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https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
While I would like to assume that the Moto x pure edition will get it, this article seems to be an opinion piece with little or no supporting info other than his ramblings and definitely nothing from Lenovo/Moto.
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Nice. Another garbage site with no credible info. I love how in their comments this "Motorola" author is answering questions on wether or not so and so device will get Nougat, like they're 100% sure.
Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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The g4s are garbage and I spoke to a rep today and he told me to stay away from them haha a Lenovo rep said this! Bought one yesterday and the screen was all glitchy took it back today traded it out and paid the difference for the plus and same thing before even leaving the parking lot. Finally got pissed and said screw it and got a moto x pure style again. Loved this phone the first time I had it and love it now! Guernetee it gets nuoget and if it dosent.. well.. there will ALWAYS be Roms haha lol. But what I was trying to get at with the g4 phones is that's more than likely the reason they "might" get it.. I'd doubt it though honestly. Lenovo ruined the Motorola line. Ya the z is bad ass but come on man. The pure style was the best phone they had made in YEARS! Besides the Nexus 6. I'm super disappointed in the joke Lenovo has made!
Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Oh well, i think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that the Z will be upgraded after MXPE. I actually think once the Z will be available worldwide it will get the N update to boost sales. I'm only saying that it would be difficult to convince people to buy an expensive phone unless they have a guarantee it will be a long investment. Updating quickly the XPE should give that guarantee that even Z will be maintained after its one year anniversary.
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https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
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That motog3 site is just an pile of advertisements and SEO bait. It's not legit.
After dealing with Moto/Lenovo support a few times, my impression is that Lenovo is struggling to appear like they know what they're doing. Their repair program is musical chairs, tech support doesn't know what's going on, and they haven't been able to maintain the software. Even if they've outsourced Nougat, I doubt they've purchased any followup bug fixes.
I just saw that CM14 7.0 dropped for the Android One, Oneplus 3 and a few others today. That should help things along a bit. Once it exists, as it now does, it usually makes it's way to other devices pretty quickly. :fingers-crossed:
i want ask ... i don't know if my question is stupid or not LooL
if lenovo dont include our MOTO X phone to update list
can the Rom developer here make custom ROM with N Update? or they need something from lenovo (like permission or code) ?
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I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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But you should believe @Zekial When Moto, was a Google Company, and not official bought by lenovo, they update their smartphones very fast, Nexus 5 receive Lollipop after Moto X . Now Moto sucks, only this week in germany they update their phones to 6.0.1 (security update from may ).
Pure will be updated for N, when is the problem, could be this year or in the next.
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
dammit, and i just rooted my phone finally today.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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I don't think that article tells us anything we don't already know. I read it yesterday and it just says "should" and "probably" with no sources.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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Just another fluff article... zero information, just speculation and opinion.
The "news" now on neurigedget... Hmm
not officially confirmed
http://neurogadget.net/2016/09/24/m...tedly-get-android-nougat-update-october/40315
Meanwhile, the Moto X Play, Moto X Style, and Moto X Force, will receive the update on November.
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Moto x4 which is also an Android one device started to get Oreo updates. I guess we will get it soon too considering ours is also an Android one device. What do you guys think?
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Moto x4 which is also an Android one device started to get Oreo updates. I guess we will get it soon too considering ours is also an Android one device. What do you guys think?
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Predicting the obvious?
Their beta is still ongoing I don't think we'll get it on the remaining days of 2017 nor even on January 2018.
Technically they can say- " well we did...there is beta Oreo released before 2018." which is lame.
Similar situations I had on Meizu with their flyme and huawei back when I had 6p...they said "well, there's an update, beta is out"
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So someone asked on Twitter about Oreo update and Xiaomi says "Its coming really soon!"
Source: https://twitter.com/xiaomi/status/944922239643684864
I never forget when Motorola left the Moto G 2015 without Nougat (even that it is capable of running it), also they said in their blog
It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device
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Source
Stay away from Lenovorola.
SOON.. in time :angel:
now, that's the answer
I know it might be a little to early to talk about Android Pie on V20 when some devices are not yet receive Android Oreo update. However, I still have some hope on V20 receiving official Android Pie update some day.
Does anyone think that your device will eventually get Pie or stuck at Oreo?
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I know it might be a little to early to talk about Android Pie on V20 when some devices are not yet receive Android Oreo update. However, I still have some hope on V20 receiving official Android Pie update some day.
Does anyone think that your device will eventually get Pie or stuck at Oreo?
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With LG's track record come back in two years
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v20 qualifies for Pie update on paper, Pie was released within the 2 year update window and almost all flagships receives 2 major updates, whereas v20 only received 1, at some lucky regions that is.
However LG really abandoned its mobile devices; shuts down services, releases devices partly (not worldwide) and very late.
Not releasing Oreo for US996? Come on, they used to blame carriers for everything, but not releasing update for your unlocked variant even months after carrier devices are updated? They haven't pushed even security update for months. I think they dropped the ball real bad and totally deserve to go out of business, sorry.
I am a time traveller, I went 1 year into the future. There are no signs of PIE for V20 yet
On a serious note,
LG's preference will be
LGV40
G7
V35
V30s
V30
G6
V20
So even if V20 gets pie(it probably won't), it wil be at least 1 year before we see any variant of v20 gets it
Pie also requires eligibility for Treble support, allowing Google to update devices with this themselves, and requiring OEM's to only maintain a partition with what they want pre-loaded onto the device.
This would expand the lifespan of the V20 indefinitely, we'd be able to get updates at a similar speed to say a Pixel or Nexus (the latter being like the V20, an older class of flagship).
But I wouldn't hold my breath for LG putting the hours into a device that's now so low on their hierarchy.
One LineageOS 16.0 gets stable, that's about the only hope we have.
Few days ago i received the Android Oreo update on my V20 so i don't think LG will upgrade to Android Pie any soon .. but i can hope!
LG almost never go further than 1 major update.
I've owned 5 LG phone, they never receive version V3x.
So I say there is no chance LG V20 will have another major upgrade....especially it's one of the first LG phone start with Nougat.
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I am a time traveller, I went 1 year into the future. There are no signs of PIE for V20 yet
On a serious note,
LG's preference will be
LGV40
G7
V35
V30s
V30
G6
V20
So even if V20 gets pie(it probably won't), it wil be at least 1 year before we see any variant of v20 gets it
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well the g7 got it in korea..
LG actually confirmed awhile ago that v20 will get pie, apparently LG is trying to fix their image. Most likely we will get the update by the end of this year.
What about security updates, we had 2 on nougat for the TWN version.
On Oreo no updates since october/oreo hit, i would much rather get a few more of them until pie.
Security updates is abysmal from LG.
My stock import V20 still has 8.0.0 with 1st september patch .. i am not holding out any hope of getting any updates at all ..
Sadly LG has removed all support for the v20.......
According to this, we'll get it 3rd quarter.
https://www.androidauthority.com/android-9-0-update-880718/
Don't put your hope too much on this, LG might release Pie but it might be for korea only.. just like how they did for LG G4 by releasing Nougat for korea only..
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someone on telegram showed me a email that lg replied to. They are saying no pie for the v20. Don't think any updates are gonna happen
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If it does happen, we hope you get the time to continue the Awesome Alpha Rom into Pie (again, if you have time, since I know it's alot of hard work).
If not, we'll continue to use your AWESOME Alpha Rom on Oreo! Again, thanks for all your hard work on it.
As an aside, if LOS 16.0 (Pie) is perfected on the V20, we might test it out.
baldybill said:
If it does happen, we hope you get the time to continue the Awesome Alpha Rom into Pie (again, if you have time, since I know it's alot of hard work).
If not, we'll continue to use your AWESOME Alpha Rom on Oreo! Again, thanks for all your hard work on it.
As an aside, if LOS 16.0 (Pie) is perfected on the V20, we might test it out.
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im already tested that LOS pie. its working great, and even our 2nd screen is working just like additional screen, so we got a bigger screen after all..
but the cons is,
the camera result is not good as in stock based rom and the built in DAC is not working.. for me, that 2 point (camera and DAC) is the bigest reason why im still using v20 in 2019..
for now on im just hoping in future, the stock camera and built in DAC can be ported into LOS pie sonwe got running pie also with perfect camera and V20's DAC..
When will we get Android Pie ROM for LG V20?
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When will we get Android Pie ROM for LG V20?
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Stock?
No-one knows.
Custom? LineageOS 16.0 has betas of Pie in its thread.
Redline said:
Stock?
No-one knows.
Custom? LineageOS 16.0 has betas of Pie in its thread.
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But without original camera apps
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But without original camera apps
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Correct. You can't use the original camera apps on AOSP because they have proprietary dependencies.
Thank LG. GCam is the closest you will get, and that now has functioning Night Sight.
Android P has been released in south korea and they haven't started even global beta for android P. I am more concerned about LG G7thinq update to android P in India. Guys do you have any news ? Or predictions
Sometimes mid or end of March if we are lucky. It might even be rolled out in April judging by how they rolled updates earlier.
It took them more then 3 months to roll out 4k 60 fps support for Indian model.
I wonder how companies like OnePlus can deliver updates quickly.
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Sometimes mid or end of March if we are lucky. It might even be rolled out in April judging by how they rolled updates earlier.
It took them more then 3 months to roll out 4k 60 fps support for Indian model.
I wonder how companies like OnePlus can deliver updates quickly.
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because they have less in quantity but more motivated stuff of developers, less corruption and bureaucracy than large giants like lg mobile. and yet 1+ has just 2 models, in fact one model per year cycle. it's far easier to update 1 model due to 1 SoC support instead of 4-5 Soc as have LG
I think CEO of LG Mobile still lives in XX century and thinks of smartphones as of like TV sets, which don't need monthly security patches.
OnePlus releases 2 phones a year similar to LG. LG also releases 2 flagship phones a year(not counting entry and budget) with same SOCs. Meanwhile LG didn't even update 1 phone, OnePlus successfully pushed updates to even last year's models. Even Samsung pushed Android pie to flagship's.
I love my G7 but I might buy a pixel 2 as a second phone just to stay in the Android update circle.
Even Samsung has update the s9 and Note 9. The s8 beta is live. There is no excuse for bull**** like that.
And after research I found out that it's the same with their old smartphone.
They have no place selling "flagships" if they are not supported.
Yesterday I saw an update coming I thought it was Pie sadly it was the December security patch. This is unnaceptable.
The bigest problem with LG is that they have so many diffrent firmwares for diffrent regions of the world. Why? Just an international model will be ok. Why so many versions of G7 for example? This fragmentation is the key for Bankruptcy!
Inerent said:
The bigest problem with LG is that they have so many diffrent firmwares for diffrent regions of the world. Why? Just an international model will be ok. Why so many versions of G7 for example? This fragmentation is the key for Bankruptcy!
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Yes correct. Lg chose hardestway to implement software upgrade to smartphone.They don't have community where we can discuss bugs and update related query.
I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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Ok, you convinced me, it's the last time i take an lg phone, they are stupid.... My first phone with them and my last, it's sad cause the phone is great :/
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Ok, you convinced me, it's the last time i take an lg phone, they are stupid.... My first phone with them and my last, it's sad cause the phone is great :/
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Even this is my first and last LG phone until LG fixes update issues.
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Even this is my first and last LG phone until LG fixes update issues.
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:good: I've got more more issues with this phone... I had xiaomi from almost 8 years and I never had problems.
techhahn said:
I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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LG v40 had been released in India..so for what they are waiting.Surely LG don't want to be big player in Indian market .This will be my first and last LG phone
techhahn said:
I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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I don't think the guy you talked to was in any situation to answer this as I'm sure you can already buy V40 on Amazon.
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Even this is my first and last LG phone until LG fixes update issues.
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I'm starting to feel the same. It was this or the p20 pro and the Huawei was sold out for two weeks until the end of the sale. I could of gotten a pixel or whatever but I had some bad luck with my last Google phone so yeah.... Idk the phone is good, but like seriously, BTS??? Why sell this in Canada? That "smart"world store is sad. Some of the fonts and stuff are ok, but like, if they put so much effort into regionlocking these phones, they could at least region lock the content in the lg store. Glad that "benefit" is over.
Definitely this is my first and last LG device, I had two options while buying this phone(G7 or op6).Since I was using one plus device for last 4 years I decided to go with LG and the phone is good but they screw us in updates. What makes them slow?. Are they not interested in Indian market.Lets trend this update issue by using #lgg7update #myfirstandlastlgphone.
My two cents is that the next version to get pie will be the EM and I'm highly doubtful it will happen before march/april
I agree that I have a Nexus hangover for quick updates but this doesn't mean that it takes a company more then 6 months to roll updates. It is totally not acceptable for a flagship phone.
I got convinced to buy this phone after watching pocket now review. Guess they get paid by LG for praising the phone.
Sure this phone have a good hardware but software updates are also necessary. Google re engineered Android with People Treble for faster updates, but it's is of no use for LG. Kudos to OnePlus, essential to release updates quickly. Even for Samsung who completely reimagined UI released update before LG.
People who feel the same please tell your friends and family to not to but LG.
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I agree that I have a Nexus hangover for quick updates but this doesn't mean that it takes a company more then 6 months to roll updates. It is totally not acceptable for a flagship phone.
I got convinced to buy this phone after watching pocket now review. Guess they get paid by LG for praising the phone.
Sure this phone have a good hardware but software updates are also necessary. Google re engineered Android with People Treble for faster updates, but it's is of no use for LG. Kudos to OnePlus, essential to release updates quickly. Even for Samsung who completely reimagined UI released update before LG.
People who feel the same please tell your friends and family to not to but LG.
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You can always buy Apple :laugh:
This is a great phone for the price. The best audio ever.
So chill, you will have pie. Or you can flash the pie kdz. Or you can root and flash AOSP pie .
You have so many choices and you just wait and blame LG.
:laugh:
XDA is for people who want to tinker with their phones .
doiutzu said:
You can always buy Apple :laugh:
This is a great phone for the price. The best audio ever.
So chill, you will have pie. Or you can flash the pie kdz. Or you can root and flash AOSP pie .
You have so many choices and you just wait and blame LG.
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XDA is for people who want to tinker with their phones .
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You should have been on the stage where LG CEO announced the update center to deliver software updates to tell potential customers like me and others to buy Apple. I spent my money and it's my right to curse LG if they are not delivering.
This post is under Guides, News, and Discussions and it seems like we are not breaking any rules. Also, LG is pretty bad with open source community, so there is nothing to tinker around LG phones and thus we discuss.
You can contribute to the community ...
We have unlocked bootloader, treble, kernel sources.
You can do it yourself if you really want :silly:
Hey everyone
I just want to check if the May Security Update is the latest update everyone has on their P11 Plus? So far I've not had a single software update and tbh I'm getting pretty damn worried.
Lenovo support is some real awful **** so they were of no help whatsoever.
I've just had another system update. Kernel is dated 10 Sep 2021. Software version TB-J706F_RF01_210910
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I've just had another system update. Kernel is dated 10 Sep 2021. Software version TB-J706F_RF01_210910
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That's for the pro though I've the p11 plus :O
So I contacted Lenovo and they're saying Google send the updates out which is obviously not true... ridiculous.
Don't suppose there's any custom ROMs for this tab? May security update annoys me to no end.
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So I contacted Lenovo and they're saying Google send the updates out which is obviously not true... ridiculous.
Don't suppose there's any custom ROMs for this tab? May security update annoys me to no end.
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Bump on roms for this one, I'm hating on the apps that I can't remove from google and lenovo.
Last lenovo I buy their software and support is junk. The hardware is nice but that's about it.