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How fragile? plus Pixel 2 XL comparison question

The glass back on this phone makes me a little nervous. Why have that "feature" at all? I've managed to avoid damaging my phones for long periods, including a glass backed Nexus 4 that I used for at least a few years, but they do fall sometimes and we don't always get lucky. How fragile is the glass on the back of the phone? For that matter, how fragile is the glass on the display? Do all colors have the same glass back or are some other materials?
I can find a Pixel 2 XL on eBay or Swappa for a similar price. But it wouldn't have a warranty. Aside from that, is there any reason why the OP6 would be a wiser purchase than the Pixel 2 XL? I value display quality, ability to root and customize, T-Mobile reception in the US. I don't demand a top of the line camera and/or audio quality, but I'd prefer something close enough. More subjective, this question, I know....
Thoughts are welcome.

I can't say how fragile, what I can say is mine took a waist high drop onto concrete. It had the OnePlus case on it and landed pretty much directly on the corner. I thought for sure it was broke but it wasn't. That's been my only drop so can't offer anything outside that.
I do agree with the question on why the glass back with no wireless charging but whatever, it's what they did. I had the OnePlus 1 since new that got passed to my daughter and actually, just about 2 weeks ago she finally killed it by dropping it, screen shattered. Phone was used heavily for several years. I also had the OnePlus 3 from new that my son has now, it's just fine. I think overall, build qualities pretty good on OnePlus devices but you can break anything.

Mine fine from 2 feet approximately 5 times and from approx 6 feet 1 time and from 3 feet approx 2 or 3 times. I am rocking a spigen case worth the official tempered glass protector. But without that my 6 feet drop would have shattered atleast 1 glass for sure. And no other phone could also survive it. Glass is glass and metal is metal. But i bet that the oneplus 6 would be a worthy buy.

(this is kinda personal preference, but here goes: )
Reasons to get Pixel 2 XL:
-Front facing speakers
-Best smartphonecamera (cause of Google camera)
Reasons to get Oneplus 6
- Better display (even with the lower resolution)
- SD 845
- lower price
- Headphone jack
- More RAM
- Probably longer official software support.
(When official Google camera gets released for SD845, i'm not certain the Pixel 2 XL will have the better camera, current ported Google camera for Oneplus 6 is already getting really good)

Cracked screen - Way forward

Stumbled yesterday avoiding an old lady. Dropped my phone in the process onto the pavement from a couple of feet.
Ended up with a cracked screen across the top (pretty patterns etc etc) Screen seems still responsive.
Anyway, what surprised me was the damage caused after a pathetic drop. Really thought this phone was a bit more robust. HAd the plastic case on the body a screen protector too. My first ever cracked screen. Gutted.
Costs so far using threads here and elsewhere are £150 ish. With the 7.1 coming out in a few weeks here in the UK should I hang fire and buy a new 7.1?
Just updated to Pie yesterday too.....:silly:

7.1 is far inferior to the 7 plus.
Slower SoC, smaller battery. And pretty much same price.

MatthiasDS said:
7.1 is far inferior to the 7 plus.
Slower SoC, smaller battery. And pretty much same price.
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Looks to me like they have added this display thing and taken away what makes the phone a good phone.
They have wayyyy too many phones out at the moment.

divvykev said:
Looks to me like they have added this display thing and taken away what makes the phone a good phone.
They have wayyyy too many phones out at the moment.
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Well it's actually the successor to the Nokia 7, which wasn't widely available. The 7 Plus will probably get a successor in the 7.1 Plus, which is tipped to get a Snapdragon 710.

divvykev said:
Stumbled yesterday avoiding an old lady. Dropped my phone in the process onto the pavement from a couple of feet.
Ended up with a cracked screen across the top (pretty patterns etc etc) Screen seems still responsive.
Anyway, what surprised me was the damage caused after a pathetic drop. Really thought this phone was a bit more robust. HAd the plastic case on the body a screen protector too. My first ever cracked screen. Gutted.
Costs so far using threads here and elsewhere are £150 ish. With the 7.1 coming out in a few weeks here in the UK should I hang fire and buy a new 7.1?
Just updated to Pie yesterday too.....:silly:
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If you decide to send the phone in for repairs make sure you take a lot of photos of the phone before sending it.
I cracked the screen also and send it to repair using HMD repair service. Below a few thoughts:
Pros:
- collection, repair and delivery was quick - 7 days from collection to delivery back.
Cons:
- Phone came back with a new scratch on the back (about 3mm long) which I am sure was not there before I send it for repair.
- The replacement screen has a very thin scratch which I saw only 2 weeks after the phone was delivered (I was in holidays when it arrived).
First I thought that the screen is not Gorilla Glass, but since the repair (2 months ago) I have no other scratch on the phone. I guess (I am not sure though, just my impression) they are using grade B screens for replacement.
I did not reported to repair center because it is barely visible and because it was 2 weeks after the delivery.
Also because all the hassle to change phones and setup again.
So if the crack is not too bad (my screen was still working also, but was completely shattered on one side) I would recommend to keep using the phone until they release Nokia 10 and put the £150 towards that.

trveller72 said:
If you decide to send the phone in for repairs make sure you take a lot of photos of the phone before sending it.
I cracked the screen also and send it to repair using HMD repair service. Below a few thoughts:
Pros:
- collection, repair and delivery was quick - 7 days from collection to delivery back.
Cons:
- Phone came back with a new scratch on the back (about 3mm long) which I am sure was not there before I send it for repair.
- The replacement screen has a very thin scratch which I saw only 2 weeks after the phone was delivered (I was in holidays when it arrived).
First I thought that the screen is not Gorilla Glass, but since the repair (2 months ago) I have no other scratch on the phone. I guess (I am not sure though, just my impression) they are using grade B screens for replacement.
I did not reported to repair center because it is barely visible and because it was 2 weeks after the delivery.
Also because all the hassle to change phones and setup again.
So if the crack is not too bad (my screen was still working also, but was completely shattered on one side) I would recommend to keep using the phone until they release Nokia 10 and put the £150 towards that.
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Have lost trust in HMD as a setup. The way they have messed up the updates is something and your not the only one who has mentioned this issue with repairs to me. The drop was hardly anything but the damage is quite scary.
May look at Moto 6 next.

divvykev said:
Have lost trust in HMD as a setup. The way they have messed up the updates is something and your not the only one who has mentioned this issue with repairs to me. The drop was hardly anything but the damage is quite scary.
May look at Moto 6 next.
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I do not think it's HMD's fault only.
A friend had to send an S8 plus to have the screen replaced, and same thing happened to him also. I think it's a 'common practice'.
Moto G6 (I asume) is miles away specs vise compared to Nokia 7+ and no Android one.

Bought a new 7 Plus. Sod it. Better the devil you know. Thanks for all guidance and advice folks.

Cracked Screen

Hey everyone,
It's been a while since I last posted on here, and in attempting to avoid a pessimistic undertone, the G7 Power is actually a really good phone: the battery really does last for ages (I charge it once every two days, and it has never been below 40%), and it is surprisingly loud (everywhere). I am a pretty casual user now, rarely playing games or other media, but I am impressed with the difference compared to upgrading from a Moto G4. Some apps which appear as though they were designed for more premium screens - logos, icons, widgets - definitely lose some fidelity around the edges and these can look a bit poor on the 720p screen, but I have become oblivious (or distracted from) a lot of the finer details already.
And now the question: where, and how, would I be able to repair a cracked screen?
It feels like a pretty silly question; but the screen has 'developed' a crack from the bottom-right corner of the new notch, to about 2cm underneath the power button.
I say develop, as the phone is always within eyesight or kept in a pocket. It has never been dropped onto a surface harder than a pillow, and the case/screen protectors are still yet to arrive. It has been in my possession for about 12 days, and it lasted for 6/7 of those. I still have no clue when or why the crack appeared.
The question is a combination of where/when/how, I have contacted Motorola Technical Support, and explained the situation leading up to the cracked screen. The response was (exactly): "we do not process repair of the screen, what we offer is replacement of the whole device", they also said that this service will cost a fee (shipping + device) depending on the IMEI information. A single crack on the screen resulting in the replacement of a whole device seems pretty excessive, and the support member did not acknowledge that it is a brand new phone, or that it is* under warranty.
This is the first cracked screen from all previous handsets, so I am not sure what to do: is there any way to avoid replacing the whole device? How does this effect any warranty? What if I/whomever repairs the device creates other issues? When would services and replacement parts become available? XDA always has a someone whom is knowledgeable in these areas, and it would be great to hear some helpful advice from the community on how to proceed,
Thanks all,
MrSpuddy
(Also - the phone was bought directly from the Lenovo website - and I was hopeful that the "one free screen replacement" still worked)

mrSpuddy said:
Hey everyone,
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And now the question: where, and how, would I be able to repair a cracked screen?
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Please see the teardown video here: https://forums.androidcentral.com/m...-power-xt1955-disassembly-teardown-video.html
I repair a lot of phones as a hobby. And phone that are assembled front to back are hard as hell to fix. You have to remove pretty much everything to get to the screen. Contrast that with something like the Pixel phone where the screen is connected last. You just have to pry up the screen and unplug the cable. Fixing the screen on the Moto G7 may not be worth it.
My recommendation is to use your phone as long as you can and then buy a new one. Hopefully by then it will not be as expensive as it is now. I know, it is not much of a solution...

zerogun said:
Please see the teardown video here: https://forums.androidcentral.com/m...-power-xt1955-disassembly-teardown-video.html
I repair a lot of phones as a hobby. And phone that are assembled front to back are hard as hell to fix. You have to remove pretty much everything to get to the screen. Contrast that with something like the Pixel phone where the screen is connected last. You just have to pry up the screen and unplug the cable. Fixing the screen on the Moto G7 may not be worth it.
My recommendation is to use your phone as long as you can and then buy a new one. Hopefully by then it will not be as expensive as it is now. I know, it is not much of a solution...
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The solution provided by the company was just to buy a new phone; which was not very helpful at all. My collection of screen protectors arrived, and the one on the phone is a lot more robust than the original screen.
Thank you for providing the video.

These screens are very easy to replace... Multiple times...
I have the moto g7 and I have replaced the screen four times, and I'm getting another screen in the mail this weekend, because this *[email protected]_-HJN' SUCKS DONKEY WHATEVER. I like the phone, but for some reason, the screen doesn't like to stay in one piece. All you need is a hair dryer and a new screen. Amazon has them. But you have to watch out; there are counterfeits out there. Buy from two different vendors, and return the counterfeit. Here's how to tell: make sure the printing on the ribbon cable is the same as the one you're replacing. Make sure that the printing on the back plate is the same as the original. You won't know until you take the screen off, which replacement is legit. But it's just one connector and some glue. Way easy, or mail it to me and I'll fix it.

Blank screen repair

My Pixel screen stopped working. It vibrates and makes the noises it should, but nothing shows up on screen. If I squeeze the device hard in certain places the screen will flash briefly. WIll replacing the screen assembly put it back in service? It is worth mentioning that I have already pried out the old screen (of course breaking it in doing so), so any alternative fixes aren't gonna help much. Just trying to see if buying a new screen assembly would be a waste of money or not.
I would really like to try out the new F(x)tec Pro 1, but am not in the financial position to buy a new flagship phone, so have been getting by with my ancient Desire Z/G2 on Android 2.3.3. Hopefully I can get the Pixel to last me another half year or more.

Question Considering buying the Asus ROG Phone 5S, have some questions.

So the cat knocked my OP7P off the bedside table while it was charging which has screwed up the charging port (have confirmed it isn't the cable) and now it will barely charge, so I'm in need of a new phone.
I'm liking that the Asus ROG Phone 5/5S has a 144 Hz screen and a huge battery. But:
With the resolution, is the 1080 × 2448 ok? Do you see the pixels at all? Like is it completely smooth?
Also, with the software, does when you enable invert colours mode and blue light filter mode (might be called night mode, alternatively) at the same time (try it on a white background with black text) does the blue light filter mode apply over the invert colours mode (thus making the text red) or does it apply under the invert colours mode (thus making text appear blue), or does invert colours ignore the blue light filter mode (working like it is disabled)?
And how is the battery? What is screen on time like when for example just web browsing or watching YouTube in 144 Hz mode? What is the SoT like when it is on 60 Hz mode. (I ask because my OP7P has crappy SoT when in 120 Hz mode.)
And finally, how is Asus software 2-3 years out from release. I like to keep my phones for about 2 years, how do you think the software support will be 2 years from now (given that the 5 is now almost a year old)? Regarding smoothness and Android version updates in particular.
Edit: does the 5S have a Tencent version? I haven't been able to find any info saying there is, and the site I'll be buying from offers the Tencent version of other phones but not this one.
Thank you!

the oneplus 7 pro is still a great phone by today's standards, why dont you try getting the port repaired? it wont be too expensive.
i dont own an rog phone 5s, but from my experience with oth 1080p and 1440p phone screens, you cant really tell the difference - heck you cant even see the pixels too clearly on a 720p screen. i thought my old phone was 1080p when comparing it with my 1080p phone, turns out mine was 720p the entire time! So yeah, the screen should be just fine.
One thing i will warn you about is that "gaming phones" usually dont have the best cameras, for example, you wont be getting OIS in the rog 5s, whereas your oneplus 7 pro does have that. gamging phones are more about maximising performance, whereas normal flagships are all-rounders. no doubt tho, the rog 5s will surely be faster than your 7 pro (mainly in games), as it has the 888+ chipset

why dont you try getting the port repaired? it wont be too expensive
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There are no authorised service centres available in my country, unfortunately, and if I'm going to have to back up and restore data I want to do it to a new phone, not the same phone (this is because I don't like to send my phone in to places that require your lock code, which all the places in my country ask for when doing a repair, so I wipe the phone before I send it in).
Also, I didn't want to wait on the parts which could take like 1-2 months based on the estimates I'm getting from eBay (no parts shops for OnePlus in my country) like at the rate that this port is getting worse, I'll need a new phone before the parts arrive
I could try to repair it myself (I worked in a phone repair shop once), like I think I could get the back off without damaging it I suppose I have nothing to lose other than the back glass lol
And, wow, I didn't realise it didn't have OIS. That sucks big time. Considering the OP10 (when it's out) instead now lol
Anyway, you're right, I'll try to repair it first, then if that fails then I'll get a new phone

I don't think they'd need your lock code to change a charging port tho, all they have to do is test if it works after the repair

If you want to sell the oneplus let me know LOL
At a HUGE discount of course

PhotonIce said:
I don't think they'd need your lock code to change a charging port tho, all they have to do is test if it works after the repair
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Yeah, true. Though what plays on my mind was that we were authorised repairers for a few manufacturers, and certain manufacturers (can't remember which ones) required a freaking software reset to complete simple repairs like that. Like hwhat. I suppose I could have asked OnePlus, but I also don't have a spare phone to use while it's sent away.
Either way, I bought the part (charging port+flex and rear adhesive) and I'm gonna try the repair lol.

if the charging port is attached to the flex, then it shouldnt be too tough. be sure to look for a disassembly guide for your phone, so that you dont damage it. use plenty of heat (but not too much) and be careful when prying on the back of the phone as replacing the glass will cost you, and its near impossible to reapply broken glass after removing it, as if you break it during removal it will be completely destroyed by the time you get it off your phone. cheap chinese picks break easily, so if your buying those then buy a couple, and make sure to get the triangular ones, as they are the most effective. its also worth it to use a suction cup to pull the glass back, as it prevents you from possibly putting uneven pressure or damaging the back glass.

PhotonIce said:
if the charging port is attached to the flex, then it shouldnt be too tough. be sure to look for a disassembly guide for your phone, so that you dont damage it. use plenty of heat (but not too much) and be careful when prying on the back of the phone as replacing the glass will cost you, and its near impossible to reapply broken glass after removing it, as if you break it during removal it will be completely destroyed by the time you get it off your phone. cheap chinese picks break easily, so if your buying those then buy a couple, and make sure to get the triangular ones, as they are the most effective. its also worth it to use a suction cup to pull the glass back, as it prevents you from possibly putting uneven pressure or damaging the back glass.
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Thanks heaps for the tips! Much appreciated!
Would a hair dryer be enough to heat the rear of the phone to a serviceable temperature?

it should be possible, although it would be both tricky and risky. depends on how strong the adhesive is i guess