Hi, I'm currently on the AT&T carrier on Oreo 8.0.0 ( G955USQU2CRC5, latest update ) and a random message pops up randomly saying that "Device Health has stopped" or "Device Health keeps stopping".
The only option is "Close app" and when I hit it, all it does is close the message for it to pop up again randomly.
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Anyone else having this problem and/or have a solution?
Could this be part of the 8.0.0 update?
Every time I Google this message, the only thing I find is posts about S Health which I don't think this is.
I'd look through your apps under settings see if you find it select show system apps as well. Delete data if you find it. It's something I would've done.
eddyo1993 said:
I'd look through your apps under settings see if you find it select show system apps as well. Delete data if you find it. It's something I would've done.
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That's the thing, nothing under apps, even with system apps enabled, shows under "Device Health." The closest thing I have to this is the one for Samsung health and I've already tried to clear cache, delete data, force stop, etc. It doesn't do anything.
I've tried resetting the phone, reflashing the phone, resetting app permissions, and making sure I don't download too many apps, but it always ends with the same result.
I'm starting to think this is an AT&T specific problem or something, so I might try reflashing some other version later.
acrospore said:
That's the thing, nothing under apps, even with system apps enabled, shows under "Device Health." The closest thing I have to this is the one for Samsung health and I've already tried to clear cache, delete data, force stop, etc. It doesn't do anything.
I've tried resetting the phone, reflashing the phone, resetting app permissions, and making sure I don't download too many apps, but it always ends with the same result.
I'm starting to think this is an AT&T specific problem or something, so I might try reflashing some other version later.
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Try this. Go to device maintenance under settings, then on the top right click what looks like a piece of paper you'll see apps that keeps crashing. Maybe you'll find it there click on it and it should take you to the app information. That is if AT&T phones have it
eddyo1993 said:
Try this. Go to device maintenance under settings, then on the top right click what looks like a piece of paper you'll see apps that keeps crashing. Maybe you'll find it there click on it and it should take you to the app information. That is if AT&T phones have it
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Hmm... on that page I get nothing.
Who do you think I should contact regarding this issue?
acrospore said:
Hmm... on that page I get nothing.
Who do you think I should contact regarding this issue?
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Samsung+ forum maybe they could help
I have the same issue, have had it about a month now since I got Oreo.
This past weekend I did a factory reset. The issue was gone for about 2 days, now today it's back. I looked in the updates app lists and nothing updated that looks like it would be causing this.
All I really know is this is annoying as hell. Some days I know I click that error off well over 100 times, probably over 200. Most times it pops up you hit it 6-8 times to clear it.
edit - S8 here - Also RC5 version
RynoRama said:
I have the same issue, have had it about a month now since I got Oreo.
This past weekend I did a factory reset. The issue was gone for about 2 days, now today it's back. I looked in the updates app lists and nothing updated that looks like it would be causing this.
All I really know is this is annoying as hell. Some days I know I click that error off well over 100 times, probably over 200. Most times it pops up you hit it 6-8 times to clear it.
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I have fixed my phone, but it's a bit extensive and maybe not worth it depending on what you do on your phone.
I tried to follow this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3627255
and used the unlocked firmware and so far, on Oreo, I haven't gotten that message.
I also don't have any bloatware from AT&T so that's also a plus.
Just a thought, though.
acrospore said:
I have fixed my phone, but it's a bit extensive and maybe not worth it depending on what you do on your phone.
I tried to follow this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3627255
and used the unlocked firmware and so far, on Oreo, I haven't gotten that message.
I also don't have any bloatware from AT&T so that's also a plus.
Just a thought, though.
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So, simply unlocking it and not having ATT apps did the trick?
What about Samsungs apps?
I've rooted in the past but haven't done so recently, I'll definitely look into this.
Thanks.
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edit - BTW I just realized this is the S8+ forum, for anyone else that reads this and has an S8 you need to go there. Some of the downloads are different.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817
RynoRama said:
So, simply unlocking it and not having ATT apps did the trick?
What about Samsungs apps?
I've rooted in the past but haven't done so recently, I'll definitely look into this.
Thanks.
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edit - BTW I just realized this is the S8+ forum, for anyone else that reads this and has an S8 you need to go there. Some of the downloads are different.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817
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Samsung apps are installed and they work, just no carrier specific bloatware.
Also I believe that the phone is not actually unlocked, rather it only uses the unlocked firmware.
Just follow the "Carrier Switching" section with the XAA CSC code and then the "Flashing Unlocked Firmware" if you want to do what I did.
Did anyone find a solution for this? My ATT LG Phoenix II is doing the exact same thing and has been for the last couple weeks except it does it every 10 to 15 seconds so the phone is basically useless. I can find no Device Health application on the phone or even one that looks like it might be causing this.
Resolution to "Device Health Keeps Stopping"?
Did you find a resolution to this problem? If so, what action was taken?
Thank you
MindfulUser said:
Did you find a resolution to this problem? If so, what action was taken?
Thank you
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No. I didn't use it for a couple (few?) weeks and the next time I used the phone it still did it, but a LOT less often. The way it is now is just mildly annoying, not making the phone useless like it was. I assume there was an update that made it better but I really don't know what for sure.
Solution found?!
Good afternoon,
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I believe I discovered a resolution to this issue. I work for a City Government as an IT Specialist in our Mobile Device Support Unit. I handle over 3000+ device for all City employees. We've come across this exact problem about 3 times since Oreo rollout. Our standard device for all employees is the Samsung Galaxy S7. We've attempted a bunch of different things, from wiping the device completely to flashing an older version (Android 6.0) on the device to no avail. Previously we found that once EVERY APP on the device was updated along with the Software, the issue was resolved. However, as of today, I was working on another one of these troubled devices. I updated E_V_E_R_Y_T_H_I_N_G and the pop-up still showed. So, I told the user I would just replace the entire device and Smart Switch his content to the new phone. While I was in the transfer process (already switched the SIM) I noticed the troubled device didn't receive a single pop-up. This got me thinking, so I waited and tested the device some more without the SIM and didn't receive a single pop-up. This led me to believe the issue is likely correlated to Service. I had read on other websites that generally this issue is related to AT&T Samsung devices. Some solutions were to flash a vanilla OS (without bloatware) to cease the annoyance.
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After reinserting the SIM into the problem phone, I almost immediately received the pop-up.
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SO! I went diving.
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I came across a strange setting I hadn't considered / seen / wasted my time to read. It was to turn on and off AT&T Mobile Network Diagnostics. GREAT! If I have this "Device Health" issue and it seems to be tied to a data connection, this setting makes sense! If there is some error with the sending of diagnostics to AT&T then it would only make sense to receive this type of error. What even IS "Device Health?" So once I turned that off and reset the APN I haven't received the pop-up since.
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I am sure by this point my post is
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TL;DR
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Go to Settings > Connections > Mobile Networks > and turn OFF "AT&T Mobile network diagnostics"
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Go to Access Point Names > (3 vertical dots top right corner) > Reset to default
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Since doing that i haven't seen the pop-up.*
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Cheers
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Did everything except, there's no "AT&T Mobile network diagnostics" to shut off.
Still have the same problem.
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Has any of you gotten these type of message after trying to download a picture in a text msg???
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Has any of you gotten these type of message after trying to download a picture in a text msg???
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I can not say that I have. Do you have Sprint on your lock screen?
Yes I do have sprint .....
been getting them after flashing Damages ROM ..but I'm on pancake now and get them..
I've been experiencing this too. I get daily texts from The Weather Channel (i know, odd) and I get 2 messages: One from TWC number, and another with the same contents from Hiddenaddresssender.
HeroMeng said:
I've been experiencing this too. I get daily texts from The Weather Channel (i know, odd) and I get 2 messages: One from TWC number, and another with the same contents from Hiddenaddresssender.
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I never gotten those WTC text messages..
but whenever someone sends me a picture and I download it...it looks like it's downloading, then it shows me the "hiddensenderaddressr" message..
I uninstalled Handcent to see if that's the problem though....
someonenewhere said:
I never gotten those WTC text messages..
but whenever someone sends me a picture and I download it...it looks like it's downloading, then it shows me the "hiddenaddresssender" message..
I uninstalled Handcent to see if that's the problem though....
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I get it using Chomp, Handcent, and stock mms.apk
Have you all tried damages rom and then reverted to a previous version?
animal7296 said:
Have you all tried damages rom and then reverted to a previous version?
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Well I'm on Pancake ROM and I don't plan on using any 2.1 ROM's until we get one that doesn't mess up our phones..
I just used the stock mms app and it got the same message..
so it's not Handcent...
Used to get it all the time. Either your wifi is on when you're receiving a mms or you have the dreaded mms issue. You could try ##3282# , but most likely you'll need to hard reset.
"has any of you" lolol
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HERNANDEZ4LIFE said:
Used to get it all the time. Either your wifi is on when you're receiving a mms or you have the dreaded mms issue. You could try ##3282# , but most likely you'll need to hard reset.
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Wi-fi never on though, what will ##3282# will do? just a hard reset???
The last build I used I was able to send and receive MMS while connected to wireless... it may have been the Fresh Eris build though.. I thought it was DC but I could be wrong.
someonenewhere said:
Wi-fi never on though, what will ##3282# will do? just a hard reset???
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##3282# just re-activates your phone. Its not a hard reset. You wont lose anything. Id try that first before a hard reset. In my experience its just a temparary fix though. It will most likely happen again at some point. Does your phone have the htc logo on the back?
HERNANDEZ4LIFE said:
##3282# just re-activates your phone. Its not a hard reset. You wont lose anything. Id try that first before a hard reset. In my experience its just a temparary fix though. It will most likely happen again at some point. Does your phone have the htc logo on the back?
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yes I have the HTC logo....i don't have one of those "with Google" phone..
by re-activating it ...is that the same thing as doing the PRI Version issue?
someonenewhere said:
yes I have the HTC logo....i don't have one of those "with Google" phone..
by re-activating it ...is that the same thing as doing the PRI Version issue?
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No. Its the same process theyre using to fix the data service issue.
1. Open up your Dialer and enter ##3282#
2. You will be asked select either View Mode or Edit Mode, select Edit Mode.
3. When you are asked for a password you must enter your MSL.
4. Select Username then click your Menu Button
5. Click Restore
6. All of the Data Settings for your account will be restored and your phone will reboot.
7. When it turns back on and Sense UI completely loads then a message saying your phone is being activated will appear, the process takes about 3 minutes.
8. After your phone has been reactivated you need to update your Profile and PRL from settings.
If your phone skipped the activation part you may need to call customer support and tell them that your phone is telling you to continue activation.
Thats pretty much it. Your phone will reboot twice and then you can send yourself a mms msg to see if it worked. If not youll need to hard reset. Like I said its a temparary fix. I finally told sprint I was tired of having to hard reset my phone all the time and they sent me a replacement phone with the google brand. No problems since. If you call tech support theyll walk you through the same process after having you pull your battery and send yourself a mms and some other useless trouble shooting procedures.
Just did it...thanks alot amigo...
vamos a haver si eso lo arregla el problema...espero que si!
someonenewhere said:
Just did it...thanks alot amigo...
vamos a haver si eso lo arregla el problema...espero que si!
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Not a problem. Glad I could help.
Well I do get text messages...but whenever someone sends me an image i get the Anonymous: <subject> > - Message not found
I started getting this after flashing Damages Full Sprint rom and right now I'm on pancake ROM ..
someonenewhere said:
Well I do get text messages...but whenever someone sends me an image i get the Anonymous: <subject> > - Message not found
I started getting this after flashing Damages Full Sprint rom and right now I'm on pancake ROM ..
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Rom doesnt matter. It was happening to me even when I was using stock and pretty much every other rom I ever used. Only other thing to do is the hard reset. I researched this issue pretty much since I got my hero last year. Nobody seems to know why. Like I said if you complain enough to Sprint they might replace it for you. Or the official release may fix it. Or maybe damages latest will do the trick. He says hes got it all figured it out...
Looks like I'm going to have to wait for the 2.1 update though..
Damages latest didn't do the trick, flashed it last night and it was the same thing..
There are a few people complaining of seemingly random reboots, myself included.
I have bell stock, unlocked, unrooted.
It started to happen at almost my second month mark with this device, while listening to Spotify or Tapatalk browsing or simply just idle, just noticing the bright startup screen all of a sudden. This reboot occurred once or twice daily.
I repaired the phone using the Sony pc companion, I also restored all of my settings and most of the apps.
No undesired reboot for almost 2 weeks, until moments ago, listening to google music thru Bluetooth (which I do most of the time anyways.)
I have kept a quite small number of apps while waiting to see what triggers the reboot, nothing you'd consider risky, I'd mention Nova launcher, aquamail and tasker. I haven't install yet greenify, lux, call recording app or the like.
What I did do lately (yesterday and the days before), I uninstalled or disabled some of the bloat, nothing of importance I think. Here's the complete list of disabled apps.
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Honestly, not used to these reboots, while I've seen some in the past, they would be pretty rare, on rooted and custom roms.
Is this a common occurrence among the z5 folks? Any idea what triggers it? It looks like being soft related, but have no idea really, perhaps someone more knowledgeable attempts to address it?
Cheers!
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millicent said:
There are a few people complaining of seemingly random reboots, myself included.
Cheers!
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Never happened to mine, although more than 200 apps installed. I would suggest do a factory reset using PC Companion...
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Never had a reboot here.
Can you check in diagnostic if there is an app acting weird?
I might enable back all app and check if the reboot persist or remove tasker and try.
One more thing u can do ia trying ur phone in safe mode.
gm007 said:
Never had a reboot here.
Can you check in diagnostic if there is an app acting weird?
I might enable back all app and check if the reboot persist or remove tasker and try.
One more thing u can do ia trying ur phone in safe mode.
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There was no application information in diagnostic pages, however it asked me to send app usage data to Sony which I did. I assume it might help when this happens next time.
I reenabled a few apps and will see what happens next.
My last factory reset happened precisely 9 days ago, according to same diagnostics. I have counted the user apps, 48 apps in total, I could remove maybe half of them without any remorse
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No reboot on mine either if I'm honest.
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no reboot here aswell...using it for 3 months now.
No undesired reboots also.
I see. I was under the impression that this was a more common occurrence. My bad.
Will probably attempt another factory reset if can't fix otherwise.
Until then, please ignore this thread.
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I actually have had random reboots. I've also had moments where the screen refuses to wake up properly. It'll switch on but stay black. It hasn't happened in a long time, though.
millicent said:
I see. I was under the impression that this was a more common occurrence. My bad.
Will probably attempt another factory reset if can't fix otherwise.
Until then, please ignore this thread.
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I've had a few on my first unit.
Did the screen turn fuzzy like a snow storm on an old TV? (I don't know how to describe it, u know what I mean)
I got mine replaced because of faulty camera lens and display, now I haven't had one single reboot (other then the reboots I requested myself obviously)
I get some (when overheated or sometimes while switching from cellular to WiFi or WiFi to cellular).
Not to bad 90% of the time, though supper annoying when it happens while listening to music/podcasts.
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I wouldn't mind a random reboot once in awhile. It is advised to reboot it yourself once a week anyway.
When it started to happen here it was kinda annoying, at least daily. It mostly occurred while listening to music via Spotify, but I also had it reboot while chatting in hangouts and once while talking to a bell agent..
So yeah, I'm trying to prevent the daily occurrence to happen and so far seems to have worked. After the steps I mentioned yesterday, no reboots so far and I went through pretty much everything I do with my phone.
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I saw my phone rebooting once when I put it in pocket, I do not think it caused by overheating. I thought maybe I accidentally hit power button.
But thing went strange when it did not recognize wifi. I found it lost every wifi password spots.
Every other apps still are fine (I do not any problem except wifi problem). My phone is E6653 with newest .200 firmware.
I think I just encounter once (but very serious), and I am not sure whether it reboots any more times when I do not know.
on z5 , random reboots are related to xposed. if you install xposed , you will get them
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on z5 , random reboots are related to xposed. if you install xposed , you will get them
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Not entirely true. Yes, this can happen but I haven't event unlocked my BL, let alone rooted and flashed Xposed; yet I've still have reboots.
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on z5 , random reboots are related to xposed. if you install xposed , you will get them
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Not rooted here, unfortunately can't unlock bl. Hopefully an alternate root method will come someday..
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I very much suspect the random reboots to be related to disabling one or several apps shipped with this device.
I am trying to see if it's easy to spot the first one that will cause the reboot by disabling one at a time and waiting for eventual reboot.
Probably isn't too worthwhile since next big update is around the corner and hopefully fixed by then, I was thinking if somebody else might join the search for the offending app? It can only help, I think, trying to reproduce the issue and signal it to sony devs, just in case they don't know about it yet.
So some means to investigate this are:
A) disable one app at a time, manual reboot for good measure and wait ~ 24 hrs; if reboot doesn't occur continue with disabling the next app
or B) disable a bunch of apps, see if the reboot occurs on your device.
We are only interested in those apps sony decided to be install in system account: Album, File Commander, Music, Privilege Plus, PS stuff, Video, What's new, Xperia Lounge, etc
If you can reproduce the issue, report back with the apps disabled and your firmware version. I will try to put together the results and see if we figure a pattern or simply send the data to sony.
rock on!
Try not disabling sony account manager and fb things.
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Try not disabling sony account manager and fb things.
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Fb stuff disabled for a while now, I think it's quite safe to get rid of.
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Other apps I am almost sure are safe to go are Xperia lounge suite, no reboots for more than a week
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Ok, Last night my Gear manager for my Gear S2 said that it was updating and then closed. I open it several times and it did the same thing! So I thought it was frelled! I removed all components of the Gear manager from my phone and any added software also rest my S2! Nothing Happened, went to the Gplay store an downloaded the gear manager again and now it installs but after I blue-tooth connects to my S2 it says make sure your phone is compatible! it is a VZ Note Edge a Samsung device that is not rooted or messed with. I need ideas and help or someone with a direct line to Samsung to ***** slap them! thanks
I too have this problem. Apparently a problem with the version of Gear App Manager specifically for Samsung phones.
I spent over an hour with Samsung support via their Live Chat tool. Bottom line is that their new version of the Gear App is flawed and they pulled it from their site. There is no working version of the app available at this time. I was told that a working version would be posted in a few hours. But I am not holding my breath.
If you HAVE A SAMSUNG PHONE, and you see this download failure, and your STILL HAVE BLUETOOTH CONNECTIVITY, then DO NOT UNINSTALL the Gear App or you will lose all connectivity!
I tried the recommended process of using the Internet App on my phone, going to 'apps.samsung.com/Gear' and then attempting to download the Gear Manager App specifically intended for Samsung phones. I got an error message that "Product does not exist in store (4002)". Even their tech support people were surprised by this.
I also downloaded the version of Gear App on Goggle Play. It did install but will not connect to the watch. Error message is "Check if your phone is compatible and if the Samsung Gear app needs to be updated, then try again."
I will attach pics of both attempts.
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Thank you it is nice to hear I'm not crazy and some one is working on it.
I should have come here first. Ended up reseting phone and watch, and now I'm stuck. Great phone (note 4) and great watch (s2 classic) but wtf Samsung. Get this fixed ASAP! I already miss having a good looking smart watch on my wrist that's usable.
Ragnarkov said:
I should have come here first. Ended up reseting phone and watch, and now I'm stuck. Great phone (note 4) and great watch (s2 classic) but wtf Samsung. Get this fixed ASAP! I already miss having a good looking smart watch on my wrist that's usable.
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Made my "Smart Watch" a very dumb watch real quick.
Try being in the habit of looking at your wrist everytime you hear your phone go off or to check the time and slap your self thinking ****!!
Ragnarkov said:
I should have come here first. Ended up reseting phone and watch, and now I'm stuck. Great phone (note 4) and great watch (s2 classic) but wtf Samsung. Get this fixed ASAP! I already miss having a good looking smart watch on my wrist that's usable.
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That was going to be my next step!
Different Error Msg
Now when I attempt to download Gear App Manager from the Samsung site 'apps.samsung.com/Gear', instead of the error message "Product does not exist in this store.", I get a different error message "This app not available for your device."
I hate Samsung with the power of 1000 suns.
I should have come here first. Like many of you, I tried to download the update, then uninstalled Gear Manager, then soft-reset both watch and phone and found myself well and truly hosed. I called Samsung and waited on hold for 20 minutes then explained my problem to one tech, who transferred me to another tech, who transferred me to the Galaxy Apps Support, who told me that she couldn't help me with an app I didn't download from the Galaxy store and hung up on me. I called back, waited on hold for 20 minutes, explained the whole ordeal again, and the tech said she would have to research it and call me back in 24-48 hours.
These are my errors, Frellin Samsung!
Just finished another long chat session with another Samsung technical support supervisor. Their problem has gotten worse in that they posted an updated version of Gear App Manager, but most people are getting the new error message "This app not available for your device." So the Samsung support center continues to be flooded with phone calls and support chat requests.
Again they say a fix should be posted in a few hours.
I don't believe them.
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Just finished another long chat session with another Samsung technical support supervisor. Their problem has gotten worse in that they posted an updated version of Gear App Manager, but most people are getting the new error message "This app not available for your device." So the Samsung support center continues to be flooded with phone calls and support chat requests.
Again they say a fix should be posted in a few hours.
I don't believe them.
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im on the phone with them now.. i have a stock s5 and a gear s2 same thing happened to me... i dont need a stand alone watch phone....the connectivity was the entire reason i got the thing...they are only 2 weeks and 2 days old (att refuses to help me at all) cant wait to have them take me off hold and blow smoke up my ass
Yup, just spent about 3 hours with att technical store. They are not aware of this issue! They had me factory reset my S2 and now it will not work. Damn Samsung! I have a useless Gear S2 Classic S2 3G version. Only S7 with Marshmallow will connect.
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On phone with Samsung tech support, they will call me back in 24-48 hours, it is a known "crisis".
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Yup, just spent about 3 hours with att technical store. They are not aware of this issue! They had me factory reset my S2 and now it will not work. Damn Samsung! I have a useless Gear S2 Classic S2 3G version. Only S7 with Marshmallow will connect.
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On phone with Samsung tech support, they will call me back in 24-48 hours, it is a known "crisis".
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LOL or *cry* - I've been on the phone with them for 80 minutes, mostly on hold for tier 2 support. So do I continue to hold (knowing they likely don't have a fix) OR do I hang up?
If you can stay and report back to us what they tell you. I still can't believe I have it completely unusable watch. It doesn't even tell time. At this moment unless you have an S7 comma if someone tells you to factory reset your watch you have no way to set it up
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If you can stay and report back to us what they tell you. I still can't believe I have it completely unusable watch. It doesn't even tell time. At this moment unless you have an S7 comma if someone tells you to factory reset your watch you have no way to set it up
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I gave up on the phone call. I will try again tomorrow. I have now used three methods to contact them: Chat, Phone, and "e-mail". Chat actually produced the most interaction, but still no solution.
thanks for all the help
FIXED! (sort of)
Finally, Samsung has the right App out there.
If you have Samsung Galaxy Apps, you should be able to get the update to Gear Apps Manager there.
If not, (Verizon customers) on your phone open either Internet app or Chrome and go to apps.samsung.com/gear . Then select the the version for Galaxy Devices. Should then see this:
This will download and install Samsung Gear ver 2.2.16022241. When the app is installed and then opened, it downloaded two more pieces of software which were then installed to the phone. (click on the prompts on both the phone and watch) This loads some update software to watch, but does NOT install a new version of the watch software.
BIG ISSUE: this updater removed ALL my watch faces from both the phone AND the watch. I will need to download and reinstall all my faces. (This may be due to the fact that I deleted the prior version of Gear App Manager and that likely deleted the associated "Data", ie watch faces)
UPDATE!!
So I have kept my watch off all day, turning it on and re-establishing a new connection from scratch every couple of hours to see if anything updated. And suddenly, IT WORKS NOW!
I had google play do auto updates earlier, and I didn't see Samsung Gear in the list of apps updated (it was long enough some wheren't on the notification screen), but I ran the app, and suddenly it downloaded the 30mb+/- update!
Now its just stuck at connecting to the watch...
I'll give another update when I get further in the process...
UPDATE 2!!
It works. Huzzah! It got stuck at connecting to the gear after the initial update. So I closed down the software, unpaired the watch in bluetooth settings, and restarted the watch again. This time around it connected and everything went smoothly. Finally. Its nice to have my watch back in working order.
For now.
Yeah I got the one from the gplay, and it worked! Again Thanks to all!
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Hi. So ever since i got the poco x3, my phone has been feeling uncomfortably hot. Its warm to the touch when unused and uncomfortably HOT with light tasks.
Upon delving deeper saw that the Google Contacts Storage process (part of Android Core Apps) is taking most of the battery. Thus resulting in heating up and getting an SOT of less than 5 hours. I have about 9000 contacts in my google accounts (7000 + 2000 in seperate accounts).
Ive tried everything and am unable to solve the issue.
1) Tried clearing cache and data and re synced all my contacts. Didnt solve.
2) Tried using a third party dialer and contacts app. Didnt solve.
3) Tried dividing those 7000 contacts in 3 seperate accounts. Didnt solve.
4) I have tried to remove all battery optimizations from the contact sync processes and phone processes. Didnt resolve.
5) Factory reseting from recovery. Didnt solve.
Ive been using the OnePlus 6 for 2 years before this and Relame 6 for a few months before this and never faced this issue despite having so many contacts.
Im running 12.0.3. Global Rom.
What can I possibly do to resolve this? getting rid of those contacts is not an option.
Also, secondly, my Google Backup is broken. No matter what I do its stuck at waiting to backup. I used adb to trigger it and it does back up but only once. Next day it gets stuck again. Any ideas for that?
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I used ADB to make the google drive backup available and after a restart this option became permanent available to me in settings. I did it about 1 week ago and I just check it out and is still available.
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I used ADB to make the google drive backup available and after a restart this option became permanent available to me in settings. I did it about 1 week ago and I just check it out and is still available.
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Hi. Thanks for the response. My main issue is actually the heating+battery drain. Im traveling this week and it is going to be a pain! I can live with manually backing up. Do you have any suggestions for the heating? Seems like call log backup/restore is also consuming battery since I've force stopped contact and phone app and started using another thrid party dialer app.
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... Ive been using the OnePlus 6 for 2 years before this and Relame 6 for a few months before this and never faced this issue despite having so many contacts.
Im running 12.0.3. Global Rom.
What can I possibly do to resolve this? getting rid of those contacts is not an option.
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hm, seems to me that this is miui12 issue, since your older phones didn't have that and it was working... I'm wildly guessing here, but you could try two things:
1. disable synchronization - it's possible that miui12 is trying to sync that many contacts and for whatever reason its cpu/resource consuming, or failing silently and trying again, and again...
2. disable miui12 optimizations in developer menu
and see if any of this help... don't forget to reboot your phone after any change you made and let it settle for a while...
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hm, seems to me that this is miui12 issue, since your older phones didn't have that and it was working... I'm wildly guessing here, but you could try two things:
1. disable synchronization - it's possible that miui12 is trying to sync that many contacts and for whatever reason its cpu/resource consuming, or failing silently and trying again, and again...
2. disable miui12 optimizations in developer menu
and see if any of this help... don't forget to reboot your phone after any change you made and let it settle for a while...
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Hi. I've tried both these options. Disabling sync results in the call log/backup eating up that share of battery.
Miui optimizations are off for all contact and phone related apps. First thing i did. ?
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Miui optimizations are off for all contact and phone related apps. First thing i did. ?
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ok, but i mean disable miui12 optimizations globally (there is one switch for it in developer settings) not only for certain apps... Did you by any chance disabled or uninstalled some bloatware from Xiaomi? Probably not, but uninstalling some part of system apps could also be responsible for this behavior...
Or you can unlock your bootloader and flash some pure Android ROM and see if that helps... I was only able to cope with MIUI12 for two weeks and that was it for me... I am now on NitrogenOS and couldn't be happier... no more Miui schizophrenia for me, thank you very much...
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Hi. Thanks for the response. My main issue is actually the heating+battery drain. Im traveling this week and it is going to be a pain! I can live with manually backing up. Do you have any suggestions for the heating? Seems like call log backup/restore is also consuming battery since I've force stopped contact and phone app and started using another thrid party dialer app.
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Not really. I'm using a xiaomi.eu ROM and no heating and battery drain issues....if you have unlocked bootloader, you can give it a try.
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ok, but i mean disable miui12 optimizations globally (there is one switch for it in developer settings) not only for certain apps... Did you by any chance disabled or uninstalled some bloatware from Xiaomi? Probably not, but uninstalling some part of system apps could also be responsible for this behavior...
Or you can unlock your bootloader and flash some pure Android ROM and see if that helps... I was only able to cope with MIUI12 for two weeks and that was it for me... I am now on NitrogenOS and couldn't be happier... no more Miui schizophrenia for me, thank you very much...
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Waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked. Applied for it. Is the Nitrogen OS stable? My custom rom experimenting days got over ever since I shifted to OOS. Would like to stick with one fully working stable rom.
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Waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked. Applied for it. Is the Nitrogen OS stable? My custom rom experimenting days got over ever since I shifted to OOS. Would like to stick with one fully working stable rom.
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well, it's still beta, but I can't tell bad word about it, if you go for NitrogenOS, you'll get responsive and fast dev, who's get things done faster that you can think of, excellent battery life, stable (I didn't have single random reboot), for me everything just works, and what is not is fixed within 24-48 hours, I am also talking about A10, since dev is currently working on A11 (it's flashable, but considered alpha)... also NitrogenOS is only custom ROM where you can choose which gapps you need to be flashed, all other ROMs have preinstalled gapps, but if you prefer that ... test this or that, only you can tell if it fits to your needs...
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well, it's still beta, but I can't tell bad word about it, if you go for NitrogenOS, you'll get responsive and fast dev, who's get things done faster that you can think of, excellent battery life, stable (I didn't have single random reboot), for me everything just works, and what is not is fixed within 24-48 hours, I am also talking about A10, since dev is currently working on A11 (it's flashable, but considered alpha)... also NitrogenOS is only custom ROM where you can choose which gapps you need to be flashed, all other ROMs have preinstalled gapps, but if you prefer that ... test this or that, only you can tell if it fits to your needs...
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Does it support 120hz?
If theres such good word ill definitely give it the first shot as soon as my bootloader unlocks next week. ?
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Does it support 120hz?
If theres such good word ill definitely give it the first shot as soon as my bootloader unlocks next week.
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It does.
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Does it support 120hz?
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yep, see the screenshot of settings here
@jeryll / @Alin45
That is great guys. Will definitely give it a shot next week once the bootloader can get unlocked and i successfully root my device!;??
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That is great guys. Will definitely give it a shot next week once the bootloader can get unlocked and i successfully root my device!;??
Last time I had such an issue, one or two of my contacts had characters in one of the fields Google very much didn't like, so could be a good way to check that as well.
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Last time I had such an issue, one or two of my contacts had characters in one of the fields Google very much didn't like, so could be a good way to check that as well.
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Alot of my contacts may have weird characters. But they worked fine in the last two phones.
Ever since my Galaxy S10e (AT&T) upgraded to Android 11 last week, I have been having major memory problems. If I switch from one app to another and then go back to the first, it has often been killed. When running some apps, my persistent notifications start disappearing and apps that I have running in the background are getting killed. I often find apps that would always be running in the background are now restarting when I switch to them. I use a Video Compressor app and it ran fine with very rare exceptions in Android 10 but now as soon as I start processing a video, my notifications disappear and if the screen goes off, the app starts processing again at the beginning of the video when I turn the screen back on. With Android 10, I could use several apps and the Video Compressor would work in the background. I have battery optimizations turned off for the relevant apps to the best of my knowledge.
Has anyone else experienced these issues? At this point, I seriously regret upgrading to Android 11.
I'm not sure if EVERY issue I have had with a Samsung phone is completely unique to me or I am just using the wrong forum. The silence always seems to be deafening on threads I start on XDA.
Scope storage sucks.
Try a factory reset and see if this helps. It's time too.
You could have it reflashed to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store if you can't resolve the issues.
After which disable AT&T updates completely. AT&T advance tech support can also turn it off on their end if you beat them over their heads a bit.
My 10+ is still running fast and stable on Pie... purposely.
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Scope storage sucks.
Try a factory reset and see if this helps. It's time too.
You could have it reflashed to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store if you can't resolve the issues.
After which disable AT&T updates completely. AT&T advance tech support can also turn it off on their end if you beat them over their heads a bit.
My 10+ is still running fast and stable on Pie... purposely.
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Thanks for the advise. Samsung phones are infamous for killing background apps due to battery optimizations, but now my background apps seem to be getting killed due to memory issues.
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Thanks for the advise. Samsung phones are infamous for killing background apps due to battery optimizations, but now my background apps seem to be getting killed due to memory issues.
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I disabled all battery optimization and used package disabling, firewall blocking, settings and occasionally clearing certain Google apk data to bring battery life into line.
Scope storage can use more memory but not that much.
Go to Developer options>running services/cache and see what dragging the memory down.
Did you do any system app updates after OTA?
That could be it.
I run the factory load for many of the Google apps. They run better.
AR Core was a horrible resource hog, I disabled it.
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I disabled all battery optimization and used package disabling, firewall blocking, settings and occasionally clearing certain Google apk data to bring battery life into line.
Scope storage can use more memory but not that much.
Go to Developer options>running services/cache and see what dragging the memory down.
Did you do any system app updates after OTA?
That could be it.
I run the factory load for many of the Google apps. They run better.
AR Core was a horrible resource hog, I disabled it.
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I don't have great battery life, but I use my phone heavily and sometimes use intensive apps, so I'm not complaining about that. I have pretty much all battery optimizations turned off (I'm actually currently helping Don'tKillMyApp correct their S10 info, which I never found correct).
The top 5 memory users on my phone are all system processes. I have disabled a number of apps. I have five different AR apps disabled, but I don't see AR Core on my phone. I noticed that One UI Home was in the top 5 at around 450 MB. I disabled that yesterday, since I don't use it (I use Nova) and spent some time trying to figure out why my recent apps button was no longer working. It is ridiculous I need to use 450 MB of memory just to use the recent apps button.
My cached apps don't seem to be using too much memory. I'm sure I have more apps than I need running in the background (Blokada, Bitwarden, a couple battery monitors, a VPN at times and so on), but I didn't really have problems on Android 10. I haven't added any more since upgrading to 11, but I seem to be having serious memory issue. This morning I had the VPN on and was downloading in the background in a browser and I switched to something else minor and when I switched back, the browser had stopped and the VPN stopped, killing my download and VPN connection, so it's seriously impacting the usability of my phone.
When you say you are running the factory load of Google apps, do you mean you have never upgraded them, or have uninstalled updates? I have never really paid attention to those upgrades and have just allowed them.
I seem to regularly see about 84% usage in developer options > memory. Unfortunately, I didn't record what these memory and cache numbers were when I was on 10. 84% sounds high to me, what is anyone else's phone averaging?
I think I definitely need to contact Samsung regarding this issue.
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I'm running on Pie so no idea how ARCore is being implemented now or if it's an issue.
On my 10+ Nova uses a lot battery and resources than One UI which is faster as well.
Factory load are the original apks with no updates. Many times updates help but not always.
My ram usage profile is similar to yours.
I have about 86 packages disabled.
Google Backup Transport and Framework can run even when disabled presumably due to dependencies. Periodically clearing there data, Google Play Services and the apk logs helps on this device.
Manual sync only except text, and Google Play Services is Firewall blocked except when needed.
All carrier, Samsung and Google feedback is turned off. Android Services is firewall block as it's not needed. Playstore is disabled and firewall blocked except when needed.
It been an evolving process... one reason I'm not eager to update to Q and start from scratch with this again. Pie is fast, stable and does everything I want it to. To date none of it vulnerabilities have been an issue; a forced reload is far easier than the upgrade
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I'm running on Pie so no idea how ARCore is being implemented now or if it's an issue.
On my 10+ Nova uses a lot battery and resources than One UI which is faster as well.
Factory load are the original apks with no updates. Many times updates help but not always.
My ram usage profile is similar to yours.
I have about 86 packages disabled.
Google Backup Transport and Framework can run even when disabled presumably due to dependencies. Periodically clearing there data, Google Play Services and the apk logs helps on this device.
Manual sync only except text, and Google Play Services is Firewall blocked except when needed.
All carrier, Samsung and Google feedback is turned off. Android Services is firewall block as it's not needed. Playstore is disabled and firewall blocked except when needed.
It been an evolving process... one reason I'm not eager to update to Q and start from scratch with this again. Pie is fast, stable and does everything I want it to. To date none of it vulnerabilities have been an issue; a forced reload is far easier than the upgrade
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Thanks for the reply and screenshot! Noticeably, the system on your phone uses more memory but you also have more memory to start with than my S10e does.
The only possibly memory-related issue I had on 10 that bothered me was a period of time when my recent apps menu was often getting cleared out, even of the locked apps. Both Samsung and AT&T told me I would need to do a system reset, which I didn't want to do, or take it into a store for a repair. For some reason, this issue seemed to have gone away before the Android 11 upgrade on its own.
I am going to try disabling or uninstalling apps that are running in the background that I don't really need and I'll try some of your suggestions such as disabling auto-sync. I really don't believe I should have to do this though since I wasn't having issues like this on Android 10 and the phone should be new enough to handle the upgrade without such issues, so I will contact Samsung to see what they say.
As I said, I am generally a fan of upgrades, but I really can't think of anything I have seen better about Android 11. Even the better control over app permissions doesn't seem as good as it was described. There are SERIOUS issues with some apps using the SD Card. At this point, I certainly wouldn't have upgraded if I had known this, and for me, that is saying a lot.
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Thanks for the reply and screenshot! Noticeably, the system on your phone uses more memory but you also have more memory to start with than my S10e does.
The only possibly memory-related issue I had on 10 that bothered me was a period of time when my recent apps menu was often getting cleared out, even of the locked apps. Both Samsung and AT&T told me I would need to do a system reset, which I didn't want to do, or take it into a store for a repair. For some reason, this issue seemed to have gone away before the Android 11 upgrade on its own.
I am going to try disabling or uninstalling apps that are running in the background that I don't really need and I'll try some of your suggestions such as disabling auto-sync. I really don't believe I should have to do this though since I wasn't having issues like this on Android 10 and the phone should be new enough to handle the upgrade without such issues, so I will contact Samsung to see what they say.
As I said, I am generally a fan of upgrades, but I really can't think of anything I have seen better about Android 11. Even the better control over app permissions doesn't seem as good as it was described. There are SERIOUS issues with some apps using the SD Card. At this point, I certainly wouldn't have upgraded if I had known this, and for me, that is saying a lot.
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Generally I close out apps after I'm done with them as some like Brave continue to run in the background sucking down the battery.
Migrating from Pie you lose a lot of valuable tools in the name of Google's big sister approach to security. Lol, Google is the biggest security risk on the phone.
Do the factory reset. After a firmware update it's best practice. For once the do a factory reload advice from the techs was sound
If you have an SD card use it as a data drive. The internal drive is for loaded apps, downloads (until vetted) and such.
Store all critical data there, files, music, vids, including copies of your apps (ApkExport) so you can do a full reload with little or no internet or your PC. Make a copy of the SD card data to your PC and 2 hdds that are electronically and physically isolated from the PC. Back these up as needed.
I can do a full reload in about 2 hours. 2 forced back to back reloads made me streamline the process. A forced reload doesn't happen often but can happen at any time. A SD card used as a data drive adds another level of redundancy and perhaps data security.
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Generally I close out apps after I'm done with them as some like Brave continue to run in the background sucking down the battery.
Migrating from Pie you lose a lot of valuable tools in the name of Google's big sister approach to security. Lol, Google is the biggest security risk on the phone.
Do the factory reset. After a firmware update it's best practice. For once the do a factory reload advice from the techs was sound
If you have an SD card use it as a data drive. The internal drive is for loaded apps, downloads (until vetted) and such.
Store all critical data there, files, music, vids, including copies of your apps (ApkExport) so you can do a full reload with little or no internet or your PC. Make a copy of the SD card data to your PC and 2 hdds that are electronically and physically isolated from the PC. Back these up as needed.
I can do a full reload in about 2 hours. 2 forced back to back reloads made me streamline the process. A forced reload doesn't happen often but can happen at any time. A SD card used as a data drive adds another level of redundancy and perhaps data security.
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Thanks for the info, I will consider the factory reset if I can't make any progress on this issue. I chatted with Samsung today and they told me to wipe the cache in recovery, which seemed like a valid suggestion to me, so I will see if that makes any difference
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Thanks for the info, I will consider the factory reset if I can't make any progress on this issue. I chatted with Samsung today and they told me to wipe the cache in recovery, which seemed like a valid suggestion to me, so I will see if that makes any difference
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Just do the factory reset rather than chase ghosts. Nothing like a clean, fresh load... then you can see if there really are issues that need resolved. Hopefully only minor ones.
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Just do the factory reset rather than chase ghosts. Nothing like a clean, fresh load... then you can see if there really are issues that need resolved. Hopefully only minor ones.
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In all honesty, though you make it sound like nothing, I am very afraid of loosing things if I factory reset. I spend a lot of time personalizing my phone just as I want it and even if I can reload my apps, I worry about the time it will take to get my battery widget color just as I want it . Not everything allows exporting the settings.
It would have been less of an issue on my rooted Galaxy S4 with Titanium Backup (which I still have as a backup), but my S10e isn't rooted. I use Alpha Backup Pro to backup apps sometimes, but after the upgrade to Android 11, it is no longer able to save external data, another disadvantage to the so-called upgrade.
If I was to factory reset my phone, what would I do then about upgrades. Can I decline the Android 11 upgrade but still accept the periodic security updates?
So far, things seem somewhat better after wiping the cache, but I don't believe the issue is resolved.
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In all honesty, though you make it sound like nothing, I am very afraid of loosing things if I factory reset. I spend a lot of time personalizing my phone just as I want it and even if I can reload my apps, I worry about the time it will take to get my battery widget color just as I want it . Not everything allows exporting the settings.
It would have been less of an issue on my rooted Galaxy S4 with Titanium Backup (which I still have as a backup), but my S10e isn't rooted. I use Alpha Backup Pro to backup apps sometimes, but after the upgrade to Android 11, it is no longer able to save external data, another disadvantage to the so-called upgrade.
If I was to factory reset my phone, what would I do then about upgrades. Can I decline the Android 11 upgrade but still accept the periodic security updates?
So far, things seem somewhat better after wiping the cache, but I don't believe the issue is resolved.
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Well designed apps that are hard to set up should allow the settings to be easily saved. Maybe some settings can be saved with Smart Switch.
Start now; streamline your reload strategy so it's easy, fast, redundant and loses no critical data.
It's a learning process that you need to put some thought into. All critical data should already be on the data drive.
Androids when they crash do it with little warning most times. Always being ready to reload makes it only a minor inconvenience.
As for 10/11 I have no useful workaround info as it doesn't concern me.
I've been running obsolete, unpatched OS's including Android for over a decade with very little trouble.
Far less trouble than upgrading to a "secure" system would cause.
No forced reloads from viruses starting with XPx64/Kitkat4. The one thing I watch like a hawk are email and downloads. Email stays in the cloud unless a download is absolutely required.
Pie continues to provide a fast, stable platform that does everything I need. No replacement needed as long as I'm using this device.
I block all updates.
If you should is up to you...
Everything related to my device is redundantly protected so if I do get hacked the most it will cost me is some time. If I suspect a device compromised (including erratic behavior) it gets reloaded.
I'm a bit ruthless about that; all OS's are expendable, data is not.
Whenever I set up a machine I assume it's will need reloaded sooner than latter. Everytime I've drifted from that premise it's been unpleasant.
Two back to back reloads on the 10+ impressed me enough to nail down my reload strategy.
2 hours instead of almost 2 days; shortcuts and fine tuning take another few hours. Whatever
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Well designed apps that are hard to set up should allow the settings to be easily saved. Maybe some settings can be saved with Smart Switch.
Start now; streamline your reload strategy so it's easy, fast, redundant and loses no critical data.
It's a learning process that you need to put some thought into. All critical data should already be on the data drive.
Androids when they crash do it with little warning most times. Always being ready to reload makes it only a minor inconvenience.
As for 10/11 I have no useful workaround info as it doesn't concern me.
I've been running obsolete, unpatched OS's including Android for over a decade with very little trouble.
Far less trouble than upgrading to a "secure" system would cause.
No forced reloads from viruses starting with XPx64/Kitkat4. The one thing I watch like a hawk are email and downloads. Email stays in the cloud unless a download is absolutely required.
Pie continues to provide a fast, stable platform that does everything I need. No replacement needed as long as I'm using this device.
I block all updates.
If you should is up to you...
Everything related to my device is redundantly protected so if I do get hacked the most it will cost me is some time. If I suspect a device compromised (including erratic behavior) it gets reloaded.
I'm a bit ruthless about that; all OS's are expendable, data is not.
Whenever I set up a machine I assume it's will need reloaded sooner than latter. Everytime I've drifted from that premise it's been unpleasant.
Two back to back reloads on the 10+ impressed me enough to nail down my reload strategy.
2 hours instead of almost 2 days; shortcuts and fine tuning take another few hours. Whatever
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Thanks for all the info. I have never had a phone crash, but I should know better considering the issues I have had with computers and a PS3.
rsngfrce said:
Thanks for all the info. I have never had a phone crash, but I should know better considering the issues I have had with computers and a PS3.
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Android is a remarkably stable platform normally.
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It has recently come to my attention that performing a factory reset, like you were suggesting, will not downgrade the system version (in this case 11 to 10), just reset the phone to a like-new state WITH the existing system version. I'm unsure if you were just suggesting a factory reset to 'clean up' Android 11, but I believed otherwise at the time. So I guess my only downgrade options would be reflashing to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store, as you also suggested, or going the root route.
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It has recently come to my attention that performing a factory reset, like you were suggesting, will not downgrade the system version (in this case 11 to 10), just reset the phone to a like-new state WITH the existing system version. I'm unsure if you were just suggesting a factory reset to 'clean up' Android 11, but I believed otherwise at the time. So I guess my only downgrade options would be reflashing to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store, as you also suggested, or going the root route.
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Exactly. When you don't do a factory reset after a major firmware update it tends to run poorly.
You're stuck on whatever was flashed to the device though, good or bad.
You need to reflash the old version if you want that unfortunately.
One reason myself and many others rarely upgrade an OS if we like it, it's running fast, stable and is fulfilling its mission.