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Is Lollipop all it's cracked up to be?

Really don't understand what all the fuss is about re. the release of Lollipop. When looking at some of the options under "Settings", for example, there are some things that are missing that KitKat had. Selecting the font you wanted to use, for example. Seems like there are less options to control your phone.
Maybe there are some other things under the hood that make Lollipop better, but I'm not seeing it on the surface!

There are somewhat less options now but its a different look and feel. Folks get bored and need something new.

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Really don't understand what all the fuss is about re. the release of Lollipop. When looking at some of the options under "Settings", for example, there are some things that are missing that KitKat had. Selecting the font you wanted to use, for example. Seems like there are less options to control your phone.
Maybe there are some other things under the hood that make Lollipop better, but I'm not seeing it on the surface!
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Simple answer is no.
Loss of xposed framework support is huge too.

MaverickCoast said:
Really don't understand what all the fuss is about re. the release of Lollipop. When looking at some of the options under "Settings", for example, there are some things that are missing that KitKat had. Selecting the font you wanted to use, for example. Seems like there are less options to control your phone.
Maybe there are some other things under the hood that make Lollipop better, but I'm not seeing it on the surface!
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I'd have to agree that , no, there isn't anything magical about it really. I like the look, but something similar could easily be achieved with the proper themeing/ROM combo. The animations are nice, but I usually turn them off anyways. There may be some "under the hood" changes but nothing that will drastically change the user experience. Honestly, I think smartphones as a whole have hit a plateau. Minus some tweaks here and there, nothing really innovative has come along in some time. Perhaps the industry rushed towards advancement too fast. I think this is evidenced by the fact that how many pixels a manufacturer can cram into a screen, how awesome a selfie camera is and now animation styles have become selling points. Just my opinion though.

bjoostema said:
I'd have to agree that , no, there isn't anything magical about it really. I like the look, but something similar could easily be achieved with the proper themeing/ROM combo. The animations are nice, but I usually turn them off anyways. There may be some "under the hood" changes but nothing that will drastically change the user experience. Honestly, I think smartphones as a whole have hit a plateau. Minus some tweaks here and there, nothing really innovative has come along in some time. Perhaps the industry rushed towards advancement too fast. I think this is evidenced by the fact that how many pixels a manufacturer can cram into a screen, how awesome a selfie camera is and now animation styles have become selling points. Just my opinion though.
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Looks like the unlocked developer edition m8 getting the lollipop today.
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Call me a cranky old man. I don't like Lollipop. Have it running on my Nexus 7 (FHD) and another device I'm testing. Just a few things I don't like:
1. Used to be easy to EITHER swipe for notifications OR quicksettings, now what used to be simple takes at least two-taps
2. The dialogue for which app to use is at the bottom of the screen and looks like it's "falling off" the screen instead of in the middle.
3. Really not happy about the need to decrypt on boot (for some devices). It's just too darn easy for someone with evil intent to completely wipe another person's device "just for a hoot."
4. I do not see a speed increase with ART that makes it worth losing Xposed Framework.
5. Material design does not require Lollipop; it's just window-dressing and styling.
That's just off the top of my head. Every couple of days have to put the test device down and return to my M8 for the look and feel I like.
Newer isn't always better.

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Call me a cranky old man. I don't like Lollipop. Have it running on my Nexus 7 (FHD) and another device I'm testing. Just a few things I don't like:
1. Used to be easy to EITHER swipe for notifications OR quicksettings, now what used to be simple takes at least two-taps
2. The dialogue for which app to use is at the bottom of the screen and looks like it's "falling off" the screen instead of in the middle.
3. Really not happy about the need to decrypt on boot (for some devices). It's just too darn easy for someone with evil intent to completely wipe another person's device "just for a hoot."
4. I do not see a speed increase with ART that makes it worth losing Xposed Framework.
5. Material design does not require Lollipop; it's just window-dressing and styling.
That's just off the top of my head. Every couple of days have to put the test device down and return to my M8 for the look and feel I like.
Newer isn't always better.
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Specifically relating to your first point, I'm not sure what you mean. On Lollipop, you can pull down the notifications menu with a single finger or go straight to quick settings with 2 fingers. Just like Jellybean and KitKat. If you use the single finger swipe down to access notifications on Lollipop, you can simply swipe down again to access quick settings. On JB/KK, you had to tap a button to get to quick settings after pulling down the notification shade with 1 finger. Since the 2-finger gesture to go straight to quick settings still works in Lollipop, I'm really not sure I understand what's so inconvenient about how it's implemented vs JB & KK.

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Specifically relating to your first point, I'm not sure what you mean. On Lollipop, you can pull down the notifications menu with a single finger or go straight to quick settings with 2 fingers. Just like Jellybean and KitKat. If you use the single finger swipe down to access notifications on Lollipop, you can simply swipe down again to access quick settings. On JB/KK, you had to tap a button to get to quick settings after pulling down the notification shade with 1 finger. Since the 2-finger gesture to go straight to quick settings still works in Lollipop, I'm really not sure I understand what's so inconvenient about how it's implemented vs JB & KK.
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Sometimes the other three fingers are busy ?
One thing that kinda bugs me is that the notifications overlay the top part of the screen so if you are trying to type there (chrome) and someone is texting you like crazy it gets annoying quick.

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Specifically relating to your first point, I'm not sure what you mean. On Lollipop, you can pull down the notifications menu with a single finger or go straight to quick settings with 2 fingers. Just like Jellybean and KitKat. If you use the single finger swipe down to access notifications on Lollipop, you can simply swipe down again to access quick settings. On JB/KK, you had to tap a button to get to quick settings after pulling down the notification shade with 1 finger. Since the 2-finger gesture to go straight to quick settings still works in Lollipop, I'm really not sure I understand what's so inconvenient about how it's implemented vs JB & KK.
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Well smack me upside the head. Had no idea about the two-fingered pull down.....
My name is Harold and I'm a flashaholic.....

I think it's great. I'm running stock Lollipop (GPE), not the Fauxpop that just got released today for the international M8. KitKat is just the latest build of what started in 2011, about three and a half years ago. With Lollipop, we're living in 2015. It's really a lot of little things, though. ICS was, too, when it was new. The big changes came with Jellybean.
Regarding Xposed, none of the blame for that is on Lollipop. The Xposed developer had, I don't know, but I'm sure it was over a year, probably more, since ART came out, to get it working. He/They wanted to wait for the release of Lollipop to port it to ART. Now, having had all this time, it's all on them. But if Xposed was that good, and Xposed was open source, where's the community in porting it to ART on their behalf? Seems to me that not that many people even want Xposed. The supply follows the demand. Google isn't lifting the smallest finger to fight Xposed. They don't care. And apparently neither do the developers. Or maybe Lollipop's market share is too small. Last I heard, it was still under 0.1%.
Yeah, Lollipop's great. I might sooner go back to KitKat than switch to an iPhone, but vs switching to Windows Phone I might have to think about it. Realistically on my M8, I'm never going back to Android 4.x. It isn't worth considering. It's like, why would you go back to Windows XP? Sure, it was stable, but so is 7. So is 8.1. Hell, even the 10 tech preview is good enough for most people. Why would you go backwards? Or to put it another way, why would you make your phone all retro? Retro games are cool. Retro cars are cool. And retro music, or more precisely, classic rock, is cool. But personal computer operating software? Not just no but hell no. Give me the latest code I can safely and securely run.
Seriously... HTC One M8... On Verzion... Running the GPE... I have the best phone, on the best network, running the best software. I envy no phone... okay, the Nexus 6 just a little, but it's too big. M8's a little too big. I think the HTC vanity bar should have been at the top. Better thumb reach. But really, nobody's got it better.

no worries, lollipop will be great

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Opinions on EMUI

I'm considering the M5 8.4 to replace my aging Nexus 7 (2013) and would like some feedback on the EMUI software experience.
Do you like the skin? Is it similar to stock Android?
Since there probably won't be many ROM options, how is Huawei's track record with updates?
Thanks,
Rick
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There should be lots of ROM options shortly if not right away, since the device is Treble compatible as are other EMUI 8.0 devices.
For whatever it's worth:
I am running EMUI - but debloated with Nova installed (I couldn't imagine Android without Nova). I'm also not 100% sure what features are EMUI vs stock Oreo.
There's a "Launch" feature built in to EMUI that allows you to specify which apps are allowed to launch in the background, allowed to be launched by a secondary app, and allowed to run in the background. I like this feature, but if you don't bother setting preferences for each app, EMUI kills background apps somewhat aggressively.
EMUI lets you choose between a collapsible navbar (if rooted you can use Exposed Edge Pro instead), and/or a one-button navigation system using the fingerprint sensor - tap for 'back,' hold for 'home,' swipe for 'recents.' I am using the one-button system in conjunction with Edge Pro and to me it's pretty seamless (but I still have to work on not hitting the sensor by accident).
The dialer and SMS skins are fine. Stock DPI options are a bit high, but you can change via developer options (after every reboot). Stock camera app no longer works if you change the DPI, but you can always use opencamera (or change the DPI back).
The other day I had an issue with background music playback about 45 minutes into streaming music via an old version of eDJing premium. Issues stopped after I disabled Doze (via root app that I had set to run at boot). That's probably an Android issue?
Battery life for me is in line with what I have experienced with every similar phablet I have previously owned.
Anyways, all EMUI 8.0 devices share key things in common, so the dev community is larger than it seems.

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I also use Nova and will probably remove some of the reduny apps. I can see myself rooting and using Magisk.
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In my opinion the emui is not bad.
The personalization of Android that Huawei made is pretty clean.
However they obviusly add some bugs:
- adaptive icons do not works correctly: you can have only the circular one (even with Nova)
- the resolution of the display or the information that the apps get are really strange: some app starts always in landscape, no matter the actual orientation, other render the pages in strange ways when the tablet in turned fron landscape to portait, etc... Really really annoying
- battery optimization is too agressive and it is not (for me) completely clear how to tune it
- every time the launcher is updated, it switch back to its stock launcher, and i have to set the nova again as default (this can be done just in the default app in the settings). Probably this will happen also for other apps.
The hardware is solid and the battery life is good.
The position of the touch sensor and of the hardware buttons are not imho right and a big design failure.
If you keep the tablet in portrait with the touch button in the buttom: the hardware buttons are almost inaccessible unless you have a prehensile bellybutton ?
In landscape if you try to change the volume with the hardware button your finger will touch the touch button and the current app is "closed" (the tablet swith back to the home screen). This is a software feature (bug?) that i will like to change
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Also the Mediapad is now listed as enterprise device. I'd be surprised if they'd stop with updates soon.
As for EMUI:
It's a mixed bag for me. There are 3 annoying bugs which most likely have their origin in EMUI:
- 2 fingers at the same time without instantly moving makes the tablet not recognize the input anymore. (there is a thread on xda about it)
The other 2 are about the keyboard accessory which is probably irrelevant for you (for everybody else):
- flipping the cover from front to back triggers a "refresh", black screen on netflix or a return from edit mode to view mode in xodo pdf
- EMUI always asks if I want to start desktop mode when a keyboard is connected, doesn't matter if you tick the "don't remind me again" checkbox

giovaorama said:
- adaptive icons do not works correctly: you can have only the circular one (even with Nova)
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Squircle works for me. I think all work. I'm not sure they work how they should. Not that I care.
- the resolution of the display or the information that the apps get are really strange: some app starts always in landscape, no matter the actual orientation, other render the pages in strange ways when the tablet in turned fron landscape to portait, etc... Really really annoying
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This usually has to do with the apps, not EMUI. Install Rotation Control to force auto rotation across all apps.
battery optimization is too agressive and it is not (for me) completely clear how to tune it
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This is probably the biggest issue with EMUI. But almost everything is tunable and with root/feedback from other EMUI users, I don't expect this to be a long term issue for anyone. (I started having issues playing music in the background without a charger plugged in - they fixed themselves last night and I'm not sure why. My preferred music player app was last updated in probably 2011, might or might not be a factor.)
every time the launcher is updated, it switch back to its stock launcher, and i have to set the nova again as default (this can be done just in the default app in the settings).
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I can confirm that you do not have this issue as long as automatic updates are turned off. I have also seen a general improvement after uninstalling updates to Google Webview.
The one EMUI feature I like that I forgot to mention in my previous post, is Eye Comfort. It's a partial blue light filter that works better than any apps I've found on the Play Store.

Nope the adpative icons do not works, and this is something that you may corcern since this is one of the feature of Oreo and the app on oreo only gave icons to works as adpative. The circle one are just ugly.
Regarding the orietation, the same app works all correctly on my previous tablet and on all my other devices.
Root should not be required to solve implementation problem.
The sotck rom must be as much as posdible bug free.
For all this bug we should blame Huawei: have a look to the support fotum for nova launcher or chronus, just to understand the real situation.
As usual what it is important for someone count nothing for the others
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Hi anyone on EMUI in the UK with the 10.8 Wifi version (CMR-W09). Would you please tell me what is the version you are on (Latest). As I am considering going back from Lineage for a short while as there are too many bugs just now. Stupidly I didn't note down what version of EMUI 8 I should be on and there are tonnes of them. Cheers.

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Hi anyone on EMUI in the UK with the 10.8 Wifi version (CMR-W09). Would you please tell me what is the version you are on (Latest). As I am considering going back from Lineage for a short while as there are too many bugs just now. Stupidly I didn't note down what version of EMUI 8 I should be on and there are tonnes of them. Cheers.
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SHT-W09C432B151 (8.0.0.151) is what you need

Hey there,
It's not a mixed zone for me:
1) If I wanted an Ipad I would have bought that.
2) I do not like limits in terms of app-drawer etc. (fixed this, now using Nova Pro)
3) battery optimization too heavy: hell, using the keyboard with firefox (nebo, playstore, and may more) is almost impossible as the screen brightness lowers even if automatic brightness adjustment is turned off ...
What I love is:
1) Battery live
2) How it all fits together (So the "Iphoneish feeling" that I cried about above is not my taste, but it's a consistent Design at least ...)
I bought the Mediapad mainly because of the Pen, the Hardware, and the Keyboard(if I am not hating it for ausing brightness trouble...) and these are the things that I really like!

I don't mind emui has some good features and of you use Nova you can make it look stock. I like the themes and the book cover feature. I like the battery optimisation it lasts so well.

I'm trying to get ahold of the stock firmware so I can root mine.
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SHT-W09C432B151 (8.0.0.151) is what you need
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Thanks very much. Appreciated!

odd1ne said:
I don't mind emui has some good features and of you use Nova you can make it look stock. I like the themes and the book cover feature. I like the battery optimisation it lasts so well.
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the tab has great features but some disadvantages (brightness bug with keyboard for me ... weird behavior at least)
Best of all certainly is the battery life! And I am using Nova ... That's why the look is not too much of an issue

I do notice the aggressive doze feature.
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I decided to replace my aging, but beloved, Nexus 7 2013 WiFi (running LineagoOS 15.0) with something a bit meatier. After much consideration, I ordered and received a 32GB M5 8.4 (SHT-W09) from Amazon UK.
First up, the hardware is awesome. I really notice the difference with the move to 4GB RAM and the updated CPU / GPU. The performance is worlds apart from the Nexus 7 - very zippy, very responsive, games run great etc. The display also is a significant improvement - I really like the 16:9 ratio too and don't agree with review feedback that it impacts eBook and web browsing. It works great for those and just looks incredible for movies and TV. No surprises so far, then, given the 5 year old spec of the N7. On the subject of this display, note that both Amazon Prime Video and Netflix now support HD playback on the SHT-W09. Absolutely brilliant. Audio is fine, I'd always listen through Bose BT OE headphones anyway. The lack of 3.5" headphone jack doesn't bother me in the least.
So, on to the OP question about EMUI. To be honest, I really don't like it. The sheer number of junk apps installed is disappointing, especially as some (YouTube, for example) cannot be uninstalled. Note that of the 32GB available, only 16GB was available out of the box. Adoptable storage has been explicitly disabled in EMUI, so there's no option to use external SD as internal storage. A bit disappointing, but a 128GB MicroSD gives plenty of storage for media, if not apps. Within the UI itself, I miss the app drawer button (I'm sure there's an option somewhere) and it all just doesn't feel "familiar" enough for my liking. The Themes idea is great, but the version delivered with the tab only seems to support local themes - there's no "Theme Store" as such, unlike the phone version of the app. As such, customisation feels limited. I've simply installed Nova and couldn't be happier with the end result.
A really worthy replacement for the king of Android tablets, the Nexus 7 2013, so I'd encourage the OP to give it a go!

@mroshaw similar for me. I replaced my Nexus 7 (2012) by the SHT-W09 and I am quite happy. I uninstalled all the apps I do not use (ebay, facebook, some games, ...) and I replaced the laucher with the Pixel-Launcher. The only parts which still remember me that I am running on EMUI are the top bar and the configuration settings, but I can live with that.
I do not regret having it bought. There are not many Android tablets out offering such a build quality and performance for such a price tag.

I am growing to like the emui. It's got some grand security features. Like others, I uninstalled a TON of apps, disabled others, then I put an AOSP P Dark theme (from here on xda). The theme takes care of the notifications bar icons - I didn't really like the emui ones - plus "stock-ifies" most of the UI.
@mroshaw To activate the app drawer button, go to Settings, Display, Home Secreen Stlye, choose Drawer.
To enable SD card storage, Settings, Storage, Default Location. I have 45GBs out of the internal 64GB once I adb uninstalled bloat.

The deal breaker for me with EMUI is the missing option to plug in the tablet via USB and mount its storage to be visible and usable with any files operation (I use Linux only). There is no HiSuite for Linux and doing everything via adb is just a pain in the neck.
Having said that, the alternative is Lineage OS as the currently only alternative ROM, but this breaks two other things which are a deal breaker as well: No Bluetooth connectivity (its just dosn't pair anything properly), so no BT audio, which sucks when there is no headphone jack. Plus, with a custom ROM you lose L1 security in widevine, so no HD streaming with Netflix or Amazon video.
Fortunately, my usage for the tablet is different from my beloved N7; I mainly use it as a score reader for my piano. I wouldn't recommend it as a replacement for the N7; for that I bought the Lenovo Tab 4 Plus and it's a perfect replacement - except there are no custom ROM, But you can root it and the Lenovo UI is pretty much stock.

@DF5JT mtp works for me to access the device's internal and sdcard storage. Probably you need to configure your udev rules to identify your device correctly.

MIUI 10 is utter SH*T.

Wow.
I dont even know where to start...
So i have a RN5, and was pretty excited to know, that MIUI 10 stable global is about to happen.
I'd never really thought this will be the worst MIUI experience ever.
First impressions was that the statusbar looks ugly af. Its bigger, bulkier, more thicker, its just ugly in general. MIUI 9 alredy had a pretty slick design, why on earth do you need to change that.
Some texts HUGE, even if im on the ''xs'' settings under display options...
Next, i came to realize, that the most loved feature (by me) was also gone: if you enable ''silent'' mode, it will NO LONGER MUTE MEDIA. I had to use a Samsung device for a week, and this really struckt me. I was really happy that MIUI have this feature, since its the most obvious thing in the world...
If i enable silenced mode its because I WANT MY DEVICE COMPLETLY SILENT. Not because i dont need ringer, but i dont need any sound. So instead of hitting a toggle button, i now have to press the button, and then select media, and then slide it mute as well.
Alright, lets move on.
Xiaomi said in their EVERY ADVERTISEMENT that it will be better experience on full-screen.
Well, nope.
Apart the new multitask screen, its even less usable.
On MIUI 9, I was able to enable 'force close' applications by enableing 'power+back button'. Since this is also one of my most used feature on MIUI (when i had a Redmi 1s, i used 'longpress back button'), i was a bit sad that in fullscreen mode i cant use this, but i found a way mentioned above, even if it requires two hands, it was managable.
Now they don't even let me to enable that feature. Whats more, there's no alternative. This so called 'better fullscreen exp.' is total bullsh*t.
Lets get to the 'one-handed' mode. There's absolutely no alternative here. You can put that option in quickball, wich is still a must.
But guys.
Dear devs. Do you have any idea about how inconvenient this update is?
I had to used a Samsung A5 (2016), and even on that device i was able to get in one-handed BY SWIPING UP FROM EITHER CORNER.
The list goes on
Cleaner. Oh my god... I have some (50 something) APK file. I CANT DESELECT THE WHOLE GROUP. I have to deselect them ONE BY ONE...
This is just what came to my mind at the moment...
So far the only positive thing about this update is the 60fps option. And nothing else.
I like the new design, but its mostly annoying, what more, infuriating. I'm using MIUI since v5, and I only saw improvement until this point. This is by far the worst upate. Everything about the looks and desing, but fuctions get lost, usability it the worst.
So please mr. developers. If you wanna copy iOS, copy the whole thing. Not just the looks, but the functions as well.
At this point, iPhone X is way more usable than MIUI 10. Heck, even MIUI 9 offers better overall full-screen experience.
What the hell happened?...
Dear devs, shame on you.

Yes I know that's the reason I am using pixel experience 9.0

I've been using MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM since I got my whyred and I can't complain about it.
People are always begging for the Global Stable version, which I can't understand. At least the first 2 or 3 global stable releases are more buggy than Beta.
Beta ROMs are always ahead, with some great experimental features and other well tested and functional ones.
An iPhone X or equivalent provides a much worse user experience. But if you like iOS so much, don't wait for Xiaomi to copy it. Buy an iPhone and have "fun".

That silent mode, you can get the old behaviour by going into setting > sound & notification > silent/dnd mode > silent mode and enable mute sound stream.
For that bigger status bar, i just change the dpi in setting > additional setting > accessibility > display and set it to small which imo is better with this screen display...

What are you talking about boy?

Enable one hand mode and then enable fullscreen gesture...
Change status bar font using display DPI (settings additional settings accessibility display size)
Enable dnd to silence everything
Don't forget this is initial build with version number 10.0.1 and you can expect revs will add more features in future build, patience is the key and just because you didn't like this that doesn't mean MIUI10 is S#t
You are in XDA just flash any custom ROM and get rid of MIUI completely

All the things you listed are called "personal preference". Just because you dont like it, doesnt mean everyone dont like it or that its bad.

u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.

I can buy Mi Max 3 or even flagship like Note9 but I see no reason to go to another phone because I have 2 options:
- Masik X 1.1/1.2 + Kirks kernel Oced @2.15GHz
- Many AOSP/PE Oreo or Pie available: most are good enough to use as daily driver
I don't play games, need battery life so RMN5 is very ok for me now

jokerpappu said:
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
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I literally bought a Xiaomi phone again, because of MIUI. On my previous phones i used to switch ROMs, but MIUI 7 really got me, and im a fan of MIUI ever since. Hence, im really pissed off that they're ruining it.
And to be exact, i really like the looks, except the things that i mentioned above.
But however i hate iOS, the design of the full-screen navigation is far better.

myrul said:
That silent mode, you can get the old behaviour by going into setting > sound & notification > silent/dnd mode > silent mode and enable mute sound stream.
For that bigger status bar, i just change the dpi in setting > additional setting > accessibility > display and set it to small which imo is better with this screen display...
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Thanks for the heads up for the silent mode. Even on MIUI forum, no user ever pointed that out...
But sadly the bigger status bar that im talking about is alredy on smallest settings. Im even using even smaller DPI settings, but it doesnt really help.

LeekGeek said:
What are you talking about boy?
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miguelca said:
I've been using MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM since I got my whyred and I can't complain about it.
People are always begging for the Global Stable version, which I can't understand. At least the first 2 or 3 global stable releases are more buggy than Beta.
Beta ROMs are always ahead, with some great experimental features and other well tested and functional ones.
An iPhone X or equivalent provides a much worse user experience. But if you like iOS so much, don't wait for Xiaomi to copy it. Buy an iPhone and have "fun".
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jokerpappu said:
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
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tell me its the same...

insetta said:
tell me its the same...
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i dont know what u r talking about with this screenshot gif bt overall the performance battery life stability the things that matters are good so i am good with miui 10 and its just the beginning so it will get better and better

insetta said:
Thanks for the heads up for the silent mode. Even on MIUI forum, no user ever pointed that out...
But sadly the bigger status bar that im talking about is alredy on smallest settings. Im even using even smaller DPI settings, but it doesnt really help.
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What do you expect from the miui forum that ask stable release when miui 10 is still buggy(the early day of miui 10 beta) and keep blamming the dev cause of no new feature/just bug fix after the second public beta release with no suggestion at all (sometime even turn someone down cause of some UI suggestion). I wanna facepalm myself when i read their forum.

I find MIUI 10 very beautiful and promising.

Navigation bar android pie

Hello,
So today my xz premium got its update to android 9.
I need to get used of some stuff but overall its ok. Except for the navigation bar. Somehow the bar doesnt close anymore after i open an app. And there should be these gesture things that u can enable in settings ? Well i cant find them anywhere. Does anyone esle have the same issue or is it just me ? Hopefully someone can figure out how to fix this. Or maybe its just a mistake by sony and we'll soon get an update.

Now... I've search also the feature immersive (Full display); but it isn't anymore included (in the Stock FW)
First of all I try - after search in the IN - an app from a developer from this forum : GMD full screen.... the app works, but is a little bit old and the pro version (for no more support) to expensive. About that, that I've a rooted mobile, I have deinstalled the app and after continuous search, I use the app systemUI tuner.
With this app, I've also a Tilt in the upper bar to dis-/enabled the feature.
Till now, it's works fine with Pie

Thanks alot! I'll try tomorrow

Hopefully we get better navbar and proper Pie navigation with the next gen Xperia Home launcher.
Not a single word from Sony about that, for months now, since they stopped the development on the current launcher. Maybe the XZ4 lineup gets it.

I've managed to get it to work thank you. I have excluded xperia home so i do get the nav bar on my home screen and it hides in apps.
Hopefully we will get a better nav bar indeed on the next version of xperia home. Or maybe they will give us stock android ? I wouldnt mind.

From what I know (Im sure it was on Android Central), SONY have no intention of including the "P" Nave bar .. theyre just keeping the 3 buttons.. (Thank You SONY)..
Even on the XZ2, XZ2 P and the XZ3... still the Back, Home and Recent Apps buttons..
IMO, Im pleased SONY have kept them... theyre quick and easy to use, plus, like the removal of the 3.5mm jack, the new Nav swipe.... just a copy from from Apple, the iPhone X range..
Plus.. its a pain to use

Its okay that sony doesnt use the new gestures bar. But then atleast make the original navigation bar work as it used to. I also have the xz3 it also stays on there but the screen is bigger so it actually never disturbed me. But on the xz premium they had to keep it like it was.

Tymo95 said:
I've managed to get it to work thank you. I have excluded xperia home so i do get the nav bar on my home screen and it hides in apps.
Hopefully we will get a better nav bar indeed on the next version of xperia home. Or maybe they will give us stock android ? I wouldnt mind.
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You deleted xperia home launcher with adb and installed another one? Thats it?

profyler said:
You deleted xperia home launcher with adb and installed another one? Thats it?
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sorry for the late reply, but i used system ui tuner and in there i excluded xperia home so the nav bar would still be shown in the home screen but not in other apps.

You could also try the app Fluid NG. By far the best gesture Navigation I know and works flawlessly System Wide (including the Xperia launcher). You need to give it additional permissions via adb through...

Pie controls

Okay so I was very afraid of having a larger screened phone because I truly don't like to use two hands with my phone 90% of the time. So I've been using pie controls for years and I have to say I've really really found that using them has made my 7pro AMAZING but large screen much easier to use for switching apps or toggling wifi/data or any other settings. Truly I know it's like Samsung edge drawer or whatever it's called but honestly it's better. Instant access to atleast 20 apps without having to go back to home screen than back to the app drawer or folder and select the app. IMO one of the best "mods" or apps for a larger phone with so much ram for multitasking. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol

I was using Pie control for a long time and finally switched to this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ivianuu.pie
looks much nicer and has many options

MJFox78 said:
I was using Pie control for a long time and finally switched to this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ivianuu.pie
looks much nicer and has many options
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I shall check into that one for sure. Seems like the one that used to be called into a rom I use to use on my gs3.

MJFox78 said:
I was using Pie control for a long time and finally switched to this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ivianuu.pie
looks much nicer and has many options
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Wow i love it
Is there a way to hide pie icon in the status bar ?
If no I will deal with it

CodeBreaker13 said:
Is there a way to hide pie icon in the status bar ?
If no I will deal with it
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swipe right on the notification, tap on the cogwheel and disable notifications for the app

Do any of you have following problem with pie control : in full screen apps like camera, video, even picture or games I cannot see pie when I swipe, I feel it vibrates no I cannot see it and what it's the worst part if I'm in camera for example and "blindly" (as I cannot see it) use for example back function it works but then app I non responsive (it works but doesn't see my touches) and I need to "blindly" use pie control to switch to home/other app and go back. Then it works again until I use pie control again, it it annoying... It only behaves like that if I have navigation gestures activated (to hide the navbar), wieh navbar on it works ok but the whole point is to not have it and use full screen experience...

spawnn617 said:
Do any of you have following problem with pie control : in full screen apps like camera, video, even picture or games I cannot see pie when I swipe, I feel it vibrates no I cannot see it and what it's the worst part if I'm in camera for example and "blindly" (as I cannot see it) use for example back function it works but then app I non responsive (it works but doesn't see my touches) and I need to "blindly" use pie control to switch to home/other app and go back. Then it works again until I use pie control again, it it annoying... It only behaves like that if I have navigation gestures activated (to hide the navbar), wieh navbar on it works ok but the whole point is to not have it and use full screen experience...
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I'm using Pie control with navigation gestures activated too and I don't have this problem

MJFox78 said:
I'm using Pie control with navigation gestures activated too and I don't have this problem
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Yeah I had this problem with app from the first post, just tested the one from your link and so far it works fine in all apps

Ya'll should try Leedroid's Shortcutter, been using since first initial release. App drawer(you select) can open from the right left and now from bottom.

MJFox78 said:
I was using Pie control for a long time and finally switched to this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ivianuu.pie
looks much nicer and has many options
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Been using this apk since nexus 6p. It's absolutely amazing.

On Samsung this what I use. It blows Edge away.
Uses almost no battery, freeware, no ads or crap.
One Hand Operation + - Apps on Google Play
Use your device easily with only one hand !
play.google.com

blackhawk said:
On Samsung this what I use. It blows Edge away.
Uses almost no battery, freeware, no ads or crap.
One Hand Operation + - Apps on Google Play
Use your device easily with only one hand !
play.google.com
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Unfortunately the awesome aspects of that where it users no battery and all that jazz is because it is built into your OS. There are a few mod apps like that in the "Good Lock" family that actually are pretty nice on Samsung. They do us no good over here though.

whoamanwtf said:
Unfortunately the awesome aspects of that where it users no battery and all that jazz is because it is built into your OS. There are a few mod apps like that in the "Good Lock" family that actually are pretty nice on Samsung. They do us no good over here though.
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Edge* isn't that awesome and definitely uses more battery than One Handed Operation plus**, however the latter may be compatible only with Samsung phones.
One of the biggest reasons to choose Samsung is it's none root customization. The best ones come from the Galaxy Store. Hundreds of free themes, icon packs, AODs, and much more.
No other brand comes close.
*I use it for cut/paste management only. Other apps like One Handed Operation plus is superior in every way to Egde.
**not a native apk but one of the best 3rd party apks for the 10+ Rock solid stable.