD separator heat machine ??
2.Cutting line wire ??
3.Cleaning alcohol chemicals ??
4.Optical clear adhesive glue ??
5.Ultraviolet curing lamp ??
Come oon man ...
I told you I wish you very best of luck..
This guy want to do the exact same thing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8HNBtl9MwI
You have the all process here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDiaQOzCvfE & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUl8dCuhBGw
Take a look and decide if you want do it yourself and risk to mess things up or go with the phone and the replacing part to a service and let someone who did this before.
Can somebody help me. I need to buy a new middle frame bezel for my a51 and the ones online on amazon appear to be missing the big black thing that attaches to the front middle half way to the top. I don’t know what is or where to find one. When the bezel is attached it will sit by the right side of the main power cable to sub. Thanks I tried replacing my screen reattached the phone. And accidentally glued that piece and pulled it apart after reddissasmbling.