Oreo vs Nougat - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

Guys whom have updated, is it any better?
Any key differences

after updating to OREO everything works fine for me.
nothing is missed.
big differences:
* newer security patch level and better battery performance
* (and if it should work: ) project treble
BTW:
dirty over vs. new installation = in most cases it seems to make no differences (my experience)
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Better multitasking, smoother transitions, menus are changed a little bit but overall it looks almost the same as emui 7. There are a lot of under the hood improvements such as notification settings better memory management and battery life.

Visually it's different (because new Android version).
What I found is that the lockscreen notifications for audio and video players have a visual bug - the controls are slightly off to the right so the 'next' button goes over the thumbnail and is hard to see.

Definitely better battery life. Don't really care for the new System settings layout but who cares, you only use it rarely? Never use stock launchers, so again who cares? Other than that it is great.

Better battery life for me ! All is working great.

Thanks gents

Still on the beta 321 version (567 US version)...STILL WAITING
But, the 321 version for me is stable

Oreo has all better things compared to Nougat except custom rom and magisk as well as xposed. It has only root with SuperSU, not enough for me. Will come back to Oreo later if Xposed is compatible

lemonade747 said:
Oreo has all better things compared to Nougat except custom rom and magisk as well as xposed. It has only root with SuperSU, not enough for me. Will come back to Oreo later if Xposed is compatible
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What are you using xposed for may I ask.
I used to run magisk to get YouTube ad free and ad blocker but there are ways around that now

sutty86 said:
What are you using xposed for may I ask.
I used to run magisk to get YouTube ad free and ad blocker but there are ways around that now
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I use xposed for many reasons as well as functions cuz no phone is perfect. And with xposed I can transform my phone to its hidden perfect mode lol It contains wide range of useful modules so it always make you feel interested in exploring and enjoying.

I am experiencing a few little issues that I am hoping will be addressed soon, though to be fair I think the problem is because of EMUI 8. Main problem is some of my widgets wont update. Oreo has some little features like app shortcuts which are cool but I wouldnt rush to upgrade.

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Is Lollipop Android 5.0 Overrated? No Xposed Framework?

I'm still sitting on 4.4.4 as I was waiting for some bugs to be squashed in Lollipop. Initially my thoughts about Lollipop were probably like most tech addicts, "newer is better." But in reading more in depth about the changes, I'm not impressed. So I pulled the trigger anyway on my LG Google Play Tablet (not my Nexus 5 phone.) And, I was not impressed at all.
- The notifications on the pull-down and lock screen are BUTT UGLY with the white background.
- No lockscreen widgets (which I use Widget Locker anyway, but still)
- No Xposed Framework compatibility (this one is a BIGGIE)
So I'm on the fence about upgrading my Nexus 5. Can someone tell me specifically what is so much better that it would justify overlooking these drawbacks (and other's I didn't mention) and upgrading now instead of waiting for a better version or at least until Xposed Framework supports ART?
jazee said:
I'm still sitting on 4.4.4 as I was waiting for some bugs to be squashed in Lollipop. Initially my thoughts about Lollipop were probably like most tech addicts, "newer is better." But in reading more in depth about the changes, I'm not impressed. So I pulled the trigger anyway on my LG Google Play Tablet (not my Nexus 5 phone.) And, I was not impressed at all.
- The notifications on the pull-down and lock screen are BUTT UGLY with the white background.
- No lockscreen widgets (which I use Widget Locker anyway, but still)
- No Xposed Framework compatibility (this one is a BIGGIE)
So I'm on the fence about upgrading my Nexus 5. Can someone tell me specifically what is so much better that it would justify overlooking these drawbacks (and other's I didn't mention) and upgrading now instead of waiting for a better version or at least until Xposed Framework supports ART?
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Only things that are better is more security loops fixed by google
I personally really like lollipop. It feels a lot more snappy than KitKat. Given that I know exposed framework issue is due to switch to art and the Dev can't find docs on it.
shinji257 said:
I personally really like lollipop. It feels a lot more snappy than KitKat. Given that I know exposed framework issue is due to switch to art and the Dev can't find docs on it.
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I'm curious what "more snappy" really means. Has anyone done any before/after timing comparisons to see how much faster it really is? Would it be any faster than going into Developer Options on 4.4.4 and turning ART on?
I said it feels more snappy as in visually. I think someone benchmarked between kitkat and lollipop on a device an found that lollipop actually ran a little slower in some spots. I think lollipop has only a couple of odd quirks. The biggest one being the lack of a sound toggle button in the notifications area.
Until Xposed works with ART, I cannot possibly upgrade. There are two things I like about Lollipop - 1) the notification pop ups and 2) the soft keys, which I can later customize with gestures. XPrivacy is the biggest deal for me, followed by APM+, App Settings and Secure Settings.

Life after Xposed - what apps are you using?

Hey guys, I've been waiting patiently for xposed to hit N however it looks like we might never get it. I was wondering what apps/mods everyone has been using in the mean time - possibly ones that function much like a favorite module etc.
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Hey guys, I've been waiting patiently for xposed to hit N however it looks like we might never get it. I was wondering what apps/mods everyone has been using in the mean time - possibly ones that function much like a favorite module etc.
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I haven't been paying attention to exposed so I'm curious why we may never see it?
aholeinthewor1d said:
I haven't been paying attention to exposed so I'm curious why we may never see it?
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I don't know the ins and outs of the development but briefly looking through the threads for N support a good deal of people are saying we most likely won't get it. With the security changes it seems like it's become much harder and, keeping in mind I haven't used xposed for about 4 or 5 years, that support for 6.0 was unexpected.
With the new phone I figured a few power users came over, and without xposed found their tweaks elsewhere via other apps and mods.
I mainly used it for luxury things like changing the UI (system icons in statusbar, misc system settings, volume button music control, etc.), which can also be accomplished with the many ROMs we have. Other uses were tweaks to snapchat, instagram, etc., that were nice things to have but I'd much rather have a newer phone and newer OS than stick with something old just for that.
Generally though, many of the features I liked about using Xposed years ago are either implemented in stock Android and applications themselves now, or can have similar solutions with just root.
Well, I have just a few things I use Xposed for and here are my alternatives for N:
Battery % and center clock: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/themes/mods-nmf26q-internet-traffic-speed-t3529573
Navbar swap recents/back: <same thread as above>
Headphone volume warning disable: Not sure how it disappeared, but I think this mod did it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-enabling-dual-speaker-audio-playback-t3492257
Animation speed @ 0.75% (I believe this is the perfect speed, not too fast nor slow ): http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-animation-speed-android-works-stock-devices/
Enable Google assistant: Oh wait.. the pixel already comes with it
Youtube block ADs: <no alternative found> If ya guys got any solution, please share!
Not a huge list, but that's enough customization for me.

Upgrading to Oreo: Worth it?

Hi peeps. I'm currently running my U11 on Rooted 7.1 Nougat Stock ROM, which I love to pieces, it's very smooth, fast & stable.
I would like to know what peoples experiences are with Oreo, since it's a big job to upgrade once you've rooted. Are there any real advantages to updating? Is it worth the hassle?
Give me the skinny
cheers :good:
kin'cheezus said:
Hi peeps. I'm currently running my U11 on Rooted 7.1 Nougat Stock ROM, which I love to pieces, it's very smooth, fast & stable.
I would like to know what peoples experiences are with Oreo, since it's a big job to upgrade once you've rooted. Are there any real advantages to updating? Is it worth the hassle?
Give me the skinny
cheers :good:
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I was glad to get it mainly for two reasons - A it allows our company client certificates to be imported that were too advanced or something for Nougat (so now I can browse our internal systems from phone) and B there is LDAC support (useful if you have high-end Sony BT headphones) and other Bluetooth hi-res audio codecs on top of regular aptX. I also find the UI neater, and like new option for do not disturb mode (notifications off until next planned silent time ends) but that alone wouldn't make me flash. Let's see what others have to say
Oreo was the start of all my problems... It's a tough situation though because Oreo brings with it the latest Android security patches...
But have had endless network, SMS and Wifi issues ever since.
Good luck!
Icons are UGGLLLYYY! as hell! And yes i know themes ... but cant fix all problems - you need to change launcher =(
deafmetal1 said:
Oreo was the start of all my problems... It's a tough situation though because Oreo brings with it the latest Android security patches...
But have had endless network, SMS and Wifi issues ever since.
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I suspect upgrade process is at fault, which wouldn't occur when re-flashing the rooted phone and restoring or re-installing your apps there. Just my guess though. Personally I didn't experience any such problems after OTA to Oreo.
nomaj said:
Icons are UGGLLLYYY! as hell! And yes i know themes ... but cant fix all problems - you need to change launcher =(
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Well, setting HTC Classical icons in Personalize - Edit current theme - Icons fixes most except for Google ones. I didn't really like how Oreo (or HTC?) rounded all the icons, with Google ones it works IMO.

Miui 12.5 is it good?

hey guys!
I was wondering if anyone got the hands on the new version of MIUI to know if they fixed all those bloatware apps and ads and if the battery and performance was improved?
I am on Arrow OS and by far is the one stable of any roms out there.
Thanks!
I'm on the latest MIUI 12.5.2 India ROM.
I'll give you pros and cons.
Pros.
1: Everything is extremely smooth now. No frame drops in UI, animations are way faster and actually consistent and smooth.
2: New UI for volume panel and other small areas.
3: I've never had any ads on any of my Poco devices, so no idea what you talking about.
4: Bloatware is still there depending on which region you choose, I chose UK and most of the bloat is actually from Google. Most of it is removable but not all.
5: Battery life is significantly better.
6: RAM management is absolutely perfect now.
Cons
1: Notifications and panel are extremely buggy. Manual fixes need to be made by downloading many system APK.
2: Still no choice to use third party launcher with gestures. (Maybe it's Google limitation or MIUI I don't know.)
That's about all I can think of for now.

Question Any tweak tools/oxygen os toolkits or anything for OOS 13? And is there a way to enable userdebug mode?

Im trying to find tools that can enable more customization and tweaks than what comes with stock OOS. I have a global converted tmobile LE2117. If anyone knows of any APKs or magisk/lsposed modules that are similar to gravitybox or firefds kit but for oneplus/OOS 13 any links/help would be appreciated. i tried the AOSP toolkit to no avail. I also have tried the Oxygen OS tweaks app on the play store but even its lacking a bunch of features and tweaks that i miss from Samsung galaxy note 9. Then there is LuckyTool for OOS but it also is missing features. Things like power button long press for torch and volume keys change media and stuff like that. Im also tryin to look into possibly changing the build mode to userdebug or change ro.debuggable from 0 to 1. I want to be able to change my boot animations. And the last thing would be customizing the fingerprint icon and other lockscreen stuff. Thank you.
Oxygen is byfare most costumizeable rom so , not sure what's your looking for with magisk you can change the fonts and emotie.
Butt that's about it I think ...
NLhardcore said:
Oxygen is byfare most costumizeable rom so , not sure what's your looking for with magisk you can change the fonts and emotie.
Butt that's about it I think ...
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then you havent used OneUI 1-5 + GoodLock. Samsung absolutely killed it with customizations and features. Even stock OneUI has a bunch of creature comforts OOS just didnt add or they overlooked them.
My only Samsung phone is unfortunately dead it was the Galaxy Note 3 and Samsung make quality phone butt I moved on to affordable brand sinds then i own 2 time 1+6
En this phone one+9 !
And your probably right butt Samsung is not really the right leak as 1plus !
riva! said:
then you havent used OneUI 1-5 + GoodLock. Samsung absolutely killed it with customizations and features. Even stock OneUI has a bunch of creature comforts OOS just didnt add or they overlooked them.
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But then you root, and lose the ability to use goodlock... so you need to use lsposed and gravitybox to get the tweaks back.
OP lsposed AOSPmods and Xposed edge pro you will find almost endless features between the two
*AOSPmods more for customizing, Xposed Edge for adding features like volume button launching (use double press to launch and tasker script)
PS: AOSPmods https://github.com/siavash79/AOSPMods
Xposed Edge is on play store (most useful module ever imo, so many features its insane and its 100 percent stable)
TimmyP said:
But then you root, and lose the ability to use goodlock... so you need to use lsposed and gravitybox to get the tweaks back.
OP lsposed AOSPmods and Xposed edge pro you will find almost endless features between the two
*AOSPmods more for customizing, Xposed Edge for adding features like volume button launching (use double press to launch and tasker script)
PS: AOSPmods https://github.com/siavash79/AOSPMods
Xposed Edge is on play store (most useful module ever imo, so many features its insane and its 100 percent stable)
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goodlock isnt disable if you root? i used stock android 10 rom on my note 9 rooted and goodlock still worked. and even then, most samsung phones have OneUI/android 10-13 ports from newer devices. and those usually all come with either optional goodlock install or goodlock support. as far as i understand, goodlock isnt root specific i believe, more just it being only country specific.
as far as AOSPmods go, i tried them on OOS13 to no avail. but i just reinstalled the TMO global conversion stock android 11 rom so i will try it again on there
Xposed Edge ive never heard of and i will check that out thank you.
My last phone A32 5G locked out all Samsung apps if root.
TimmyP said:
My last phone A32 5G locked out all Samsung apps if root.
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is it knox doing it? and what variant/modle identifier is it?
riva! said:
is it knox doing it? and what variant/modle identifier is it?
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I traded it in to get this phone.
It was probably knox... the phone hardly had a scene, I had to pay to get it rooted, and I was never able to update. These were conditions of the root.
Regardless I was able to do everything goodlock did with xposed, so in the end it doesn't really matter. Plus no samsung bloat.
TimmyP said:
I traded it in to get this phone.
It was probably knox... the phone hardly had a scene, I had to pay to get it rooted, and I was never able to update. These were conditions of the root.
Regardless I was able to do everything goodlock did with xposed, so in the end it doesn't really matter. Plus no samsung bloat.
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its a shame AOSP Mods doesnt support android 11. I havent had much luck with finding tweak/customization apps, modules, or twrp zip. I really miss my OneUI phone, easily hands down the best skin/variant of android made.
Why not use Android 13 and custom rom?
Why not use custom launcher like nova that trivializes OneUI or OOS? Exponentially more feature rich.
TimmyP said:
Why not use Android 13 and custom rom?
Why not use custom launcher like nova that trivializes OneUI or OOS? Exponentially more feature rich.
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i prefer Lawnchair over any other 3rd party launcher
And i have tried android 13 custom roms but i really hate stock android. Maybe if there was a modded/custom OOS 13 rom i would be more inclined to try one. Until then i stay away from stock/AOSP roms.

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