Upgrading to Oreo: Worth it? - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

Hi peeps. I'm currently running my U11 on Rooted 7.1 Nougat Stock ROM, which I love to pieces, it's very smooth, fast & stable.
I would like to know what peoples experiences are with Oreo, since it's a big job to upgrade once you've rooted. Are there any real advantages to updating? Is it worth the hassle?
Give me the skinny
cheers :good:

kin'cheezus said:
Hi peeps. I'm currently running my U11 on Rooted 7.1 Nougat Stock ROM, which I love to pieces, it's very smooth, fast & stable.
I would like to know what peoples experiences are with Oreo, since it's a big job to upgrade once you've rooted. Are there any real advantages to updating? Is it worth the hassle?
Give me the skinny
cheers :good:
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I was glad to get it mainly for two reasons - A it allows our company client certificates to be imported that were too advanced or something for Nougat (so now I can browse our internal systems from phone) and B there is LDAC support (useful if you have high-end Sony BT headphones) and other Bluetooth hi-res audio codecs on top of regular aptX. I also find the UI neater, and like new option for do not disturb mode (notifications off until next planned silent time ends) but that alone wouldn't make me flash. Let's see what others have to say

Oreo was the start of all my problems... It's a tough situation though because Oreo brings with it the latest Android security patches...
But have had endless network, SMS and Wifi issues ever since.
Good luck!

Icons are UGGLLLYYY! as hell! And yes i know themes ... but cant fix all problems - you need to change launcher =(

deafmetal1 said:
Oreo was the start of all my problems... It's a tough situation though because Oreo brings with it the latest Android security patches...
But have had endless network, SMS and Wifi issues ever since.
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I suspect upgrade process is at fault, which wouldn't occur when re-flashing the rooted phone and restoring or re-installing your apps there. Just my guess though. Personally I didn't experience any such problems after OTA to Oreo.
nomaj said:
Icons are UGGLLLYYY! as hell! And yes i know themes ... but cant fix all problems - you need to change launcher =(
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Well, setting HTC Classical icons in Personalize - Edit current theme - Icons fixes most except for Google ones. I didn't really like how Oreo (or HTC?) rounded all the icons, with Google ones it works IMO.

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Let's try to fix Jelly bean official ROM bugs !!!

Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
THIS THREAD IS FOR FIX BUGS OF SENSE BY KEEP USING SENSE INTERFACE NOT BY USING OTHERS HOME LAUNCHERS
light_n_roses said:
Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
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For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
dariusz666 said:
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
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You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
AW: Let's try to fix Jelly bean official ROM bugs !!!
This shouldn't be posted in the dev section.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
Anyways it should be continued here as it's not new.
Darknites said:
You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
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But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
dariusz666 said:
But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
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Its not the best but if you want to keep JB Sense then thats all you can do for mass storage.
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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el_smurfo said:
Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
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If I would have fixed those bugs/things by using another launcher first of all I would have NOT open this thread and second I would have NOT bought an HTC device in the first place. I like sense and I want to keep using it, also I think that a lot of people think the same. If you want to use CWD or something like that you are free to do that and nobody has invited you here.
P.S. I apologize for posting in the wrong section
Maverick87Shaka said:
For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
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I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
light_n_roses said:
I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
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Try jelly bean keyboard pro, no lag at all and you can choose the size of the keys and the keyboard
Hi,
On top of that mentioned, I'm working with Hebrew UI and not the only one who faced a FC on the calendar when trying to enter/change a meeting with a recipient.
The same procedure while on English UI is all fine.
Already opened a help ticket which was already escalated to the technical support as BUG.
In terms of official roms, I see no benefit with JB over say, ViperS 1.2.1 (ICS).
In fact, I think its inferior in almost every way (things like no USB Mass storage mode etc).
I ran stock ICS for quite a long time (compared to what I normally do) and was quite happy with it, nothing particularly wrong with it.
Then came the JB OTA, and the forums got flooded with issues :silly:
I'm going to format my phone to see if then the keyboard keep lagging...I just need some times to do that...
Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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when you connect the phone to the PC you will see that device on the pc explorer and by entering in it you can access the drive but you cannot connect it as a removable disk...indeed this is disappointing
By the way I have erased all the data and reset the phone completely, now the keyboard it's a little better, less lag but still worst of the one on ICS
well the keyboard is pretty much the same..a little better but still laggy, I want the old back!!

Stay stock rooted or Aria's OdexLite?

Some questions about Aria's OdexLite ROM:
I rely on my phone a lot for work & I need at least the same stability as stock rom. Is the rom that stable?
Is the ir remote working in the rom? I don't have a physical tv remote. The S6 is my universal remote!
Do you use Edge panel in the flat s6 & does it drain battery?
Is Roboto Light present in Mini Font pack of Aroma?
Are the bloats like play movies, newstand, Skype, ms word present?
Do u guys know any recent videos or guides showing the initial setup features/options of the rom & aroma?
My problem is that my phone is currently stock rom June patch with root & everything working good enough for me with acceptable battery(3.5-4h sot) & stable. Being unable to update any ota, I'm having update withdrawal symptoms.
This rom looks perfect, but I don't want to start having fc or inconsistent performance or bad battery.
I'm kinda addicted to flashing & use my other devices for that urge, but I always spare my s6 from that & hence it's my most stable device. But OdexLite looks so tempting right now
What will u guys suggest me to do? Stay on stock rooted or enter OdexLite?
As always, I'll get most likely 0 answers since I wrote an essay
Even if you like to try OdexLite wait for a day or two, I will upload OdexLite 4.1 to try and fix 4.0 issues.
Some of people are experiencing stability issues such as no root or TWRP bootloop with 4.0

Oreo vs Nougat

Guys whom have updated, is it any better?
Any key differences
after updating to OREO everything works fine for me.
nothing is missed.
big differences:
* newer security patch level and better battery performance
* (and if it should work: ) project treble
BTW:
dirty over vs. new installation = in most cases it seems to make no differences (my experience)
:good:
Better multitasking, smoother transitions, menus are changed a little bit but overall it looks almost the same as emui 7. There are a lot of under the hood improvements such as notification settings better memory management and battery life.
Visually it's different (because new Android version).
What I found is that the lockscreen notifications for audio and video players have a visual bug - the controls are slightly off to the right so the 'next' button goes over the thumbnail and is hard to see.
Definitely better battery life. Don't really care for the new System settings layout but who cares, you only use it rarely? Never use stock launchers, so again who cares? Other than that it is great.
Better battery life for me ! All is working great.
Thanks gents
Still on the beta 321 version (567 US version)...STILL WAITING
But, the 321 version for me is stable
Oreo has all better things compared to Nougat except custom rom and magisk as well as xposed. It has only root with SuperSU, not enough for me. Will come back to Oreo later if Xposed is compatible
lemonade747 said:
Oreo has all better things compared to Nougat except custom rom and magisk as well as xposed. It has only root with SuperSU, not enough for me. Will come back to Oreo later if Xposed is compatible
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What are you using xposed for may I ask.
I used to run magisk to get YouTube ad free and ad blocker but there are ways around that now
sutty86 said:
What are you using xposed for may I ask.
I used to run magisk to get YouTube ad free and ad blocker but there are ways around that now
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I use xposed for many reasons as well as functions cuz no phone is perfect. And with xposed I can transform my phone to its hidden perfect mode lol It contains wide range of useful modules so it always make you feel interested in exploring and enjoying.
I am experiencing a few little issues that I am hoping will be addressed soon, though to be fair I think the problem is because of EMUI 8. Main problem is some of my widgets wont update. Oreo has some little features like app shortcuts which are cool but I wouldnt rush to upgrade.

MIUI 10 is utter SH*T.

Wow.
I dont even know where to start...
So i have a RN5, and was pretty excited to know, that MIUI 10 stable global is about to happen.
I'd never really thought this will be the worst MIUI experience ever.
First impressions was that the statusbar looks ugly af. Its bigger, bulkier, more thicker, its just ugly in general. MIUI 9 alredy had a pretty slick design, why on earth do you need to change that.
Some texts HUGE, even if im on the ''xs'' settings under display options...
Next, i came to realize, that the most loved feature (by me) was also gone: if you enable ''silent'' mode, it will NO LONGER MUTE MEDIA. I had to use a Samsung device for a week, and this really struckt me. I was really happy that MIUI have this feature, since its the most obvious thing in the world...
If i enable silenced mode its because I WANT MY DEVICE COMPLETLY SILENT. Not because i dont need ringer, but i dont need any sound. So instead of hitting a toggle button, i now have to press the button, and then select media, and then slide it mute as well.
Alright, lets move on.
Xiaomi said in their EVERY ADVERTISEMENT that it will be better experience on full-screen.
Well, nope.
Apart the new multitask screen, its even less usable.
On MIUI 9, I was able to enable 'force close' applications by enableing 'power+back button'. Since this is also one of my most used feature on MIUI (when i had a Redmi 1s, i used 'longpress back button'), i was a bit sad that in fullscreen mode i cant use this, but i found a way mentioned above, even if it requires two hands, it was managable.
Now they don't even let me to enable that feature. Whats more, there's no alternative. This so called 'better fullscreen exp.' is total bullsh*t.
Lets get to the 'one-handed' mode. There's absolutely no alternative here. You can put that option in quickball, wich is still a must.
But guys.
Dear devs. Do you have any idea about how inconvenient this update is?
I had to used a Samsung A5 (2016), and even on that device i was able to get in one-handed BY SWIPING UP FROM EITHER CORNER.
The list goes on
Cleaner. Oh my god... I have some (50 something) APK file. I CANT DESELECT THE WHOLE GROUP. I have to deselect them ONE BY ONE...
This is just what came to my mind at the moment...
So far the only positive thing about this update is the 60fps option. And nothing else.
I like the new design, but its mostly annoying, what more, infuriating. I'm using MIUI since v5, and I only saw improvement until this point. This is by far the worst upate. Everything about the looks and desing, but fuctions get lost, usability it the worst.
So please mr. developers. If you wanna copy iOS, copy the whole thing. Not just the looks, but the functions as well.
At this point, iPhone X is way more usable than MIUI 10. Heck, even MIUI 9 offers better overall full-screen experience.
What the hell happened?...
Dear devs, shame on you.
Yes I know that's the reason I am using pixel experience 9.0
I've been using MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM since I got my whyred and I can't complain about it.
People are always begging for the Global Stable version, which I can't understand. At least the first 2 or 3 global stable releases are more buggy than Beta.
Beta ROMs are always ahead, with some great experimental features and other well tested and functional ones.
An iPhone X or equivalent provides a much worse user experience. But if you like iOS so much, don't wait for Xiaomi to copy it. Buy an iPhone and have "fun".
That silent mode, you can get the old behaviour by going into setting > sound & notification > silent/dnd mode > silent mode and enable mute sound stream.
For that bigger status bar, i just change the dpi in setting > additional setting > accessibility > display and set it to small which imo is better with this screen display...
What are you talking about boy?
Enable one hand mode and then enable fullscreen gesture...
Change status bar font using display DPI (settings additional settings accessibility display size)
Enable dnd to silence everything
Don't forget this is initial build with version number 10.0.1 and you can expect revs will add more features in future build, patience is the key and just because you didn't like this that doesn't mean MIUI10 is S#t
You are in XDA just flash any custom ROM and get rid of MIUI completely
All the things you listed are called "personal preference". Just because you dont like it, doesnt mean everyone dont like it or that its bad.
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
I can buy Mi Max 3 or even flagship like Note9 but I see no reason to go to another phone because I have 2 options:
- Masik X 1.1/1.2 + Kirks kernel Oced @2.15GHz
- Many AOSP/PE Oreo or Pie available: most are good enough to use as daily driver
I don't play games, need battery life so RMN5 is very ok for me now
jokerpappu said:
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
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I literally bought a Xiaomi phone again, because of MIUI. On my previous phones i used to switch ROMs, but MIUI 7 really got me, and im a fan of MIUI ever since. Hence, im really pissed off that they're ruining it.
And to be exact, i really like the looks, except the things that i mentioned above.
But however i hate iOS, the design of the full-screen navigation is far better.
myrul said:
That silent mode, you can get the old behaviour by going into setting > sound & notification > silent/dnd mode > silent mode and enable mute sound stream.
For that bigger status bar, i just change the dpi in setting > additional setting > accessibility > display and set it to small which imo is better with this screen display...
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Thanks for the heads up for the silent mode. Even on MIUI forum, no user ever pointed that out...
But sadly the bigger status bar that im talking about is alredy on smallest settings. Im even using even smaller DPI settings, but it doesnt really help.
LeekGeek said:
What are you talking about boy?
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miguelca said:
I've been using MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM since I got my whyred and I can't complain about it.
People are always begging for the Global Stable version, which I can't understand. At least the first 2 or 3 global stable releases are more buggy than Beta.
Beta ROMs are always ahead, with some great experimental features and other well tested and functional ones.
An iPhone X or equivalent provides a much worse user experience. But if you like iOS so much, don't wait for Xiaomi to copy it. Buy an iPhone and have "fun".
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jokerpappu said:
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
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tell me its the same...
insetta said:
tell me its the same...
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i dont know what u r talking about with this screenshot gif bt overall the performance battery life stability the things that matters are good so i am good with miui 10 and its just the beginning so it will get better and better
insetta said:
Thanks for the heads up for the silent mode. Even on MIUI forum, no user ever pointed that out...
But sadly the bigger status bar that im talking about is alredy on smallest settings. Im even using even smaller DPI settings, but it doesnt really help.
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What do you expect from the miui forum that ask stable release when miui 10 is still buggy(the early day of miui 10 beta) and keep blamming the dev cause of no new feature/just bug fix after the second public beta release with no suggestion at all (sometime even turn someone down cause of some UI suggestion). I wanna facepalm myself when i read their forum.
I find MIUI 10 very beautiful and promising.

Xz2 Compact 52.0.a.3.27

Hey my phone has just get the update, is this pie already?
Ok, yes, is android P already ?
That is a LOT sooner than I expected. Great work Sony!
Yep! Just installed the update and this is Android Pie. Really fast Sony!
Let me ask can you turn off gesture control? What is the navigation like compared to vanilla pie?
I use Nova Launcher but navigation is like it was before, no gesture navigation like Pixel phones!
But damn that dark notification bar and quick controls panel is boring, all the interface is light and clear except that.
Pictures please
There it is. No specific changes at first glance. I'm going to test it on a daily use to see what's new deeper in the system.
Not all Pixel features are available.
Volume slider is a big issue, can't controle ring volume, only media!
And really not a fan of this half light/ half dark theme made in Sony... We should be able to chose which mode we want.
Not very convenient, that you can't expand the volume slider popup to do so - as before.
Also I'ld be cool about the rest, even the bulkier quick controls, if I could try/use gesture controls. But couldn't find any option to activate that.
Off Album art show in lockscreen on Android 9. I really love it???
Insert Picture error?
No gesture nav? Dang it, do you really have to have a Pixel for that?!
So glad there isnt gesture control. Sony always mods each build perfectly so we don't have to try out BS 'features'! So glad Sony is back to not being just about pretty hardware.
Anyone here who still hasn't even got the 51.1.A.11.51 update (September security patch)? For some reason my phone is still on 51.1.A.11.26 (August security patch) and just tells me it has the latest available system updates.
Bought it from amazon.es so it's not like it's my carrier that's "blocking" the updates. It also has more than 50% of space available on internal memory, so that shouldn't be the issue either.
Anyone try to test SD card speed?
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Do you also have this bug, that the switches are outside of the background?
papayayoghurt said:
Do you also have this bug, that the switches are outside of the background?
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It is a known bug on Android Pie, not a Xperia specific issue.
Need help
Hello everyone, I received this update too. But since I installed it, when friends or for work call me on the phone I do not have the time to answer ?! Can anyone help me?
Thank you very much
I updated yesterday, since then the fingerprint sensor doesn't work very well. It used to be very responsive. Anyone else noticed this?
That is ugly, and doesnt look useable. As far as the other bugs go and the camera having too many 'enhancements' think its best to stick with the last version of Oreo made. And not.go any further. Its true nowadays, whats old is always better!

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