does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
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The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.
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Does anyone know if this is going to work for the Verizon S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056630
I'm not sure, but it's been reported that it will. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to root the device. If it trips knox then it will probably break the tap and pay functionality and now that Samsung has come up with a secure phone that's easy to use I may actually use that feature.
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I'm not sure, but it's been reported that it will. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to root the device. If it trips knox then it will probably break the tap and pay functionality and now that Samsung has come up with a secure phone that's easy to use I may actually use that feature.
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I hope they figure out a way around this.
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Does anyone know if this is going to work for the Verizon S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056630
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Thats only for non branded and unlockable phones. It will not work on verizon varient
i am always preaching to folks that say root wont happen and i have always been right BUT take a look at the Note 4 HERE where since release it has raised around $15,000 in pledges for root and nothing has happened.
i am a believer but starting to feel it may be doubtful for the US versions at least.
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I'm not sure, but it's been reported that it will. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to root the device. If it trips knox then it will probably break the tap and pay functionality and now that Samsung has come up with a secure phone that's easy to use I may actually use that feature.
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if root is obtained it is likely that an Xposed Module will be created to get the Pay working even with root as it has worked for me in the past on the Note 3 with Softcard.
root has to come first then the solutions to things like this are generally much easier than root itself
A root bounty thread has been started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/orig-development/verizon-s6-root-bounty-t3095999
So the security system KNOX and the mobile payment system Samsung Pay has started the controversial debate about rooting/flashing your new S6/S6 Edge..
While we still are months (years?) away from a fully working system and large merchants adapting the system, it is still a very valuable and kind of cool feature to have on your phone.
But when you're browsing the forums you see custom ROMs and mods that could further power your S6 to unlock it's full potential and with root you can of course modify your Android experience to just the way you want it.
We have also yet to see a release date for other countries than the US and China. I live in Sweden and doubt I will see Samsung Pay working here since the magnetic terminals rarely can be used because of the chip-security VISA and MasterCard require.
The question still resides.. Is it worth tripping KNOX and losing Samsung Pay, which might never even come to your country (or at least not in 1-2 years), for unlocking Androids full power and the S6 full potential?
To flash or not to flash, that is the question...
I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
flu13 said:
I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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Samsung Pay uses MST technology in addition to NFC, meaning that you can pay with your phone virtually anywhere credit cards are accepted.
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I'd love to root, but it's not available for my version yet. I'm also not clear on what Samsung Pay does for me that's better than Google Wallet.
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MST technology
Whaaaat?? How does that work? How will it work with an old-fashioned magnetic card swipe reader? Crazy.
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Whaaaat?? How does that work? How will it work with an old-fashioned magnetic card swipe reader? Crazy.
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It emulates an magnetic field that works exactly as you should swipe your card.
That makes my head spin.
I rooted. I have no desire to pay with my phone.
So do we know 100% that root definitely kills the option for Samsung Pay? Or that with Knox tripped it will negate Samsung Pay? I've read about here and there but I guess I haven't quite seen if someone actually tried to use the pay after root and it didn't work?
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So do we know 100% that root definitely kills the option for Samsung Pay? Or that with Knox tripped it will negate Samsung Pay? I've read about here and there but I guess I haven't quite seen if someone actually tried to use the pay after root and it didn't work?
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According to SamMobile tripping KNOX will disable Samsung Pay.
We've yet to get any official statement though, right?
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According to SamMobile tripping KNOX will disable Samsung Pay.
We've yet to get any official statement though, right?
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I am looking at buying one to replace my wife's S4 and hadn't really read up on it a whole little yet. Thanks for the info I had not looked there. Next time keep the attitude to yourself.
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I am looking at buying one to replace my wife's S4 and hadn't really read up on it a whole little yet. Thanks for the info I had not looked there. Next time keep the attitude to yourself.
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I'm sorry, you must've missunderstood me.. I didn't mean to have any attitude. I was mainly trying to get confirmation if there were any official statement from Samsung since I don't know if there is any..
No problem, guess I took it the wrong way too. It was just how it was written the "though?"
Anyhow, I have rooted (between my wife and I) our last 8+ phones so naturally I am looking to root the S6 when we get one, just wanted to find out for sure if it made things worse. I suppose if I am not going to use Sam Pay then it wouldn't matter. I just would rather not lose options or features. I did see a thread of a DEV that claims to have achieved root without tripping KNOX. Not sure if it will make it's way to us or not.
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No problem, guess I took it the wrong way too. It was just how it was written the "though?"
Anyhow, I have rooted (between my wife and I) our last 8+ phones so naturally I am looking to root the S6 when we get one, just wanted to find out for sure if it made things worse. I suppose if I am not going to use Sam Pay then it wouldn't matter. I just would rather not lose options or features. I did see a thread of a DEV that claims to have achieved root without tripping KNOX. Not sure if it will make it's way to us or not.
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Same here! Always been rooting the phones, when you have the option of complete flexibility with the OS, why not?
Yea, better to have the possibility of the feature, even if one will use it or not, than to lock yourself out directly, hopefully that Dev has found a way and if so it won't be long time before it gets to us.
Also, since installing Nova Launcher Prime I haven't really had the need to root it since the phone is blazing fast and you can you hide away the apps you don't use/want to see in the drawer.
I know this barely came out, but is there fully working root for this yet?
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While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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While I understand each device is different, does anyone know approximately how long it took for previous Samsung devices to get a Root that didn't disable Knox from when they were released? (S6, S6 edge?).
Also will the T-Mobile version be able to be rooted easier since it's supposedly an unlocked bootloader? I don't care about bringing it to another carrier, I'm just interested in a permanent root that doesn't trip Knox, and preferably a way to install TWRP for Roms.
This will be my first phone with no root from day one, but I'm still looking forward to this phone.
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
Thanks for the reply, a few weeks or even a month is definitely doable. I was just afraid from other posts that there wouldn't be a root, or if it was it would take forever since there's not going to be much dev support on this phone.
the main problem will actually be that the most talented devs have stopped buying samsung phones for a variety of reasons, so there will be many fewer knowledgeable folks on this phone to do things like root and other customizations..
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When ANdroid 5.1.1 was released on the S6 - we had to wait for Kernel Source to be released before they couid get root working - chances are this will need to happen here too - I am not sure what they did - but I beleive root had to be injected into the kernel to make it work - (not that I know what that means anyway - LOL) Suffice it to say - I am sure we will have root - but it make a take a few days - weeks - it did on the S6 - even before 5.1.1 when the S6 was first launched it was about 2 weeks before we had root - chances are that will happen now too - but it will be worth it!
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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Samsung put a root restriction into the defconfig of the kernel. You have to change it and recompile to enable root.
And Samsung likes to release half ass kernel source as well.
I know quite a few devs who are skipping this note since Samsung didn't do so hot with it. Plus they are trying everything they can to disable all root functionally.
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Yeah I tried the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demands up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
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Yeah I try the Nexus 6 too and just wasn't very impressed. I ended up giving one of my jump on demand up and got the galaxy s6 instead. I really do love the Samsung phones. Even if we can get fruit and just a halfway decent rom the phones are still so much better in my opinion. I go back and forth with it but usually end up with Samsung, I just love their screens cameras and general functionality
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My big thing is front facing speakers. The camera is OK, but then again I have a high end DSLR for pictures.
Dont get me wrong, Samsung makes a premium device. But I cannot deal with a company that is completely against root and modding a phone.
If I pay 800$ for it. ITS MINE. Let me do what I want.
So I'll never own anything Samsung ever again.
Fastboot OEM unlock, fastboot flash recovery, flash SuperSU zip. Done. Rooted nexus. That simple.
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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Nexus 6 FTW !!
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I went Nexus 6. And frankly I might go nexus again. If the Nexus devices are crap then I'll hold onto this till something better comes along that's not Samsung.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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I understand - and it is a shame - I agree that Samsung made some mistakes (at least as far as we are concerned) but they still know how to make a pretty incredible phone. Better than most -
The Note 5, despite the things we miss - is pretty incredible.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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Incredible failure yes. Incredible phone no. They are eating Apples table scraps. They need to stick to their ways. The Note 3 was a huge step in the correct direction. Which I still have one of those. Note 4, not even a worthy upgrade.
And Note 5. Just total failure. With the note line I got a happy feeling with them I've had them all, except 5. And I will not. As it is just a failure.
Stop following Apple and be your own company.
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Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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Many devs are going g4 pro or nexus 6. I'm still on note 4 until something comes out. I'm done with Samsung.
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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I wonder which phones these developers are going to buy then? I might want to follow them wherever they go lol
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LG phones can be difficult to dev for, so it remains to be seen how much dev there will be for it
If you want endless incredible development, Nexus is the only way to go..
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Crossing my fingers it has msd
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Each to their own I suppose. I respect your feelings and passion - I guess I look at things differently but no matter. I personally like the note 5 but that is just me I guess. I am no where near as knowledgeable about code work, developing and that sort of thing as you are- and I guess I am easy to please. Regardless I wish you well and hope you find your next 'dream phone'.
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Same to you buddy.
Learning all this is easy. Alot of just doing and if it doesn't work, return to previous state.
I started back with the Nexus One so I've been doing it a while lol.
And honestly, I don't think a company will ever release my dream phone. Every Phone will have sometime we have to live with, or don't like.
But that's why android prevails.
And exactly, you want big name devs, Nexus devices. The next batch of Nexus devices are going to be a huge hit. Assuming all leaks are true.
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chong67 said:
I am still using N4 and on KK 4.4.4 My Wanam Exposed work great. And my hotspot meter never go up.
Why change when old thing work? No wonder I am a conservative.
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5.1.1 is actually a very nice upgrade for Notes. 5.0 was trash honestly. 5.1.1 they fixed a tub of issues.
At least on a nexus, the 5.1.1 was a very nice upgrade.
Granted I'm on 6.0 at the moment. Gotta love a nexus.
I'm debating between the two. I have a change to get one soon but I'm leaning on keeping the S7e since the U firmware runs well. I also think the S7e looks way better than the XL. It also means giving up SPay, Qi, IP68, compact body,... But Android 7.0 with the new goodies... hmmmm
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Samsung Pay, and the sleek look of the S7edge are the only things that keep me on.
I've never liked the camera UI of vanilla android.... also water resistant, sd card support & big ass battery
wait for the Galaxy S8 edge it will have all the upgraded specs and way more.
to get rid of touchwiz..... in a heartbeat
I'll put an end to this. The S7 Edge has the following advantages over the Pixel XL:
Bigger battery
Edge shortcuts
Waterproof
Better always on display
SD card
Wireless charging
Floating window
Screen gets brighter in daylight and darker at night
Scroll capture
Samsung widgets, magazine, weather, calendar..
Can still use JOD
Can use T-Mobile insurance
Samsung backup
Samsung pay
Better price
Dimensions are way better
As you can see the choice is a no-brainer. Shouldn't even require any thought actually. The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera. 7.1 doesn't do much (I have it on my Nexus) and the photos look better in all lighting conditions on the S7e, even though the Pixel has really great stabilization and is faster at snapping the photo.
The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera.
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
DriveDroid? Lol
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
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Not very effectively
seh6183 said:
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
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Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
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Freezing system apps can be done without root.
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Again yea kinda
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Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Not very effectively
Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
Again yea kinda
WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you. Maybe you don't even know what mst is? Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
Your arrogance is amazing, do you purport know better than everyone else?
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
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LOL wow so because you dont have any adds that means the method you use is just as good for everyone? If everyone uses your method there would be no adds whatsoever, is that what you are saying?
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I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
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As for freezing, you cant freeze certain system apps w/o root that's why I said kinda. See how that works? Not to mention the overall problem of freezing instead of removing. But yea keep the bloatware and limit your space.
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XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
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As far as you rationale on xda and rooting, OEMs are not eliminating the need for root, otherwise most people wouldnt be on here. And who are you to say what is needed to make other's phones more enjoyable? The fact that people want root is indicative of their need to make modifications to make their phone enjoyable to them. And also is that why the international versions have unlocked bootloaders? To educate you, OEMS lock bootloaders at the request of carriers. Locked bootloaders have been available to be instituted for many years, and seeing as US carriers are starting to utilize them the demand for unlocked phones are increasing.
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-unlocked-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge-in-the-u-s
Samsung even admits it and has released a carrier independent unlocked s7
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Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
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Again who says its unnecessary? You? Since when do you speak for the majority?
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If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
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Again I will and many others will to due to our need to make our phones more enjoyable
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I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you.
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AGAIN so... because you have settled on that tradeoff and others dont agree with your opinion, you are saying that we must not be educated? What a narrow world view, agree with everything I say and do or you're wrong and must be corrected. The Nazis had the same idea but took it a step further and eliminated opposition.
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Maybe you don't even know what mst is?
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Do you? Yes I know what MST is, its Samsung's latest push towards wireless payment technology utilizing NFC. And if the merchant doesnt use it then samsung pay will go ahead and use older "Less Secure" Technology or wont work at all resulting in you having to pull out your bank card and use it either by tap and pay, chip or good old fashioned swiping.
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Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
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Yes, I like many others, will keep trying to get real root because of OUR need to make our devices more enjoyable.
Oh and btw I forgot to mention Xposed by itself, does absolutely nothing, its a framework for root apps to make the modifications and in fact most apps are quite stable on real root. Real root enables the users to fix and streamline the performance of their devices not just customize. Like disabling DVFS, odex/deodex, custom kernels, these are not for aesthetic purposes but functional. To make up for problems like this
http://bgr.com/2016/03/25/galaxy-s7-performance-test-us-vs-global-pt-2/
But keep drinking the koolaid and insist that security is paramount to freedom. The establishment will love you for it.
Nirrik said:
a bunch of annoying babbling
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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LOL awwwww did I make the troll mad? "the fact of the matter is" I respond with structured facts and refrences, you refuse to refute my points with anything other than a tantrum and unfounded opinions. YOU were the one that tried to act like everything you said was fact with no proof, You began this debate and now that its plain to see that you have no real ground to stand on, you are gonna knock the pieces off the board. And apparently people care, you may not but others do. So your "No one cares" is yet another unfounded opinion that has no basis in truth. And as far as going to a forum where people care about root, I did, that's what XDA is, all of it! Its XDA DEVELOPERS! Maybe you should find a new site to spout your locked bootloader/anti root vitrol and where you can refuse to act like a reasonable adult. LMFAO.
All my ads are blocked.
I can freeze every single process on my phone.
You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
Im eating popcorn while reading all this.
I would not trade the GS7E for a pixel or any other Google branded phone. Had bad experiences with prior Nexus phones. To put it simply, the plusses of this phone easily outweigh the plusses of the pixel, which really is only that it has stock Android and quick updates. I couldn't care less about root, as another poster stated, ad blocking and freezing apps can be done without. Never had good experiences with xposed. And lastly, if you want the UI to look stock, Samsung good lock has you covered. Overall, this phone doesn't lag, doesn't crash, has excellent battery life, water resistance, and reasonably quick updates. Life is too short to deal with rooting and other nonsense. I want a phone that works with minimal input from me, and this gives me that.
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You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
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This is literally all I saw...the failure to realise what MST is and/or how it works. NFC is kind of weak...android pay uses it some cards have it the samsung gear s2 watch uses it for sam pay....but mst...mst since nobody wanted to educate the other guy...creates an electromagnetic field of sorts that mimics the magnetic frequency resonance whatever what have you of said card (well actually a secondary card number to protect yours) to emulate a card swipe...works places NOTHING else does..android pay apple pay paypal none of them work because you are in the country somewhere at some hillbilly gasstation that has only a card reader...sam pay will save you. It should even work with square pay readers ?. I will say though...v4a Viper4Android...is VERY useful especially if you are an audiophile. No other app compares...period...coming from someone with an s7e that isnt rooter because i use sam pay. And i must say yea i miss the abilities of a rooted phone...but ive been fine since march without. Also heard tmobile was checking to see if devices were rooted now on insurance....i already cracked my screen once(sparks shooting across the room actually did it)...if thats true i would have been a $$ out if rooted...oh and to answer your question...not in a million years...tmobiles bill credit isnt even enticing enough coupled with the note7 fiasco. Ill be getting the 5.5 s8 or s8e however they will market the moniker as soon as it drops
I didn't want to explain mst to the guy because I was hoping he would continue to live his life believing that mst is just nfc lol
I guess I just don't see what is so great about viper. An equalizer is very important to me but that is built into the apps these days. All the other functions of viper are unimportant to me. I'm not an audiophile so I'm probably missing it, but adding an echo or virtual surround to my music is not important. And I've had bugs and drain with viper before (only on certain devices)
What's the best guide to root the G970U? I'm finding guides for the Exynos variant but not so much for this one. Have even read that it can't be rooted or it isn't supported so far :crying:
As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I would not recommend it. The form factor and specs are all great, although the battery is a bit on the small side. It has automated power savings features, except you can't control those easily with Tasker (you can with Bixby, but most of its profile triggers are pretty limited). And the power savings features appear to mute Google navigation when the screen shuts off.
But after being on custom roms since basically the beginning, One UI has been a gigantic pain to learn where all the settings are (and getting around not being rooted to do things I like/need). I could go on and on.
I put off upgrading for years for a smaller phone with decent specs. This was about the only option for me. I'd definitely recommend the Exynos version, but that's a no-go if you're in the US.
Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
I can't root Samsung Galaxy S10e Snapdragon.
I already unlocked oem lock, kg lock.
But I can't find the right twrp for beyond0q. (no lte)
The office twrp is only beyond0qlte. It is no usable.
I flash TWRP_G9700_3.3.1-9.tar success.
but I don't know why I install magisk failed.
andTab said:
Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
I would like to root just so I can have control over my phone, but I guess those Android days are over here in the US. ?
And it's sad because this phone is almost perfect. Having the fingerprint reader on the back and giving it a normal power button would make it so. Every company out there is a churning out overpriced phablets with a load of junk we don't need nor care for.
I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I have a terrible problem hitting the Bixby and Volume keys when I try to press the power button. I had to use a re-mapping function to disable single & long press on Bixby.
Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do, finally, with Tasker. A few things I need AutoInput for (which is far from ideal, unless it's a task you can do late at night when you aren't using your phone).
The single task I couldn't do satisfactorily was custom charging limits to try to save battery since I charge my phone overnight. That can only be done with root! Although this could maybe be accomplished by toggling the USB connection from charging to file transfer. But obviously that's not an option with wireless charging.
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...Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do...
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Please do start a thread. Once I get my s10e I can contribute what I've been able to do using the few tools I'm familiar with.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
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Got a link for that guide? I dont care so much for having a custom rom flasher. I just want to root.
I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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cuteness...
judaxxx said:
cuteness...
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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This answer is kinda condescending and not helpful. I get it's a pain to explain the birds and bees all the time, but it's even more of a pain to browse hundreds of non-answers on XDA to find info.
@wseverin he's basically saying that the G970U/1 doesn't have an OEM switch in developer settings because it's not *factory unlockable*. Generally, only the EU, by forcing telecoms and Samsung through legislation, have phones with unlockable bootloaders.
Truth is, there IS a way to root the US version of the 10e. You can find various threads on XDA of people referring to Telegram channels where they'll charge you money to remotely root your phone.
They do this through either various hardware/software dongle bundles, or ENG firmware. The S7 / G930U was rooted with an ENG firmware flash - at the expense of battery life.
In this thread they talk specifically about using ENG firmware to unlock the bootloader of the G970U: https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1...sm-g975-sm-g973-sm-g970-2570127/#post13639840
For US devices the only solution is by flashing an eng-boot + script if it exists for your particular device/version.
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Whether or not that would work, I don't know. I've ordered a couple of S10e to test on. But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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Thanks for these infos which haven't been shared on XDA yet.
IMO those with the knowledge to root the G970U think that they can make more profit by selling the rooting service for 100 or 200 $ per phone than to collect the bounty (although I think that they are wrong with this.)
I'm quite annoyed by the posts on XDA which advertise the paid rooting service (like "contact me per PM to get further infos"), although I can't really care as an Exynos user.
Has anyone found a way to root sm-g970U in 2021 for android 11? or its just not worth the effort
No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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Lol i know how you feel but dont because trust me if youre a root fan you arent gonna enjoy it tbh i sold mine like a few weeks after i got it and im just planning to get an Iphone and use it for the forseable future until i change my mind. If you love root dont buy the S or Note devices buy the j or A but if you dont like those i know because they are low end devices sometimes especially for a gamer..... so intead probably get a poco phone one of the newer ones with a snapdragon 860 or a xiaomi with flagship tier performance etc because i know xiaomi and google pixels there bootloaders can be opened and the warranty isnt voided permanently.... meaning once you unroot you get back warranty atleast thats what im sure ive noted.