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[Q] Stock launcher frequently crashes

Hey guys,
I'm not exactly sure on how I should look this up, so I'm sorry if this isn't new.
It's been a while now, actually, nearly since I got the NS, or since I loaded it with apps. I'm running stock everything, 4.1.1.
My problem is: I get frequent crashes of my (stock) launcher, when using an app and tap on the home button. It's more noticeable on a screen that has widgets, because they take a while to appear and to load the content again. But no error windows, just like if the process shuts down when I'm using an app.
I'm almost sure it's a memory management problem, in fact, I don't even know how NS runs JB so well. In this case, I guess there isn't much to do.
Is this a frequent issue? Do you recommend anything? Any alternative launcher that performs as well as the stock and consumes less ram? Any settings that would improve the memory management?
Thanks in advance,

Felipe Ambrosio said:
Hey guys,
I'm not exactly sure on how I should look this up, so I'm sorry if this isn't new.
It's been a while now, actually, nearly since I got the NS, or since I loaded it with apps. I'm running stock everything, 4.1.1.
My problem is: I get frequent crashes of my (stock) launcher, when using an app and tap on the home button. It's more noticeable on a screen that has widgets, because they take a while to appear and to load the content again. But no error windows, just like if the process shuts down when I'm using an app.
I'm almost sure it's a memory management problem, in fact, I don't even know how NS runs JB so well. In this case, I guess there isn't much to do.
Is this a frequent issue? Do you recommend anything? Any alternative launcher that performs as well as the stock and consumes less ram? Any settings that would improve the memory management?
Thanks in advance,
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That's not a crash. It's commonly referred as launcher redraw, and it happens when the launcher is released from the RAM because the RAM is needed for something else. Happens somewhat often with Jellybean on the Nexus S because its meager 512MB of RAM has a hard time coping with user apps + system apps running in the background. Other than making sure as little apps as possible run in the background, there's not much to do.
Most alternative launchers will consume more RAM, so that's not really a solution in itself.

Backround app problem.HELP

I have an Honor 8,chinese version FRD-AL00.(rooted)
The problem is everytime i clear the memory the phone kills the app completely. Ex- the app "messenger" or "whats app" , if i clear them from memory (clear ram on multitask window) i no longer recieve notifications.I have to always leave them opened on the backround.I also tried removing them from battery optimization and it didnt work.

TSS.0 said:
I have an Honor 8,chinese version FRD-AL00.(rooted)
The problem is everytime i clear the memory the phone kills the app completely. Ex- the app "messenger" or "whats app" , if i clear them from memory (clear ram on multitask window) i no longer recieve notifications.I have to always leave them opened on the backround.I also tried removing them from battery optimization and it didnt work.
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Just lock the app on recent apps windows (a little lock sign on upper right corner with x sign). every time you cleaning apps don't swipe that app you don't want kill.

atifnoor1122 said:
Just lock the app on recent apps windows (a little lock sign on upper right corner with x sign). every time you cleaning apps don't swipe that app you don't want kill.
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yeah thats what im actually doing.But i thought maybe someone new a permanent solution for the problem.Or what causes it in the first place.Thank you anyway.

apps killed in the background
TSS.0 said:
I have an Honor 8,chinese version FRD-AL00.(rooted)
The problem is everytime i clear the memory the phone kills the app completely. Ex- the app "messenger" or "whats app" , if i clear them from memory (clear ram on multitask window) i no longer recieve notifications.I have to always leave them opened on the backround.I also tried removing them from battery optimization and it didnt work.
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Man, I am living with this problem for more than half a year. I did find a somewhat tolerable solution - it is not exactly elegant but it might prove helpful. So yes, after playing with every possible parameter in settings , I also came to the conclusion that nothing really helps except keeping these apps minimized in the background. So I decided to just find a way to hide these minimized apps from the "recent apps" so that these don't interfere with my other activity.
Finally, I managed to find one humble app which does exactly that (you won't be able to find it by the name in Google Play, hence I provide the link).
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=comapede.app.versteckeapp
The instructions might not be exactly clear - you have to install the app then access the widgets from your home screen, identify the Hide App widget and drag it on the home screen. At this point you will be presented with the list of all apps on your device and you would need to chose the app you want to hide. After doing so, a widget for this specific app would be created (which looks identically to the app icon but works differently). First, make sure you discard the respective app from the recent apps, then, to enable hiding, every time you launch the app, you need to do it from the created widget (not from the icon). Obviously, you can repeat the action for all other apps you need to hide.
This worked reliably with Nova Launcher on Android 7 (EMUI 5.0) and continues to work after updating to Android 8 (EMUI 8.0). I also have Chinese ROM (not rooted).
As for the reason why this happens - I have no clue. I don't exclude that it is a software bug that is quite rare on honor 8 devices (otherwise I would see more people complaining).
There is an interesting aspect though - while I have been using my FB messenger for a while like this (this was the only way it worked), now I am able to access the app from its native icon and discard it from the recent apps and it still receives messages instantaneously (same about Skype, Viber). (I don't remember if this is related to the update). Yet for other apps, like KinScreen, Light Flow, ACR (Automatic Call Recorder) and many others, if I run the apps from their icons, the moment I discard them from recent apps, they are shut down completely.
Hopefully this works out for your

Axel I said:
Man, I am living with this problem for more than half a year. I did find a somewhat tolerable solution - it is not exactly elegant but it might prove helpful. So yes, after playing with every possible parameter in settings , I also came to the conclusion that nothing really helps except keeping these apps minimized in the background. So I decided to just find a way to hide these minimized apps from the "recent apps" so that these don't interfere with my other activity.
Finally, I managed to find one humble app which does exactly that (you won't be able to find it by the name in Google Play, hence I provide the link).
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=comapede.app.versteckeapp
The instructions might not be exactly clear - you have to install the app then access the widgets from your home screen, identify the Hide App widget and drag it on the home screen. At this point you will be presented with the list of all apps on your device and you would need to chose the app you want to hide. After doing so, a widget for this specific app would be created (which looks identically to the app icon but works differently). First, make sure you discard the respective app from the recent apps, then, to enable hiding, every time you launch the app, you need to do it from the created widget (not from the icon). Obviously, you can repeat the action for all other apps you need to hide.
This worked reliably with Nova Launcher on Android 7 (EMUI 5.0) and continues to work after updating to Android 8 (EMUI 8.0). I also have Chinese ROM (not rooted).
As for the reason why this happens - I have no clue. I don't exclude that it is a software bug that is quite rare on honor 8 devices (otherwise I would see more people complaining).
There is an interesting aspect though - while I have been using my FB messenger for a while like this (this was the only way it worked), now I am able to access the app from its native icon and discard it from the recent apps and it still receives messages instantaneously (same about Skype, Viber). (I don't remember if this is related to the update). Yet for other apps, like KinScreen, Light Flow, ACR (Automatic Call Recorder) and many others, if I run the apps from their icons, the moment I discard them from recent apps, they are shut down completely.
Hopefully this works out for your
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Thank you.Ill try the app or keep them locked on multitask.The most important reason i asked is because i applied for a job and they had sent me an email for an interview.I missed it cuz i hadnt opened gmail.I couldnt care less for games or any other entertaining apps but when it comes to work or more serious stuff then it becomes a problem.Thanks again.

TSS.0 said:
Thank you.Ill try the app or keep them locked on multitask.The most important reason i asked is because i applied for a job and they had sent me an email for an interview.I missed it cuz i hadnt opened gmail.I couldnt care less for games or any other entertaining apps but when it comes to work or more serious stuff then it becomes a problem.Thanks again.
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Yes, this can be really frustrating. For me it has been a series of missed Skype calls, which I happened to discover even after more than a week.

Poor RAM Management on OnePlus 6 6GB RAM

It frequently reloads apps and I'm using stock OxygenOS 5.1.11 but I have been facing this issue in previous versions too. It doesn't even hold 5 apps in memory and redraws few apps every time out of these 5. When I open the Camera app, every app reloads. I'm very dissatisfied with this poor RAM management while my Redmi Note 3 performs better in this category

I'm not sure how many apps mine holds in background, but it's alot. Not sure how many days.. But more than one..
Are you sure you don't have any battery saving apps? I know greenify kills background apps as an example.

I don't have any battery saving apps. My phone is rooted with magisk and it's having an unlocked bootloader. I'm feeling very bad with my phone's performance.

Mine too. But I still don't face this issue.

Do you have the same 6GB RAM variant?

8gb here. 6gb shouldn't be that bad I feel :s

It's worse than a budget mobile

I am sure you can sell it for a good.price and get a budget mobile instead... (I also had a redmi note 3 - and for me the two phones do not compare at all. The redmi is ok - but it is much inferior in all aspects)
Personally I am very pleased with the phone and have no ram issues whatsoever
I use greenify and I regularly (by choice) dump all apps and I still have a very fast experience . Why does it bother you? Does it make your phone slow(er)?

kushal_10 said:
It's worse than a budget mobile
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time for some testing. Do you have any of stock oos battery saving features turned on. like Advance optimization, that is know to kill apps as soon as you leave them.

Oh yes, I have it turned on. I have turned it off now, I'll test it and report!

MrSteelX said:
time for some testing. Do you have any of stock oos battery saving features turned on. like Advance optimization, that is know to kill apps as soon as you leave them.
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No improvement so far, it reloads apps just like before

kushal_10 said:
No improvement so far, it reloads apps just like before
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what mods do you have installed and are you a lite, median, heavy user.
For me, i'm a lite user with less then 80 apps installed. One charge for me last between 3 to 5 days. Thats on Pie beta 2 as well.

Medium user, I generally switch between Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook, Reddit and Gmail. Surprisingly these reload everytime. My battery lasts a full day on LTE.

OOS definitely kills background apps regardless of the available memory.
Go to battery optimization, select the app which you need to keep running in the background, and selct Don't optimize. You shall be able to disable optimization for user apps only(system apps won't be listed).

[Update] I have disabled advanced optimisation and dirty flashed OOS Rom and voila, OnePlus 6 is the speed you need!

Editing build.prop might do the trick

djrocks said:
Editing build.prop might do the trick
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Read one post up

kushal_10 said:
[Update] I have disabled advanced optimisation and dirty flashed OOS Rom and voila, OnePlus 6 is the speed you need!
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Settings - Battery - Battery optimization - (3 dots on the top right) - Advanced optimization
Settings - Advanced - Recent app management
I was having similar issues until I figure out these settings. Was using Nexus/Pixel/HTC before and they don't have such aggressive background controls.
Some apps don't behave well and keep waking up, so I do understand the point of these controls. Personally I choose to do it by my self using apps like Brevent/Greenify so I have more controls.

whizeguy said:
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I edited the file and worked for me..is what I meant

djrocks said:
I edited the file and worked for me..is what I meant
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What should I edit in that file?

Honor 10 LAG here and there after 9 pie update

Some lag in:
scrolling lost calls and calls (very huge lag)
swipe left notifications
swipe right a menu (note application for example)
graphical glitch when exit from software and hardware battery usage
scrolling app notification menu
Most of them gone with performance mode, but none of these was in 8.1, so I reverted back.
Anyone notice these lags?

Hi,
You are not alone. I had the same problems.
Which I did was disable some Huawei system apps including the launcher after installing Nova launcher and Fluid navigation gestures.
Follow this thread for list of app, but remember to see this one for safety. Disabling apps is much safety than uninstalling them.
After doing that, the lag has been almostly gone. You will come back to Android Oreo style multitasking cards and maybe can not use the ultra power saving mode. And, with an option in Fluid now your fingerprint also works as a home button (you still can use the scan function). I choose the option to run app from lockscreen, it helps hide permanently the navigation bar (before that it takes part of second), however the lockscreen clock will be cut parly at bottom.

duanpv said:
Hi,
You are not alone. I had the same problems.
Which I did was disable some Huawei system apps including the launcher after installing Nova launcher and Fluid navigation gestures.
Follow this thread for list of app, but remember to see this one for safety. Disabling apps is much safety than uninstalling them.
After doing that, the lag has been almostly gone. You will come back to Android Oreo style multitasking cards and maybe can not use the ultra power saving mode. And, with an option in Fluid now your fingerprint also works as a home button (you still can use the scan function). I choose the option to run app from lockscreen, it helps hide permanently the navigation bar (before that it takes part of second), however the lockscreen clock will be cut parly at bottom.
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does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.

cacingbesar said:
does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
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That what happened in my phone. You can try.

maRRRco89 said:
Some lag in:
scrolling lost calls and calls (very huge lag)
swipe left notifications
swipe right a menu (note application for example)
graphical glitch when exit from software and hardware battery usage
scrolling app notification menu
Most of them gone with performance mode, but none of these was in 8.1, so I reverted back.
Anyone notice these lags?
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can you tell me how you revert back to 8.1? or share link even i need to revert back.

my COL-L29 hasn't unlocked, yet huawei already stopped the support to give the unlock code. found a way to get that but it cost a decent money (since i choose android because i thought IT WAS FREE TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN PHONE. so far i think only huawei that make this nonsense decision). can i borrow any of your account and the unlock code as well? if anyone could do that i will be very very happy :'')

logitek1994 said:
my COL-L29 hasn't unlocked, yet huawei already stopped the support to give the unlock code. found a way to get that but it cost a decent money (since i choose android because i thought IT WAS FREE TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN PHONE. so far i think only huawei that make this nonsense decision). can i borrow any of your account and the unlock code as well? if anyone could do that i will be very very happy :'')
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STOP crossposting. You are breaking the rules. The same post on 3 threads. READ THE RULES and try using some common sense when asking others for their account data.

Einwod said:
STOP crossposting. You are breaking the rules. The same post on 3 threads. READ THE RULES and try using some common sense when asking others for their account data.
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oh i'm sorry, if didn't do that my post will get ignored everytime. i thought it was okay to ask anyone for their huawei account, as i will open to others if i could get my own code (yes, seriously). becasue i think huawei account isn't a big deal, google account is

cacingbesar said:
does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
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I just moved to Nova and disabled the stock launcher and the performance boost is out of the roof! I'm curious what will the impact of this for the battery life.

Rapid81 said:
I just moved to Nova and disabled the stock launcher and the performance boost is out of the roof! I'm curious what will the impact of this for the battery life.
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Can you explain what you mean by "performance boost"? Higher benchmark score? More fluid operations? Or something else?

cacingbesar said:
Can you explain what you mean by "performance boost"? Higher benchmark score? More fluid operations? Or something else?
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Everything is more fluid than before. Applications starts faster and operates faster. Not experienced any lag since the change. Before that, I had a lot. Never ran any benchmark ever, so I cannot say anything about that.

Rapid81 said:
Everything is more fluid than before. Applications starts faster and operates faster. Not experienced any lag since the change. Before that, I had a lot. Never ran any benchmark ever, so I cannot say anything about that.
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If you said higher benchmark score, I will totally skip it. But since you said a more fluid operations, I will disable that stock launcher very soon.... Thanks a lot for your info.
update after disabling stock launcher :
great news for third party launcher, disabling stock launcher will solve the black/empty recent app.
and yes, its a bit more fluid. how much? I dunno....its just a feeling, no benchmark or any other measurement.

Apps get killed/refreshed

guys, I have an issue here
mine is 6GB ram of 7 Pro
I open only two apps in background, when I switch to another app, the app just refreshed, meaning it was killed, why is that so?
Now I can't multitask because I can barely open few apps and keep it running in background
I'm on latest open beta 1 though
Even when I'm on stable OxygenOS I feel the same issue, anyone ?
Go to settings, developer option and running services
My system shows 3.6GB to around 4GB usage, so much ?

Ben Ling said:
guys, I have an issue here
mine is 6GB ram of 7 Pro
I open only two apps in background, when I switch to another app, the app just refreshed, meaning it was killed, why is that so?
Now I can't multitask because I can barely open few apps and keep it running in background
I'm on latest open beta 1 though
Even when I'm on stable OxygenOS I feel the same issue, anyone ?
Go to settings, developer option and running services
My system shows 3.6GB to around 4GB usage, so much ?
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Set the apps you want running to don't optimize.

Are you on Android Q?
Because there you have to give it some time to adapt to your usage pattern, so that it will make sure your apps are loaded when you usually use them. Worked good for me after a few days.
If you still want to turn off battery optimization:
1. Disable advanced optimization under battery settings.
2. Set your apps to "Don't optimize" in the battery settings.
3. Lock them in the recents menu.

tropical cactus said:
Set the apps you want running to don't optimize.
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hmm does not seem to work
Zocker1304 said:
Are you on Android Q?
Because there you have to give it some time to adapt to your usage pattern, so that it will make sure your apps are loaded when you usually use them. Worked good for me after a few days.
If you still want to turn off battery optimization:
1. Disable advanced optimization under battery settings.
2. Set your apps to "Don't optimize" in the battery settings.
3. Lock them in the recents menu.
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Yes I am on Android 10 latest Beta. Even when Im on stable Pie, same issue...
App will just get refreshed ,the app actually refreshed, meaning the app didnt go back to home page of the app but it refreshes that page, if I have some typings saved there, it refreshes and will not be saved...

Ben Ling said:
hmm does not seem to work
Yes I am on Android 10 latest Beta. Even when Im on stable Pie, same issue...
App will just get refreshed ,the app actually refreshed, meaning the app didnt go back to home page of the app but it refreshes that page, if I have some typings saved there, it refreshes and will not be saved...
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Hmmm that's weird, it does that Everytime? Maybe try a clean install and see if the issue persists if you have no other plans.

Zocker1304 said:
Hmmm that's weird, it does that Everytime? Maybe try a clean install and see if the issue persists if you have no other plans.
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Tried a full factory reset, same issue though, the app won't just keep in background and will be refreshed when I go back to the app I opened, background only few apps like FB Whatsapp IG etc
But I'm sure this is software issue and I wonder if anyone facing such problem ?

I have the same issue with my 6GB Varient.

Ben Ling said:
Tried a full factory reset, same issue though, the app won't just keep in background and will be refreshed when I go back to the app I opened, background only few apps like FB Whatsapp IG etc
But I'm sure this is software issue and I wonder if anyone facing such problem ?
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ul-background-processes-to-save-battery-life/

Seen some hinting that adaptive battery might kill off some apps. Try disabling that
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Guys, I think I found the problem that causes this issue
I tried changing resolution from QHD to FHD and now my apps will stay in background. Tested few rounds and indeed QHD res will kill apps easily even few apps only but FHD can maintain many apps in background
But why though ?

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Ben Ling said:
Guys, I think I found the problem that causes this issue
I tried changing resolution from QHD to FHD and now my apps will stay in background. Tested few rounds and indeed QHD res will kill apps easily even few apps only but FHD can maintain many apps in background
But why though ?
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Interesting. Testing now.

Found this. So far so good: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-notification-fix-works-100.3865551/post-79011366