So I have had a few roms on my droid 2. liberty 1.5 and the latest fission rom. I notice that after a few weeks of use, the phone starts lagging. I clear cache as much as I can and I always delete tasks that are running that are not being used anymore. Any ideas on what the problem may be? I have clockwork installed and I clear cache from there. Also from titanium backup. Any suggestions?
I am currently running Fission 2.5.7 overclocked to 1.2ghz.
Thank you!
I would recommend downloading the latest fission rom manager application from teamdefuse's website and then installing it on your phone, from there you can download a newer version of fission (fission 2.6.1) and that should speed up your phone. Also task managers can often slow your phone down. I try and make it a priority to not have a lot of un-needed apps installed and just occasionally look through my app drawer and clean it up. Also if you open up the app "spare-parts" (which should be installed by default on fission) you can look at which apps are using up the most memory and battery life.
If you download the app quadrant standards you can run a quick test and it will show a bunch of information about your system and how fast your phone is compared to other phones and other roms.
Other little things that help are using a faster web browser like opera mini, dolphin browser, or dolphin browser mini.
Another thing that helps is removing widgets from your homescreen, I only use one widget on my whole launcher, ClockrEvolution (I'm really minimalist lol).
Overclocking can also use up your battery life and on the DROID 2 overclocking won't really help that much because you can't go that high, if you could go to 1.5 stably that would be a different story
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ljbaumer is correct about the task managers.
Android has a built in automatic task killer that works far better than any one you can get on the market. It will kill apps only when more memory is needed. Android was made to put as many apps in its memory as possible to make your apps load faster. When you kill all your tasks, Android will instantly start loading them back in the memory, which actually slows your phone down and eats up battery life because your making it work harder.
The only reason I keep a task manager on my phone is to kill any app that may freeze or start acting funny. I never kill all tasks on my phone.
Thank you all for your replies. Took them both into consideration and now I have less lag and jitter!
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What do you guys think? Should we still use AutoKiller with Fresh Toast? I've tried it with installed and without and can't see much of a difference. Is there any pros/cons? If you do like it, what do you think is the best settings for very stable settings with good battery life? Speed is not the most important if it kills my battery.
I do not personally like Autokiller.
Gave me alot of browser closes, and seemed to kill apps that I didnt want killed at the time.
Im much better off with the compcache, and just using my taks killer (ATK) as needed. With the overclocking and JIT, my performance issues are slim to none.
So you use ATK, but not automatically? Ive read all articles that say not to use a task killer, but I was using Quick Sytem Info and saw that my memory was down to 30mb and I was very laggy. I used the task killer built in and it would speed everything up. I just don't like the idea of a task killer always working. Any other input?
Yeah, I just set up the widget on my home screen.
There are certain apps I put on the ignore list, just a few though.
I don't believe that killing apps and then making them re-open is a big battery drain. Or if it is, Id rather have a slightly higher energy consumption than my phone run like crap all the time.
I mean just on boot, there are <15 apps open... doing nothing. After a fresh boot my avaialble memory drops to >40MB. After a good kill, Im back into the 70s.
The only thing I have on my ignore list are things like "KeepScreen", Music player (mixzing), pandora, SetCPU, and ShaketoWake(my alarm clock)
everything else gets killed.
Like... after browsing the web for a while, I like to kill the browser because its a HUGE memory hog. Yes it takes an additional 3 seconds to open the browser when I use it... say... 2-3 hours later but that's not a big deal to me. The increased performance and no lag when I send a text message is.
Make sense? Sorry, I'm on pain killers right now so I'm a bit loopy haha.
With Touchwiz everything was great, but I wanted to try something new with some more flexibility.
I downloaded and installed it. It seems ok but...
Everything is so slow, it takes 10 secs for a program to open up. Never had this kind of lag before.
Is this normal? Did I do something wrong?
Mine runs super smooth. Make sure nothing is running in the background that you don't want running.
I was already rooted. I killed a lot of the junk. I also had nothing running in the background.
badbeats said:
I was already rooted. I killed a lot of the junk. I also had nothing running in the background.
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Hopefully you're not using task killers. They're bad for android.
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No I am not using any task killers. I only you the stock task manger.
Load of rubush all system say you dont need task manager etc but lets face it its a load of crap i have been using a takman on my pulse for months and months i have never had any problems due to taskmanagers i had lots of slow downs before i used a taskmanager.
Yes or no?? Ive had my tab for almost two weeks now and when i have a couple apps open it gets bogged down and reboots. Im pretty sure its because its run out of memory. Thoughts??
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I do not think that your problem is the system running out of memory. Android will automatically kill unused apps and free up memory when needed. I use the memory widget of GoLauncher EX and notice that as soon as the available ram goes below 100 mb or so, if I open a new app, the widget will actually show an increased memory.
I believe the problem is in the apps themselves, rather than in their memory request.
P_
Definitely a big help. I keep a one click widget on my home screen and tap it whenever I'm near it. has quite the visible effect when homescreen scrolling goes from somewhat laggy to perfectly smooth by hitting the button
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
Entropy512 said:
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Thats what i was looking for! Thanks!!
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7+
I agree with entropy, and if you do end up using one, don't be obsessive about killing apps constantly. Killing apps you frequently use can negatively effect your battery life.
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There is a task manager in your mini app tray.
SPEED UP PHONE AND BOOST PERFORMANCE. On the new ics leak.
You must be rooted to do some of these tweeks..
1. Use titanium backup or the app of your choice to freeze or uninstall unwanted or misbehaving apps. You can find a list of apps that come preinstalled (bloatware) that is known to be safe to freeze or uninstall by searching the dev section.
2. Uninstall any and all task killers or task managers. After research I find they do more harm and slow down performance and kill battery life than they help. By freezing or uninstalling misbehaving apps in step one you don't have to worry about apps running in the background eating up your data. And besides ics has a really nice data manager built in.
3. Install apex launcher from the market. I can't explain why but using this launcher with ics instead of the stock tw launcher sped my phone up considerably and totally eliminated that little bit of lag that was in it when exiting apps and scrolling screens. Not to mention apex has a lot of freeking really cool features you can't do with the stock tw launcher. Like add another shortcut icon on the dock bar and the ability to scroll 5 dock bars full of shortcuts you can add. And the home screen allows for another whole row of icons and much much more. But best of it made my phone ALOT FREAKIN FASTER....
BATTERY DRAIN ISSUES.
I found going from gingerbread to ics was a bigger strain on my battery a way bigger strain. So far this trick has helped a lot but I'm still looking for other ways to go with this to improve it even more. So if you have any tricks up your sleeve feel free to post please. So here is what I've found so far...
I used rom manager from the market but I'm sure there are other free apps that can do this again far as I know you need to be rooted to do this...
1. Wipe battery stats. After installing any new rom or even updating an existing you should always wipe battery stats. This helped my phone tremendousley.
2. Find a app that monitors your battery stats. I use badass battery monitory. I don't like the name but it will tell you which apps are draining your battery and allow you to make necasarry changes. There is a free version on the market but I'm using the paid one.
I posted this info I've learned to maybe help someone else. It helped my phone a bunch but each phone is different and what works for one may not for another so I make no guarantees. For info on rooting see the link at the beginning of this thread it worked for me. Anyone that has learned other tweaks please post. And if this is in the wrong section I'm sorry. I just started using the app and not my pc to access xda and I'm trying to figure the app out still which is laid out weird and the search option just plain sux...
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Why spam the forum with this in every section. Just put it in the battery stats thread
Because when I put it one section somebody says no put it there then I put there and someone says no put it there.. geez I put here and I'm trying to figure out how to remove it from the other section so give me a minute
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Wiping stats is a myth
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all of this is known info, and is incorporated i to pretty mch every custom rom. I highly recommend people stay away from. the oneclick ics, but this is still good work op, thanx.
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SPEED UP PHONE AND BOOST PERFORMANCE. On the new ics leak.
You must be rooted to do some of these tweeks..
1. Use titanium backup or the app of your choice to freeze or uninstall unwanted or misbehaving apps. You can find a list of apps that come preinstalled (bloatware) that is known to be safe to freeze or uninstall by searching the dev section.
2. Uninstall any and all task killers or task managers. After research I find they do more harm and slow down performance and kill battery life than they help. By freezing or uninstalling misbehaving apps in step one you don't have to worry about apps running in the background eating up your data. And besides ics has a really nice data manager built in.
3. Install apex launcher from the market. I can't explain why but using this launcher with ics instead of the stock tw launcher sped my phone up considerably and totally eliminated that little bit of lag that was in it when exiting apps and scrolling screens. Not to mention apex has a lot of freeking really cool features you can't do with the stock tw launcher. Like add another shortcut icon on the dock bar and the ability to scroll 5 dock bars full of shortcuts you can add. And the home screen allows for another whole row of icons and much much more. But best of it made my phone ALOT FREAKIN FASTER....
BATTERY DRAIN ISSUES.
I found going from gingerbread to ics was a bigger strain on my battery a way bigger strain. So far this trick has helped a lot but I'm still looking for other ways to go with this to improve it even more. So if you have any tricks up your sleeve feel free to post please. So here is what I've found so far...
I used rom manager from the market but I'm sure there are other free apps that can do this again far as I know you need to be rooted to do this...
1. Wipe battery stats. After installing any new rom or even updating an existing you should always wipe battery stats. This helped my phone tremendousley.
2. Find a app that monitors your battery stats. I use badass battery monitory. I don't like the name but it will tell you which apps are draining your battery and allow you to make necasarry changes. There is a free version on the market but I'm using the paid one.
I posted this info I've learned to maybe help someone else. It helped my phone a bunch but each phone is different and what works for one may not for another so I make no guarantees. For info on rooting see the link at the beginning of this thread it worked for me. Anyone that has learned other tweaks please post. And if this is in the wrong section I'm sorry. I just started using the app and not my pc to access xda and I'm trying to figure the app out still which is laid out weird and the search option just plain sux...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA
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Are you using any battery saving apps?
and also ICS task manager does not do anything when you swipe the apps of, I am using 360 Launcher it's as smooth as ever, it has build in cleaner that brings the memory usage to 29-31% that is with major apps I use excluded from clean. On the other hand not using anything will have your ROM running at about 380M at boot and 450M+ then on after you use something, even after freezing things.
P.S. I agree not using another task killers, but the one in 360 it's just like the build in one in the ROM, when you press clean memory, just has a widget.
! One more suggestion, using System Turner or Rom Toolbox, remove apps from start up, that you don;t need at boot.
When I said task killers of course i meant those you download from the market not the stock one on the phone. Sorry of I confused anyone but I did not remove the stock one but the two I had downloaded and installed from the market. I have rom manager and I'll try that tip thanks and sorry for the confusion
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Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
jazee said:
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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It's not a dumb question at all. Android uses a different system to manage memory, and does a good job. To get better battery life, look at your settings and turn off automatic syncing, gps, location services, etc. The problem is that not all the time you will have wifi/data. The phone constantly is looking for data and that uses battery as well. You can kill the maps in the task manager, but it might restart itself when you reboot and update the app, and there's no way around this unless you root your phone.
To find the task manager, go into the apps menu, and look for Task Manager. You can completely kill apps from there, but I wouldn't worry about it too much, android does a good job most of the time. For those apps that are stubborn it's good for.
If you don't want to root, try going into settings and then apps. You can disable apps that you might consider "bloatware" such as AT&T apps and youtube, etc.
jazee said:
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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Actually on iPhone you don't just press home, you double click home hold the app when a minus comes up then you close it.wow I never knew how many clueless people could be with an iphone..anyways for the HTC one x you press the capacitive button to the right of home then you swipe up on the app to quit it.Now If you want to permanately remove bloatware/other processes, you have to root the phone ...although juice defender ult is a great app..the one x battery is great for me..even when I was on stock..maybe turn off fastboot( in power settings) turn off all the sound, Screen brightness low, touch settings(vibrate when keys touched..etc).check push notifications manually.. believe me android is more productive in battery life then IOS. Hope I helped. A thanks would be appreciated
Ya, I knew how to close apps in background on iPhone, just didn't explain it right. To bad there's nothing close to Intelliscreen X for Android. Really miss the collapsible notification widgets on the lockscreen. Widgetlock with Tesla Unread Counter is a step in the right direction. I guess with such a small screen the iPhone developers have always been forced to get creative with how the apps use screen space. Those guys at Intelliborn really pulled off an amazing app. Too bad none of the people that have not jailbroken their iPhones can use it.
Battery life is much much better now (still in first 24 hours of usage). Not sure what I had running, but it could have been the Battery Percentage App I downloaded that Carat listed on the Battery "Hogs" list that I uninstalled. Ironic a battery meter would cause much more battery drain. Unfortunately I read than on HTC they have no option to switch to % where other phone do. Haven't used JuiceDefender Plus yet, but maybe that will give me the info. The battery icon is so worthless for knowing "really" how much you have left except for a general estimate.
Oh and THANKS on the swipe up thing. Is there a "must know" guide for "power users" coming over from iOS to Android/Jelly Bean that would tell me more of this stuff. I never would have guessed it and was flip through the apps wondering "how the hell to I close all these?" Still in my first day though. Man this phone is fast.
Well, battery was doing great then I wasn't doing much with phone and could feel it get hot. I watched Battery go from 85-65 in about 30 minutes! I went into Carat and saw high CPU, but you can't see from Carat what is eating the CPU so downloaded Android Task Manager, great app. Used realtime processes report. Of course #1 CPU eater is the Process Monitor itself (only when you are looking at it). But I was seeing the PowerAmp "Service", "Music Enhancer" and "Sound Set" and "HD Widgets" all very active in CPU usage. Wasn't using PowerAmp or HD Widgets. Haven't even used any of the widgets!
Is there something other than carat that will give me an average CPU usage say in the last hour of all the background services and processes so I can determine what's eating the battery in a short period of time - or am I stuck just looking at realtime process info?
It looks like from a brief search PowerAmp service is "normal". I have a HUGE MP3 library of 3000 songs I just synced yesterday - is gradually processing them or something? I also downloaded Neutron Player. Both have excellent sound quality but the Neutron interface is geeky - PowerAmp more like iTunes but I'm an Audiophile so if I have to go to Neutron to avoid this PowerAmp "Service" from eating my battery from time to time I will.
I've been using the app button and the swipe up a lot now to clear out apps - but like iPhone I'm guessing in most cases it doesn't make a huge difference as Android, like iOS sort of sleeps the background apps anyway. Or should I be in the habit of checking and closing background apps not being used? It seems the "services" are what can cause the issue more (other than foreground apps). Still learning. Bare with me.
I'm not a gamer. If there was a setting (without needing root/custom ROM) to underclock the CPU a little, I'd probably take that for more batter life. Seems on the One X+ I'm guessing much of the extra battery capacity is offset by the higher clocked processor! It's probably just a matter of me finishing getting the phone configured the way I want, stop adding apps, then debug the CPU/Battery hogs and uninstall, change settings, or start using JuiceDefender. My guess.
Feel like such a newbie. Found the built-in Android Battery Usage screen. Shows Android Task Manager as using it the most! But I was having the hot temp/battery drain before I even installed that! Second is the Android OS. Third is WL Theme Viewer. That makes sense as that WidgetLock Theme view app created a big database. But the battery drain continued after it was done! Then Sounds Set, HTC Sence, Google Play Store, Carat, HD Widgets. What the hell is HD Widgets doing? So no jump out culprits - except Sound Set seems suspicious!