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Stumbled yesterday avoiding an old lady. Dropped my phone in the process onto the pavement from a couple of feet.
Ended up with a cracked screen across the top (pretty patterns etc etc) Screen seems still responsive.
Anyway, what surprised me was the damage caused after a pathetic drop. Really thought this phone was a bit more robust. HAd the plastic case on the body a screen protector too. My first ever cracked screen. Gutted.
Costs so far using threads here and elsewhere are £150 ish. With the 7.1 coming out in a few weeks here in the UK should I hang fire and buy a new 7.1?
Just updated to Pie yesterday too.....:silly:
7.1 is far inferior to the 7 plus.
Slower SoC, smaller battery. And pretty much same price.
MatthiasDS said:
7.1 is far inferior to the 7 plus.
Slower SoC, smaller battery. And pretty much same price.
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Looks to me like they have added this display thing and taken away what makes the phone a good phone.
They have wayyyy too many phones out at the moment.
divvykev said:
Looks to me like they have added this display thing and taken away what makes the phone a good phone.
They have wayyyy too many phones out at the moment.
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Well it's actually the successor to the Nokia 7, which wasn't widely available. The 7 Plus will probably get a successor in the 7.1 Plus, which is tipped to get a Snapdragon 710.
divvykev said:
Stumbled yesterday avoiding an old lady. Dropped my phone in the process onto the pavement from a couple of feet.
Ended up with a cracked screen across the top (pretty patterns etc etc) Screen seems still responsive.
Anyway, what surprised me was the damage caused after a pathetic drop. Really thought this phone was a bit more robust. HAd the plastic case on the body a screen protector too. My first ever cracked screen. Gutted.
Costs so far using threads here and elsewhere are £150 ish. With the 7.1 coming out in a few weeks here in the UK should I hang fire and buy a new 7.1?
Just updated to Pie yesterday too.....:silly:
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If you decide to send the phone in for repairs make sure you take a lot of photos of the phone before sending it.
I cracked the screen also and send it to repair using HMD repair service. Below a few thoughts:
Pros:
- collection, repair and delivery was quick - 7 days from collection to delivery back.
Cons:
- Phone came back with a new scratch on the back (about 3mm long) which I am sure was not there before I send it for repair.
- The replacement screen has a very thin scratch which I saw only 2 weeks after the phone was delivered (I was in holidays when it arrived).
First I thought that the screen is not Gorilla Glass, but since the repair (2 months ago) I have no other scratch on the phone. I guess (I am not sure though, just my impression) they are using grade B screens for replacement.
I did not reported to repair center because it is barely visible and because it was 2 weeks after the delivery.
Also because all the hassle to change phones and setup again.
So if the crack is not too bad (my screen was still working also, but was completely shattered on one side) I would recommend to keep using the phone until they release Nokia 10 and put the £150 towards that.
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If you decide to send the phone in for repairs make sure you take a lot of photos of the phone before sending it.
I cracked the screen also and send it to repair using HMD repair service. Below a few thoughts:
Pros:
- collection, repair and delivery was quick - 7 days from collection to delivery back.
Cons:
- Phone came back with a new scratch on the back (about 3mm long) which I am sure was not there before I send it for repair.
- The replacement screen has a very thin scratch which I saw only 2 weeks after the phone was delivered (I was in holidays when it arrived).
First I thought that the screen is not Gorilla Glass, but since the repair (2 months ago) I have no other scratch on the phone. I guess (I am not sure though, just my impression) they are using grade B screens for replacement.
I did not reported to repair center because it is barely visible and because it was 2 weeks after the delivery.
Also because all the hassle to change phones and setup again.
So if the crack is not too bad (my screen was still working also, but was completely shattered on one side) I would recommend to keep using the phone until they release Nokia 10 and put the £150 towards that.
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Have lost trust in HMD as a setup. The way they have messed up the updates is something and your not the only one who has mentioned this issue with repairs to me. The drop was hardly anything but the damage is quite scary.
May look at Moto 6 next.
divvykev said:
Have lost trust in HMD as a setup. The way they have messed up the updates is something and your not the only one who has mentioned this issue with repairs to me. The drop was hardly anything but the damage is quite scary.
May look at Moto 6 next.
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I do not think it's HMD's fault only.
A friend had to send an S8 plus to have the screen replaced, and same thing happened to him also. I think it's a 'common practice'.
Moto G6 (I asume) is miles away specs vise compared to Nokia 7+ and no Android one.
Bought a new 7 Plus. Sod it. Better the devil you know. Thanks for all guidance and advice folks.
I just stopped by my local Verizon store, and my local Best Buy, and both had demo stations set up.
Some quick impressions:
The build quality is very nice. The matte etched glass looks better than I was expecting.
The notch looks much better in person. It's really not bad at all. I think everyone is reacting to close-up photos blown up on their monitor, and don't think about the real-world size of the device. However, the Verizon demo app running on the XL has the background of the notification bar blacked out to hide the notch.
The "chin" isn't that bad either (for the same reasons), especially given the trade-off of getting front-facing speakers.
The "Not Pink" is very subtle, but doesn't really look that good to me. However, that is a purely subjective opinion, and others may think it looks great.
Plenty of people are saying that the notch "isn't so bad" when the phone is in your hands, and while I'm more than happy to agree I'll say this - you shouldn't be spending this kind of money on a product that has something that "isn't so bad". The 128GB variant costs well over $1k with taxes included.. I shouldn't be settling for much when spending that kind of money on a smartphone. Headphone jacks, Micro SD compatibility, etc. are things that I am willing to forgive, but the notch might be a bit too much to swallow. We'll see, I get my Pixel 3 XL around the 26th. If I really can't stand it, it'll go back to Google and OnePlus will likely earn my money with their beautiful design and affordability.
Also, the notch doesn't seem so bad on its own - sure; but I'm sure most would feel different if they hold OnePlus' upcoming 6T in one hand and the Pixel 3 XL in the other. The teardrop notch will shame the Pixel 3 XL. Here's to hoping that the software on the 6T can somewhat match what Google's doing, as that's Google's biggest selling point.
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Plenty of people are saying that the notch "isn't so bad" when the phone is in your hands, and while I'm more than happy to agree I'll say this - you shouldn't be spending this kind of money on a product that has something that "isn't so bad". The 128GB variant costs well over $1k with taxes included.. I shouldn't be settling for much when spending that kind of money on a smartphone. Headphone jacks, Micro SD compatibility, etc. are things that I am willing to forgive, but the notch might be a bit too much to swallow. We'll see, I get my Pixel 3 XL around the 26th. If I really can't stand it, it'll go back to Google and OnePlus will likely earn my money with their beautiful design and affordability.
Also, the notch doesn't seem so bad on its own - sure; but I'm sure most would feel different if they hold OnePlus' upcoming 6T in one hand and the Pixel 3 XL in the other. The teardrop notch will shame the Pixel 3 XL. Here's to hoping that the software on the 6T can somewhat match what Google's doing, as that's Google's biggest selling point.
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Wellu won't, once u keep using pixel its hard to go back to anything else, basically google doesn't give a f... Ant how the notch looks, they are sellin the best software that's it, yes i agree the notch is ugly but i cant imagine myself using anything else after havin 2 xl for nearly a year
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Wellu won't, once u keep using pixel its hard to go back to anything else, basically google doesn't give a f... Ant how the notch looks, they are selling the best software that's it, yes i agree the notch is ugly but i cant imagine myself using anything else after having 2 xl for nearly a year
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I feel the same way as you do...but if this phone isn't rootable / ROM-able (because of this dam Titan Chip on Board)....it wont be the same as previous pixel/nexus devices.....that will likely be a deal breaker. It already has less battery, no additional ram, huge notch, no LED notification light.....not being rootable/ROM-able will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Edit: I just came back from the Verizon store as well.....they had the phone in all 3 colors and the pixel stand. The phone looks nice. Lets just hope for root. Also the haptic feedback to me didn't seem better than the P2XL....I heard a few reviews online mention it was considerably improved and the Russian review even claimed it may be better than the iPhone's vibration motor. It didn't feel that way to me tho.
I went to a Verizon store today and check out the 3 and 3 xl myself. I have to say, I DO like it a lot! Like the OP said, in person, the notch is NOT that bad. Having said that, if anyone comes up with a way to partially hide it, I'll still be doing that. I didn't have long to play with it (on lunch from work), but here's what I got:
The screen is WAY better than the 2 xl. Way better. I did not notice any shift either. Compared to my 2 xl, it was definitely a huge improvement. Everything just looks better/clearer.
The glass back was actually pretty cool. You almost wouldn't know it was all glass. However, the matte finish ends just before the edges. That I don't like. The edges are smooth and somewhat slippery. They really should have extended the matte finish onto the edges.
The phone was definitely snappier. I have mine adjusted to .5 for all animations and such, and the 3 xl was much more smooth. I'm sure it will be super quick once that option is changed to .5 when I have mine in hand.
The chin is pretty much identical to the 2 xl. It does not bother me one bit. I would much rather have dual front facing speakers and a chin/notch/forehead than not.
I couldn't really test much else out as I didn't have time. As the OP mentioned, the dev settings were password locked, so, I couldn't play with the hide notch or animation settings. I will say that I was really on the fence on this. I wasn't even going to get one at all. I decided to last minute just to see, and send it back if I didn't like it. Now I'm excited for it's arrival next week. I think I'll be very happy with this.
All in all, it's a minor upgrade to the 2's. Even though the screen is much better, the speakers, and the camera's as well, it's not a huge difference. But, including the stand, my monthly payments are only going to be about 3 bucks more a month, so, to me, that's worth it.
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I went to a Verizon store today and check out the 3 and 3 xl myself. I have to say, I DO like it a lot! Like the OP said, in person, the notch is NOT that bad. Having said that, if anyone comes up with a way to partially hide it, I'll still be doing that. I didn't have long to play with it (on lunch from work), but here's what I got:
The screen is WAY better than the 2 xl. Way better. I did not notice any shift either. Compared to my 2 xl, it was definitely a huge improvement. Everything just looks better/clearer.
The glass back was actually pretty cool. You almost wouldn't know it was all glass. However, the matte finish ends just before the edges. That I don't like. The edges are smooth and somewhat slippery. They really should have extended the matte finish onto the edges.
The phone was definitely snappier. I have mine adjusted to .5 for all animations and such, and the 3 xl was much more smooth. I'm sure it will be super quick once that option is changed to .5 when I have mine in hand.
The chin is pretty much identical to the 2 xl. It does not bother me one bit. I would much rather have dual front facing speakers and a chin/notch/forehead than not.
I couldn't really test much else out as I didn't have time. As the OP mentioned, the dev settings were password locked, so, I couldn't play with the hide notch or animation settings. I will say that I was really on the fence on this. I wasn't even going to get one at all. I decided to last minute just to see, and send it back if I didn't like it. Now I'm excited for it's arrival next week. I think I'll be very happy with this.
All in all, it's a minor upgrade to the 2's. Even though the screen is much better, the speakers, and the camera's as well, it's not a huge difference. But, including the stand, my monthly payments are only going to be about 3 bucks more a month, so, to me, that's worth it.
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To me the chin on the 3XL was about 1mm thicker the than the chin on the 2XL. Not sure why...but it is slightly bigger. I could tell thought that it wouldn't take me long to get used to the notch.
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I just stopped by my local Verizon store, and my local Best Buy, and both had demo stations set up.
Some quick impressions:
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The notch looks much better in person. It's really not bad at all. I think everyone is reacting to close-up photos blown up on their monitor, and don't think about the real-world size of the device. However, the Verizon demo app running on the XL has the background of the notification bar blacked out to hide the notch.
The "chin" isn't that bad either (for the same reasons), especially given the trade-off of getting front-facing speakers.
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About 4 months ago, my cousin got his hands on a Pixel 3 XL since his company does QA testing for Google devices. When I asked about the notch at that point, he said that it really is not bad in person. He played with my OnePlus 6 and told me the 3 XL notch isn't any worse, in real world usage. And now the reviews, including yours, seem to agree with what he told me. Now I'm curious to go see one for myself.
I really don't mind the chin, personally, just because front facing speakers would be amazing. The single bottom facing speaker on my OnePlus 6 really is not good at all.
Unfortunately, the immediate deal breaker for me is the 4GB RAM. Especially at that $899 price point. I'm not a spec chaser, by any means. But 4GB, at least in my usage, is not enough. Looking at the RAM usage of my OnePlus 6, I average 4.2GB - 4.4GB on a daily basis with normal usage. With my 2 XL, I'd find that the system would have to close down processes quite frequently to keep RAM in check. This lead to many app redraws throughout the day. It slowed the phone down and got quite annoying. Since switching to the OnePlus 6 with 8GB RAM (6GB would have been plenty), those issues are resolved. So, while I'd love to get that Pixel camera back and wireless charging would be great, I simply can't justify the cost for a phone that will inevitably be slower than my OnePlus 6. I'll hold out to see what the OnePlus 6T offers.
I already ordered the XL, however I checked out the phones in Verizon as well and the regular 3 seemed really nice as well! I'd be totally fine with it
Went to a Verizon store, they had two Pixel 3 XL's (black and pink) and one Pixel 3 (white).
The glass on the front is a lot flatter than the 2 XL glass. The active area of the screen doesn't seem to come too close to the curved edges, so full coverage glass screen protectors should be a lot easier to design and attach compared to the ones for 2 XL.
The third item under Settings / Display / Colors is Adaptive instead of Saturated.
The new OLED screens are a lot more uniform than 2 XL screens. They look less grainy, I didn't see any colored splotches either. Whites appear somewhat cold / bluish when Natural is selected under Settings / Display / Colors.
Apparently, the screen lottery is still a thing for the third generation of Pixels. The black XL screen had a noticeable red tint when viewed at an angle, while the pink XL screen had a blue tint. The tint first appears at an angle somewhat greater than for the 2 XL, so I guess that's progress. The white non-XL also had a slight reddish tint when viewed at an angle, but it was a lot less pronounced.
(Comparison photos were taken at 100% brightness, natural colors, white and dark gray screen test image. Image quality is not great, as I was trying to dodge reflections and glare and keep the tethered display units in place.)
All 3 phones had 64 Gb of internal memory. Both XL's had Micron storage and the non-XL had an SK Hynix chip. All 3 units had Micron-branded RAM.
Android version was listed as 9, no 9.1. yet.
After seeing the demo units, I'm feeling OK about my black 3 XL 128 Gb order.
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I feel the same way as you do...but if this phone isn't rootable / ROM-able (because of this dam Titan Chip on Board)....it wont be the same as previous pixel/nexus devices.....that will likely be a deal breaker. It already has less battery, no additional ram, huge notch, no LED notification light.....not being rootable/ROM-able will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Edit: I just came back from the Verizon store as well.....they had the phone in all 3 colors and the pixel stand. The phone looks nice. Lets just hope for root. Also the haptic feedback to me didn't seem better than the P2XL....I heard a few reviews online mention it was considerably improved and the Russian review even claimed it may be better than the iPhone's vibration motor. It didn't feel that way to me tho.
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Do some more research before saying it can't be rooted. Nothing is unbreakable, it's a matter of time and effort. Without the phone in hand we know nothing.
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Kisakuku said:
Went to a Verizon store, they had two Pixel 3 XL's (black and pink) and one Pixel 3 (white).
The glass on the front is a lot flatter than the 2 XL glass. The active area of the screen doesn't seem to come too close to the curved edges, so full coverage glass screen protectors should be a lot easier to design and attach compared to the ones for 2 XL.
The third item under Settings / Display / Colors is Adaptive instead of Saturated.
The new OLED screens are a lot more uniform than 2 XL screens. They look less grainy, I didn't see any colored splotches either. Whites appear somewhat cold / bluish when Natural is selected under Settings / Display / Colors.
Apparently, the screen lottery is still a thing for the third generation of Pixels. The black XL screen had a noticeable red tint when viewed at an angle, while the pink XL screen had a blue tint. The tint first appears at an angle somewhat greater than for the 2 XL, so I guess that's progress. The white non-XL also had a slight reddish tint when viewed at an angle, but it was a lot less pronounced.
(Comparison photos were taken at 100% brightness, natural colors, white and dark gray screen test image. Image quality is not great, as I was trying to dodge reflections and glare and keep the tethered display units in place.)
All 3 phones had 64 Gb of internal memory. Both XL's had Micron storage and the non-XL had an SK Hynix chip. All 3 units had Micron-branded RAM.
Android version was listed as 9, no 9.1. yet.
After seeing the demo units, I'm feeling OK about my black 3 XL 128 Gb order.
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Great post - thank you. What does Device State Locked mean? Is that network sim locked or bootloader locked?
micks_address said:
Great post - thank you. What does Device State Locked mean? Is that network sim locked or bootloader locked?
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locked bootloader.
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locked bootloader.
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Thanks - they are likely to be sim unlocked? Id really love to buy one next Thursday while in the US if I could.. I don't have the funds to pre order on google store till Thursday and even if I did I don't think it would be delivered to my hotel in providence in time.. id be afraid I wouldn't have it by checkout time Friday morning and have to leave without it. I guess the sensible thing to do is bite my lip and have patience for 1st week of November release in Ireland/Uk...
I'm not sure even if I knew someone with a Verizon account could they just buy one for me with my cash and hand it over or would they have to sign up to some sort of Verizon contract extension.. etc... my trip coming one week too early
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i chatted online with verizon rep and they said most phones you can buy with one month sim once off payment with no contract.. she sad they don't have info on pixel 3 yet and that with new phones it can be some time before its available.. probably still worth my while checking a store when i get there thursday to see what options are
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Do some more research before saying it can't be rooted. Nothing is unbreakable, it's a matter of time and effort. Without the phone in hand we know nothing.
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I never said its not rootable... I said it may not be. But yes we will have to wait and see. Deestroy from twrp has his order in so I'm hoping for the best.
God I hope there's no screen 'lottery' this time... That was not a post I wanted to see. The 3 and 3xl units I looked at were perfect. No shift whatsoever. Hopefully the demo units from the other post were just flukes. After 3 tries, my 2 xl screen is nearly perfect. I am NOT doing that again this time. If my 3xl comes and has bad blue (or red) shift, it's going back. Seriously, after last year, if Google hasn't done anything about quality control, I actually will likely be looking at other OEM's... I don't want to, but I'm not playing this game anymore. Anyway, I guess we'll see next week!
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Thanks - they are likely to be sim unlocked? Id really love to buy one next Thursday while in the US if I could.. I don't have the funds to pre order on google store till Thursday and even if I did I don't think it would be delivered to my hotel in providence in time.. id be afraid I wouldn't have it by checkout time Friday morning and have to leave without it. I guess the sensible thing to do is bite my lip and have patience for 1st week of November release in Ireland/Uk...
I'm not sure even if I knew someone with a Verizon account could they just buy one for me with my cash and hand it over or would they have to sign up to some sort of Verizon contract extension.. etc... my trip coming one week too early
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i chatted online with verizon rep and they said most phones you can buy with one month sim once off payment with no contract.. she sad they don't have info on pixel 3 yet and that with new phones it can be some time before its available.. probably still worth my while checking a store when i get there thursday to see what options are
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All the variants sold in the USA should be sim/carrier unlocked. There is only a few (or maybe only one) carrier in the UK who sold them with SIM lock,
However, I do not believe the phones will be available for sale until Friday the 19th, that is official release date I believe.
So i went to look at the demo units at my local VZ store and the notch isn't too bad and could probably live with it. from playing around with it is seems the software implementation around the notch is terrible. would it have killed them to round the edges on the top when the app didn't go into the notch area. it wouldn't auto rotate a little button to rotate showed up on the bottom when i rotated the phone and auto rotate was on i guess there was another option i didn't really look too hard for. The screen is nicer compared to my Pixel 2 XL i had with me, it goes more to each side edge so it does feel a bit bigger in that aspect but when an app stops at the notch it feels the same height, just my take on it.
One issue both demo units had that could be a big problem is the top left corner of the back the side with the camera felt squishy , when i pressed on it i could see it move i could even fit my nail under and it felt like it would start to come apart. I hope it just being a demo unit with those blocky brackets on the back adding extra stress to the back but it was only that corner.
Now im even more on the fence lol
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All the variants sold in the USA should be sim/carrier unlocked. There is only a few (or maybe only one) carrier in the UK who sold them with SIM lock,
However, I do not believe the phones will be available for sale until Friday the 19th, that is official release date I believe.
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Thanks I'm there all day Friday. I've had various responses from best buy chat..some say they are sim locked and I can't buy without a Verizon account. Others say that I can pay once off and walk away..will test the water's next week
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Thanks I'm there all day Friday. I've had various responses from best buy chat..some say they are sim locked and I can't buy without a Verizon account. Others say that I can pay once off and walk away..will test the water's next week
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Do be aware best buy only sells the Verizon variant, that will come with a locked bootloader, if they follow past history it wont be unlockable, at least for a long time, if ever.
If you plan to root and/or ROM the device you will need an unlockable bootloader to do so.
Also, you can do a one time payment for the phone online @ best buy site, no reason you cannot do the same in the store. Having said that, in the past, if you do one-time pay, they have tried to raise the price by $100. They tried it with me when buying iPhones, but you just tell them to check store.google.com and they have to price match.
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Do be aware best buy only sells the Verizon variant, that will come with a locked bootloader, if they follow past history it wont be unlockable, at least for a long time, if ever.
If you plan to root and/or ROM the device you will need an unlockable bootloader to do so.
Also, you can do a one time payment for the phone online @ best buy site, no reason you cannot do the same in the store. Having said that, in the past, if you do one-time pay, they have tried to raise the price by $100. They tried it with me when buying iPhones, but you just tell them to check store.google.com and they have to price match.
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If you do the one time payment payment on the best buy site does it ask for any verizon account details?
I see that they have confirmed 100000 flips. 28 flips per day for 5 years. The problem is, I'm pretty sure that we're going to use more than 28 flips a day e.g. face unlock, manual flip control, Instagram stories, video calls, taking multiple front video clips (vloggers) etc. I'm a bit worried about it failing in 2 years. So would it be durable enough for the long run?
Only way to find out is waiting 2 years I guess, it's hard to judge. In case Asus messes things up and they start to break everywhere then that would not only hurt Asus's image but also overal all motor controlled camera's.
I personally think it would be fine, perhaps a iFixit rating would soften the blow if they would deem it easy to repair.
That would likely suggest it has ~10% chance of failure after 100,000 flips, and very, very few people would average more than 25 a day over 2 years.
The mech looks well designed, to me.
However if you drop your phone a lot, this probably isn't the device for you.
I'm really not worried at all.
I think the YouTuber JerryRigEverything is gonna do a test on the durability of the camera in the next few weeks, since he's already pre-ordered it.
That being said, it should last for 2-3 years when most users would be onto another phone, and it doesn't seem like it will break anytime soon.
I'm not actually worried, I'm just a bit concerned about longevity.
I already spotted a video on youtube of a guy having one where the camera would not return flat properly already, but it was in spanish so hard to understand.
I'm more worried about dust, lint, and other flotsam and jetsam getting behind, beneath, and alongside the mechanism thereby causing it to gunk up and either not open, or not close properly. I'll stick with my OnePlus 6 non-T version.
jaseman said:
I'm more worried about dust, lint, and other flotsam and jetsam getting behind, beneath, and alongside the mechanism thereby causing it to gunk up and either not open, or not close properly. I'll stick with my OnePlus 6 non-T version.
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True, the OnePlus 7 pro has a rubber ring around the base of the pop up camera. The zenfone 6 doesnt have any kind of water protection. So that might be an issue.
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True, the OnePlus 7 pro has a rubber ring around the base of the pop up camera. The zenfone 6 doesnt have any kind of water protection. So that might be an issue.
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Until we see a tear-down, I wouldn't be so sure that there isn't any protection. I've heard it's at least splash resistant which I think most models are these days. One thing is not having IP certification but you don't need that to make rudimentary rubber seals.
Of course it'll be difficult to do especially with how much of it is exposed. It's definitely easier for the 7 Pro because pretty much all of it is internal.
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I'm not actually worried, I'm just a bit concerned about longevity.
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Now days no one bothered keep a device for more than 2 years. So, it doesn't bother much.
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Now days no one bothered keep a device for more than 2 years. So, it doesn't bother much.
Stepper motor!
We all have to wait for a proper teardown of zenfone 6.
But I am sure the liquid cool metal stepper motors are quite durable.
Company claims 28 selfies everyday for 5 years.
We'll have to wait a little until we get to know how reliable is the flip camera. But it feels reliable and strong from what I've seen so far
Keep them oil d up
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Keep them oil d up
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Don't do this if you don't want to kill your camera!
my camera motor failed in 6 weeks. Sent it in for repair and looks like they are waiting on parts...
As far durability is there but problem is dust accumulation and hinge is getting loose (not getting fully retract).
I was skeptical about the durability but so far camera is sturdy.
Week after owning mine hinge was now loose
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Week after owning mine hinge was now loose
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After almost seven months of operation, I see absolutely no difference from how it worked the first day.
I got my phone on 5July 2019 and till date it's working flawlessly. Even it once fell into road side drain and was fully sunk in water for about 8-10sec but it runs buttery smooth and thus the camera.
IMO this phone is just superb and much more better than Chinese ****s like Vivo, OP, Oppo, Xiaomi etc
I have owned this Mi Mix Pro LTE 4G phone since it became available on the Chinese Market (I think I purchased it at GearBest, do not quiet remember).
My first year in, I dropped and cracked the screen 4 months in to ownership. It was difficult and expensive to get a replacement screen, but more so in finding a repair shop who would attempt the repair.
I then broke the frame end of year one due to another drop, my phone was knocked off my desk. Thankfully the screen survived, and the phone still worked.
Eventually, the screen developed a crack and I used it that way for the rest of year two of ownership.
End of year two beginning of year 3 I then had a light drop, and the screen just stopped working (being of this year). I ordered a replacement screen online and waited about a month to receive it.
I was using this phone less and less, and then came back to it because of the overall size of the screen, I simply love it. So I looked up several well written how to's and videos and did it myself. When replacing the screen, I had ordered a frame as well. I did it myself with all the available how to videos out there. The screen proved defective, despite the fact the vendor stated it was an oem screen, which it definitely was not. I have not been able to find an oem screen. Many vendors advertise and say it is, but it is not ( the flex cable is completely different, and the attached circuitry completely different as well. More importantly, the screen color is not as rich).
I reordered another screen and I also purchased a new non oem battery that is supposedly 6000mah cough, cough. I have again replaced the screen and I'm now resetting and testing the new battery.
I simply love this phone. I tried the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, the Mi Mix 2s, almost bought the Mi Mix 3 (glad I didn't), and tried the Xiaomi mi 9T pro. The screens are just not as wide, and therefore to my eyes, not as big. Quite simply, they say they are over 6.47" but the screens are narrower and taller, hence slimmer.
I will keeping chugging along with my Mi Mix and will keep replacing screens if need be until a try equivalent becomes available from Xiaomi.
Cheers
Is it worth the upgrade to pixel 5, What is your thoughts?
alwynjoshy said:
Is it worth the upgrade to pixel 5, What is your thoughts?
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I don't think it's an upgrade so I'm sticking with the 4xl. It'll probably come down to a few things.
Telephoto or ultra wide
Face unlock or fingerprint
Big forehead or hole punch front (I usually look at the screen and not the bezels when I'm using my phone so bezels are fine)
Battery life won't be that much different especially when the P5 battery save feature comes to the P4XL.
Battery life is said to be AMAZEBALLS on the Pixel 5, significantly better than the Pixel 4 XL
Screen brightness is supposed to be a lot better
Form factor, a much easier device to one hand
In this COVID time wearing masks, I'll take a fingerprint scanner over FaceID
I'm waiting for the Pixel 6. I haven't felt the need for a year to year update since getting the Pixel 2 XL.
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Personally no. I brought one but sent it back after trying it for a while.
I found it a backwards step from the 4XL. For me it was the hole punch, smaller screen and the top under screen speaker that put me off. Fingerprint unlock was nice in this current mask climate, it did feel nice and light in the hand and I do like the idea of reverse wireless charging.
The battery life on my 4xl is pretty good, I like face unlock and I'll rather have a bezel than a hole punch camera which makes the top notification bar a lot deeper, thus losing more screen space.
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Personally no. I brought one but sent it back after trying it for a while.
I found it a backwards step from the 4XL. For me it was the hole punch, smaller screen and the top under screen speaker that put me off. Fingerprint unlock was nice in this current mask climate, it did feel nice and light in the hand and I do like the idea of reverse wireless charging.
The battery life on my 4xl is pretty good, I like face unlock and I'll rather have a bezel than a hole punch camera which makes the top notification bar a lot deeper, thus losing more screen space.
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Snapdragon 8 series to 7 series, qhd+ screen to fhd, face unlock to old school finger print scanner on the back.... Not an upgrade in my book
It doesn't worth buying a pixel 5 from my point of view. I will keep my pixel4xl and waiting for pixel6.
Yep, I actually just purchased the 4XL at Best Buy. Got a price match to $600, and I had $450 in Best Buy rewards certificates, so $150 out of pocket, and another $60 for case and screen protector. I'll keep this until Pixel 6, or 7?? Pixel 5 does seem like a downgrade in many ways, and I could care less about 5G. I have Gigabit Fiber at home, and my normal phone service is more than sufficient. Battery is the only thing I don't like, but I'm ordering a battery case, and I already have a portable battery charger. Still love it.
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I was considering the P5 as I can get one through work, but I think I will stick with my 4 XL and await the Pixel 6.
I also have the pixel 4xl and feel that the pixel 5 is a downgrade to the pixel 4xl. Now that we're getting closer to the next pixel release I'm glad I waited. It will be super interesting how tensor chip will be compared to apples bionic or Samsung exynos chips. The only thing I don't like is having a hole punch in the middle of the screen. If prefer it in the corner if we had to have one. I will also miss face unlock. It's simple and you don't have to do anything but look and it does the rest compared to an iphone where it unlocks then have to swipe to go to do what you wanna do. I also would miss soli especially while driving. Super helpful being able to swipe your hand for next track or pause. Most of the time it works for me but others have a hard time with it. But losing soli is not a deal breaker
If you have a 4XL I wouldn't call it an upgrade. You'd be better served waiting for the pixel 6/pro.
Only way I'll end up with a Pixel 5 is if my 4XL bits it on me. I sure hope that doesn't happen! Not upgrade material imo. Maybe if I didn't already have the 4xl... Looking forward to the 6a.