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[Discussion] Why I would never again buy Huawei Phone! And why you shouldn't too!

FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
I have Huawei P9. Looking at their Update policy I am not happy with it. P8 is not going to get a Nougat update which is SHAME! Not even 2 years of OS support... What a joke. This means My P9 most likely will not updated to a newer version after Nougat... Which means I will never again pay so much money for something that won't get at least 2 new OS updates (whole version).
Next: Nougat update. It's a complete JOKE. What's new? Split screen, App drawer (lol what innovation here!), couple redesign small things... Take a look at Samsung. They are actually adding new stuff... New apps that are useful: Password manager which makes a bigger use of the fingerprint scanner. Note app. New other stuff. And to be honest their Skin looks so much better. Colors are better. Did you see the ugly Black and Dark Blue colors on the Quick toggles on Huawei Nougat? Damn the guy who came with this idea should be fired as soon as possible! No Double tap to wake up, no raise to wake up... But hey they have Knuckle gestures.. Never used them? What a sick person will knock on his phone.. So dumb... Everytime I want to check my screen I have to look for the fingerprint or power button, chick with case makes a little harder to press everytime the power button, in the dark it's super annoying when you mistake it with Volume down... It's just annoying. Give me something easier. Wave to wake up, raise, double tap... Give me all of them and let me choose...
Next: Icons with app drawer are ridiculously BIG! I guess Huawei designers know nothing about aesthetics or don't care...
Next: Notes app doesn't sync with Gmail. I had iPhone and Samsung phones in the past. I really like Stock apps for notes, they are Free, no ads and easy to use.. And they sync with a Google account... This is not the case here.. There is just half baked app, made for 10 minutes while most likely the dude what on the WC...
So many stock Bloat but no Reminders app... Again! Did you try to set simple reminder without using Google Now? I did.. You need to go to Calendar, make Event, turn 100 option some ON, some OFF... Just give me a simple App like on iOS to make a Reminder in 10 secs.. Is this so hard? I guess it's so much easier than making 10 apps that no one is using...
Next: Nothing about Daydream... I guess it won't work with P9...
Next: Again Updates: Sammy released 4 BETA updates, iOS releases many Betas to make sure everything is OK when the final is released to the public.. Huawei still on 1st beta!!!! And most likely this will be the last... We will get Official release full of bugs and will have to wait months for a fix! Thank you Huawei!!!
Next: Huawei is one of the last OEMs that still hasn't uploaded their Stock apps on the Play Store. And we need to wait Months if there is a problem with some of the stock apps! Did you use the stock Huawei keyboard? Did you see how outdated it is? Doesn't have even all the emojis... Not talking about he look from 2008....
Next: Video recording software. Pixel uses software stabilization too, but it's so much better. Video recording quality is ridiculous for a phone at this price... Again I think someone did the coding while was doing his work on the WC... If Pixel can have a lot better recording with software stabilization why we should settle with suck a Joke?
This is why I won't buy another phone from Huawei. Too much negatives for me. And feeling sorry I didn't get the S7... The metal build was more important for me, but i did a mistake.. Should have taken the Glass.. Obviously other OEMs are doing a lot better job...
P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !

What's the problem if we're currently using Nougat Public Beta? I don't see any fallback. The official will be rolled out sooner or later.
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Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.

guitarsmurf2501 said:
Hi Martin, thanks for sharing your opinion, which you're very much entitled to of course.
I'm not too worried about the update. It'll come. It's my experience that almost ALL OEMs are slow at updating to the latest version (Samsung, LG, Oneplus). And when the update comes it's either full of bugs (Oneplus) or makes your phone come to a screeching halt (Samsung).
Notes app... I haven't found anything better than Google Keep for that and it syncs across my devices. Reminders I usually set via the calendar which isn't really an issue for me, but I'm sure there are reminders apps in the Playstore.
Granted, Huawei does have quite a bit of bloat on it, BUT... It doesn't seem to have an impact on either battery life or speed of the phone for me. For me my P9 is my first phone which even after a good 5 months usage is still just as swift and fluid as the first day I got it. And everything just works.
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I am not saying it's a bad phone. It's a great phone, but the support is kinda poor. I am not rushing for the Nougat. I don't mind waiting if they will release a really stable version. Not happy that they are on the 1st beta and maybe this will be last and while most problems will be fixed, while they fix them most likely there will be a new one. And there is not a big improvement in Nougat. They could expand some things, make them better. It most of the time color change...
Don't mind the bloat too, I put all the stuff in a folder and forget they exist.
As I said the phone is great, but they could work a little better on the software.

The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.

dkionline said:
The 3th beta got its firmware yesterday. You want to troll here, thats the point.
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Yeah. Have nothing else to do, decided to troll. Nowadays if you say something people disagree is trolling.
Here in Bulgaria - Beta 1. In the official beta thread no reports for another update, but you got 3.. Strange.

Well the P8 won't be updated due to the same reasons as the Xperia Z3 from Sony. The Kirin used in the sP8 simply is not compatible with Vulkan and therefore Googles Certification Process for Android 7. As this does not happen regularly, you should be able to see updates for your P9 for at least 2 years i guess.
MartinDimchev said:
FIRST: This is my own opinion. You may disagree with it!
My Reasons:
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P.S: Biggest deal breaker: Updates... !
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Thread Cleaned. Please stay on topic and respectful to each other. Else Thread will be closed.

Are you invited for beta test? If not, what is the cust for bulgaria?
Why more betas than stable?
Better is to modify 6.0 and make a backup, if 7.0 got bugs in first global releases, then u can go back.
Why we need the same like other manufacture? Its enough now.

For every stuff have their pros / cons no one the best just find the one that fit for you, Huawei do good progress (not the best) and I dint see any new in software in other phone all are same / running on native Android ,you can go for non OEM firmware phone if need more software modification , but Huawei phone I think thay made for standard / daily driver like Apple...

Sounds like the op should have gone to Samsung, you are basically criticising the huawei because its not a samsung.....
I came from samsung and most of the things you point out as negatives are positives to me.
Placement of fingerprint scanner is perfect, touchwiz is awful and filled to the brim with bloat and ugly icons.
You complain about updates, just buy a samsung and see how long before you end up rooting it just so you can get an update or remove bloatware.
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Some of these points are valid, however, the software is as it is because Huawei is a Chinese brand. Huawei is huge in china, and in china, this software is what sells. And if you don't like the stock apps, just download new ones. If you don't like the launcher, download a new one. That is the beauty of android. There are points of EMUI that I don't like either, but most of them I was able to fix by downloading apps and customizing what I could in the settings.

Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway

africa89 said:
Has somebody forced you to buy the Huawei? If you have bought the phone without acquiring some information before is your fault.
You knew about the update, the software and the pro a d cons, why are you complaining?
If you thought that the samsung was better than the Huawei why you bought it? Take a s7 edge and be happy.
You could install a Rom anyway
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How do you know how bad is a phone without using it at least for a month? Do they write the Cons in your country? Because here they don't. Yeah I will install a garage rom to fix my phone...
If I knew how bad this phone will be I was going to get the S7 without thinking twice...
I don't get people like you... Why don't you keep your pointless opinion for yourself. What, do only people with positive experience should write here? I am sharing my experience with this phone. And hope it will help to people who are thinking about getting this phone, thinking it's a great deal and great phone... I don't want people the give their money like me for something that's not worth it... If they read this and still want the phone at least they know some of the flaws and problems they may see and know they can live it it..

And why you shouldn't too!
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Nah, my next phone will definitely be from Huawei. I love it.

Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm

spring80 said:
Huawei P9/P9 Plus Surpass 10 Million Shipments
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/hw-u_033702.htm
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In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.

MartinDimchev said:
In most European countries after you buy a phone and open the box, you can't give it back or exchange for another brand.
And it's Shipment, not SOLD... Still it's a great phone, for most people who are not too much into phones or know what other phones can do or how often they are updated, or don't care about updates they would be very happy with this phone. I am happy most of the time while using it. Small things are ruing my usage and this is the problem, they are small, fixable but no one is fixing them.
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Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!

safariking said:
Dont cry man if you want updates buy a Pixel
Bye!!
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Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!

MartinDimchev said:
Hey man, if you don't want reading someone complaining about something cut the internet cable.
Bye!!!
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Internet cable doesn't fit in my phone so i cant cut it

Android Pie with new camera experience coming shortly

Face unlock is still being "evaluated" though... Juho Sarvikas on Twitter.

when will android Pie Release on Nokia 8

sabertooth2438 said:
when will android Pie Release on Nokia 8
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You'll ask us and we'll ask you, how's that :silly: ?
Nobody knows when the update will be released, just observe the patch notes and twitter for further information.

I don't know why, but i seem to be getting a huge camera update right now on Oreo on my 8... It also says 'fixed for nokia 8'.
Edit: Nothing has been fixed, unfortunately.

Hem981 said:
I don't know why, but i seem to be getting a huge camera update right now on Oreo on my 8... It also says 'fixed for nokia 8'.
Edit: Nothing has been fixed, unfortunately.
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It seems there are two different updates (1004 and 1012). The update you received has 17Aug update and it seems to be the wrong update they had uploaded two few weeks ago (and it was removed). Nokia has screwed up again?
There is another update from what I have read for the single sim versions that does not broke the cammera... ( I saw in update also the "wrong" one)
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It seems there are two different updates (1004 and 1012). The update you received has 17Aug update and it seems to be the wrong update they had uploaded two few weeks ago (and it was removed). Nokia has screwed up again?
There is another update from what I have read for the single sim versions that does not broke the cammera... ( I saw in update also the "wrong" one)
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And after restarting the phone (without updating at 90 version) I get another update notification for a much smaller app (60MB or so) with version 85...... I am downloading now

stakou said:
It seems there are two different updates (1004 and 1012). The update you received has 17Aug update and it seems to be the wrong update they had uploaded two few weeks ago (and it was removed). Nokia has screwed up again?
There is another update from what I have read for the single sim versions that does not broke the cammera... ( I saw in update also the "wrong" one)
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And after restarting the phone (without updating at 90 version) I get another update notification for a much smaller app (60MB or so) with version 85...... I am downloading now
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Have you finished that update? And how's the new one now?

Version 85.9.1124.31 is the old Pro Camera update, with a new version number. I think they pushed this update for rollback the camera to the consumers that update again to the broken version.
Version 90.9.1123.20 actually is the same with all feature broken (same version, same release date, same problems), but new UI and AR Stickers; 85 is the same of the system 8.1041.71 (maybe with pro mode gesture working in landscape? IDK).
They update the app by mistake again, but with a new description in the Play Store that says there are fixes for Nokia 8. We can only wait for the correct version.
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Wtf how can they be so bad at updating software ? Seriously. They have almost NOTHING to do on their firmware, except their "support" app and their ****ty camera software.
They need to step up their game. I wonder how many people, if any, work at the software department.
I'm pretty happy with the N8, but I would have never kept it without GC' magic.

ben_linux said:
Wtf how can they be so bad at updating software ? Seriously. They have almost NOTHING to do on their firmware, except their "support" app and their ****ty camera software.
They need to step up their game. I wonder how many people, if any, work at the software department.
I'm pretty happy with the N8, but I would have never kept it without GC' magic.
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Seconding on this. But as GC magic works I could not care less. Otherwise my copper beauty just rocking.

ben_linux said:
Wtf how can they be so bad at updating software ? Seriously. They have almost NOTHING to do on their firmware, except their "support" app and their ****ty camera software.
They need to step up their game. I wonder how many people, if any, work at the software department.
I'm pretty happy with the N8, but I would have never kept it without GC' magic.
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It's a mess on the N8. I kind of like mine, when it comes to hardware. But there's a lot of mistakes here and there. Missing bluetooth audio profiles, Glance being a complete mess the camera being pretty disappointing in both quality and features. For a device that's been out for a year now, it's a bit of a letdown and that's for 100% due to the software as the hardware is absolutely great. You'd expect a little more than this.

Will Google Pay work on the Magic 2?

The Magic 2 looks fantastic, but before I go ahead and order one (probably with a China ROM), are there any reports on google pay compatibility?
Apparently it will not work on phones that are not "Play Protect certified", rooted, running a custom ROM, or "Are untested and haven’t been approved by Google".
:fingers-crossed:

Yes, google play will work.
Just go "huawei store" download and install "Google Play Store"
ps: I am use China local version of Magic2, 8G/128G/Red

For in store purchases, only MasterCards work unfortunately. When I tried adding American Express or Visa, it keeps asking me to contact my bank.

It works for me in the UK. Master debit and credit as well as Amex.

leedashone said:
Yes, google play will work.
Just go "huawei store" download and install "Google Play Store"
ps: I am use China local version of Magic2, 8G/128G/Red
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Hello
I have a questions for you
I don't understand Honor ...I was ready to buy the phone but than I asked to myself why MIx 3 has a much better use of the slider why there was no customization of the functionality of the slider or small menu , like Xiaomi?
It is so useful for e-payment, or to recall a frequent app, I asked to a seller in the shop he said me "they will implement" but how this seller can know it?
I just saw there is a new update of the MAGIC UI 2.0. did you know something?
I hope in the future they will implement it.....it is unbelivable.

rfiore said:
Hello
I have a questions for you
I don't understand Honor ...I was ready to buy the phone but than I asked to myself why MIx 3 has a much better use of the slider why there was no customization of the functionality of the slider or small menu , like Xiaomi?
It is so useful for e-payment, or to recall a frequent app, I asked to a seller in the shop he said me "they will implement" but how this seller can know it?
I just saw there is a new update of the MAGIC UI 2.0. did you know something?
I hope in the future they will implement it.....it is unbelivable.
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And what has that to do with this thread?
You have pasted this into three different threads, I get it, you want a slider with programmable slide action. Get the Mix then.

Huawei stated that more functionality would come to the slide function in future updates.
rfiore said:
Hello
I have a questions for you
I don't understand Honor ...I was ready to buy the phone but than I asked to myself why MIx 3 has a much better use of the slider why there was no customization of the functionality of the slider or small menu , like Xiaomi?
It is so useful for e-payment, or to recall a frequent app, I asked to a seller in the shop he said me "they will implement" but how this seller can know it?
I just saw there is a new update of the MAGIC UI 2.0. did you know something?
I hope in the future they will implement it.....it is unbelivable.
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Boom515 said:
Huawei stated that more functionality would come to the slide function in future updates.
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That's great. where did your read about it ?
thanks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...-2-xiaomi-mi-mix-3-best-difference-vs.amphtml
So the Xiaomi has the better design subtleties and adds Qi wireless charging. The Honor wins in the camera department and its in-screen fingerprint scanner is the preferable option. Between the two handsets the actual motion of the sliding mechanism is too close to call – although the Xiaomi, when we saw it, was more customisable than the Honor (which, we're assured, will change via software updates).
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That's great. where did your read about it ?
thanks
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Boom515 said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...-2-xiaomi-mi-mix-3-best-difference-vs.amphtml
So the Xiaomi has the better design subtleties and adds Qi wireless charging. The Honor wins in the camera department and its in-screen fingerprint scanner is the preferable option. Between the two handsets the actual motion of the sliding mechanism is too close to call – although the Xiaomi, when we saw it, was more customisable than the Honor (which, we're assured, will change via software updates).
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Thanks , it is really helpful. I hope it will be soon.
My best

LuckyLuke444 said:
It works for me in the UK. Master debit and credit as well as Amex.
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Luke which bank are you using? I had problems with the Chinese mi mix 2s and Google pay and since then I was like, never getting a Chinese version again. Cheers

I am with Metro Bank. Before the HM2, I used a Mi Mix 1 which also worked with Clydesdale. I switched to Metro 1.5 years ago, so I can't test them with the Honor.
I am not sure how the ROM version would prevent you from registering with certain banks - I always believed the device is trusted and either works or doesn't work at all.

LuckyLuke444 said:
I am with Metro Bank. Before the HM2, I used a Mi Mix 1 which also worked with Clydesdale. I switched to Metro 1.5 years ago, so I can't test them with the Honor.
I am not sure how the ROM version would prevent you from registering with certain banks - I always believed the device is trusted and either works or doesn't work at all.
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Not sure either but it gave me a headache... Google play was certified tho. I had to get the global version and sell the Chinese. Well.... haven't sell it yet... Bugger

So I now have my magic 2!
I love the design. It's all pretty nice and snappy. The in display fingerprint works well. The camera has left me pretty disappointed, as everyone else has been raving on about the performance. I'll make another post addressing that.
As far as google pay goes, I get the "Added features couldn't be set up" "To resolve this, you'll need to contact your bank." error when adding my Nationwide Visa card. Google support assured me that the bank just needs to "re-tokenize" my card. The bank of course had no idea what this meant, so I should have a new card in the post to try adding. I also haven't been able to turn on the contactless built in to the barclaycard app with an error CM2002 "Sorry, something went wrong". I'll update if I get a solution.

thepipemaster said:
So I now have my magic 2!
I love the design. It's all pretty nice and snappy. The in display fingerprint works well. The camera has left me pretty disappointed, as everyone else has been raving on about the performance. I'll make another post addressing that.
As far as google pay goes, I get the "Added features couldn't be set up" "To resolve this, you'll need to contact your bank." error when adding my Nationwide Visa card. Google support assured me that the bank just needs to "re-tokenize" my card. The bank of course had no idea what this meant, so I should have a new card in the post to try adding. I also haven't been able to turn on the contactless built in to the barclaycard app with an error CM2002 "Sorry, something went wrong". I'll update if I get a solution.
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Exactly what happened to me with the Mi Mix.... Bank couldn't see any problems with my card and it used to work with my previous phone. Hope you new card works. Drop us a post if its been solved

leedashone said:
Yes, google play will work.
Just go "huawei store" download and install "Google Play Store"
ps: I am use China local version of Magic2, 8G/128G/Red
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Hiya!
I just picked up the honor magic 2 from china and my phone does not have the 'huawei store'. it does however have an 'app gallery'. Are they the same thing?
Also when I search for 'google' or 'google play store', i get some google apps but not the 'google play store' or 'google play services.
When I try installing any of the apps it takes me to the browser and shows a tab that attempts to open play services but does nothing.
Please help.

[email protected] said:
Hiya!
I just picked up the honor magic 2 from china and my phone does not have the 'huawei store'. it does however have an 'app gallery'. Are they the same thing?
Also when I search for 'google' or 'google play store', i get some google apps but not the 'google play store' or 'google play services.
When I try installing any of the apps it takes me to the browser and shows a tab that attempts to open play services but does nothing.
Please help.
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Yep that is the same thing.
If the Google play store isn't there, try installing it as an apk from apkmirror for example.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...-2-xiaomi-mi-mix-3-best-difference-vs.amphtml
So the Xiaomi has the better design subtleties and adds Qi wireless charging. The Honor wins in the camera department and its in-screen fingerprint scanner is the preferable option. Between the two handsets the actual motion of the sliding mechanism is too close to call – although the Xiaomi, when we saw it, was more customisable than the Honor (which, we're assured, will change via software updates).
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Hmm the YouTube review I have watched all have said that the design on the Honor is the better.
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I'm sure which design is better if a matter of personal preference.
Leo_83 said:
Yep that is the same thing.
If the Google play store isn't there, try installing it as an apk from apkmirror for example.
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Hmm the YouTube review I have watched all have said that the design on the Honor is the better.
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I'm sure which design is better if a matter of personal preference.
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Yes when it comes to the esthetics but I think it hard to argue regarding the mechanical design. The design between the sliding parts has tighter tolerance on the Honor phone. For example the is a rather large gap between the phone and screen on the Mi mix. On the Honor there are no gaps because the parts that slide are more integrated together.
The phones are a bit different when it comes to the implementation of the sliding part. The Mi mix slides the screen down and the "phone and camera" stay still, while on the Honor the "phone and screen" slides down and the back with the camera stay still.
Edit: Found the video were I got this from, watch from 1:08 - 6:02
https://youtu.be/Pj12non7r6g

6 weeks deep!

So here I am, 6 weeks later with my p40 pro, I have completely indulged in the world of Huawei mobile services & Im increasing the level of my knowledge around certain apps and alternatives, The biggest one thanks to @linux25 for recommending it in a previous thread regarding vanced, I was a bit unsure on how to do it at one point, BUT its live. So that's YouTube ticked off :highfive:
other than that I think the obvious alternatives are there now and to be fair im not bothered about what I use for them, My gmail I use Huaweis own email app, It does the same thing Ive never been one for google pay as I think its a rapid way of being skint really early after payday lol. Ive just recently downloaded the Tom Tom app, which I love, clean and easy to use and on my adventures over the weekend in the campervan I gave it a good go and well yeah it got me to a to b easily.
So the question remains of what other google apps do I need that there isn't alternatives for? Personally ive run dry on problems and im free flowing with solutions
6 weeks in and im glad I got this device!

After Much searching for a new phone mine is being delivered today.
I hope I get on with it, coming over from a Google Pixel 2xl.
Eyes wide open and not too worried about Google services etc.

Yep I feel pretty similar at this point.
I'll be honest prior to actually owning this device I was a bit skeptical about the whole "HMS" thing and their alternatives being true replacements for some of GMS, and not just plugged holes - and my original thought was to side load GMS - I was really wrong! The Huawei Cloud is super clean, and I love how all my photos from my Mate 10 Pro and P30 Pro sync over to my P40 Pro in separate folders on all 3 devices. Seeing how well this has been executed has definitely made me intrigued to see what else they have to offer going forward.
YouTube through the browser just wasn't going to be a full term solution for me, but Vanced is a game changer I wish I had even when I was using GMS based Huaweis! (It's now on the P30 Pro also)
I do wish there was a way to get individual apps working (including niche ones) using split installers without having to fully side-load GMS onto the device!
Have yet to give TomTom a go, have been using Waze for a year and minus the odd wild goose chase it puts you on occasionally I do still think its better than GMaps (although the similarities are getting closer)
Get Barclays working, and apps accessible for general consumers a little bit easier and I think Huawei might have been done a favour....

Found it really similar TBH. No real issues i still find the odd app that doesn't work like the Starbucks app. In fairness that helps me out because I will be spending less on coffee.

Having Android as a foundation on new Huawei devices is a blessing and with more and more developers coming on board daily it is a matter of time before HMS is the next best "since sliced bread" there are very few apps that I need from a GMS device such as Sky News, Sky Bet etc but am hopefully these will make there way across soon enough.
A big one for me would be gaming payments for example as a time pass I play Candy Crush on GMS but on HMS I do not have the functions to buy credits (if that makes sense)

TechPeck said:
Yep I feel pretty similar at this point.
I'll be honest prior to actually owning this device I was a bit skeptical about the whole "HMS" thing and their alternatives being true replacements for some of GMS, and not just plugged holes - and my original thought was to side load GMS - I was really wrong! The Huawei Cloud is super clean, and I love how all my photos from my Mate 10 Pro and P30 Pro sync over to my P40 Pro in separate folders on all 3 devices. Seeing how well this has been executed has definitely made me intrigued to see what else they have to offer going forward.
YouTube through the browser just wasn't going to be a full term solution for me, but Vanced is a game changer I wish I had even when I was using GMS based Huaweis! (It's now on the P30 Pro also)
I do wish there was a way to get individual apps working (including niche ones) using split installers without having to fully side-load GMS onto the device!
Have yet to give TomTom a go, have been using Waze for a year and minus the odd wild goose chase it puts you on occasionally I do still think its better than GMaps (although the similarities are getting closer)
Get Barclays working, and apps accessible for general consumers a little bit easier and I think Huawei might have been done a favour....
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If they could split it that would be good, however I would have to have a tutorial every time lol

I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?

skyisblue79 said:
I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?
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Probably not a helpful answer but why would you need it? I could understand when Google's software was more colour accurate than Huaweis but I don't think this is the case anymore.

skyisblue79 said:
I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?
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I would have to agree with the comment below regarding the mod...But no idea lol

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I would have to agree with the comment below regarding the mod...But no idea lol
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I tried a GCam mod out on my Mate 10 Pro a few years back, sharpness looked great but could never get the colours to work properly, always looked super flat and un-contrasty.

you must use Snapdragon device if u prefer Gcam on your phone

skyisblue79 said:
I'm missing a working gcam mod for this phone. Any idea which ver works for kirin hardware?
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No GCam version works on current Huawei phones. You would need to unlock the bootloader and enable camera2 api, but that's not possible.
Only GCam GO works. But no point in using it on the P40 Pro.

tiggrr1 said:
After Much searching for a new phone mine is being delivered today.
I hope I get on with it, coming over from a Google Pixel 2xl.
Eyes wide open and not too worried about Google services etc.
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How are you getting on with the handset?

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
How are you getting on with the handset?
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Sorry for the late reply.
I'm working night shifts and have only switched the phone on for a few minutes to see how things look.
I have to say it feels great in the hand and it is a step up from my 2xl.
Super slow motion video is amazing and I'm surprised to say that I like the look and feel of EMUI.
Sorry not much help to you but I intend to have a good play around at the weekend and turn it into my daily driver.

to add to this post - does any one know of a way to cast the phone other than wireless projection? I have both a chromecast and a fire stick - would be super useful for me! Plus im currently in the middle of converting a van into a campervan - so ill be running a 12 v TV but it wont be a smart TV - So ill be using a hotspot to connect either one of the devices (chromecast/firestick) so which ever one can (if possible) would be amazing

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
to add to this post - does any one know of a way to cast the phone other than wireless projection? I have both a chromecast and a fire stick - would be super useful for me! Plus im currently in the middle of converting a van into a campervan - so ill be running a 12 v TV but it wont be a smart TV - So ill be using a hotspot to connect either one of the devices (chromecast/firestick) so which ever one can (if possible) would be amazing
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You could use an ago called Allcast, I have found this worked well for me. Can cast media, not sure about projection.

id say all cast works best and is compatible with multiple different apps so everything son one place

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
So here I am, 6 weeks later with my p40 pro, I have completely indulged in the world of Huawei mobile services & Im increasing the level of my knowledge around certain apps and alternatives, The biggest one thanks to @linux25 for recommending it in a previous thread regarding vanced, I was a bit unsure on how to do it at one point, BUT its live. So that's YouTube ticked off :highfive:
other than that I think the obvious alternatives are there now and to be fair im not bothered about what I use for them, My gmail I use Huaweis own email app, It does the same thing Ive never been one for google pay as I think its a rapid way of being skint really early after payday lol. Ive just recently downloaded the Tom Tom app, which I love, clean and easy to use and on my adventures over the weekend in the campervan I gave it a good go and well yeah it got me to a to b easily.
So the question remains of what other google apps do I need that there isn't alternatives for? Personally ive run dry on problems and im free flowing with solutions
6 weeks in and im glad I got this device!
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Huawei have done a great job in a short space of time. the big question is, what do y0u think is next big step for Huawei?

jericho246 said:
No GCam version works on current Huawei phones. You would need to unlock the bootloader and enable camera2 api, but that's not possible.
Only GCam GO works. But no point in using it on the P40 Pro.
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Yeah makes sense. I like gcam mainly for its hdr and AI capabilities. I think huawei is doing very well in those aspects as well :good:

skyisblue79 said:
Yeah makes sense. I like gcam mainly for its hdr and AI capabilities. I think huawei is doing very well in those aspects as well :good:
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Agreed. There's always room for improvement though, so GCam would be a very nice option for those interested - me included. I always had GCam installed on my previous non-Huawei phones. Sad I can't do it on my P40 Pro, but it is what it is.

[One UI 3.0 Beta] Did anyone get beta sign up banner yet? (N986U1-Snapdragon)

According to this article here https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-one-ui-3-beta-galaxy-note-20-1170928/ the one ui 3 beta is already open. Did anyone get it yet ?
Another Post can be found here on Samsung Forums
For those who were not able to get Beta Banner or Software Update there is still a way to get Android 11, One UI Beta 3 - See my HOW TO POST HERE

warriorvibhu said:
According to this article here https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-one-ui-3-beta-galaxy-note-20-1170928/
The one ui 3 beta is already open. Did anyone get it yet ?
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Nothing here
I'm using N986U1UEU1ATH3

Nothing here either, keep going back into the app, HA!
I'm on N986U1UES1ATID

Its only available for India right now for the N20/N20U and when it comes to us, more than likely, only for TMobile, Verizon and Unlocked

I'm in India and I dont see it

Even I am in India and I don't see it on n20u.

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Its only available for India right now for the N20/N20U and when it comes to us, more than likely, only for TMobile, Verizon and Unlocked
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Nope that site specifically said tmobile, sprint and unlocked. While this may be available in India or not but I can assure you there is no t-mobile or sprint in India.

it says registration through members app, any idea, where i will see it?

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it says registration through members app, any idea, where i will see it?
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Go to the Samsung apps folder on the app drawer, then Samsung Members app is there, unless maybe you rearranged your apps drawer.

Samsung rep on Twitter said the banner would come late today maybe but more likely tomorrow.
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Go to the Samsung apps folder on the app drawer, then Samsung Members app is there, unless maybe you rearranged your apps drawer.
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haha.. i know how to find the members app, within members app, where to find the banner.
I think its by invitation only.. i might be wrong too.

Compusmurf said:
Samsung rep on Twitter said the banner would come late today maybe but more likely tomorrow.
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Thats some good information. Thank you for this. Someone from Samsung started a thread about the beta Yesterday on Members app. Here is the link
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haha.. i know how to find the members app, within members app, where to find the banner.
I think its by invitation only.. i might be wrong too.
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It will just show up below the top band of banners, like a small strip (Thats my guess as that is where one Ui 2 ones showed up). You cab try my opening App info for Members app >>Storage and clear Data but make sure that you know how to log back in to your Members account. After this when you open the app the One UI 2 banner will show up (Thats where One UI 3 one is going to be is my guess)

In India, updated today evening. Crashes Samsung Music Player and buggy app drawer. Lingers long time at 84% during update. Rest fine so far. Looks are cool. No exciting features though. Yet to explore.

There is a possibility that only people who are on August or September patch will see the banner. The reason being that the beta build might be based on / tested on the older builds. I am thinking of reverting to an older build, any thoughts?

Buildwell said:
In India, updated today evening. Crashes Samsung Music Player and buggy app drawer. Lingers long time at 84% during update. Rest fine so far. Looks are cool. No exciting features though. Yet to explore.
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Any improvements in Camera, Screen tint and Battery that you notice ?

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Any improvements in Camera, Screen tint and Battery that you notice ?
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This screen tint issue is really driving me nuts
Tried factory reset, tried manually adjusting colors but still the white looks way washed out than 2 years old mate 20 pro

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Any improvements in Camera, Screen tint and Battery that you notice ?
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Updated Music player manually, issue solved. Camera images looks much sharper and vibrant. No screen tint. Too early to talk about battery. Sorry.
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There is a possibility that only people who are on August or September patch will see the banner. The reason being that the beta build might be based on / tested on the older builds. I am thinking of reverting to an older build, any thoughts?
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Nope, I was on October build and it turned out fine for me.

Buildwell said:
Updated Music player manually, issue solved. Camera images looks much sharper and vibrant. No screen tint. Too early to talk about battery. Sorry.
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Nope, I was on October build and it turned out fine for me.
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Thanks for that info. Tmobile October security patch is out i heard, may be a requirement for Android 11 Beta so if anyone gets that they should update. Banner has not shown up in US for anyone yet.

yeah this AM i got the sept patch today, tmo unlocked. still waiting for the banner to show up on the app.

I got ATJ3 on frija?
Can I expect UI 3 beta on frija, or just update it ATJ3?
As of now I dont see the banner for UI 3 beta..
I am in US T-mobile.