Android P has been released in south korea and they haven't started even global beta for android P. I am more concerned about LG G7thinq update to android P in India. Guys do you have any news ? Or predictions
Sometimes mid or end of March if we are lucky. It might even be rolled out in April judging by how they rolled updates earlier.
It took them more then 3 months to roll out 4k 60 fps support for Indian model.
I wonder how companies like OnePlus can deliver updates quickly.
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Sometimes mid or end of March if we are lucky. It might even be rolled out in April judging by how they rolled updates earlier.
It took them more then 3 months to roll out 4k 60 fps support for Indian model.
I wonder how companies like OnePlus can deliver updates quickly.
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because they have less in quantity but more motivated stuff of developers, less corruption and bureaucracy than large giants like lg mobile. and yet 1+ has just 2 models, in fact one model per year cycle. it's far easier to update 1 model due to 1 SoC support instead of 4-5 Soc as have LG
I think CEO of LG Mobile still lives in XX century and thinks of smartphones as of like TV sets, which don't need monthly security patches.
OnePlus releases 2 phones a year similar to LG. LG also releases 2 flagship phones a year(not counting entry and budget) with same SOCs. Meanwhile LG didn't even update 1 phone, OnePlus successfully pushed updates to even last year's models. Even Samsung pushed Android pie to flagship's.
I love my G7 but I might buy a pixel 2 as a second phone just to stay in the Android update circle.
Even Samsung has update the s9 and Note 9. The s8 beta is live. There is no excuse for bull**** like that.
And after research I found out that it's the same with their old smartphone.
They have no place selling "flagships" if they are not supported.
Yesterday I saw an update coming I thought it was Pie sadly it was the December security patch. This is unnaceptable.
The bigest problem with LG is that they have so many diffrent firmwares for diffrent regions of the world. Why? Just an international model will be ok. Why so many versions of G7 for example? This fragmentation is the key for Bankruptcy!
Inerent said:
The bigest problem with LG is that they have so many diffrent firmwares for diffrent regions of the world. Why? Just an international model will be ok. Why so many versions of G7 for example? This fragmentation is the key for Bankruptcy!
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Yes correct. Lg chose hardestway to implement software upgrade to smartphone.They don't have community where we can discuss bugs and update related query.
I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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Ok, you convinced me, it's the last time i take an lg phone, they are stupid.... My first phone with them and my last, it's sad cause the phone is great :/
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Ok, you convinced me, it's the last time i take an lg phone, they are stupid.... My first phone with them and my last, it's sad cause the phone is great :/
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Even this is my first and last LG phone until LG fixes update issues.
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Even this is my first and last LG phone until LG fixes update issues.
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:good: I've got more more issues with this phone... I had xiaomi from almost 8 years and I never had problems.
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I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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LG v40 had been released in India..so for what they are waiting.Surely LG don't want to be big player in Indian market .This will be my first and last LG phone
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I contacted LG service center India and asked about pie update. They said it will be rolled out after v40 is launched in India. Estimate they gave was March or April.
This is unbelievable, they have update ready and just that they don't want to roll it off before their next phones release. This is straight a rip-off of consumers. LG should stop their carelessness attitude.
Incase if anyone wants to get in touch with LG (1800 315 9999 or 1800 180 9999)
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I don't think the guy you talked to was in any situation to answer this as I'm sure you can already buy V40 on Amazon.
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Even this is my first and last LG phone until LG fixes update issues.
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I'm starting to feel the same. It was this or the p20 pro and the Huawei was sold out for two weeks until the end of the sale. I could of gotten a pixel or whatever but I had some bad luck with my last Google phone so yeah.... Idk the phone is good, but like seriously, BTS??? Why sell this in Canada? That "smart"world store is sad. Some of the fonts and stuff are ok, but like, if they put so much effort into regionlocking these phones, they could at least region lock the content in the lg store. Glad that "benefit" is over.
Definitely this is my first and last LG device, I had two options while buying this phone(G7 or op6).Since I was using one plus device for last 4 years I decided to go with LG and the phone is good but they screw us in updates. What makes them slow?. Are they not interested in Indian market.Lets trend this update issue by using #lgg7update #myfirstandlastlgphone.
My two cents is that the next version to get pie will be the EM and I'm highly doubtful it will happen before march/april
I agree that I have a Nexus hangover for quick updates but this doesn't mean that it takes a company more then 6 months to roll updates. It is totally not acceptable for a flagship phone.
I got convinced to buy this phone after watching pocket now review. Guess they get paid by LG for praising the phone.
Sure this phone have a good hardware but software updates are also necessary. Google re engineered Android with People Treble for faster updates, but it's is of no use for LG. Kudos to OnePlus, essential to release updates quickly. Even for Samsung who completely reimagined UI released update before LG.
People who feel the same please tell your friends and family to not to but LG.
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I agree that I have a Nexus hangover for quick updates but this doesn't mean that it takes a company more then 6 months to roll updates. It is totally not acceptable for a flagship phone.
I got convinced to buy this phone after watching pocket now review. Guess they get paid by LG for praising the phone.
Sure this phone have a good hardware but software updates are also necessary. Google re engineered Android with People Treble for faster updates, but it's is of no use for LG. Kudos to OnePlus, essential to release updates quickly. Even for Samsung who completely reimagined UI released update before LG.
People who feel the same please tell your friends and family to not to but LG.
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You can always buy Apple :laugh:
This is a great phone for the price. The best audio ever.
So chill, you will have pie. Or you can flash the pie kdz. Or you can root and flash AOSP pie .
You have so many choices and you just wait and blame LG.
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XDA is for people who want to tinker with their phones .
doiutzu said:
You can always buy Apple :laugh:
This is a great phone for the price. The best audio ever.
So chill, you will have pie. Or you can flash the pie kdz. Or you can root and flash AOSP pie .
You have so many choices and you just wait and blame LG.
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XDA is for people who want to tinker with their phones .
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You should have been on the stage where LG CEO announced the update center to deliver software updates to tell potential customers like me and others to buy Apple. I spent my money and it's my right to curse LG if they are not delivering.
This post is under Guides, News, and Discussions and it seems like we are not breaking any rules. Also, LG is pretty bad with open source community, so there is nothing to tinker around LG phones and thus we discuss.
You can contribute to the community ...
We have unlocked bootloader, treble, kernel sources.
You can do it yourself if you really want :silly:
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So, I had idea, and I don't know if it's been done. I wondered if it would be useful to create a list of as many phones made by each manufacturer as possible, include the launch date, and determine the date of the last update provided. Based on this, we could take an average of how long each manufacturer provides updates for their devices before EOLing hardware (even though it's usually an artificial EOL since the devices are more than capable of running current releases). Would anyone be interested in this data, and would anyone like to assist me in this pursuit?
Interesting idea and it may take a lot of data analysis to figure that out.
Also something to consider is that does it differ by region? I spoke to one of my friends who works in Hong Kong Fortress (a big box store like Best Buy) and for HK, supposedly Sony and Samsung get the quickest updates. Him mentioning Sony definitely surprised me. After that it's HTC and then LG. except for the Nexus 4 of course.. I can attest to LG since my last phone Optimux 2X took forever to get updates available.
Also note that in HK, Motorola has pretty much given up on the market, so I don't think any of their phones get updates here anymore.
Your biggest issue will be that the OEMs dont control updates in alot of places. The carriers have most of the power when it comes to updates. The OEM may send them an update but the carrier can refuse to push the update to handsets.
of course,sony and samsung privde updates the fastest and newer versions of android(samsung updates its 2 year old dual cores to 4.2.2 adn some of them come from 2.3).Htc is also up with updates,but a bit slower.Well,lg is out of the list.They never update their phones.The promised a ics update for my e730 last summer and i still run on gb
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of course,sony and samsung privde updates the fastest and newer versions of android(samsung updates its 2 year old dual cores to 4.2.2 adn some of them come from 2.3).Htc is also up with updates,but a bit slower.Well,lg is out of the list.They never update their phones.The promised a ics update for my e730 last summer and i still run on gb
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This sounds about right. Those "Dual-core" phones were the Galaxy i9100 and the S2 Skyrocket variant for AT&T for 4.1.2. Instead of Sony: I would put ASUS next. Their TF300 got the 4.2 update back in March. In-fact: ASUS Support has no restrictions about recommending Custom ROMs and will even link you to a few.
Sony and LG are like....eh. I'd even add HTC to the list. They put out a list, but it's ages before we hear from them again.
I dream of a future when we have open platforms and we can update devices at our will...
the best is samsung and the worst is LG
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the best is samsung and the worst is LG
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Yes LG is indeed the worst. The official GINGERBREAD update came out for the Optimus 2X in December 2012... and it was extremely buggy, pretty much unusable. Needless to say I ditched the phone in March.
Contract is ending soon and I'm waffling between the LG G3 and the Galaxy Note 4. After checking out both their specs I decided a concern that none of the spread sheets cover is OTA updates. Yes I could just as easily root the phone and not have to worry about it but for the general consumer who isn't going to do that and instead depend on the good graces of the manufacturer and carrier to support their product can be an issue.
So, if both phone have specs that I think I would be happy with which one would be supported by the manufacturer with OTA updates the best?
go for nexus
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Contract is ending soon and I'm waffling between the LG G3 and the Galaxy Note 4. After checking out both their specs I decided a concern that none of the spread sheets cover is OTA updates. Yes I could just as easily root the phone and not have to worry about it but for the general consumer who isn't going to do that and instead depend on the good graces of the manufacturer and carrier to support their product can be an issue.
So, if both phone have specs that I think I would be happy with which one would be supported by the manufacturer with OTA updates the best?
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i don't know your country. but as per me if you go with unlocked/carrier free phone then go for nexus. it will get timely updates and will be best suited for performance.
Oppo is quite alright when you have their flagship model, but once they bring out a newer model, they'll pretty soon drop you like a brick. When they released the Find 5 it was every 2 weeks for beta builds, every 4 weeks for a stable release. Now you'd be happy to see a beta build appearing every few months for the Find 5. Find 7 and 7a (especially the 7a) are on a faster release shedule right now. But you can't get Oppo with a contract afaik.
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Contract is ending soon and I'm waffling between the LG G3 and the Galaxy Note 4. After checking out both their specs I decided a concern that none of the spread sheets cover is OTA updates. Yes I could just as easily root the phone and not have to worry about it but for the general consumer who isn't going to do that and instead depend on the good graces of the manufacturer and carrier to support their product can be an issue.
So, if both phone have specs that I think I would be happy with which one would be supported by the manufacturer with OTA updates the best?
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Well, you're with Verizon, which is notoriously slow with updates. I think you'll have more to worry about Verizon than the manufacturers. The Note 4 is a hell of a device, but if it's anything like the Note 3 is with Verizon, development will be poor. It took months for someone to figure how to root the thing (and it took legend/genius Geohot to do it). The LG will be far more development friendly.
Hi guys,
Any suggestion or leak news that this update will arrives officially on our wonderful device?
LG v10 came in October 2015, so if I'm right, 2 years of Android updates support and we will receive Android 7!
Post here any news spread in the web [emoji2]
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Hi guys,
Any suggestion or leak news that this update will arrives officially on our wonderful device?
LG v10 came in October 2015, so if I'm right, 2 years of Android updates support and we will receive Android 7!
Post here any news spread in the web [emoji2]
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from my experience with LG devices and updates, firt G5 will receive the 7.0 until ends of September/October and next V10 until ends of December or earlyer January! Dont bother too much, we will receive it anyway!
There is no root for Marshmellow so likely nougat will be more impenetrable. I'm sticking to Marshmellow and waiting for a root.
There is way, way too much crap-ware on verizon phones not to be rooted.
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There is no root for Marshmellow so likely nougat will be more impenetrable. I'm sticking to Marshmellow and waiting for a root.
There is way, way too much crap-ware on verizon phones not to be rooted.
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depends wich variant you have, in some variants the bootloader is unlockable and then have root like mine!
i am sure LG will make all variants unlockable-able bootloader so, you need to wait if you have a locked one!
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i am sure LG will make all variants unlockable-able bootloader so, you need to wait if you have a locked one!
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Not sure why you think that.
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depends wich variant you have, in some variants the bootloader is unlockable and then have root like mine!
i am sure LG will make all variants unlockable-able bootloader so, you need to wait if you have a locked one!
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Verizon (or any other cell company) has no vested interested in giving root access to it's customers. The phones are loaded with crap ware to data mine what you are doing. That is valuable data to Verizon and they are not about to lose that income stream if they can help it.
I've had previous Verizon phones with the same "locked down" problems. Even though the phone would play MP3, etc; that made it so you HAD to buy any music you wanted to play through their Verizon store. Outrageous when I have 250GB of music archive I want to choose from.
I held my nose and went back to Verizon because we are planning to move to a rural area and Verizon was the only company that had any coverage. Stuck again in locked down hell.
Someone PLEASE find a way to root these phones!
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Verizon (or any other cell company) has no vested interested in giving root access to it's customers. The phones are loaded with crap ware to data mine what you are doing. That is valuable data to Verizon and they are not about to lose that income stream if they can help it.
I've had previous Verizon phones with the same "locked down" problems. Even though the phone would play MP3, etc; that made it so you HAD to buy any music you wanted to play through their Verizon store. Outrageous when I have 250GB of music archive I want to choose from.
I held my nose and went back to Verizon because we are planning to move to a rural area and Verizon was the only company that had any coverage. Stuck again in locked down hell.
Someone PLEASE find a way to root these phones!
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Root the V10 with bootloader locked and Android 6.0 Marshmallow is impossible...
The only method to root V10 with bootloader locked is on 5.1.1 Android Lollipop with some kind of dump, i know its possible because when i have my G Flex 2 i have bootloader locked and i root it in 5.1.1, but when update to 6.0 Marshmallow i cant root so, if you want root for now you need to be in 5.1.1.
We will get android 7 for sure but i also do not expect it before the end of the year. They will first focus on G5 which most probably will get it around september/october and after that will work on V10 and G4. Android 7 have some good new features like the multitasking and advanced doze mode but frankly my V10 is working perfectly even now with marshmallow so i am in no rush to get the update as soon as possible. Lets hope that we will get it as christmas present before end of the year.
Outside of vulkan I couldn't care less about nougat.
In fact I think it should be called 6.1 not 7.0, there is nothing interesting about it multiple windows? This has been around for awhile if the app supports it.. My note 3 had multi window support and so does the LG v10 it's pretty useless
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It should also be noted that marshmallow doze features can be enhanced with 3rd party apps such as ForceDoze which can decrease the time it takes for doze to kick in when the screen is off.
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seems like they made a teaser for android 7 on LG V10 on their IG post lol
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seems like they made a teaser for android 7 on LG V10 on their IG post lol
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Link?
I posted this from Android Authority about a week ago...
LG Android Nougat Update
LG has earned pretty good reputation among devs for updating their flagships faster than anyone else to the latest Android version. Last update also, LG updated their flagship, LG G4 to Marshmallow soon after the update was released for the Nexus devices. We can expect that for the current flagship LG G5 and the previous flagship LG G4 with LG Android 7.0 Nougat Update.
Here is the list of all devices which will get LG Android Nougat Update :
LG G5
LG G4
LG V10
These are the devices which are confirmed to get the Nougat Update from LG, we don’t have any confirmation till now. We’ll be updating the post when it will be available.
Also, LG’s updates are generally lagged by the carriers in US, so the LG Android Nougat Update timeline may vary from different carriers like Verizon, Sprint, etc. And we can expect the updates to come to the devices listed above just after 2 months from release of Android Nougat.
Long story short, at least we're getting it. After rumors of the V20 coming out already many people believed LG would forego the update to pressure people into buying the V20. We know now, that's not the case.
I for one would really like the Nougat update. Split screen might have existed since a long time ago but official support from Google means wider adoption. Vulkan of course is another must have feature along with the improved Doze. I also love the interface seen on the V20 including the notification/quick toggle shade. The V20 also allows the second screen toggles to work whilst the main screen is on (sound, wifi, flash, camera etc.), something that the V10 does not allow. Hopefully this will be implemented as well along with other second screen improvements like allowing all notifications to go on the second screen.
The doze improvements can be brought to marshmallow via ForceDoze which can make doze kick in immediately when the screen is off.
Multi screen I have never found particularly useful for even big screen phones, there is simply not enough room to legitimately work with. Great for tablets nearly useless for phones.
Correct me of I am wrong but The hardware has to support vulkan in order to take advantage of it right? Pretty useless unless you've got a newer phone that can use it.
Nougat to me sounds more like a minor update (should be 6.1 not 7). It sounds like the most lackluster update to android yet.
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from my experience with LG devices and updates, firt G5 will receive the 7.0 until ends of September/October and next V10 until ends of December or earlyer January! Dont bother too much, we will receive it anyway!
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LG G5 F700L Korean version has got Nougat 7.0. I am from India and I got this update via LG bridge software,
I do have LG V10 but still no luck with LG bridge. I manually downloaded MM kdz file from LG site and flashed.
It was quite unfortunate though, as back when Nougat was released last year, LG initially listed G4 and V10 to receive Nougat. I just hope with the re-affirmation by them that they will test the firmware well and not do a botched job of the Nougat build. Since it is highly unlikely we are getting the next O software by Google, let's hope we atleast get the latest Nougat 7.1/7.2.
question: I love and hate this phone...camera is great in steady shot, but when fast focus is needed it fails. When I take pics of kids, lots of pic. came out blurry, now, what do you think, can Nougat fix this or it's just slow hardware?
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question: I love and hate this phone...camera is great in steady shot, but when fast focus is needed it fails. When I take pics of kids, lots of pic. came out blurry, now, what do you think, can Nougat fix this or it's just slow hardware?
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i think Nougat doesnt fix what you want, only thing Nougat will bring to us most likely is the new UI from G5/V20 or G6, some doze optimizations, multi-window will be more friendly and nothing more...
hope they can fix the Hi-Fi DAC to be used with the speaker and not only with the earphones, hope to less system storage ocupied by the system and more to the user, and really hope the GPS will be fixed too because my V10 fixing time of GPS is fast but, every 2/3 minuts lost signal and this is really what have dissapointing me in this device!
...and (i dont belive this will happen but) i hope they remove the sh1tty beauty mode for the front facing camera, this make the photos look ugly and have 0 quality!
Since this probably will be the last OS to our V10 i think users deserve unlockable bootloaders and then users can cook their own rom's and kernels (this is a dream for me since day 1 of have the phone in my hands, since july last year!).
Root LG V10 - TMobile
It's possible with Dirty-Cow root.
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Root the V10 with bootloader locked and Android 6.0 Marshmallow is impossible...
The only method to root V10 with bootloader locked is on 5.1.1 Android Lollipop with some kind of dump, i know its possible because when i have my G Flex 2 i have bootloader locked and i root it in 5.1.1, but when update to 6.0 Marshmallow i cant root so, if you want root for now you need to be in 5.1.1.
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https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
While I would like to assume that the Moto x pure edition will get it, this article seems to be an opinion piece with little or no supporting info other than his ramblings and definitely nothing from Lenovo/Moto.
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Nice. Another garbage site with no credible info. I love how in their comments this "Motorola" author is answering questions on wether or not so and so device will get Nougat, like they're 100% sure.
Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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The g4s are garbage and I spoke to a rep today and he told me to stay away from them haha a Lenovo rep said this! Bought one yesterday and the screen was all glitchy took it back today traded it out and paid the difference for the plus and same thing before even leaving the parking lot. Finally got pissed and said screw it and got a moto x pure style again. Loved this phone the first time I had it and love it now! Guernetee it gets nuoget and if it dosent.. well.. there will ALWAYS be Roms haha lol. But what I was trying to get at with the g4 phones is that's more than likely the reason they "might" get it.. I'd doubt it though honestly. Lenovo ruined the Motorola line. Ya the z is bad ass but come on man. The pure style was the best phone they had made in YEARS! Besides the Nexus 6. I'm super disappointed in the joke Lenovo has made!
Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
aybarrap1 said:
Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
aybarrap1 said:
There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Oh well, i think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that the Z will be upgraded after MXPE. I actually think once the Z will be available worldwide it will get the N update to boost sales. I'm only saying that it would be difficult to convince people to buy an expensive phone unless they have a guarantee it will be a long investment. Updating quickly the XPE should give that guarantee that even Z will be maintained after its one year anniversary.
skinnykinney said:
https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
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That motog3 site is just an pile of advertisements and SEO bait. It's not legit.
After dealing with Moto/Lenovo support a few times, my impression is that Lenovo is struggling to appear like they know what they're doing. Their repair program is musical chairs, tech support doesn't know what's going on, and they haven't been able to maintain the software. Even if they've outsourced Nougat, I doubt they've purchased any followup bug fixes.
I just saw that CM14 7.0 dropped for the Android One, Oneplus 3 and a few others today. That should help things along a bit. Once it exists, as it now does, it usually makes it's way to other devices pretty quickly. :fingers-crossed:
i want ask ... i don't know if my question is stupid or not LooL
if lenovo dont include our MOTO X phone to update list
can the Rom developer here make custom ROM with N Update? or they need something from lenovo (like permission or code) ?
Zekial said:
I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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But you should believe @Zekial When Moto, was a Google Company, and not official bought by lenovo, they update their smartphones very fast, Nexus 5 receive Lollipop after Moto X . Now Moto sucks, only this week in germany they update their phones to 6.0.1 (security update from may ).
Pure will be updated for N, when is the problem, could be this year or in the next.
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
dammit, and i just rooted my phone finally today.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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I don't think that article tells us anything we don't already know. I read it yesterday and it just says "should" and "probably" with no sources.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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Just another fluff article... zero information, just speculation and opinion.
The "news" now on neurigedget... Hmm
not officially confirmed
http://neurogadget.net/2016/09/24/m...tedly-get-android-nougat-update-october/40315
Meanwhile, the Moto X Play, Moto X Style, and Moto X Force, will receive the update on November.
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First hello to everyone,
I was wondering if this time will be the same as it was with G6 so I asked support and they answerd this
I qoute
Good afternoon Alen,*
Thank you for your query regarding your LG G7;*
I have had a look into this for you and sadly as we are an in warranty repair centre this is not something that we get advance notice on. As LG handsets only got Android 8 a few months ago I am guessing that this would be at some point in the early quarter of next year.*
Once the android version is created it then has to go to the individual manufacturers who then test for compatibility and will rework anything which causes issues and then the testing on handsets begins and I am led to believe that this is a length process.*
The likely hood is that the update will be on the handsets before we even know that it has been released.*
So when it comes to update, even with "lg's new update center" thing will be the same.
And to be clear i don't hate or something, I am okey with my device preformances this is more discussion type post cuz as i remember lg said that this new center sill get us update faster and clearly thats not the case
Sorry for typos
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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I could not agree more to this. Software upgrades are a nice thing if they take the time to run it stable. I prefer stable software and better security above that. Thats why i left Sony for one reason tru unstable releases that took long time to fix or not and a phone that loose hes full functuality with crashes or connection problems at most important times is a pain.Untill now my G6 did fine and my G7.Be patient and be happy your G7 is a trusty companion on the way.
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This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
Support rarely if ever gets any info about things like software releases up until they actually come out. Until LG actually makes a statement it is best to just be patient.
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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
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Even my G7+ (India Variant) is on june security patch. At least security updates have to be released if not OS updates. Every money transfer is don't online nowadays, LG should take it seriously. Also there is still no 4k 60 fps update that rest of the world got.
Android P on the G7? Don't hold your breath. At the earliest, I'd say March of 2019. More realistically is May/June however. LG is quite terrible with Android updates.
8bitbang said:
This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
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Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
fernando sor said:
Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
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Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
8bitbang said:
Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
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Yeah unfortunately I was stuck with tmobile. I agree the pixel is the way to go.
The only issue I have with the Pixel is Google using it to push there cloud storage. That's why they won't put SD card slots on them. And I'm sorry but despite the fact it's 2018 we are still not a 100% connected world, not to mention at least in the US almost every carrier has data limits. Plus there are some that don't want to put everything they own up in the cloud. SD card storage is really the only reason I won't buy a Pixel.
And don't even mention USB-c adapters, I shouldn't have to carry around extra crap for more storage!
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Apple have good products but not good for 1000 $ or more. They do update older models but we all know that they also made older phones go slower and there was problems with battery drain ect.
I am from Bosnia so here Iphones are really expensive and i mean it. Also Pixel is just a little bit cheaper.
I really like LG phones, after my HTC I had G4 G5 G6 and now G7. If I hadnt drop my G6 and brooke it I wouldnt even go to G7.
For the money you get good quality phone, nice specs and I dont mind ux cuz i am not fan of that rounded look on stock android.
I went and took Huawei p20 after my g6 and I had it for a day then returned it give more money and bought G7 cuz p20 is like toy compared to g7.
And even updates are not that big of a deal for me but what i mind is that they promised that big update center for faster updates and now not that we wont get android 9 for a while but as you guys said we are still on july patch.
I know that its better to wait for stable versions but they could be more efficiant with patches.
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sooner then u think
Take a look
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Take a look
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Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
LookedPath said:
Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
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thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
J0SH1X said:
thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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thx buddy
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Hi, how did u installed this custom rom?
Anyway, official Android Pie looks to be way forward from now. LG V40 was just released, with Android 8.1 .....
On the bright side, for those with smart watches using Google Wear so was Wear OS 2.0 just released and it is entirely based on 8.0 Oreo. I suppose handsets with Android 8.0 will have a more bug free experience using those watches.