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Is there an Apps Killer that won't actually KILL the apps you've told it not to?

Using ATM and even if I check an app to not be affected when it cycles to kill, it is still stopped when I use the auto-kill widget. For example, if I'm on a web page before I kill, I'm not there when I bring that browser back up after kill. My mail through Touchdown, also stops checking if I manually kill apps (even though it's included in the "do not kill" list). Is there a better Task Killer that will leave my apps alone if I tell it to?
Using autokill too but it gives significantly less RAM to me that ATM.

taskiller full, it have an ignore list

advanced task killer has an ignore list too and works good for me

qvert said:
advanced task killer has an ignore list too and works good for me
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+1 for advanced task killer.
Keep in mind, tho, android system is still going to kill whatever it wants, whenever it feels necessary (unless the app in question is "locked in memory").

+1 for TaskKiller, but sometimes it uses up 16% or more of the battery in standby. Its not set to do anything on standby and status bar notification and widget are off.

advanced task manager works for me

You have to set a different ignore list for ATM's autokill, which is what the widget is. That's so you can manually kill more apps than are killed automatically. In ATM, choose menu, preferences, applications, and scroll to the auto-end excluded list. Also, set auto-end frequency to 30 mins. Then you will be amazed at how easily it keeps your phone tidy.

Advanced Task Killer
AutoKiller
Auto Memory

I use Taskpanel, my favorite feature is it autokills programs in the autokill list when the screen shuts off.

You best bet is to put your auto killers on the auto kill list.

muncheese said:
You best bet is to put your auto killers on the auto kill list.
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If you're really that concerned about memory use something like AutoKiller with aggressive settings.

System Panel seems awesome... I'm using this now.

your best bet is to not use a task killer. It is not needed for android.

lightforce said:
advanced task manager works for me
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advanced task manager works for me too.

myplague said:
your best bet is to not use a task killer. It is not needed for android.
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+1! My phone has been so much faster and better battery since ditching a task manager!

Zenoran said:
System Panel seems awesome... I'm using this now.
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Just found System Panel also has a convenient "Kill All" X button. Pretty cool.

I've tried all of them; Taskpanel is the absolute winner, especially at battery saving! It turbos your battery life, in my case about 40%; great/ musthave app!!

Switched to Advanced task manager. It allows itself to get killed
TaskKiller was taking up upto 20% of my standby battery!!!

britoso said:
Switched to Advanced task manager. It allows itself to get killed
TaskKiller was taking up upto 20% of my standby battery!!!
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YUP i have purchased Taskiller and Advanced Task manager...Ran both for many weeks with my G1 and Nexus...... Findings are
Big Difference here....Taskiller eats my battery + notice some kind of memory leak where the ram will always be getting lower and lower over a slow 24 to 48 hours.....
Advanced task killer uses no extra battery ... i just check the program a few times a day and when i get done i hit end all and it kills itself...big plus here for saving MUCHO battery...its the BEEEZ neeezzzz for real =-D ........the biggest reason for having one for me is when i reboot i have so many apps that run that dont need to ..so this works well using it like this, along with Juice defender my battery last sooooooo much longer..... for real beez neez i tell ya

Been using taskpanel for like 3-4 months on my ADP1 and now my N1 so I highly recommend it.

Task Managers on android

I have been doing some research on weather task managers are needed on andorid and weather they do more harm than good. And i have come across these articles which i found interesting :
Google and cyanogen saying they are useless and do more harm than good:
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
More articles:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
Some threads with user experiences:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid/5558-do-you-need-task-manager-installed.html
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...854/android-2-1-task-manager-is-one-required/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/43040-task-killer-apps-not-needed.html
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/18334-task-killer-apps-truth.html
I only use task killers to end apps that auto update in the background when i dont want them to (e.g. twitter apps) and leave everything else running. The only other time i use them is to kill non responding apps and my battery and performance are fine. what do you guys think?

I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
I also really miss LMT for using dual gestures to bring up task switcher and also to perform whatever I assigned to it...
That's the only real reason I still use the task killer/manager is to just switch apps.

if you want a lil performance boost with out a task killer [email protected] auto memory manager it actually changes the way android manages it memory and running programs been using it since my g1 its one of my must have apps
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noellenchris said:
I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
I also really miss LMT for using dual gestures to bring up task switcher and also to perform whatever I assigned to it...
That's the only real reason I still use the task killer/manager is to just switch apps.
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I used to do that too until i found these apps on the market
TaskOs - quick and easy task switcher (set as home then choose your home app again)
Quick Desk beta (try it out, hard to explain, awesome though)
Task Switcher - extended version of holding down home button
Multitask Manager - ios4 style task switcher/manager
These are the best ones imo

noellenchris said:
I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
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You probably already know, but just in case. When you hold down the home button, a display a list of your last apps used will pop-up. I use it to switch between open apps and even apps that are not still open.

schoei1 said:
You probably already know, but just in case. When you hold down the home button, a display a list of your last apps used will pop-up. I use it to switch between open apps and even apps that are not still open.
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Matc's doesnt include this, it's found in cm based roms
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Ah crap never mind forgot that came with 2.1 I believe my mistake sorry

Found something worth noting
noellenchris said:
I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
I also really miss LMT for using dual gestures to bring up task switcher and also to perform whatever I assigned to it...
That's the only real reason I still use the task killer/manager is to just switch apps.
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I actually noticed a task switcher that is built-in to the new sense rom on the HTC Desire Z. It's the same as holding on the home button, but it's in the notification window. I noticed it in the "A Closer Look" video at 5:28 minutes. I've been looking for something similar, but can't find any yet.

I've tested them all but always revert back to atk, not for performance but for keeping battery usage low, testing now with nothing running in regards to task managers will report battery usage,
Hd2 with Android I think is more than powerfully enough, don't need to kill tasks for any reason apart from improving battery life,
Do you agree?
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very beautifull app switcher and task killer is <itching thumb> like palm pre. try it...

I havent used a task killer since mvp77 brought it to my attention in the android general section!
I use autokiller which allows me to tell android how aggressive I want it to be other than that I dont like task killers.
as far as battery life I dont really think task killers improve battery life. Though Ive gotten to the point where battery life is so long I am comfortable.
I set my twitter update intervals at like every 2 hours.
Widgets like the engadget ones that constantly scroll drive battery life down.

hazard99 said:
I havent used a task killer since mvp77 brought it to my attention in the android general section!
I use autokiller which allows me to tell android how aggressive I want it to be other than that I dont like task killers.
as far as battery life I dont really think task killers improve battery life. Though Ive gotten to the point where battery life is so long I am comfortable.
I set my twitter update intervals at like every 2 hours.
Widgets like the engadget ones that constantly scroll drive battery life down.
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I've started using autokiller myself.

[Q] phone slowing down after rom install!

So I have had a few roms on my droid 2. liberty 1.5 and the latest fission rom. I notice that after a few weeks of use, the phone starts lagging. I clear cache as much as I can and I always delete tasks that are running that are not being used anymore. Any ideas on what the problem may be? I have clockwork installed and I clear cache from there. Also from titanium backup. Any suggestions?
I am currently running Fission 2.5.7 overclocked to 1.2ghz.
Thank you!

I would recommend downloading the latest fission rom manager application from teamdefuse's website and then installing it on your phone, from there you can download a newer version of fission (fission 2.6.1) and that should speed up your phone. Also task managers can often slow your phone down. I try and make it a priority to not have a lot of un-needed apps installed and just occasionally look through my app drawer and clean it up. Also if you open up the app "spare-parts" (which should be installed by default on fission) you can look at which apps are using up the most memory and battery life.
If you download the app quadrant standards you can run a quick test and it will show a bunch of information about your system and how fast your phone is compared to other phones and other roms.
Other little things that help are using a faster web browser like opera mini, dolphin browser, or dolphin browser mini.
Another thing that helps is removing widgets from your homescreen, I only use one widget on my whole launcher, ClockrEvolution (I'm really minimalist lol).
Overclocking can also use up your battery life and on the DROID 2 overclocking won't really help that much because you can't go that high, if you could go to 1.5 stably that would be a different story
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ljbaumer is correct about the task managers.
Android has a built in automatic task killer that works far better than any one you can get on the market. It will kill apps only when more memory is needed. Android was made to put as many apps in its memory as possible to make your apps load faster. When you kill all your tasks, Android will instantly start loading them back in the memory, which actually slows your phone down and eats up battery life because your making it work harder.
The only reason I keep a task manager on my phone is to kill any app that may freeze or start acting funny. I never kill all tasks on my phone.

Thank you all for your replies. Took them both into consideration and now I have less lag and jitter!
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Task kilers??

Yes or no?? Ive had my tab for almost two weeks now and when i have a couple apps open it gets bogged down and reboots. Im pretty sure its because its run out of memory. Thoughts??
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I do not think that your problem is the system running out of memory. Android will automatically kill unused apps and free up memory when needed. I use the memory widget of GoLauncher EX and notice that as soon as the available ram goes below 100 mb or so, if I open a new app, the widget will actually show an increased memory.
I believe the problem is in the apps themselves, rather than in their memory request.
P_

Definitely a big help. I keep a one click widget on my home screen and tap it whenever I'm near it. has quite the visible effect when homescreen scrolling goes from somewhat laggy to perfectly smooth by hitting the button

Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)

Entropy512 said:
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Thats what i was looking for! Thanks!!
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I agree with entropy, and if you do end up using one, don't be obsessive about killing apps constantly. Killing apps you frequently use can negatively effect your battery life.
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There is a task manager in your mini app tray.

Battery Life - Do I Need These Processes Running

Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.

jazee said:
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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It's not a dumb question at all. Android uses a different system to manage memory, and does a good job. To get better battery life, look at your settings and turn off automatic syncing, gps, location services, etc. The problem is that not all the time you will have wifi/data. The phone constantly is looking for data and that uses battery as well. You can kill the maps in the task manager, but it might restart itself when you reboot and update the app, and there's no way around this unless you root your phone.
To find the task manager, go into the apps menu, and look for Task Manager. You can completely kill apps from there, but I wouldn't worry about it too much, android does a good job most of the time. For those apps that are stubborn it's good for.
If you don't want to root, try going into settings and then apps. You can disable apps that you might consider "bloatware" such as AT&T apps and youtube, etc.

jazee said:
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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Actually on iPhone you don't just press home, you double click home hold the app when a minus comes up then you close it.wow I never knew how many clueless people could be with an iphone..anyways for the HTC one x you press the capacitive button to the right of home then you swipe up on the app to quit it.Now If you want to permanately remove bloatware/other processes, you have to root the phone ...although juice defender ult is a great app..the one x battery is great for me..even when I was on stock..maybe turn off fastboot( in power settings) turn off all the sound, Screen brightness low, touch settings(vibrate when keys touched..etc).check push notifications manually.. believe me android is more productive in battery life then IOS. Hope I helped. A thanks would be appreciated

Ya, I knew how to close apps in background on iPhone, just didn't explain it right. To bad there's nothing close to Intelliscreen X for Android. Really miss the collapsible notification widgets on the lockscreen. Widgetlock with Tesla Unread Counter is a step in the right direction. I guess with such a small screen the iPhone developers have always been forced to get creative with how the apps use screen space. Those guys at Intelliborn really pulled off an amazing app. Too bad none of the people that have not jailbroken their iPhones can use it.
Battery life is much much better now (still in first 24 hours of usage). Not sure what I had running, but it could have been the Battery Percentage App I downloaded that Carat listed on the Battery "Hogs" list that I uninstalled. Ironic a battery meter would cause much more battery drain. Unfortunately I read than on HTC they have no option to switch to % where other phone do. Haven't used JuiceDefender Plus yet, but maybe that will give me the info. The battery icon is so worthless for knowing "really" how much you have left except for a general estimate.
Oh and THANKS on the swipe up thing. Is there a "must know" guide for "power users" coming over from iOS to Android/Jelly Bean that would tell me more of this stuff. I never would have guessed it and was flip through the apps wondering "how the hell to I close all these?" Still in my first day though. Man this phone is fast.

Well, battery was doing great then I wasn't doing much with phone and could feel it get hot. I watched Battery go from 85-65 in about 30 minutes! I went into Carat and saw high CPU, but you can't see from Carat what is eating the CPU so downloaded Android Task Manager, great app. Used realtime processes report. Of course #1 CPU eater is the Process Monitor itself (only when you are looking at it). But I was seeing the PowerAmp "Service", "Music Enhancer" and "Sound Set" and "HD Widgets" all very active in CPU usage. Wasn't using PowerAmp or HD Widgets. Haven't even used any of the widgets!
Is there something other than carat that will give me an average CPU usage say in the last hour of all the background services and processes so I can determine what's eating the battery in a short period of time - or am I stuck just looking at realtime process info?
It looks like from a brief search PowerAmp service is "normal". I have a HUGE MP3 library of 3000 songs I just synced yesterday - is gradually processing them or something? I also downloaded Neutron Player. Both have excellent sound quality but the Neutron interface is geeky - PowerAmp more like iTunes but I'm an Audiophile so if I have to go to Neutron to avoid this PowerAmp "Service" from eating my battery from time to time I will.
I've been using the app button and the swipe up a lot now to clear out apps - but like iPhone I'm guessing in most cases it doesn't make a huge difference as Android, like iOS sort of sleeps the background apps anyway. Or should I be in the habit of checking and closing background apps not being used? It seems the "services" are what can cause the issue more (other than foreground apps). Still learning. Bare with me.
I'm not a gamer. If there was a setting (without needing root/custom ROM) to underclock the CPU a little, I'd probably take that for more batter life. Seems on the One X+ I'm guessing much of the extra battery capacity is offset by the higher clocked processor! It's probably just a matter of me finishing getting the phone configured the way I want, stop adding apps, then debug the CPU/Battery hogs and uninstall, change settings, or start using JuiceDefender. My guess.

Feel like such a newbie. Found the built-in Android Battery Usage screen. Shows Android Task Manager as using it the most! But I was having the hot temp/battery drain before I even installed that! Second is the Android OS. Third is WL Theme Viewer. That makes sense as that WidgetLock Theme view app created a big database. But the battery drain continued after it was done! Then Sounds Set, HTC Sence, Google Play Store, Carat, HD Widgets. What the hell is HD Widgets doing? So no jump out culprits - except Sound Set seems suspicious!