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I just stopped by my local Verizon store, and my local Best Buy, and both had demo stations set up.
Some quick impressions:
The build quality is very nice. The matte etched glass looks better than I was expecting.
The notch looks much better in person. It's really not bad at all. I think everyone is reacting to close-up photos blown up on their monitor, and don't think about the real-world size of the device. However, the Verizon demo app running on the XL has the background of the notification bar blacked out to hide the notch.
The "chin" isn't that bad either (for the same reasons), especially given the trade-off of getting front-facing speakers.
The "Not Pink" is very subtle, but doesn't really look that good to me. However, that is a purely subjective opinion, and others may think it looks great.
Plenty of people are saying that the notch "isn't so bad" when the phone is in your hands, and while I'm more than happy to agree I'll say this - you shouldn't be spending this kind of money on a product that has something that "isn't so bad". The 128GB variant costs well over $1k with taxes included.. I shouldn't be settling for much when spending that kind of money on a smartphone. Headphone jacks, Micro SD compatibility, etc. are things that I am willing to forgive, but the notch might be a bit too much to swallow. We'll see, I get my Pixel 3 XL around the 26th. If I really can't stand it, it'll go back to Google and OnePlus will likely earn my money with their beautiful design and affordability.
Also, the notch doesn't seem so bad on its own - sure; but I'm sure most would feel different if they hold OnePlus' upcoming 6T in one hand and the Pixel 3 XL in the other. The teardrop notch will shame the Pixel 3 XL. Here's to hoping that the software on the 6T can somewhat match what Google's doing, as that's Google's biggest selling point.
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Plenty of people are saying that the notch "isn't so bad" when the phone is in your hands, and while I'm more than happy to agree I'll say this - you shouldn't be spending this kind of money on a product that has something that "isn't so bad". The 128GB variant costs well over $1k with taxes included.. I shouldn't be settling for much when spending that kind of money on a smartphone. Headphone jacks, Micro SD compatibility, etc. are things that I am willing to forgive, but the notch might be a bit too much to swallow. We'll see, I get my Pixel 3 XL around the 26th. If I really can't stand it, it'll go back to Google and OnePlus will likely earn my money with their beautiful design and affordability.
Also, the notch doesn't seem so bad on its own - sure; but I'm sure most would feel different if they hold OnePlus' upcoming 6T in one hand and the Pixel 3 XL in the other. The teardrop notch will shame the Pixel 3 XL. Here's to hoping that the software on the 6T can somewhat match what Google's doing, as that's Google's biggest selling point.
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Wellu won't, once u keep using pixel its hard to go back to anything else, basically google doesn't give a f... Ant how the notch looks, they are sellin the best software that's it, yes i agree the notch is ugly but i cant imagine myself using anything else after havin 2 xl for nearly a year
misiokicio said:
Wellu won't, once u keep using pixel its hard to go back to anything else, basically google doesn't give a f... Ant how the notch looks, they are selling the best software that's it, yes i agree the notch is ugly but i cant imagine myself using anything else after having 2 xl for nearly a year
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I feel the same way as you do...but if this phone isn't rootable / ROM-able (because of this dam Titan Chip on Board)....it wont be the same as previous pixel/nexus devices.....that will likely be a deal breaker. It already has less battery, no additional ram, huge notch, no LED notification light.....not being rootable/ROM-able will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Edit: I just came back from the Verizon store as well.....they had the phone in all 3 colors and the pixel stand. The phone looks nice. Lets just hope for root. Also the haptic feedback to me didn't seem better than the P2XL....I heard a few reviews online mention it was considerably improved and the Russian review even claimed it may be better than the iPhone's vibration motor. It didn't feel that way to me tho.
I went to a Verizon store today and check out the 3 and 3 xl myself. I have to say, I DO like it a lot! Like the OP said, in person, the notch is NOT that bad. Having said that, if anyone comes up with a way to partially hide it, I'll still be doing that. I didn't have long to play with it (on lunch from work), but here's what I got:
The screen is WAY better than the 2 xl. Way better. I did not notice any shift either. Compared to my 2 xl, it was definitely a huge improvement. Everything just looks better/clearer.
The glass back was actually pretty cool. You almost wouldn't know it was all glass. However, the matte finish ends just before the edges. That I don't like. The edges are smooth and somewhat slippery. They really should have extended the matte finish onto the edges.
The phone was definitely snappier. I have mine adjusted to .5 for all animations and such, and the 3 xl was much more smooth. I'm sure it will be super quick once that option is changed to .5 when I have mine in hand.
The chin is pretty much identical to the 2 xl. It does not bother me one bit. I would much rather have dual front facing speakers and a chin/notch/forehead than not.
I couldn't really test much else out as I didn't have time. As the OP mentioned, the dev settings were password locked, so, I couldn't play with the hide notch or animation settings. I will say that I was really on the fence on this. I wasn't even going to get one at all. I decided to last minute just to see, and send it back if I didn't like it. Now I'm excited for it's arrival next week. I think I'll be very happy with this.
All in all, it's a minor upgrade to the 2's. Even though the screen is much better, the speakers, and the camera's as well, it's not a huge difference. But, including the stand, my monthly payments are only going to be about 3 bucks more a month, so, to me, that's worth it.
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I went to a Verizon store today and check out the 3 and 3 xl myself. I have to say, I DO like it a lot! Like the OP said, in person, the notch is NOT that bad. Having said that, if anyone comes up with a way to partially hide it, I'll still be doing that. I didn't have long to play with it (on lunch from work), but here's what I got:
The screen is WAY better than the 2 xl. Way better. I did not notice any shift either. Compared to my 2 xl, it was definitely a huge improvement. Everything just looks better/clearer.
The glass back was actually pretty cool. You almost wouldn't know it was all glass. However, the matte finish ends just before the edges. That I don't like. The edges are smooth and somewhat slippery. They really should have extended the matte finish onto the edges.
The phone was definitely snappier. I have mine adjusted to .5 for all animations and such, and the 3 xl was much more smooth. I'm sure it will be super quick once that option is changed to .5 when I have mine in hand.
The chin is pretty much identical to the 2 xl. It does not bother me one bit. I would much rather have dual front facing speakers and a chin/notch/forehead than not.
I couldn't really test much else out as I didn't have time. As the OP mentioned, the dev settings were password locked, so, I couldn't play with the hide notch or animation settings. I will say that I was really on the fence on this. I wasn't even going to get one at all. I decided to last minute just to see, and send it back if I didn't like it. Now I'm excited for it's arrival next week. I think I'll be very happy with this.
All in all, it's a minor upgrade to the 2's. Even though the screen is much better, the speakers, and the camera's as well, it's not a huge difference. But, including the stand, my monthly payments are only going to be about 3 bucks more a month, so, to me, that's worth it.
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To me the chin on the 3XL was about 1mm thicker the than the chin on the 2XL. Not sure why...but it is slightly bigger. I could tell thought that it wouldn't take me long to get used to the notch.
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I just stopped by my local Verizon store, and my local Best Buy, and both had demo stations set up.
Some quick impressions:
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The notch looks much better in person. It's really not bad at all. I think everyone is reacting to close-up photos blown up on their monitor, and don't think about the real-world size of the device. However, the Verizon demo app running on the XL has the background of the notification bar blacked out to hide the notch.
The "chin" isn't that bad either (for the same reasons), especially given the trade-off of getting front-facing speakers.
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About 4 months ago, my cousin got his hands on a Pixel 3 XL since his company does QA testing for Google devices. When I asked about the notch at that point, he said that it really is not bad in person. He played with my OnePlus 6 and told me the 3 XL notch isn't any worse, in real world usage. And now the reviews, including yours, seem to agree with what he told me. Now I'm curious to go see one for myself.
I really don't mind the chin, personally, just because front facing speakers would be amazing. The single bottom facing speaker on my OnePlus 6 really is not good at all.
Unfortunately, the immediate deal breaker for me is the 4GB RAM. Especially at that $899 price point. I'm not a spec chaser, by any means. But 4GB, at least in my usage, is not enough. Looking at the RAM usage of my OnePlus 6, I average 4.2GB - 4.4GB on a daily basis with normal usage. With my 2 XL, I'd find that the system would have to close down processes quite frequently to keep RAM in check. This lead to many app redraws throughout the day. It slowed the phone down and got quite annoying. Since switching to the OnePlus 6 with 8GB RAM (6GB would have been plenty), those issues are resolved. So, while I'd love to get that Pixel camera back and wireless charging would be great, I simply can't justify the cost for a phone that will inevitably be slower than my OnePlus 6. I'll hold out to see what the OnePlus 6T offers.
I already ordered the XL, however I checked out the phones in Verizon as well and the regular 3 seemed really nice as well! I'd be totally fine with it
Went to a Verizon store, they had two Pixel 3 XL's (black and pink) and one Pixel 3 (white).
The glass on the front is a lot flatter than the 2 XL glass. The active area of the screen doesn't seem to come too close to the curved edges, so full coverage glass screen protectors should be a lot easier to design and attach compared to the ones for 2 XL.
The third item under Settings / Display / Colors is Adaptive instead of Saturated.
The new OLED screens are a lot more uniform than 2 XL screens. They look less grainy, I didn't see any colored splotches either. Whites appear somewhat cold / bluish when Natural is selected under Settings / Display / Colors.
Apparently, the screen lottery is still a thing for the third generation of Pixels. The black XL screen had a noticeable red tint when viewed at an angle, while the pink XL screen had a blue tint. The tint first appears at an angle somewhat greater than for the 2 XL, so I guess that's progress. The white non-XL also had a slight reddish tint when viewed at an angle, but it was a lot less pronounced.
(Comparison photos were taken at 100% brightness, natural colors, white and dark gray screen test image. Image quality is not great, as I was trying to dodge reflections and glare and keep the tethered display units in place.)
All 3 phones had 64 Gb of internal memory. Both XL's had Micron storage and the non-XL had an SK Hynix chip. All 3 units had Micron-branded RAM.
Android version was listed as 9, no 9.1. yet.
After seeing the demo units, I'm feeling OK about my black 3 XL 128 Gb order.
bsg411 said:
I feel the same way as you do...but if this phone isn't rootable / ROM-able (because of this dam Titan Chip on Board)....it wont be the same as previous pixel/nexus devices.....that will likely be a deal breaker. It already has less battery, no additional ram, huge notch, no LED notification light.....not being rootable/ROM-able will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Edit: I just came back from the Verizon store as well.....they had the phone in all 3 colors and the pixel stand. The phone looks nice. Lets just hope for root. Also the haptic feedback to me didn't seem better than the P2XL....I heard a few reviews online mention it was considerably improved and the Russian review even claimed it may be better than the iPhone's vibration motor. It didn't feel that way to me tho.
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Do some more research before saying it can't be rooted. Nothing is unbreakable, it's a matter of time and effort. Without the phone in hand we know nothing.
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Kisakuku said:
Went to a Verizon store, they had two Pixel 3 XL's (black and pink) and one Pixel 3 (white).
The glass on the front is a lot flatter than the 2 XL glass. The active area of the screen doesn't seem to come too close to the curved edges, so full coverage glass screen protectors should be a lot easier to design and attach compared to the ones for 2 XL.
The third item under Settings / Display / Colors is Adaptive instead of Saturated.
The new OLED screens are a lot more uniform than 2 XL screens. They look less grainy, I didn't see any colored splotches either. Whites appear somewhat cold / bluish when Natural is selected under Settings / Display / Colors.
Apparently, the screen lottery is still a thing for the third generation of Pixels. The black XL screen had a noticeable red tint when viewed at an angle, while the pink XL screen had a blue tint. The tint first appears at an angle somewhat greater than for the 2 XL, so I guess that's progress. The white non-XL also had a slight reddish tint when viewed at an angle, but it was a lot less pronounced.
(Comparison photos were taken at 100% brightness, natural colors, white and dark gray screen test image. Image quality is not great, as I was trying to dodge reflections and glare and keep the tethered display units in place.)
All 3 phones had 64 Gb of internal memory. Both XL's had Micron storage and the non-XL had an SK Hynix chip. All 3 units had Micron-branded RAM.
Android version was listed as 9, no 9.1. yet.
After seeing the demo units, I'm feeling OK about my black 3 XL 128 Gb order.
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Great post - thank you. What does Device State Locked mean? Is that network sim locked or bootloader locked?
micks_address said:
Great post - thank you. What does Device State Locked mean? Is that network sim locked or bootloader locked?
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locked bootloader.
uicnren said:
locked bootloader.
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Thanks - they are likely to be sim unlocked? Id really love to buy one next Thursday while in the US if I could.. I don't have the funds to pre order on google store till Thursday and even if I did I don't think it would be delivered to my hotel in providence in time.. id be afraid I wouldn't have it by checkout time Friday morning and have to leave without it. I guess the sensible thing to do is bite my lip and have patience for 1st week of November release in Ireland/Uk...
I'm not sure even if I knew someone with a Verizon account could they just buy one for me with my cash and hand it over or would they have to sign up to some sort of Verizon contract extension.. etc... my trip coming one week too early
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i chatted online with verizon rep and they said most phones you can buy with one month sim once off payment with no contract.. she sad they don't have info on pixel 3 yet and that with new phones it can be some time before its available.. probably still worth my while checking a store when i get there thursday to see what options are
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Do some more research before saying it can't be rooted. Nothing is unbreakable, it's a matter of time and effort. Without the phone in hand we know nothing.
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I never said its not rootable... I said it may not be. But yes we will have to wait and see. Deestroy from twrp has his order in so I'm hoping for the best.
God I hope there's no screen 'lottery' this time... That was not a post I wanted to see. The 3 and 3xl units I looked at were perfect. No shift whatsoever. Hopefully the demo units from the other post were just flukes. After 3 tries, my 2 xl screen is nearly perfect. I am NOT doing that again this time. If my 3xl comes and has bad blue (or red) shift, it's going back. Seriously, after last year, if Google hasn't done anything about quality control, I actually will likely be looking at other OEM's... I don't want to, but I'm not playing this game anymore. Anyway, I guess we'll see next week!
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Thanks - they are likely to be sim unlocked? Id really love to buy one next Thursday while in the US if I could.. I don't have the funds to pre order on google store till Thursday and even if I did I don't think it would be delivered to my hotel in providence in time.. id be afraid I wouldn't have it by checkout time Friday morning and have to leave without it. I guess the sensible thing to do is bite my lip and have patience for 1st week of November release in Ireland/Uk...
I'm not sure even if I knew someone with a Verizon account could they just buy one for me with my cash and hand it over or would they have to sign up to some sort of Verizon contract extension.. etc... my trip coming one week too early
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i chatted online with verizon rep and they said most phones you can buy with one month sim once off payment with no contract.. she sad they don't have info on pixel 3 yet and that with new phones it can be some time before its available.. probably still worth my while checking a store when i get there thursday to see what options are
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All the variants sold in the USA should be sim/carrier unlocked. There is only a few (or maybe only one) carrier in the UK who sold them with SIM lock,
However, I do not believe the phones will be available for sale until Friday the 19th, that is official release date I believe.
So i went to look at the demo units at my local VZ store and the notch isn't too bad and could probably live with it. from playing around with it is seems the software implementation around the notch is terrible. would it have killed them to round the edges on the top when the app didn't go into the notch area. it wouldn't auto rotate a little button to rotate showed up on the bottom when i rotated the phone and auto rotate was on i guess there was another option i didn't really look too hard for. The screen is nicer compared to my Pixel 2 XL i had with me, it goes more to each side edge so it does feel a bit bigger in that aspect but when an app stops at the notch it feels the same height, just my take on it.
One issue both demo units had that could be a big problem is the top left corner of the back the side with the camera felt squishy , when i pressed on it i could see it move i could even fit my nail under and it felt like it would start to come apart. I hope it just being a demo unit with those blocky brackets on the back adding extra stress to the back but it was only that corner.
Now im even more on the fence lol
uicnren said:
All the variants sold in the USA should be sim/carrier unlocked. There is only a few (or maybe only one) carrier in the UK who sold them with SIM lock,
However, I do not believe the phones will be available for sale until Friday the 19th, that is official release date I believe.
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Thanks I'm there all day Friday. I've had various responses from best buy chat..some say they are sim locked and I can't buy without a Verizon account. Others say that I can pay once off and walk away..will test the water's next week
micks_address said:
Thanks I'm there all day Friday. I've had various responses from best buy chat..some say they are sim locked and I can't buy without a Verizon account. Others say that I can pay once off and walk away..will test the water's next week
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Do be aware best buy only sells the Verizon variant, that will come with a locked bootloader, if they follow past history it wont be unlockable, at least for a long time, if ever.
If you plan to root and/or ROM the device you will need an unlockable bootloader to do so.
Also, you can do a one time payment for the phone online @ best buy site, no reason you cannot do the same in the store. Having said that, in the past, if you do one-time pay, they have tried to raise the price by $100. They tried it with me when buying iPhones, but you just tell them to check store.google.com and they have to price match.
uicnren said:
Do be aware best buy only sells the Verizon variant, that will come with a locked bootloader, if they follow past history it wont be unlockable, at least for a long time, if ever.
If you plan to root and/or ROM the device you will need an unlockable bootloader to do so.
Also, you can do a one time payment for the phone online @ best buy site, no reason you cannot do the same in the store. Having said that, in the past, if you do one-time pay, they have tried to raise the price by $100. They tried it with me when buying iPhones, but you just tell them to check store.google.com and they have to price match.
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If you do the one time payment payment on the best buy site does it ask for any verizon account details?
Pros:
It’s new. Looks a little nicer.
Can (at some point) take better pictures in the dark. The 2XL may get this?
Can answer calls for you. The 2XL will get this.
Wireless charging. But...
Screen is a little bigger, even without notch.
While the notch is ugly it does give you more space on the screen but do we really need it?
The sound is fuller. But…
Water resistant. But…
Cons:
With tax its $1100. With Charger and case it’s $1200
Google jerked me around for a month to get it to me.
They emailed there was a $50 Google store credit for ordering in the first few days but I ordered with Google Project Fi so that Google Store order I’m looking at is not a Google Store order. ???
It’s about $50 more and they are giving like $50 less this year for the trade in.
The Notch. It not so much that it is but what they gave up to get it. They should have just kept the same set up the 2 XL had and made the screen a little taller and wider. I’m ok with the notch as I’m one that wants the better speakers but they made one smaller and the sound is not the same and it’s the one you take calls (and use for the speaker phone?) on so I’d really rather they had not done this. It also messes up the screen when watching movies. On the 2 XL you can zoom most stuff a little a get full symmetric screen and not worry about burn in. But on the 3XL it chops off and squares the notch end. It just hurts my head for some reason, with the other end rounded.
Slow charging is still messed up. The 2XL has this issue somewhat but it will charge. A few times now I've come to find the 3XL has not charged at all and this morning it was at 49% but when I went to bed it was at 78% so what the heck?
The speakers do have a fuller sound but one is louder than the other and then there is the vibration. The vibration doesn’t bother me while holding it but there is distortion and a rattle like effect. I hear it in some of the notification sounds. If you go to settings, sound, advanced and then default notification sound, it should be Popcorn and every time at the end of it there is a rattle like buzzing. Not there on the 2XL.
The screen is pink. The 2XL is a little on the blue side but then the 3XL is pink. Mostly what you get used to I guess but I don’t like the pink.
Screen sensitivity. It’s really odd. Like I can double tap 4 or 5 times in a row and nothing happens but then it will work 4 or 5 times in a row. Like something is running in the background and it’s not see the touches. The fingerprint scroll is the same. Works for a time and then doesn’t. I also have issues scrolling up/down left/right once I’m logged in and using the phone. The 2XL is fine with this very basic stuff.
I've already seen pics of a few with glass backs broken. Wireless charging is cool but not sure if this is worth it.
I’m guessing none of these issues will be solved by software updates or swapping for another phone.
I think the 3XL we be worth even less next year than the 2XL is now.
The annual phone upgrade was a bummer this year.
So, return, swap, wait a month and get the 3XL again for like $800, keep the 2XL for another year or get the One Pulse 6T?
Tanquen said:
Pros:
It’s new. Looks a little nicer.
Can (at some point) take better pictures in the dark. The 2XL may get this?
Can answer calls for you. The 2XL will get this.
Wireless charging. But...
Screen is a little bigger, even without notch.
While the notch is ugly it does give you more space on the screen but do we really need it?
The sound is fuller. But…
Water resistant. But…
Cons:
With tax its $1100. With Charger and case it’s $1200
Google jerked me around for a month to get it to me.
They emailed there was a $50 Google store credit for ordering in the first few days but I ordered with Google Project Fi so that Google Store order I’m looking at is not a Google Store order. ???
It’s about $50 more and they are giving like $50 less this year for the trade in.
The Notch. It not so much that it is but what they gave up to get it. They should have just kept the same set up the 2 XL had and made the screen a little taller and wider. I’m ok with the notch as I’m one that wants the better speakers but they made one smaller and the sound is not the same and it’s the one you take calls (and use for the speaker phone?) on so I’d really rather they had not done this. It also messes up the screen when watching movies. On the 2 XL you can zoom most stuff a little a get full symmetric screen and not worry about burn in. But on the 3XL it chops off and squares the notch end. It just hurts my head for some reason, with the other end rounded.
Slow charging is still messed up. The 2XL has this issue somewhat but it will charge. A few times now I've come to find the 3XL has not charged at all and this morning it was at 49% but when I went to bed it was at 78% so what the heck?
The speakers do have a fuller sound but one is louder than the other and then there is the vibration. The vibration doesn’t bother me while holding it but there is distortion and a rattle like effect. I hear it in some of the notification sounds. If you go to settings, sound, advanced and then default notification sound, it should be Popcorn and every time at the end of it there is a rattle like buzzing. Not there on the 2XL.
The screen is pink. The 2XL is a little on the blue side but then the 3XL is pink. Mostly what you get used to I guess but I don’t like the pink.
Screen sensitivity. It’s really odd. Like I can double tap 4 or 5 times in a row and nothing happens but then it will work 4 or 5 times in a row. Like something is running in the background and it’s not see the touches. The fingerprint scroll is the same. Works for a time and then doesn’t. I also have issues scrolling up/down left/right once I’m logged in and using the phone. The 2XL is fine with this very basic stuff.
I've already seen pics of a few with glass backs broken. Wireless charging is cool but not sure if this is worth it.
I’m guessing none of these issues will be solved by software updates or swapping for another phone.
I think the 3XL we be worth even less next year than the 2XL is now.
The annual phone upgrade was a bummer this year.
So, return, swap, wait a month and get the 3XL again for like $800, keep the 2XL for another year or get the One Pulse 6T?
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Easy answer for me..I canceled my 3xl and got the 6t. Saved a bunch and actually really like it. Maybe next year Google
I had to send back my pixel because it was getting choppy animations at the lockscreen. If the replacement has any issues, I'm returning the phone and waiting for the S10.
Tanquen said:
Pros:
It’s new. Looks a little nicer.
Can (at some point) take better pictures in the dark. The 2XL may get this?
Can answer calls for you. The 2XL will get this.
Wireless charging. But...
Screen is a little bigger, even without notch.
While the notch is ugly it does give you more space on the screen but do we really need it?
The sound is fuller. But…
Water resistant. But…
Cons:
With tax its $1100. With Charger and case it’s $1200
Google jerked me around for a month to get it to me.
They emailed there was a $50 Google store credit for ordering in the first few days but I ordered with Google Project Fi so that Google Store order I’m looking at is not a Google Store order. ???
It’s about $50 more and they are giving like $50 less this year for the trade in.
The Notch. It not so much that it is but what they gave up to get it. They should have just kept the same set up the 2 XL had and made the screen a little taller and wider. I’m ok with the notch as I’m one that wants the better speakers but they made one smaller and the sound is not the same and it’s the one you take calls (and use for the speaker phone?) on so I’d really rather they had not done this. It also messes up the screen when watching movies. On the 2 XL you can zoom most stuff a little a get full symmetric screen and not worry about burn in. But on the 3XL it chops off and squares the notch end. It just hurts my head for some reason, with the other end rounded.
Slow charging is still messed up. The 2XL has this issue somewhat but it will charge. A few times now I've come to find the 3XL has not charged at all and this morning it was at 49% but when I went to bed it was at 78% so what the heck?
The speakers do have a fuller sound but one is louder than the other and then there is the vibration. The vibration doesn’t bother me while holding it but there is distortion and a rattle like effect. I hear it in some of the notification sounds. If you go to settings, sound, advanced and then default notification sound, it should be Popcorn and every time at the end of it there is a rattle like buzzing. Not there on the 2XL.
The screen is pink. The 2XL is a little on the blue side but then the 3XL is pink. Mostly what you get used to I guess but I don’t like the pink.
Screen sensitivity. It’s really odd. Like I can double tap 4 or 5 times in a row and nothing happens but then it will work 4 or 5 times in a row. Like something is running in the background and it’s not see the touches. The fingerprint scroll is the same. Works for a time and then doesn’t. I also have issues scrolling up/down left/right once I’m logged in and using the phone. The 2XL is fine with this very basic stuff.
I've already seen pics of a few with glass backs broken. Wireless charging is cool but not sure if this is worth it.
I’m guessing none of these issues will be solved by software updates or swapping for another phone.
I think the 3XL we be worth even less next year than the 2XL is now.
The annual phone upgrade was a bummer this year.
So, return, swap, wait a month and get the 3XL again for like $800, keep the 2XL for another year or get the One Pulse 6T?
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Pink screen do you have pictures? Honestly to me it does sound like you have a defective device. I have had no touch screen sensitivity issues some of the XL 2's had that as well but I know it was possible to improve/fix with software. I've been through 3 and incoming 4th pixel and so far all the screens have been great leaps and bounds vs my old XL 2. I've been trying to RMA for the earpiece buzzing during calls even on calls you could hear it if you put your ear up to the earpiece. Two of them were like this and the third one was 80-85% better so acceptable but it had the greyed out OEM unlock. Probably some derp at the factory put a Verizon phone into a Google box or flashed Verizon firmware on it so #4 is on its way.
You could be perfectly fine on the XL 2 and the One Plus is a good option with some sacrifices obviously. So the question is are you a Pixel/Google fan boy and are committed to their products and have to have the latest and greatest of their offerings? If yes, then I would say keep swapping out till you get one that is satisfactory to you so you can have their latest shiny. Do we need the extra screen space probably not but that's like asking do we truly need all these shiny extras . They're not really necessary per say, but they are nice to have! If no, then I would say go with the One Plus 6T as it is a solid bang for the buck if you don't mind the 1080p screen and no IP rating for water/dust resistance or no front facing speakers and a camera that probably won't be as good etc. No version 2 if you want to save money just stick with the XL 2 as most of the software features from the XL 3 will probably make their way down eventually. Hope this helps.
Here is a pic of the 2. The pink tint actually makes it a little harder for me to read the light grey text in the calendar.
Both are set to solid white backgrounds and 65% brightness and colors set to boosted.
I was going to get the OP7 pro but decided I'd try the Pixel. The price is great, especially with Best buy's 100.00 gift card they give you. 379.00 essentially. Only been 24 hours but so far it's been smooth and no hiccups. I was concerned about only 4gb of ram but haven't ran into any problems. not a huge multitasker and the games I play are minimal and simple. I'm usually on social media, text, email, and phone calls. I may still bite the bullet on the OP7 pro but I'll wait a while and see reviews and hopefully TMobile will have some demo units. That price and curved screen are making me 2nd guess that decision though. Coming from just having a 6T, I don't notice that I'm using an inferior processor and less ram. At least So far I don't.
This phone is a very good example of commodification, it's coming and I don't see anything that can stop it over the longer term. They fought this tooth and nail with PCs and they held on for quite a while but failed. I think the same will happen here. I was a hardcore phone guy, bought a new one every six months, sometimes more often than that. Always the best because the best was better, I'm talking about the kind of better that made your life a little easier every day. That's largely gone now. I traded my 3 XL for the 6T which came out a week after. I was in the Tmo store comparing them side to side and I simply could not come up with a reason why I should keep the 1k phone over the 6T which was just over half it's price. Sure the XL was better in some respects but it was also worse in some ways. Now here I am with an aXL and I don't see this trend changing.
This is just me, you may see it differently. The 7 Pro will be excellent. I'm looking at it myself but I have the feeling that I've gotten off the flagship treadmill and I'm not sure I want to get back on until something really new like foldables (that don't break before they can be released) are out there.
I agree word by word with you guys.
Oh my, that 7 looks pretty darn spiffy. Lust factor going through the roof... Down boy! DOWN!
I've had nearly every one plus device from the beginning including a 6 most recently and was planning on getting a 7 pro. But I thought about the things they improved: those were not the things that annoyed by about the 1+6. The 3a is a more well rounded phone with incredible software and I'm really enjoying the one I just picked up. Really impressed with the CPU, no studders or lag at all, it's just as fast as my OnePlus 6.
Huh, I don't see that. My 6T should be no better or worse than your 6 but when I hold them side to side and fiddle them it's no question faster. Thankfully if I'm just screwing around with this one by itself it feels fluid and satisfying for the most part, I do get some redraws and there is some hitching up at times doing things like opening the main menu but for all that it's not enough to trigger any dissatisfaction. I've had 3 OnePlus devices, like the Pixel in use they're better than they are on paper.
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Huh, I don't see that. My 6T should be no better or worse than your 6 but when I hold them side to side and fiddle them it's no question faster. Thankfully if I'm just screwing around with this one by itself it feels fluid and satisfying for the most part, I do get some redraws and there is some hitching up at times doing things like opening the main menu but for all that it's not enough to trigger any dissatisfaction. I've had 3 OnePlus devices, like the Pixel in use they're better than they are on paper.
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App load time is definitely shorter on the OnePlus and it holds way more apps in ram. I really meant that if using the pixel on its own (not side by side), it's not noticeably shower than the OP6. Really digging the software on the pixel, the built in speakers, and the haptic motor at the moment. Missing the flashlight gesture and double tap to wake
I thought 3a XL had double tap to wake, isn't it so?
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I thought 3a XL had double tap to wake, isn't it so?
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Yes it does, it works for me, I do have always on display, not sure if this is required to work though. Double tap works great for me.
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Yes it does, it works for me, I do have always on display, not sure if this is required to work though. Double tap works great for me.
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The screen has to be on in some way for double tap to wake to work. Either ambient display or always on display. If your screen is totally off, double tap to wake doesn't work.
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The screen has to be on in some way for double tap to wake to work. Either ambient display or always on display. If your screen is totally off, double tap to wake doesn't work.
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I assumed that, that is why I mentioned that I have AOD active, I always use AOD on devices that have that option and having DTW is a plus. On a different note, Google should add a way of turning off AOD at night, like most other manufactures do, I put a piece of paper on top of the proximity sensor to turn off AOD at night to achieve this xD
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App load time is definitely shorter on the OnePlus and it holds way more apps in ram. I really meant that if using the pixel on its own (not side by side), it's not noticeably shower than the OP6. Really digging the software on the pixel, the built in speakers, and the haptic motor at the moment. Missing the flashlight gesture and double tap to wake
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Ok, I got you, I had posted much the same elsewhere.
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The screen has to be on in some way for double tap to wake to work. Either ambient display or always on display. If your screen is totally off, double tap to wake doesn't work.
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There's a setting within the Ambient Display to turn in DT2W. It seems to be independent of Ambient Display. For example, I have that box checked, but not AOD, and I can double tap to bring up Ambient Display. I can then double tap again to bring up the normal lock screen. So screen can be off as long as that box is checked.
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There's a setting within the Ambient Display to turn in DT2W. It seems to be independent of Ambient Display. For example, I have that box checked, but not AOD, and I can double tap to bring up Ambient Display. I can then double tap again to bring up the normal lock screen. So screen can be off as long as that box is checked.
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You're right, it's "double tap to check phone". Good call!
So far, for a person who like higher end phones, this one here (considered a budget) phone is the best IMOP. Sure it lacks a few things. One it only has a screen resolution of 1080, as compare to other phones with higher resolutions.. But I asked my self, did I ever utilize those other screen resolutions? Answer No. So that is not a issue for me at all.. Next, Screen display this one has OLED compared to AMOLED, does it affect how I use the phone? Answer NO. This phone on Sprint, came with absolutely no bloat of any kind, which is a big plus for me. Every time I bought a phone, first thing I had to do was remove all that bloat, as I can't stand software on my phone, that I do not use but takes away to much resources.
The camera is excellent, picture are crisp and nice.. No lag in the shutter. When you hit that button, it takes the picture instantly like it should.. I also like the idea of have sound coming from the speaker that you have up against you head, during phone calls, and from the bottom speakers as well. This makes for very good sound.. My wife and daughter already complained it was waaaay to loud LOL. Yes it has less ram, and a slower cpu, but it is butter smooth and very responsive IMOP compared to the G7 ThinQ I still own, and it only cost less than $500.. This is what a phone should cost.
Now the G7 I believe was around $800 had it for about 6 months.. Sprint asked if I was going to trade it in. I asked how much? They said $68 dollars, are you freaking kidding me.. Heck I will get much, much more when I sell it on line and this phone is in mind condition... This is why it is a scam to sell these phone for such high margins, and yet in the end they depreciate I thing worse than a dam computer does..
To each their own - I got the 3a XL to hold me over and start my Verizon account before ordering the OP7 Pro...I'm having pretty long load times, and some apps themselves are just lagging quite a bit. Maybe I got a bad one, but performance wise, I haven't been impressed so far. UI wise, I love the Pixel stuff...though I wish their launcher had a damn import option. Either way, I'll probably keep it as a holdover/backup phone, but I can't wait until the OP gets here on Tuesday. That being said, for $379 I can't complain that much (I do think that's where these devices should sit price wise though). They should make them 299-379 permanently and they would sell insanely well. Still, the camera is amazing as always. Wonder what the Pixel 4 will bring to the table?
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On a different note, Google should add a way of turning off AOD at night, like most other manufactures do, I put a piece of paper on top of the proximity sensor to turn off AOD at night to achieve this xD
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I just put my phone down with the screen side down. Of course I am using a glass protector and a case that has a small lip, so the actual screen doesn't contact my table.
I gave my op6 to my wife and got this pixel 3a xl . I've been using it for 3 months now and I'm big time ready to get back to OnePlus. Great camera on the pixel but thats about it. Under powered , not enough ram , and now with the update 10 4g problem I'm over this pixel.
I own both phones..it's really hard to compare these 2 phone models as there so much different. Pixel- I have owned both 1st and 2nd generation pixels prior to my 3a xl. I love the fast software updates and smooth ui even with only 4 gbs of RAM. My OnePlus 7 pro is fast.... really fast and that 90hz screen refresh rate is amazing. I Still really miss my Razer 2 with 120 hz refresh rate minus how boxy it was but all and all this thing is crazy fast. Last thing I might mention is it's heavy and kind of akward to hold not to mention the headache of trying to protect that curved screen though it does look beautiful.
Honestly I'm waiting until wireless charging and 5g are standard before I upgrade my phones again and with the Google updates every month for the next 2 years I think I'll keep my pixel XL 3a as a backup phone with an amazing camera, heck I got it for $350 so why not. My OnePlus 7 pro cost $650 just to compare prices. Hope this helps some people out. Don't hesitate to ask me anything since I own both currently.
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I own both phones..it's really hard to compare these 2 phone models as there so much different. Pixel- I have owned both 1st and 2nd generation pixels prior to my 3a xl. I love the fast software updates and smooth ui even with only 4 gbs of RAM. My OnePlus 7 pro is fast.... really fast and that 90hz screen refresh rate is amazing. I Still really miss my Razer 2 with 120 hz refresh rate minus how boxy it was but all and all this thing is crazy fast. Last thing I might mention is it's heavy and kind of akward to hold not to mention the headache of trying to protect that curved screen though it does look beautiful.
Honestly I'm waiting until wireless charging and 5g are standard before I upgrade my phones again and with the Google updates every month for the next 2 years I think I'll keep my pixel XL 3a as a backup phone with an amazing camera, heck I got it for $350 so why not. My OnePlus 7 pro cost $650 just to compare prices. Hope this helps some people out. Don't hesitate to ask me anything since I own both currently.
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I'm running with the same two phones, my OnePlus being my main personal device and my pixel being my business device. Both are great, and occasionally, I switch my sim cards back and forth. But for my apps and games, the OnePlus is, undoubtedly, the superior when it comes to performance. But man, those photos from the Pixel and screen calling are two things I just can't give up! In all honesty, both phones are fantastic and I think anyone who opts in for a Samsung or iPhone are missing out!
We all know nothing is perfect. So please besides camera issues and ghost touches can we please list and talk about the things we do find negative about this phone. No bashing just true input. My phones on It's way and I don't have it til June 10th but want to know what to expect or look into
Curved display glare
Chinese users reporting issues with pop up camera not working
Dust inside pop up Camera housing
Phone too heavy
Too big
Uneven weight distribution
Piss poor adaptive brightness
Piss poor quality, my device already has abrasions from regular use in a case and gentle use.
The slider for ring, vibrate and silence is easy to move when putting in pocket, the one one the 6t was lot more firm didn't have that issue.
Bluetooth audio crackles (might just be my device)
It is a beast, in isolation not so bad but pick up an S10+ and the Samsung looks and feels small in comparison. Also agree re the distribution
No always on display
No wireless charging
Camera is just ok
No face unlock. Yes I know it does actually have it but IMO popping the camera every time you want to unlock is enough of a hassle for me to not bother
FPS is 2D and not secure (it is though super quick and accurate)
Tap to wake and raise to wake do not always work
I love it though!
Good:
Love the display and curved edge
finger print sensor is fast
haptic vibration is amazing
speakers sound great
Oxygen OS is great
unlocking the bootloader/rooting/MSM download tool lets me customise this device without worry
bad:
I think it's too big for my hands
camera quality is just okay (I think it's the same quality as my OnePlus 6)
If I'm honest, using things like Snapchat and messenger, the photos are amazing. It just using the camera app it's ****house.
Size is good, vibration motor is good. Sound is good. Screen is amazing. Seems any issue I have is really a software update away from a fix...
Screen glare.
Phone tooooo heavy.
Battery is not better than the 6T
The curved screen isn't horrible. Didn't think I'd ever get a phone with a curved screen, but, the curve is to much that it curves in the normal screen area. Needs to be a more subtle curve.
Adaptive brightness isn't as bad as some people say on my phone but it certainly can be improved.
Battery is amazing. I'm getting at least 20% increased sot then my OnePlus 6. This is with auto res, 90hz and screen on auto brightness.
Too big, too heavy not for me.
The pop up camera I do not see as problem, rarely use it.
The curved display is annoying more than once screen elements I need to interact with were on the edge. "annoying not a deal breaker"
Same thing about Qi charging not having it is "annoying but not a deal breaker"
My biggest problem is not the size of the phone but the thickness.
If it was the same thickness as my S10+ and maybe a tad lighter it would feel so much better in the hand.
Don't get complaints about it being too big. It's a big phone and bigger than the 6t, pixel etc. You would have known that before purchasing. Like me buying a pixel 3a and complaining it's too small ...
But I wouldn't buy it because I know it's a small phone ?
Pros
Screen is AMAZING!
Battery Life is awesome!
90hz!
Better additions to stock Android!
Multiple options for gestures!
Drawing gestures are 100%!
Cons
Updates are very slow to roll out and we are always the last to receive them. (T-Mobile variant)
Rare accidental touches on the edge.
Camera resolution is overall OK. (Coming from my Pixel 3 XL, this really isn't a fair comparison)
Dialer app is not as good as the Pixel 3.
Dual stereo speakers could be a better.
Accessories are very expensive.
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Don't get complaints about it being too big. It's a big phone and bigger than the 6t, pixel etc. You would have known that before purchasing. Like me buying a pixel 3a and complaining it's too small ...
But I wouldn't buy it because I know it's a small phone ?
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Agreed.
Complaining about size and weight is useless. These were known. Curved screen yep. Don't complain.
The glare from the curved edge is an issue in some cases.
I don't have any real complaints.
I'm a realist and nothing is perfect, definitely not tech related products.
Loving all the input but for those who day heavy what phones are you coming from? I have a LG g6 ATM and with the case I use more often than any other case it weighs in at 226g so ok think that the OP7 pro wouldn't be that much heavier with a decent case on it. I'm mostly upgrading cause ALWAYS wanted a OP device on Verizon but the 6T just didn't sit with me well. Also I was going to buy a $300+ tablet for my photo editing but I figured the OP7 pro is large enough and better use of funds.
This phones adaptive brightness is meh.
When it hits ultra high brightness it can appear washed out.
The haptic motor is still meh.
Otherwise a great phone.
sad adaptive brightness (should be fixed with software)
screen could be a bit brighter when outside.
stereo speakers sound better than my pixel 2 xl
camera is good but not as good as my pixel 2 xl
small things, nothing serious. I love this phone and its the best phone overall that ive ever owned. To each their own though right? Something could be blatantly wrong with it or (what a lot of us do) if look for things to be wrong with the phone. No phone is perfect. There never will be, otherwise companies would go out of business.
I still rock the 6t, but have you guys noticed any difference in the camera after the software update "camera fix" on the 7plus?. In quotes because we all know OP has awful "fixes"
I like that it's big phone.
I don't have ladyboi hands so the phone is perfect for me. In fact I even have a bulky case on it which makes it even better.
As far as the camera goes... I have a Sony a7r iii for pictures. I will probably never even use the camera on the phone.
People that buy a "phone" and piss about not being able to take glamor shots with it are annoying.
I do play games though and I can definitely tell the difference between this device and my 6T. The 7Pro plays all my games amazingly.
I run 2 businesses with this device and have zero hiccups.
I don't have ghost touches.
I don't have a problem with curved screens.
Is it perfect?
Good enough for me.
Maybe not for you.
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My biggest problem is not the size of the phone but the thickness.
If it was the same thickness as my S10+ and maybe a tad lighter it would feel so much better in the hand.
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This is Rich as over the last couple years people have been screaming to make the phone a bit thicker to accommodate a larger battery as they'd rather have more battery life. Now people are b!tching about A SLIGHTLY thicker phone with a larger battery and it's only thicker by roughly 1mm!?!?
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This is Rich as over the last couple years people have been screaming to make the phone a bit thicker to accommodate a larger battery as they'd rather have more battery life. Now people are b!tching about A SLIGHTLY thicker phone with a larger battery and it's only thicker by roughly 1mm!?!?
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And yet the S10+ has a bigger battery.
Wanted to post my feedback about the Pixel 5. I have read plenty of reviews, but wanted to give my opinion as a regular customer. I have owned every Pixel device since the OG. I currently have the 5 and the 4XL and wanted to give my opinion about the two.
Size- Coming from the 4XL the 5 feels like a toy. Its much lighter weight and smaller physically. I will have to get used to it and I think it will be a positive thing. The body/screen ratio is much better than the 4XL. Yes the 5 is smaller but the actual screen isn't too much smaller. The 4XL is much heavier in the hand, I forgot my Pixel 5 was in my pocket a few times because its lighter weight.
Built materials- I love the Pixel 5 for what they did with the recycled aluminum. My 4XL was very slippery and a fingerprint magnet by comparison. The 5 is all around superior in my opinion.
Fingerprint sensor- I am honestly extremely excited that Google brought this back. They never should have removed it for Face unlock. Face unlock didnt work vey well and with a lot of people wearing face masks its a pain. The fingerprint sensor feels like my Pixel 2XL did. Extremely fast and accurate and I love that I can use it to access the pull down menu. One of the primary reasons I got this phone.
Screen- The 5 has a brighter(nits) screen over the 4XL. This can be a good thing in sunlight outdoors. At 50% or above, I feel that the colors are more washed out on the 5 compared to my 4XL however. I have both set in Adaptive. I don't mind the hole punch.
5G/Signal- I don't have it in my area. I didn't yet get a "new" SIM card to see if it makes a difference. I have the same signal strength as my 4XL.
Camera- I think we can assume its the same as the Pixel 4. I don't really care for the wide angle and prefer the 2x optical zoom, but this is just a personal thing with I take photos of the kids.
Performance- I use this phone for work(call and emails) and a lot of photos. I do not game on a phone. To me I can tell slightly on start up that its slower than my 4XL and that the photos seem to take slightly longer to process. I don't think its an issue at all though. The phone is very fluid and fast still.
Battery- For once I think Google figured it out. Between the processor and the large battery, I can tell this phone will be significantly better than my 4XL that suffered drain issues like many.
Speaker quality- This is my largest gripe by far. Relative to my 4XL the speakers in the 5 are terrible, I don't care how anyone tried to spin it. I adjusted the earpiece to be louder in Accessibility to help balance them out, which did help for balance. Side by side there is a huge difference in mid range and bass compared to the 4XL. The 5 sounds hollow and tinny especially at higher volumes.
Earpiece calls- Similar to above this is a really big miss having the speaker under the screen. It makes people sound like they are talking in a can. At high call volumes the earpiece quality sounds terrible. I usually have to adjust the volume down at least 2 clicks from max volume just so I don't get frustrated with the phone.
Squeeze for Assistant- Just noticed that the Pixel 5 does not have the squeeze for Google assistant. Not a big deal to me, but was used to it on the 4XL.
Overall I would say that the Pixel 5 is a side-grade instead of an upgrade of my 4XL. There are a lot of concessions Google took with this phone, which helps the cost. I can live with all of them, but the speaker and earpiece is a big miss for me. I am going to use the phone for a few days to determine if I am going to keep it. I am leaning toward yes, but the earpiece quality alone is a big deal to me since I use it for work. Typically 5+ hours on the phone daily and the quality drives me nuts.
If there is anything specific you want to know just ask and I can comment or test.
What color do you have?
Is there a gap btwn screen and body by the FFC?
Are you having any charging issues? (Battery displays wrong %)
What is your SOT after first cycle?
What camera mode has the most delay in processing? What resolution?
Do you notice any dust or stuff gathering on body of device where it meets screen?
What country are you in?
Is this enough questions? Lol
TokedUp said:
What color do you have?
Is there a gap btwn screen and body by the FFC?
Are you having any charging issues? (Battery displays wrong %)
What is your SOT after first cycle?
What camera mode has the most delay in processing? What resolution?
Do you notice any dust or stuff gathering on body of device where it meets screen?
What country are you in?
Is this enough questions? Lol
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There is a slight variation is screen gap, but not nearly as pronounced as other photos I have seen. I am not scared or turned off by what I received.
I am not having any charging issues
Today will be the first full day after fully charging the phone. I will screenshot SOT and battery stats later tonight and upload
All camera modes are very slightly delayed. My 4XL did this too while it processed, but the 5 seems just a tad slower
I am sure some dust will accumulate in the voids over time, but my 4XL did the same thing so this is not an issue to me. I dont notice any immediate dust gathering from just taking it in and out of my pockets.
I am in the USA and purchased an unlocked direct from Google.
Oh wow I thought you had phone longer. Might wanna wait for few days before a review next time.
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Oh wow I thought you had phone longer. Might wanna wait for few days before a review next time.
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Why, it's his initial impressions of the phone and some may find it helpful..... I do.
His title is Real World Review. But he doesn't have real world results yet. This is a first impression thread. Dont take it so personal.
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His title is Real World Review. But he doesn't have real world results yet. This is a first impression thread. Dont take it so personal.
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I love it when people get all offended and try to throw it back on someone else. I'm not taking it personal, but then I'm an adult. Why don't YOU not take it so personal.
It's really just the title of the thread that is a little misleading. No big deal really take it for what it's worth. But let's keep this thread going it can be of help moving forward. I'd like to see also some the the new features and hidden gems we find.
I changed the title to make everyone happy on a Friday.
I created this so that people who have phones in route or on the fence could compare against Googles previous model. The only thing that will or would change is battery life. After a few days and power cycles I am sure it will only get better, but my opinions relative to the 4XL will remain the same day 1 or 30 days later.
That being said, here were the screen shots from yesterday. I had a light day for work. I ended up with 50% battery at 1am. The battery is much better than my 4XL already.
When websites get the phone they do an initial impression then after few days they do a review. Its like reviewing a video game after playing the demo.
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I changed the title to make everyone happy on a Friday.
I created this so that people who have phones in route or on the fence could compare against Googles previous model. The only thing that will or would change is battery life. After a few days and power cycles I am sure it will only get better, but my opinions relative to the 4XL will remain the same day 1 or 30 days later.
That being said, here were the screen shots from yesterday. I had a light day for work. I ended up with 50% battery at 1am. The battery is much better than my 4XL already.
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Read an article last night guy was getting 9hrs screen time! Pretty damn good
Day 2 battery results.