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What do you guys think? Should we still use AutoKiller with Fresh Toast? I've tried it with installed and without and can't see much of a difference. Is there any pros/cons? If you do like it, what do you think is the best settings for very stable settings with good battery life? Speed is not the most important if it kills my battery.
I do not personally like Autokiller.
Gave me alot of browser closes, and seemed to kill apps that I didnt want killed at the time.
Im much better off with the compcache, and just using my taks killer (ATK) as needed. With the overclocking and JIT, my performance issues are slim to none.
So you use ATK, but not automatically? Ive read all articles that say not to use a task killer, but I was using Quick Sytem Info and saw that my memory was down to 30mb and I was very laggy. I used the task killer built in and it would speed everything up. I just don't like the idea of a task killer always working. Any other input?
Yeah, I just set up the widget on my home screen.
There are certain apps I put on the ignore list, just a few though.
I don't believe that killing apps and then making them re-open is a big battery drain. Or if it is, Id rather have a slightly higher energy consumption than my phone run like crap all the time.
I mean just on boot, there are <15 apps open... doing nothing. After a fresh boot my avaialble memory drops to >40MB. After a good kill, Im back into the 70s.
The only thing I have on my ignore list are things like "KeepScreen", Music player (mixzing), pandora, SetCPU, and ShaketoWake(my alarm clock)
everything else gets killed.
Like... after browsing the web for a while, I like to kill the browser because its a HUGE memory hog. Yes it takes an additional 3 seconds to open the browser when I use it... say... 2-3 hours later but that's not a big deal to me. The increased performance and no lag when I send a text message is.
Make sense? Sorry, I'm on pain killers right now so I'm a bit loopy haha.
I have a problem.I use stock GB 2.3.6 by samsung,CF root,CWM.
I use lancher 7 and strangely even if i hit "CLEAR RAM" button my mem consumption will be 350 mb on an avg.
Some times if i run high mem consumption games the games just shutters and my phone will restart and Battery will go <20%.
PLZ tell me a solution for reducing mem usage
I if i go ADVANCED TASK MANAGER there will be long list apps opened.
harsharip said:
I have a problem.I use stock GB 2.3.6 by samsung,CF root,CWM.
I use lancher 7 and strangely even if i hit "CLEAR RAM" button my mem consumption will be 350 mb on an avg.
Some times if i run high mem consumption games the games just shutters and my phone will restart and Battery will go <20%.
PLZ tell me a solution for reducing mem usage
I if i go ADVANCED TASK MANAGER there will be long list apps opened.
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first of all android's memory management is different. There are mainly 2 reasons when u observe that ur memory is heavily consumed.
1. You are doing heavy multitasking.
2. Android itself minimise apps when it feels that its un-necessarily using resources.
I will suggest u to use some light weight launchers like adw launcher. Also use tweaks, ram script, uc kernel. I hope it will help u.
plz
vishal24387 said:
first of all android's memory management is different. There are mainly 2 reasons when u observe that ur memory is heavily consumed.
1. You are doing heavy multitasking.
2. Android itself minimise apps when it feels that its un-necessarily using resources.
I will suggest u to use some light weight launchers like adw launcher. Also use tweaks, ram script, uc kernel. I hope it will help u.
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By using UC kernel will there be improvement in performance
harsharip said:
By using UC kernel will there be improvement in performance
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ya surely...!
You can also try Samsung Andreline Tweaks or Acid Tweaks!
They keep the RAM free. Or, Try a custom ROM with MANY in-built tweaks
or u can use OS MONITOR app to check for running applications n kill them manually
exctngdude said:
or u can use OS MONITOR app to check for running applications n kill them manually
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They use MORE RAM than anything else
bangalorerohan said:
You can also try Samsung Andreline Tweaks or Acid Tweaks!
They keep the RAM free. Or, Try a custom ROM with MANY in-built tweaks
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Where are these tweaks available
Sent from my GT-I9003
bangalorerohan said:
They use MORE RAM than anything else
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it uses the most CPU, not RAM.
go to options n sort by memory
vishal24387 said:
first of all android's memory management is different. There are mainly 2 reasons when u observe that ur memory is heavily consumed.
1. You are doing heavy multitasking.
2. Android itself minimise apps when it feels that its un-necessarily using resources.
I will suggest u to use some light weight launchers like adw launcher. Also use tweaks, ram script, uc kernel. I hope it will help u.
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Even if i dont even use maps.When i find in the list of running apps there are 5 map applications running.How can i close
harsharip said:
Even if i dont even use maps.When i find in the list of running apps there are 5 map applications running.How can i close
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do u know which apps are running in the background which are not used by u?
post them here.
u can freeze them in titanium backup. then defrost(unfreeze) them whenever u want to use them.
Yes or no?? Ive had my tab for almost two weeks now and when i have a couple apps open it gets bogged down and reboots. Im pretty sure its because its run out of memory. Thoughts??
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7+
I do not think that your problem is the system running out of memory. Android will automatically kill unused apps and free up memory when needed. I use the memory widget of GoLauncher EX and notice that as soon as the available ram goes below 100 mb or so, if I open a new app, the widget will actually show an increased memory.
I believe the problem is in the apps themselves, rather than in their memory request.
P_
Definitely a big help. I keep a one click widget on my home screen and tap it whenever I'm near it. has quite the visible effect when homescreen scrolling goes from somewhat laggy to perfectly smooth by hitting the button
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
Entropy512 said:
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Thats what i was looking for! Thanks!!
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7+
I agree with entropy, and if you do end up using one, don't be obsessive about killing apps constantly. Killing apps you frequently use can negatively effect your battery life.
Sent from my GT-P6210 using Tapatalk
There is a task manager in your mini app tray.
Hi,
A have na copy of Galaxy S5 and he use 4.4.2 android version,uut he use a lot of RAM.
Clean master widget show always between 92-98%..
How to reduce it?
He have 1GB of ram.
TheNerko said:
Hi,
A have na copy of Galaxy S5 and he use 4.4.2 android version,uut he use a lot of RAM.
Clean master widget show always between 92-98%..
How to reduce it?
He have 1GB of ram.
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Check for background apps and launchers taking up too much RAM, use Nova instead of the stock one if it's running a copy of TouchWiz as that may take up a lot.
Free ram is waste ram. The point is your device should not lag. That only happens when you totally run out of ram. I would suggest you to use greenify for hibernating useless apps. It will save both your battery and ram.
Huh...
I think you should uninstall some wasting apps.
Here is photo of installed apps...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qulefw25zokguxn/Screenshot_2014-10-08-20-27-01.png?dl=0
And I always stop some apps in app manager..
And sometimes is lag felt...usually when I return to Home screen...
Is anyone noticing any strange memory behavior since the pie update?
Today I saw my free memory under the recents screen drop to 400mb
Not sure if the update lets the P20 pro better utilize it's 6gb but I was not doing anything out of the ordinary
I'm running lawn chair launcher (latest play store version) and everything else is stock
Also I've noticed that Android now uses 1.9-2.5 gb ram
Looking forward to see what you all experience
Actually using memory is not a memory leak.
novastar1 said:
Is anyone noticing any strange memory behavior since the pie update?
Today I saw my free memory under the recents screen drop to 400mb
Not sure if the update lets the P20 pro better utilize it's 6gb but I was not doing anything out of the ordinary
I'm running lawn chair launcher (latest play store version) and everything else is stock
Also I've noticed that Android now uses 1.9-2.5 gb ram
Looking forward to see what you all experience
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havent see any weird behaviour in 9.0.168,
my free memory still ranging between 1-3GB like before
otonieru said:
havent see any weird behaviour in 9.0.168,
my free memory still ranging between 1-3GB like before
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Looks back to normal today
Didn't do anything different
Will keep an eye on it
no problems here and i got like 3+ gb ram left after use
Before update, i used to have 4 gb free memory.
But now, 3 gb
draligus said:
Before update, i used to have 4 gb free memory.
But now, 3 gb
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https://www.androidpit.com/ram-management-on-android
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draligus said:
Before update, i used to have 4 gb free memory.
But now, 3 gb
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i suggest you to install magisk and install swap torpedo module as well,
on our 6GB system, memory swap will only causing lag. especially if there is any app that havent fully optimised for android pie leaking memory, triggering the system to do paging
So, we should not take free memory into consideration
draligus said:
So, we should not take free memory into consideration
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at least thats what google said/campaigning,
but sometimes my OCD'ness just can't resist the urge to press the clean button just to see the recent page empy (clean), LOL
This is what I was referring to
Is this normal
Android 2.9 gb
See attachment
novastar1 said:
This is what I was referring to
Is this normal
Android 2.9 gb
See attachment
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Now up to 3.0gb
Edit
Seems other phones are affected as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/essential/comments/a7y7by/_/
Is this only me?
dreszczyk said:
Actually using memory is not a memory leak.
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This is true but I'm emui 9 on honor play and it now kills rocket player (music player) when it's playing music in the background and there's no way to protect apps from this. 400megs free? Show me where the ram is being used where the recent tasks list is empty.
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This is true but I'm emui 9 on honor play and it now kills rocket player (music player) when it's playing music in the background and there's no way to protect apps from this. 400megs free? Show me where the ram is being used where the recent tasks list is empty.
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allow app to run in background in "app launch" setting
dreszczyk said:
Actually using memory is not a memory leak.
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otonieru said:
allow app to run in background in "app launch" setting
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That's the default for all apps.
Seems that this was due to the swipe left for Google now in lawn chair
Turned it off... Looks like lots of ram for cache now
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That's the default for all apps.
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using auto meaning system can decide to override the setting when it feel needed, thus it still killable if you left it as auto
otonieru said:
using auto meaning system can decide to override the setting when it feel needed, thus it still killable if you left it as auto
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No, I previously tried manual, plus I just tried it again now. It makes sense that there's no difference as by opting for manual control but leaving the 3 options the same as before why would one expect different behaviour. I think the fact that this option is located in the battery option's page demonstrates that this is about limiting how apps are launched, so as to save battery. What I want is the opposite - keep an app in memory no matter what. The music player is playing music as a background task, so it's being treated like a browser you've not used for 4 hours. I want an app which is playing music in the background to be treated like an app where the UI is visible and never, ever, ever killed for any reason. There are no settings which allow you to do this. Furthermore, it's annoying that the phone is showing 777megs of ram free. Something is using the other 3.3 gigs of ram but on no screen can I find any figures which I can sum to get close to this value, so it's like the OS itself is using it as a cache. Fine, no point in not using ram, but it seems that with the launcher showing (ie no apps have the display) it has the full ram available for background tasks.
The only other thing I could try is to not use nova launcher. I'm not confident this would make any difference, and even if it did I don't like the idea that I have to choose between a decent UI or the ability to play music.
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No, I previously tried manual, plus I just tried it again now. It makes sense that there's no difference as by opting for manual control but leaving the 3 options the same as before why would one expect different behaviour. I think the fact that this option is located in the battery option's page demonstrates that this is about limiting how apps are launched, so as to save battery. What I want is the opposite - keep an app in memory no matter what. The music player is playing music as a background task, so it's being treated like a browser you've not used for 4 hours. I want an app which is playing music in the background to be treated like an app where the UI is visible and never, ever, ever killed for any reason. There are no settings which allow you to do this. Furthermore, it's annoying that the phone is showing 777megs of ram free. Something is using the other 3.3 gigs of ram but on no screen can I find any figures which I can sum to get close to this value, so it's like the OS itself is using it as a cache. Fine, no point in not using ram, but it seems that with the launcher showing (ie no apps have the display) it has the full ram available for background tasks.
The only other thing I could try is to not use nova launcher. I'm not confident this would make any difference, and even if it did I don't like the idea that I have to choose between a decent UI or the ability to play music.
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you can do that by modifying some .xml in sysconfig folder,
normally we remove whitelist from the xml, but what you would want to do is to adding it instead
otonieru said:
you can do that by modifying some .xml in sysconfig folder,
normally we remove whitelist from the xml, but what you would want to do is to adding it instead
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Thanks for the help (though it's sort of vague - change which .xml file how?). I guess I need root for that, which I've no interest in at the mo.
I've found what might be the setting I'm after, so I'll try for a while both with that setting and with the stock launcher. If I have no problems for a week or so I'll try with that setting and nova launcher. The setting is Settings/Apps/Apps/Special Access/Battery Optimisation/(select an app here - in my case Rocket Player)/Don't Allow.