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[WIP] HDMI Development

Hi All,
I am planning on making an app that unlocks the HDMI capabilities of the Evo. However with limited documentation and secretive programmer's manual for the HDMI chip on the Evo, this is almost impossible.
I tired searching for the register reference or programmer's giude for the SiI9024A HDMI chip but found nothing on the web (they only released it to HTC and other manufacturers). If anybody has these documents and would like to see the Evo with full HDMI, please private message/email me these docs or a link to them.
I will use this thread to update on project's progress, link demos and what not.

This is something I've been wanting to see for a while. I don't have any documentation to offer, but once you get something going, let me know if you need any help testing.

Or you could just wait for cm7; talk of the town is that they may have that feature.

Im in
http://www.datasheetdir.com/SII9024A+Video
http://ns.siliconimage.com/docs/SiI-DB-1076-C01_Brief-9022A-24A.pdf
Hope this helps!

http://us.generation-nt.com/silicon-image-low-power-hdmi-transmitter-selected-via-press-1955621.html
This has some email links, maybe some information can be conveniently leaked.

thanks
rrr1986 said:
http://www.datasheetdir.com/SII9024A+Video
http://ns.siliconimage.com/docs/SiI-DB-1076-C01_Brief-9022A-24A.pdf
Hope this helps!
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Thanks rrr1986, but these docs are not what I need to develop for the chip. What I need may require me to sign an NDA with SI, which I am willing to do if there are no fees.

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/30/hdmi-out-app-for-droid-x-unlocks-magic/
I heard the guy that developed this app has some mad skill!

rrr1986 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/30/hdmi-out-app-for-droid-x-unlocks-magic/
I heard the guy that developed this app has some mad skill!
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Thats very much like what i want to create.

that app for the droid x is a step forward, but by no means ideal lol. The screen on the phone stays in the app and doesn't reflect what the phone and hdmi output is doing?
Sounds like a LOT of hit or miss and frustration for those users lol. Picking the right app/shortcut sounds bad enough let alone typing something

deathsled said:
that app for the droid x is a step forward, but by no means ideal lol. The screen on the phone stays in the app and doesn't reflect what the phone and hdmi output is doing?
Sounds like a LOT of hit or miss and frustration for those users lol. Picking the right app/shortcut sounds bad enough let alone typing something
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This is because the developer chose to create an app instead of a service.

Here's the action I'm looking for out of an HDMI out utility:
http://androidspin.com/2011/01/06/c...ptima-2x-with-tegra2-chipset-and-gingerbread/
Enjoy!

Hoping for this in CM7, but I'm not holding my breath. Have a pico projector that works with HDMI out in sense roms, but the audio comes out of the speakerphone..! Grr.. And only works in gallery movie player, and maybe youtube. That's it.
:-/

let the people of other forums know about this thread. androidcentral and many other sites. maybe someone throw a key information about the hdmi of the evo

This would be great if you could get full mirroring. Do any of the new htc phones coming out have the same hdmi chip? Maybe you could steal the mirroring drivers from it haha

I don't know if this helps as I have written about it before in another thread but didn't get much results. In the RUU_101107T105508(which boots and will function...but without bootloader screen..you have to remember which key functions make it go into what you are looking for) and the next one RUU_Speedy_Sprint_WWE_1-2.17.651.1_Radio_1.07.00.1129_NV_SPCS_1.52_1103_release_160079_signed and RUU_Supersonic_1.17.651.1(it is the eng-build that you can get when you use the 3 step Simple Root method.....it has HTC utilities that allows you to either select HDMI mirroring or presentation mode. However, the toggle will only let you select presentation mode. If someone knows how to change the default from "false" or to "allow" I am pretty sure it would allow HDMI output. It is a matter of going through all of the files to find the toggle switch to allow it to work. It states it is only for Supersonic and it shows pictures from the Vancouver Google Convference.....so....all of you in the know.....maybe this will help....It has a whole bunch of HTC utilities that only came with the first EVO given out at the Google conference. You can check all types of things.....WiMax included....the same settings that CM is using to make WiMax work now....I just don't think it has/was a top priority and might be an easy fix.....

any advance in the project??

raviosopr said:
any advance in the project??
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difficult to reverse engineer, but putting time into it. Dont have anything to show yet or update except that its work-in-progress. Tried to contact SI for docs but they refused to give it to me

noobie question: Who is SI??

raviosopr said:
noobie question: Who is SI??
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uhhh.
Super Idiots, cause they didnt cough up the doc's.

heheeh ok. Here in this forum I saw a bounty about the hdmi project. look for it and verify if its still active

NFC Vulnerability!

http://phandroid.com/2012/07/26/hac...ble/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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As long as you don't go around letting people touch your phone to their phone you should be fine... NFC literally needs to be right up against another.

Or just keep NFC off it you don't trust it.

This is such a farce. This is how NFC works - the radio is activated and an action is taken. The worst they could probably do is send you to a page where you *could* download something malicious if you were ignorant in what you were looking at. I can see how scanning an NFC tag could force a download depending on the URL provided but I don't believe there is any way that this action will install something without the user's knowledge. You might as well say that you can "hack" Android via the Internet because in his example, he used NFC to prompt the phone to go to a particular webpage.
You want to talk about insecure? How many people still carry around house keys?

Wear a tin-foil hat or trust technology.
Me I rather have convenience technology gives us and will offer

In other news, your wallets with all your CC info can also be stolen by a hacking technique called "pickpocket".
Jokes aside, all this means is that Google will have another patch out soon. Oh wait, too late. Already fixed in JB.

Remember Bluejacking? Nothing like sending a (harmless) "your phone has been virus infected" message to a train car full of commuters and watching all the faces. Ah, the good ol' days...

rohan32 said:
NFC literally needs to be right up against another.
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Right, when I've played with NFC, the tag has to be close enough to almost touch (with millimeters) before the phone reads the tag. And the way NFC normally works when I've used it, the phone has to be screen on, and off the lockscreen. Unless there is some way around this?

Tips and Tricks found *UPDATED 11/28*

Hey all, Just got my LTE variant and have been fiddling around with it and have discovered some things. Wanted to post here and let people know what I've come across.
So far I have discovered:
-Gear works with Rooted Devices (at least with my Note 4)
-Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, planned support for hopefully end of year)
-You DON'T have to use the default texting app in order to send/receive/reply to messages from the S3. So far, the apps I've found that support this are Google Hangouts, ChompSMS, Textra, and Google Messenger. It does have a few hangups though. This thread states the methods I used to achieve this and the hangups observed by doing this.
-You can control phone music from the s3, but cannot stream to it...yet.
-Gear seems to auto lock when removed from wrist. Unable to tell if it's based on the lack of heart beat or sense of movement. Not an issue, just making aware.
-Gear supports AOD (Always On Display). The type of display given is based on the watch face currently in use, so it would appear your watch face must have support for it otherwise it will default to a stock face (needs testing). Using AOD will shift pixels around to prevent burn in every time you go to wake the watch. Have lightly tested and can verify it shifts. Will be testing on my next charge cycle to test battery life and burn in potential (trying to test as much as I can within my 14 day period of which to exchange for another device (lemon law)
So far that's all I've come across and will update this page accordingly with more information. Please feel free to add yourself anything you have discovered so we can let the rest of our Gear toting brothers and sisters know these tips and tricks.

Naturesretard said:
Hey all, Just got my LTE variant and have been fiddling around with it and have discovered some things. Wanted to post here and let people know what I've come across.
So far I have discovered:
-Gear works with Rooted Devices (at least with my Note 4)
-Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, but still investigating that)
-You DON'T have to use the default texting app in order to send/receive/reply to messages from the S3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/gea...horrendous-t3507842/post69808820#post69808820) It does have a few hangups though. The thread I Zelda'd explains how I got it working and what those issues are.
-You can control phone music from the s3, but cannot stream to it yet. (Spotify is planned for mid-december though)
-Gear seems to auto lock when removed from wrist. Unable to tell if it's based on the lack of heart beat or sense of movement. Not an issue, just making aware.
-Gear supports AOD (Always On Display). It is quoted to shift pixels around to prevent burn in. Have not tested to verify.
So far that's all I've come across and will update this page accordingly with more information. Please feel free to add yourself anything you have discovered so we can let the rest of our Gear toting brothers and sisters know these tips and tricks.
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You cant add Discover yet b/c it's not a supported bank yet.
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Naturesretard; said:
Hey all, Just got my LTE variant and have been fiddling around with it and have discovered some things. Wanted to post here and let people know what I've come across.
So far I have discovered:
-Gear works with Rooted Devices (at least with my Note 4)
-Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, planned support for hopefully end of year)
-You DON'T have to use the default texting app in order to send/receive/reply to messages from the S3. So far, the apps I've found that support this are Google Hangouts, ChompSMS, Textra, and Google Messenger. It does have a few hangups though. This thread states the methods I used to achieve this and the hangups observed by doing this.
-You can control phone music from the s3, but cannot stream to it...yet.
-Gear seems to auto lock when removed from wrist. Unable to tell if it's based on the lack of heart beat or sense of movement. Not an issue, just making aware.
-Gear supports AOD (Always On Display). The type of display given is based on the watch face currently in use, so it would appear your watch face must have support for it otherwise it will default to a stock face (needs testing). Using AOD will shift pixels around to prevent burn in every time you go to wake the watch. Have lightly tested and can verify it shifts. Will be testing on my next charge cycle to test battery life and burn in potential (trying to test as much as I can within my 14 day period of which to exchange for another device (lemon law)
So far that's all I've come across and will update this page accordingly with more information. Please feel free to add yourself anything you have discovered so we can let the rest of our Gear toting brothers and sisters know these tips and tricks.
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You CAN stream SoundCloud. It is terrible though.

spencewesttx said:
You CAN stream SoundCloud. It is terrible though.
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How?

Naturesretard; said:
How?
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There is an app called "SoundCloudPro" in the Galaxy Store

Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, but still investigating that)
How is that possible? Can't even install samsung pay on a rooted phone.

MobileUnlockBase said:
Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, but still investigating that)
How is that possible? Can't even install samsung pay on a rooted phone.
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The Samsung Pay you use is a baked in app that is part of the Samsung Gear app. I have in installed on my rooted Nougat port on my HTC 10 and it works perfect. You don't need the official Samsung Pay app installed on the device at all. It seems as of now, that Samsung thinks the security on the watch is enough to allow you to use it side by side with a rooted phone. I hope it stays that way, because I have never been able to use Android pay because of the Root issue.

MobileUnlockBase said:
Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, but still investigating that)
How is that possible? Can't even install samsung pay on a rooted phone.
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Thank you. I just bought my watch a couple of hours ago.

Its not supported
MobileUnlockBase said:
Samsung Pay from Gear works with Rooted Devices (Can't add my Discover Card yet, but still investigating that)
How is that possible? Can't even install samsung pay on a rooted phone.
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Samsung pay not support discover card you can check at this link http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-pay/compatible-cards/

Thanks Naturesretard , interesting

Did you keep the watch @Naturesretard?

I have bought the Gear s3 and would like to connect with my Samsung A9 Pro (sm-A9100), however, when I checked the passkey for both sides, the s3 and a9 pro keep connecting but no further....
Does anyone has such situation? and what can I do....
ps. My A9 pro was rooted and some defaulted samsung app were forzened before.

krazy006 said:
Did you keep the watch @Naturesretard?
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Yes I did. However have been very busy since getting it and have not had time to update the thread. I've tested a few additional features and even a skin from Skinomi to protect the watch. When I have time tonight I will try to update what I can.
What I can say now, the watch feels a little lackluster, but since it's my first wearable, and it works for what I bought it for (messaging/calling, Samsung pay) it works great. But there are time I worry I'm not using it to its potential or it's just in its baby phases and doesn't have many apps yet.

Naturesretard said:
Yes I did. However have been very busy since getting it and have not had time to update the thread. I've tested a few additional features and even a skin from Skinomi to protect the watch. When I have time tonight I will try to update what I can.
What I can say now, the watch feels a little lackluster, but since it's my first wearable, and it works for what I bought it for (messaging/calling, Samsung pay) it works great. But there are time I worry I'm not using it to its potential or it's just in its baby phases and doesn't have many apps yet.
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I just picked mine up a few days ago a and that sums up my feelings also. It's my first smartwatch and I've been wondering if I'm using it's full potential. I haven't been thrilled with the battery life but I have been playing around with it a lot and have only charged it a couple of times. Hopefully that will improve when I finally decide on a watch face that I can live with, I think I've changed the face a couple of hundred times.

Samsung Pay is available on S3, the only difference is that if you bought the BT version, it'll requires that you have the phone nearby for the 4GLTE to make the payment or such. If you have the LTE model and uses that, then you should be fine.

Ziken said:
Samsung Pay is available on S3, the only difference is that if you bought the BT version, it'll requires that you have the phone nearby for the 4GLTE to make the payment or such. If you have the LTE model and uses that, then you should be fine.
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Correction, BT version can do 10 transactions without the phone nearby for Samsung Pay. After that, you need to sync with the phone to get another 10.

gpmg762 said:
Correction, BT version can do 10 transactions without the phone nearby for Samsung Pay. After that, you need to sync with the phone to get another 10.
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Really? Thank you for that information

can provide guide about use Uber in Gear S3?

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themobileupdates said:
can provide guide about use Uber in Gear S3?
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Just download the companion app but the original Uber app needs to be installed as well
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port under band

Anyone else notice the connection port on the watch located under where the lower band attaches to the watch?

Just checked mine and I don't have that port in your picture. I have the Frontier WiFi only version. What version do you have?

Mine is ATT 4g Frontier

Just checked on mine, T-Mobile 4g version. Got a waterproof cover over it but popped it off and there it was. Wonder if that could be used for charging.

BT/WiFi version here, no port.
Our version doesn't need no stinkin' port hehe

I believe it's used for programming the sim card.

That's what I was thinking when I found it.

... or LTE antenna maybe..?

Anyone know where I can get another waterproof cover for the LTE hidden port on the Gear S3 Frontier? Lost Mine!

It can also be used to connect to Odin via hardware cable. The Bluetooth versions have it also I believe, but it is sealed within the watch. Can only access by removing the back.

dkb218 said:
I believe it's used for programming the sim card.
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doubt that. sim cards are programmed OTA usually
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highaltitude said:
That's what I was thinking when I found it.
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highly doubt it
cawith said:
... or LTE antenna maybe..?
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this isnt what an antenna looks like
Longpre said:
It can also be used to connect to Odin via hardware cable. The Bluetooth versions have it also I believe, but it is sealed within the watch. Can only access by removing the back.
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^^^ this ^^^
hopefully someone can figure out root once they actually start tinkering with it

Does anyone know where I can get a new cover for this data port?

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I'm just going to leave it alone. Not an engineer and don't want to mess with something I don't understand. I like the watch too much!

rogerperk said:
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I'm just going to leave it alone. Not an engineer and don't want to mess with something I don't understand. I like the watch too much!
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at this point, there isnt much reason for you to take the cover off. Its mainly so that you can force firmware updates on it via Odin etc etc. I hope that those who are engineers or code writers can figure out a way to get Android Wear on this hardware. Im a huge fan of the watch too with regard to the hardware, but tizen is horrible in comparison to AW

youdoofus said:
at this point, there isnt much reason for you to take the cover off. Its mainly so that you can force firmware updates on it via Odin etc etc. I hope that those who are engineers or code writers can figure out a way to get Android Wear on this hardware. Im a huge fan of the watch too with regard to the hardware, but tizen is horrible in comparison to AW
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Thanks! Not looking to launch nuclear missiles or solve the national debt on my watch. Just want it to be cool. Waterproof would be nice too. Tizen or AW doesnt really matter to me. Just a simple user. :silly:

rogerperk said:
Thanks! Not looking to launch nuclear missiles or solve the national debt on my watch. Just want it to be cool. Waterproof would be nice too. Tizen or AW doesnt really matter to me. Just a simple user. :silly:
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If youre not wanting to launch nuclear missiles, then you should take the watch off, put it in a settl box with 2 inch thick walls, weld it shut, place it in a 30 ft hole in the middle of a wooded area and then forget where you buried it. Mine launches missiles like 7 times a day!! Kidding aside, the water resistant feature of the S3 Frontier is one of my favorite parts of the hardware itself. I came from a Gear 2 Neo which was rooted and running AW and i find it to be vastly superior to Tizen. Hell, something as simple as the translator app is just one of many small examples of stuff that just runs more smoothly on AW. Ijust wish that Sammy would get Tizen up there and do better, cooler stuff with it. I do love samsung pay with my watch tho. Its f$&king dope as s---!!!

root access to S8 or S8+

does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access

Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).

waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
Quote:
Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm

yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.

Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader

geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.

Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?

I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait

The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.

Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…

Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.

The Phone Company said:
What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.

Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.

bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.