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Self dust-repair gone a bit wrong. Can you help me?

Hi xda, so I got tired of having dust under my screen and decided to try to fix this myself, I used many disassembly videos and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479734&highlight=dust as guides, initially I didnt open my phone completely, and used a hair dryer to heat and loose the glue, I guess that wasnt enough, then I finally separated the glass from the screen and procedeed the cleaning, everything good.
Then when I pushed the glass and realized there was a little space between the glass/lcd and the plastic frame (look at pic), tried to put the back cover in again and noticed the right side of the phone, the plastic one was kinda lifted and barely fitted my back cover again, reopened and realized this (look at pic) it seems that the main frame and plastic frame (pic again) got a bit separated, when I was trying to lift the glass i heard some cracks there, I tried pushing it gently but I dont want to damage the lcd, next thing im gonna do is disassemble it completely and hit gently the lifted side of the frame with a hammer so it fits flush again, before doing this, Do you have any sugestion or advice? Has this happened to you?
Also since I dont have a proper heat gun and I'll be using a hair dryer I would thank you if you know and can tell me what areas of the lcd are glued to the main frame, pic attached, if you know you could use paint to point them.
Im a bit worried about the tension the phone is getting with the cover on, I hope only the main frame is getting it... as the phone is pushed to its side (0.5-1mm maybe) I cant plug my headphones and i get slightly worse overall signal. Thank you in advance for any help.

Dom42 said:
Hi xda, so I got tired of having dust under my screen and decided to try to fix this myself, I used many disassembly videos and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479734&highlight=dust as guides, initially I didnt open my phone completely, and used a hair dryer to heat and loose the glue, I guess that wasnt enough, then I finally separated the glass from the screen and procedeed the cleaning, everything good.
Then when I pushed the glass and realized there was a little space between the glass/lcd and the plastic frame (look at pic), tried to put the back cover in again and noticed the right side of the phone, the plastic one was kinda lifted and barely fitted my back cover again, reopened and realized this (look at pic) it seems that the main frame and plastic frame (pic again) got a bit separated, when I was trying to lift the glass i heard some cracks there, I tried pushing it gently but I dont want to damage the lcd, next thing im gonna do is disassemble it completely and hit gently the lifted side of the frame with a hammer so it fits flush again, before doing this, Do you have any sugestion or advice? Has this happened to you?
Also since I dont have a proper heat gun and I'll be using a hair dryer I would thank you if you know and can tell me what areas of the lcd are glued to the main frame, pic attached, if you know you could use paint to point them.
Im a bit worried about the tension the phone is getting with the cover on, I hope only the main frame is getting it... as the phone is pushed to its side (0.5-1mm maybe) I cant plug my headphones and i get slightly worse overall signal. Thank you in advance for any help.
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I wanted to try it myself, but didn't have the guts. Sorry to hear your problem.
The guide said "5. Clean off all the crappy double sided tape from the factory."
It seems to me that you have put the same double tape. I suggest you remove the LCD again, clean the old tape and apply a new one.
Good Luck!
Edit: Does your touchscreen work well?

elvisypi said:
I wanted to try it myself, but didn't have the guts. Sorry to hear your problem.
The guide said "5. Clean off all the crappy double sided tape from the factory."
It seems to me that you have put the same double tape. I suggest you remove the LCD again, clean the old tape and apply a new one.
Good Luck!
Edit: Does your touchscreen work well?
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Dont be afraid of trying, i was also scared at first but bah, 1. There's no official htc support in my country 2. I dont trust repair houses. 3 I wont wait 2-4 weeks for something relatively easy. So why dont try by yourself?
"Clean off all the crappy double sided tape from the factory" I dont have double sided tape at hand right now, getting it in 2 days, however thats not the problem, the glass sits flush and tight even with the old tape, the problem is that as i said my phone somehow got wider and the back cover is hard to put. Thanks, im gonna need good luck.
Oh and yes my touchscreen works perfectly.

Dom42 said:
Dont be afraid of trying, i was also scared at first but bah, 1. There's no official htc support in my country 2. I dont trust repair houses. 3 I wont wait 2-4 weeks for something relatively easy. So why dont try by yourself?
"Clean off all the crappy double sided tape from the factory" I dont have double sided tape at hand right now, getting it in 2 days, however thats not the problem, the glass sits flush and tight even with the old tape, the problem is that as i said my phone somehow got wider and the back cover is hard to put. Thanks, im gonna need good luck.
Oh and yes my touchscreen works perfectly.
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There's no HTC support in my county either. Maybe it got wider because of the heat. Even though the glass sits tight I suggest you change the old tape, cause that's what let dust in the first place. The guide said also smth about silicon, did you apply it?
Was it difficult to remove the LCD with the hairdryer? I don't have a heatgun.
LOL, seems I'm the one doing the questions now.

elvisypi said:
There's no HTC support in my county either. Maybe it got wider because of the heat. Even though the glass sits tight I suggest you change the old tape, cause that's what let dust in the first place. The guide said also smth about silicon, did you apply it?
Was it difficult to remove the LCD with the hairdryer? I don't have a heatgun.
LOL, seems I'm the one doing the questions now.
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No it didnt got wider because of the heat, when i was trying to open it i forced the bezel/metal main frame (4th pic) so it unclipped. Getting the double tape tomorrow. No way im gonna put silicon, ill put just 4 tiny squares of doublesided tape, i would rather clean it monthly than that, also i keep it always clean, it just had the dust before (second hand).
Yes, it was very difficult to remove the LCD, dont even try this without a heatgun, i was lucky to not mess something else duh i even crushed the LCD cable a bit, but it works normally. Only solution now is to get a new main frame.

Dom42 said:
No it didnt got wider because of the heat, when i was trying to open it i forced the bezel/metal main frame (4th pic) so it unclipped. Getting the double tape tomorrow. No way im gonna put silicon, ill put just 4 tiny squares of doublesided tape, i would rather clean it monthly than that, also i keep it always clean, it just had the dust before (second hand).
Yes, it was very difficult to remove the LCD, dont even try this without a heatgun, i was lucky to not mess something else duh i even crushed the LCD cable a bit, but it works normally. Only solution now is to get a new main frame.
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Thanks for the advice. I hope you manage to fix your phone

Cheap Screen,is it good?

Guys i just scratched my screen.I found some cheap replacements for 25eur.
Did someone try them already ?
I think someone asked this question already but i can't find that topic.Thanks.
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yes i asked that very question , the counterparts are okay didn't have a problem with them.
but buy them with front casing , it's hard to glue them back together , sometimes they don't fit completely due to the residue you probably missed on the front casing some parts of it become higher than the other parts which really bothered me.
If you're going to buy it glass only , be really careful.
Counterparts are not so scratch resistant as the originals.
One wrong move with the razor blade and it's scratched for good.
You would need a heatgun or blowdryer. I used blowdryer.
After heat treatment the original digitizer stops working for some reason.
So you're stuck with the replacement.
Don't ever remove the front screen protector layer before finishing up the work.
If you don't have double sided tape then use a flexible adhesive like shoe glue but i highly recommend double sided tape. I didn't have beautiful results with shoe glue... It bonded allright but i screwed up the casing with the excess glue i tried to remove.
Also , dust is a real problem. Everytime i did it there was some dust in it. I hated it.
You need an air compressor pistol to work it out.
Blowdryer always leaves some in.
And there's the issue of 4 capacitive keys and their backlight.
If you kill the ribbon that's blocking the light out of the screen , the screen is going to be lit up like christmas and you won't be able to see anything.
If you kill that tape , be sure to replace it with a reflective tape.
Take it from someone who knows , don't lose the crystal things that focus the light to the keys. Otherwise you won't be able to even look at the screen. those leds are really bright...
All in all i did it , but wasn't satisfied with the results went to ebay and bought it with frame.
Now , i'm quite happy...
Hope , i helped.
Cheers!

Thank you for your post, it's great!I will order one with frame then.It's too risky to try to replace it with one without frame because if I don't do it right, i will need to wait a lot for another one (Serbia sucks when it comes to buying stuff online ) .Once again thank you so much for your info.
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No problem at all.
If you have a problem changing it , i can always guide you through it.
Though it's fairly simple with a frame.
Don't order them seperate.
Just don't apply force and you should be fine.

glue for screen ?

Hello,
After changing the screen of my moto G, the new one is no longer stuck and is moving.... I had to remove the original glue (tape?) with an hair dryer.
My question is : with what I then paste the screen?
thanks a lot

Phil77560 said:
Hello,
After changing the screen of my moto G, the new one is no longer stuck and is moving.... I had to remove the original glue (tape?) with an hair dryer.
My question is : with what I then paste the screen?
thanks a lot
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This is a very annoying problem of the chinese displays that come with a frame or pre-applied tape.
The display+lcd assembly is too heavy to be held by any normal 2-sided tape (3M 300LSE for example).
After hours of checking how the original thing was made it turned out that it has a rubber-like gasket that is glued to the frame, which acts as bonding surface for the 2nd glue used to hold the digitizer to the frame.
These are all my own findings, sadly no pne is discussing this problem anywhere or at least I didn't find any.
I've used a transparent epoxy (65-70% resin ~30-35% oxidizer so the compound hardens slower).Use a wooden tooth pick to apply the glue on the frame, don't put to much of it, just a hair-thin line.
Put the screen on and press it well and be ready to clean off any glue that may come out of the edges. The epoxy is easy to clean until it's set, use isopropyl alcohol 99% or some dry contact cleaner with a cotton cloth or kitchen paper.
The drawback of using epoxy is once it's set, you won't be able to remove the screen from the frame by any viable means.This is not a problem tho, since you can buy the whole assembly, should you need to replace the screen again.
Good luck.

:good:
Thanks a lot for your tip.
I'm gonna look for epoxy and try to do as well as you
Thank a lot once more

same issue
Hi,
Thank you very much for having shared your experience with us .
I have exactly the same issue with my Moto G and I've finally found a way out thanks to you. I would try this but I'm afraid of doing it bad. Should I apply the glue exactly in the border of the display? Do you happen to have any video showing it in detail?
Have a nice day

birikif said:
Hi,
Thank you very much for having shared your experience with us .
I have exactly the same issue with my Moto G and I've finally found a way out thanks to you. I would try this but I'm afraid of doing it bad. Should I apply the glue exactly in the border of the display? Do you happen to have any video showing it in detail?
Have a nice day
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Hello,
You should apply the glue in the frame, as close as possible to the outer rim and spread it as much as possible on the thin inner lining where the plastic of the frame and the glass make contact.
You can also use universal transparent glue, like JIP or Henkel... etc.These glues are a bit more liquidish and it takes more time to set properly, but they are also more flexible and you can also remove the display with heat, should you have the need to .
Sorry no videos available on this, but with a little effort and reading you'll be fine.

liveroy's advice is great. I've followed it with success, although the screen I bought has the dreaded phantom touch issue (cheap ebay job!) and will have to go back (this issue was apparent even before I glued it to the mid-frame).
Firstly I separated the screen from the mid-frame with two small suction cups, designed for removing halogen light bulbs, on the top and bottom of the glass. This worked well, but I had to use very gentle tugs to ensure I didn't tear the ribbon cable. Because the double-sided tape used was already separating, this was quite an easy part of the job.
I used Araldite 2-Tubes Standard Epoxy, because it has a very long cure time, which allowed me to work slowly. With the screen and mid-frame completely separate and cleaned up, I then threaded the screen's ribbon cable through the hole before glueing. The trickiest bit was putting the epoxy along the frame where the ribbon cable is; to do this I just wedged some folded paper between frame and screen while I layed down the epoxy. I guess I could have just done this bit first and avoided the need for a paper wedge (this was used to prevent prematurely sticking the screen to the frame before all the epoxy's down).
I used the screen's plastic film to protect the screen from the epoxy, and cleaned the excess epoxy with an old bottle of disk head cleaner I found lying about (smelt very alcoholly!) and cotton buds. I used some clothes pegs to clamp the screen to the frame, but I took them off after a few hours. Then I left it for a couple of days. The result was as good as I could have hoped for. I can see a little bit of the dried epoxy in the very narrow trenches between the mid-frame and glass, but this doesn't bother me. Way better than having light streaming through the sides, and it seems like a really solid grip! When in use and getting warm I could still see a bit of lift at the sides, but because it was glued there was absolutely no gap.
Going back to the original need for this fix -
On my phone I believe this is due to a warped, concave logic board, effectively peeling the glass away from the mid-frame when fitted. If it were totally flat then I doubt this would happen. I guess the aftermarket screen manufacturers didn't factor this in when they decided to use "weak" double-sided tape. I've also noticed that, with the new screen in place, the outer back shell of the phone, that you put on last, doesn't quite fit at the bottom like with the old screen - there is now a small a gap where the inner plastic housing is exposed. I think this is because the new mid-frame is straighter than the old, and the old shell has itself bent over time.

Hi,
I'm happy to found this thread. It's the second screen i replace on my Motorola Moto G4 Plus because of this; you can view my comment here : https://www.witrigs.com/oem-lcd-screen-assembly-for-motorola-moto-g4-plus-black#customer-reviews
I will try to use super glue on the top of my screen, hope it'll work. EDIT 20190122 : it worked (be careful to not add too much glue like i did : it was covering camera when pressing !)
Thanks

Screen replacement

Has anyone already buy a screen replacement foe your moto x play? I broke my screen a few days ago.. i've ordered the replacement on ebay and the seller says the design it's like the original.

Yeah I did and replaced it. What I noticed is that the glue on the very thin black frame that attaches to the screen does not go back on after you have taken it off with a heat gun. Also, be very careful while performing the step of separating the frame from the screen the frame breaks all too easy. Most repair guides don't show you that step as they show the part that has the frame attached to it. Another tip is make sure that you take your time removing the components while using the heat gun... Patience really does pay off. Good luck.

joeanca said:
Yeah I did and replaced it. What I noticed is that the glue on the very thin black frame that attaches to the screen does not go back on after you have taken it off with a heat gun. Also, be very careful while performing the step of separating the frame from the screen the frame breaks all too easy. Most repair guides don't show you that step as they show the part that has the frame attached to it. Another tip is make sure that you take your time removing the components while using the heat gun... Patience really does pay off. Good luck.
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Oohh i think you only replaced the screen.
I ordered the screen + lcd + frame do i still need a heat gun? And does the screen looks and feels the same? Thanks for the answer!

Yup thats what I did. It does feel the same and looks the same.
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Neperpika said:
Oohh i think you only replaced the screen.
I ordered the screen + lcd + frame do i still need a heat gun? And does the screen looks and feels the same? Thanks for the answer!
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I also ordered the full kit including the frame.
The display is on par with the original one. Only problem with mine is that the screen glass isn't glued perfectly to the frame/display on both sides on top. You can see the lcd backlight shining through a bit if you view the device from the side.
Fixed it with a back cover ^^
The replacement process isn't that easy, you should have time and good light. A heat gun (or hair dryer) will help as you need to get the battery and the logic board unglued.
Another essential tool will be a high quality Torx T3 screwdriver. The little screws are quite sensible and the cheap china tools will do nothing but destroy them.
With a steady hand and a bit of luck it can be done. :good:
Edit: This video was quite helpful. It's in german but most of the video content speaks for itself.

can anyone suggest me which adhesive should i use for screen replacement[ouer glass only]. beter if anyone can provide me indian site links but any name suggestion will also work.

my front glass has scattered,display and touch are fine.I have ordered front glass only in amazon.
https://www.amazon.in/Front-Replace...92209&sr=8-5&keywords=moto+x+play+front+glass
can we replace it without damaging display or touch. Thanx in advance

ViShNu ViZz said:
my front glass has scattered,display and touch are fine.I have ordered front glass only in amazon.
https://www.amazon.in/Front-Replace...92209&sr=8-5&keywords=moto+x+play+front+glass
can we replace it without damaging display or touch. Thanx in advance
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Bro let me tell u one thing, before buying this glass contact a repair shop and make sure that he will be able to replace it,
Replacing the glass is very tough job to do, it requires a lot of experience, you can even check videos on YouTube about changing the glass.
If the mechanic agrees and is sure he will be able to change glass then only try to buy it.
And don't try to change it by yourself at home cuzz it needs special equipment to replace it.
Good luck
Hit thanks if I helped you

[email protected] said:
Bro let me tell u one thing, before buying this glass contact a repair shop and make sure that he will be able to replace it,
Replacing the glass is very tough job to do, it requires a lot of experience, you can even check videos on YouTube about changing the glass.
If the mechanic agrees and is sure he will be able to change glass then only try to buy it.
And don't try to change it by yourself at home cuzz it needs special equipment to replace it.
Good luck
Hit thanks if I helped you
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i watched couple of youtube videos but its about completely changing display(touch,display,front glass)

ViShNu ViZz said:
i watched couple of youtube videos but its about completely changing display(touch,display,front glass)
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I think this is what u r looking for
https://youtu.be/zEI6tYIVtl4

ViShNu ViZz said:
i watched couple of youtube videos but its about completely changing display(touch,display,front glass)
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and did u made it?
the linked vid above is for a moto x, no play, but guess its the same. anyone knows what kind of glue he is putting between the screen and digitizer?

yes bro the xplay will be same like that and don't do that yourself because the process should be done by a professional mechanic... i asked some mobile repairing shop and he said it will charge 1500 to change the glass so i decided to change it what about you?

I've replaced mine successfully.
Although it's "OEM", I have noticed quality issues.
The screen is very sensitive to pressure (Distorts when touching screen) and white spots towards the top of the display are noticeable under white pixels.
I believe something is pressing into thee back of my screen but I ain't touching it until I recieve my replacement earpiece.
Pretty modular phone, 3.5 jack, battery, NFC, earpiece and buttons are easily replaceable.
Just be very cautious when putting your phone back together, don't do what I did and just squeeze it all back together in a rush.

Anyone changed the housing/bezel

Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..

russy23 said:
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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Your best bet for a guide to follow that also has images is on the following link.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Samsung_Galaxy_S5
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russy23 said:
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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No, it isn't if you've never done this before.
Reasons are the next:
1. The risk to damage LCD-assembly is very high.
2. The risk to buy a non-suitable bezel (middle frame, or "rear case" how Samsung calls this part) is very high. They are different for different variants of S5 and contain different main antennas inside gray plastic.

Your best bet is to wait for a crack in the screen. You're also gonna screw up the adhesive around the screen and you could literally break keys underneath (no backlight anymore)
Unless you can pop in a nail and try to lift up the screen yourself... as it happens when device is old.
As of now new Original screen is around 100€, which is one of the best display today.

I'll just stick a case on and be done with it..just get a new charge port cover and that'll do..haha

I just installed a new charger port cover. Cost me $3.50 and took 5 minutes to install.. If you really want to change the bezel do a google search on how to do it.. There are plenty of videos which will show you the steps..

russy23 said:
Just got the s5 from a family member..great phone..the bezel is chipped quite heavily .. the replacement part seems cheap enough but I don't know if it's worth the risk..maybe just case it up and be done with it..
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after watching several instructional videos on how to disassemble my s5, i realized its not worth it. they water-proofed the crap out of it with multiple layers of adhesive. using a heat gun to soften the glue is a pain, and can also damage the components.

if you use some kind of very soft heat gun and a "sucker" while sliding in a small credit card, you can do it. it is all about being delicate...

The bad thing to replace the bezel frame is that you have to unmount the whole phone, and at last remove the screen. It's glued to the frame with an adhesive band and it's very difficult to remove it without breaking it. And probably you'll need a new adhesive to mount it again to the frame, otherwise parts of the screen will remain elevated from the bezel.
And it's very easy to break the AMOLED screen connector between the mainboard and the screen if you don't know where it is. First, you'll have to watch several youtube vids to get to know how to disasemble the phone and where the connector is.
And if you dare to replace it and you fail, there're cheap alternatives like this: https://lltrader.com/collections/s5/products/samsung-galaxy-s5-display-assembly-no-frame but it's not an original AMOLED, it's a LCD and very fragile, keep it in mind.