Yes or no?? Ive had my tab for almost two weeks now and when i have a couple apps open it gets bogged down and reboots. Im pretty sure its because its run out of memory. Thoughts??
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I do not think that your problem is the system running out of memory. Android will automatically kill unused apps and free up memory when needed. I use the memory widget of GoLauncher EX and notice that as soon as the available ram goes below 100 mb or so, if I open a new app, the widget will actually show an increased memory.
I believe the problem is in the apps themselves, rather than in their memory request.
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Definitely a big help. I keep a one click widget on my home screen and tap it whenever I'm near it. has quite the visible effect when homescreen scrolling goes from somewhat laggy to perfectly smooth by hitting the button
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Thats what i was looking for! Thanks!!
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I agree with entropy, and if you do end up using one, don't be obsessive about killing apps constantly. Killing apps you frequently use can negatively effect your battery life.
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There is a task manager in your mini app tray.
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What do you guys think? Should we still use AutoKiller with Fresh Toast? I've tried it with installed and without and can't see much of a difference. Is there any pros/cons? If you do like it, what do you think is the best settings for very stable settings with good battery life? Speed is not the most important if it kills my battery.
I do not personally like Autokiller.
Gave me alot of browser closes, and seemed to kill apps that I didnt want killed at the time.
Im much better off with the compcache, and just using my taks killer (ATK) as needed. With the overclocking and JIT, my performance issues are slim to none.
So you use ATK, but not automatically? Ive read all articles that say not to use a task killer, but I was using Quick Sytem Info and saw that my memory was down to 30mb and I was very laggy. I used the task killer built in and it would speed everything up. I just don't like the idea of a task killer always working. Any other input?
Yeah, I just set up the widget on my home screen.
There are certain apps I put on the ignore list, just a few though.
I don't believe that killing apps and then making them re-open is a big battery drain. Or if it is, Id rather have a slightly higher energy consumption than my phone run like crap all the time.
I mean just on boot, there are <15 apps open... doing nothing. After a fresh boot my avaialble memory drops to >40MB. After a good kill, Im back into the 70s.
The only thing I have on my ignore list are things like "KeepScreen", Music player (mixzing), pandora, SetCPU, and ShaketoWake(my alarm clock)
everything else gets killed.
Like... after browsing the web for a while, I like to kill the browser because its a HUGE memory hog. Yes it takes an additional 3 seconds to open the browser when I use it... say... 2-3 hours later but that's not a big deal to me. The increased performance and no lag when I send a text message is.
Make sense? Sorry, I'm on pain killers right now so I'm a bit loopy haha.
so i'm using an advance task killer (blue icon) and whenever i end all open apps
it tells me "advanced task killer ended "x" apps" but all the apps remain open in the recent app window in their current state..
is there an alternative way to remove the apps from the recent menu all at once?
i'm new to honeycomb..
Get rid of the Task killer imo
baseballfanz said:
Get rid of the Task killer imo
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
avpmusic said:
okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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I use Active Apps & Watchdog to kill apps. Both in the market.
It's a Recent Apps list. Not a running in the background list.
All Android since 1.0 (T-Mobile G1, the first Android phone), there's been a recent app list. You press and hold the Home button. On Android 3.0 for tablets, there is a dedicated button.
In Android 3.1, the recent app list has been extended to more than 5 shown. It's now 14/15
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
Hakizi said:
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
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How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
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How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
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I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
jadesse said:
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
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+1 for this
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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An "app" called Android. Honeycomb caches and/or kills apps on its own. Try it without the killer. Start angry birds, exit and then go back....
So what is a GOOD and FUNCTIONING Task Manager app for the HoneyComb platform? I am using ZDBOX for my Thunderbolt, but it is NOT compatible with HoneyComb.
I use Task Manager to monitor which apps is USING too much battery, not killing them. It's must faster to use this type of app than going to Settings -> Applications and wait for the apps to be listed.
For example, I use ZDBOX in my Thunderbolt and notice that Skype is running in the background ALL THE TIME, using 11 to 25 Mb even when I am not using it for the whole day. Battery life begun to suffer, so I uninstall it.
The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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Hakizi said:
I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
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Must not be playing much flash. That eats it up.
watchdog not only will let you kill apps but tell you if any are overachivers
if things get out of hand press and hold the power button for a clean restart
I think if you go through settings and look for running apps, you can kill them. You app murderer.
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The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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That's why I need a Task Killer: to kill those poor-behaving apps. I don't use the Task Killer very often, though.
For example: I use an app called Flight Track. I don't fly very often, but I do fly more than average (once to twice a month, sometimes none in a month). This app is running in the background ALL the time. But on months I don't fly, I do not need this app to run in the background. So I kill the app and it does NOT start again in the background until I manually start the app.
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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sweetboy02125 said:
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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I'm using Go Launcher. It has a built in task manager that also allows you to lock app so you don't close them by accident. Have my Widget Locker app Locked. Hope this helps also. And I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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+1, well said.
bigfau said:
I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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I think it's in the right section (Themes & Apps).
People check this out...this app increased my cm10 performance considerably...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&hl=en
Tip-try out the aggressive option..fire some reason is not compatible with apex launcher.
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Great... can feel the difference.
I've got trebuchet frozen so apex works perfectly.
This feature is also included in ROM Toolbox. (Don't know if its also available in the free version)
Regarding the feature itself. This configures the out of memory manager/killer. If you set your settings high you will face a reduced multitasking capability, because apps are being closed pretty fast. Also this causes an increased battery drain, like manual task killers, because memory gets "cleaned" more often which causes apps completly reloading. This of course needs more energy then simply bringing an app into foreground.
Not that I want to say anything against the potential performance gain (when memory is free it doesn't need to be cleaned before loading an app), but it's just a note on that task killing stuff for people that did not know that.
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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It's not a dumb question at all. Android uses a different system to manage memory, and does a good job. To get better battery life, look at your settings and turn off automatic syncing, gps, location services, etc. The problem is that not all the time you will have wifi/data. The phone constantly is looking for data and that uses battery as well. You can kill the maps in the task manager, but it might restart itself when you reboot and update the app, and there's no way around this unless you root your phone.
To find the task manager, go into the apps menu, and look for Task Manager. You can completely kill apps from there, but I wouldn't worry about it too much, android does a good job most of the time. For those apps that are stubborn it's good for.
If you don't want to root, try going into settings and then apps. You can disable apps that you might consider "bloatware" such as AT&T apps and youtube, etc.
jazee said:
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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Actually on iPhone you don't just press home, you double click home hold the app when a minus comes up then you close it.wow I never knew how many clueless people could be with an iphone..anyways for the HTC one x you press the capacitive button to the right of home then you swipe up on the app to quit it.Now If you want to permanately remove bloatware/other processes, you have to root the phone ...although juice defender ult is a great app..the one x battery is great for me..even when I was on stock..maybe turn off fastboot( in power settings) turn off all the sound, Screen brightness low, touch settings(vibrate when keys touched..etc).check push notifications manually.. believe me android is more productive in battery life then IOS. Hope I helped. A thanks would be appreciated
Ya, I knew how to close apps in background on iPhone, just didn't explain it right. To bad there's nothing close to Intelliscreen X for Android. Really miss the collapsible notification widgets on the lockscreen. Widgetlock with Tesla Unread Counter is a step in the right direction. I guess with such a small screen the iPhone developers have always been forced to get creative with how the apps use screen space. Those guys at Intelliborn really pulled off an amazing app. Too bad none of the people that have not jailbroken their iPhones can use it.
Battery life is much much better now (still in first 24 hours of usage). Not sure what I had running, but it could have been the Battery Percentage App I downloaded that Carat listed on the Battery "Hogs" list that I uninstalled. Ironic a battery meter would cause much more battery drain. Unfortunately I read than on HTC they have no option to switch to % where other phone do. Haven't used JuiceDefender Plus yet, but maybe that will give me the info. The battery icon is so worthless for knowing "really" how much you have left except for a general estimate.
Oh and THANKS on the swipe up thing. Is there a "must know" guide for "power users" coming over from iOS to Android/Jelly Bean that would tell me more of this stuff. I never would have guessed it and was flip through the apps wondering "how the hell to I close all these?" Still in my first day though. Man this phone is fast.
Well, battery was doing great then I wasn't doing much with phone and could feel it get hot. I watched Battery go from 85-65 in about 30 minutes! I went into Carat and saw high CPU, but you can't see from Carat what is eating the CPU so downloaded Android Task Manager, great app. Used realtime processes report. Of course #1 CPU eater is the Process Monitor itself (only when you are looking at it). But I was seeing the PowerAmp "Service", "Music Enhancer" and "Sound Set" and "HD Widgets" all very active in CPU usage. Wasn't using PowerAmp or HD Widgets. Haven't even used any of the widgets!
Is there something other than carat that will give me an average CPU usage say in the last hour of all the background services and processes so I can determine what's eating the battery in a short period of time - or am I stuck just looking at realtime process info?
It looks like from a brief search PowerAmp service is "normal". I have a HUGE MP3 library of 3000 songs I just synced yesterday - is gradually processing them or something? I also downloaded Neutron Player. Both have excellent sound quality but the Neutron interface is geeky - PowerAmp more like iTunes but I'm an Audiophile so if I have to go to Neutron to avoid this PowerAmp "Service" from eating my battery from time to time I will.
I've been using the app button and the swipe up a lot now to clear out apps - but like iPhone I'm guessing in most cases it doesn't make a huge difference as Android, like iOS sort of sleeps the background apps anyway. Or should I be in the habit of checking and closing background apps not being used? It seems the "services" are what can cause the issue more (other than foreground apps). Still learning. Bare with me.
I'm not a gamer. If there was a setting (without needing root/custom ROM) to underclock the CPU a little, I'd probably take that for more batter life. Seems on the One X+ I'm guessing much of the extra battery capacity is offset by the higher clocked processor! It's probably just a matter of me finishing getting the phone configured the way I want, stop adding apps, then debug the CPU/Battery hogs and uninstall, change settings, or start using JuiceDefender. My guess.
Feel like such a newbie. Found the built-in Android Battery Usage screen. Shows Android Task Manager as using it the most! But I was having the hot temp/battery drain before I even installed that! Second is the Android OS. Third is WL Theme Viewer. That makes sense as that WidgetLock Theme view app created a big database. But the battery drain continued after it was done! Then Sounds Set, HTC Sence, Google Play Store, Carat, HD Widgets. What the hell is HD Widgets doing? So no jump out culprits - except Sound Set seems suspicious!