Navigation bar android pie - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

Hello,
So today my xz premium got its update to android 9.
I need to get used of some stuff but overall its ok. Except for the navigation bar. Somehow the bar doesnt close anymore after i open an app. And there should be these gesture things that u can enable in settings ? Well i cant find them anywhere. Does anyone esle have the same issue or is it just me ? Hopefully someone can figure out how to fix this. Or maybe its just a mistake by sony and we'll soon get an update.

Now... I've search also the feature immersive (Full display); but it isn't anymore included (in the Stock FW)
First of all I try - after search in the IN - an app from a developer from this forum : GMD full screen.... the app works, but is a little bit old and the pro version (for no more support) to expensive. About that, that I've a rooted mobile, I have deinstalled the app and after continuous search, I use the app systemUI tuner.
With this app, I've also a Tilt in the upper bar to dis-/enabled the feature.
Till now, it's works fine with Pie

Thanks alot! I'll try tomorrow

Hopefully we get better navbar and proper Pie navigation with the next gen Xperia Home launcher.
Not a single word from Sony about that, for months now, since they stopped the development on the current launcher. Maybe the XZ4 lineup gets it.

I've managed to get it to work thank you. I have excluded xperia home so i do get the nav bar on my home screen and it hides in apps.
Hopefully we will get a better nav bar indeed on the next version of xperia home. Or maybe they will give us stock android ? I wouldnt mind.

From what I know (Im sure it was on Android Central), SONY have no intention of including the "P" Nave bar .. theyre just keeping the 3 buttons.. (Thank You SONY)..
Even on the XZ2, XZ2 P and the XZ3... still the Back, Home and Recent Apps buttons..
IMO, Im pleased SONY have kept them... theyre quick and easy to use, plus, like the removal of the 3.5mm jack, the new Nav swipe.... just a copy from from Apple, the iPhone X range..
Plus.. its a pain to use

Its okay that sony doesnt use the new gestures bar. But then atleast make the original navigation bar work as it used to. I also have the xz3 it also stays on there but the screen is bigger so it actually never disturbed me. But on the xz premium they had to keep it like it was.

Tymo95 said:
I've managed to get it to work thank you. I have excluded xperia home so i do get the nav bar on my home screen and it hides in apps.
Hopefully we will get a better nav bar indeed on the next version of xperia home. Or maybe they will give us stock android ? I wouldnt mind.
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You deleted xperia home launcher with adb and installed another one? Thats it?

profyler said:
You deleted xperia home launcher with adb and installed another one? Thats it?
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sorry for the late reply, but i used system ui tuner and in there i excluded xperia home so the nav bar would still be shown in the home screen but not in other apps.

You could also try the app Fluid NG. By far the best gesture Navigation I know and works flawlessly System Wide (including the Xperia launcher). You need to give it additional permissions via adb through...

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On-screen buttons

Hi all,
I'm a new Z3 owner, coming from a HTC M7. This is my first time with on-screen buttons and unfortunately, am not liking them so far. It's fine on the home screen, because they're transparent. But when in an app, the black bar takes up valuable screen space. Hate it. Any way to make them transparent everywhere or just hide them and bring them back with a swipe?? Why isn't this programmed in there already!?!?
Thanks in advanced.
Joshnor713 said:
Hi all,
I'm a new Z3 owner, coming from a HTC M7. This is my first time with on-screen buttons and unfortunately, am not liking them so far. It's fine on the home screen, because they're transparent. But when in an app, the black bar takes up valuable screen space. Hate it. Any way to make them transparent everywhere or just hide them and bring them back with a swipe?? Why isn't this programmed in there already!?!?
Thanks in advanced.
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You can hide them on the G3, but I dont think thats possible on the Z3. Flashing a ROM with support for this should fix the issue.
Not possible without flashing a custom ROM, unfortunately there aren't many custom ROMs available yet and you will lose a lot of features (as well as permanently reducing your camera's performance) if you go this route.
Try and get used to them, they are designed so that each app can take advantage of them differently.
Browsing through your images or playing a game, watching videos using the Play Movies or VLC app all make them disappear automatically as you describe.
There are several apps on in the Play store that will force immersive mode without root, just search "immersive mode". I have used the one by "Pieter Pareit" and it works quite well on most apps. If these darn app developers would start supporting immersive mode this would not be an issue. Better yet, it would be nice if Google had an option to select apps you want to run in immersive mode (like G2/G3).

Hide Softkeys?

LG, Huawei and a couple other companies have this feature baked into their take on Android, allowing you to hide softkeys on a per app basis. Anyone figured out a way to hide them on the Idol 3?
JJ2525 said:
LG, Huawei and a couple other companies have this feature baked into their take on Android, allowing you to hide softkeys on a per app basis. Anyone figured out a way to hide them on the Idol 3?
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I think to hide the navigation bar you need root but I'm not sure. Have you tried doing a google search for "Hide Android navigation bar"? There's app on the play store but again they may need root and root has not yet been achieved.
Shodan5150 said:
I think to hide the navigation bar you need root but I'm not sure. Have you tried doing a google search for "Hide Android navigation bar"? There's app on the play store but again they may need root and root has not yet been achieved.
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There is an app in the Play Store, It works without root , and actually is not bad. The free version does not allow per-app setting. I tested it for a little while, and then uninstalled. I think I will keep the nav bar - since it hides or becomes transparent in videos and photos anyway. The browser is the only odd case - and I will live with it for now - actually the back button may come handy !
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There is an app in the Play Store, It works without root , and actually is not bad. The free version does not allow per-app setting. I tested it for a little while, and then uninstalled. I think I will keep the nav bar - since it hides or becomes transparent in videos and photos anyway. The browser is the only odd case - and I will live with it for now - actually the back button may come handy !
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Yeah, I used GMD Auto Hide with the Z3 Compact and it worked flawlessly, but it doesn't seem to be too effective with my Idol. The time the softkeys bother me is during games that don't automatically put the screen into immersive mode, so not only do I usually accidentally touch one of the softkeys but it's also wasted screen real estate during gaming.
No one is currently working on this? This is surprising since soft keys are one of the most annoying things about the Idol 3. I'll hit up GMD Auto Hide Soft Keys developer and see what they can do to make this work for us!
Has anyone found a solution for this yet? I returned the phone after only a few hours because of this flaw. Extremely annoying feature. Takes a big
screen phone and makes it small again.
With root and xposed you can use the module "Hideable Nav Bar".
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You can try any cm version for our phone and it has this option you need embedded in the system under the name of expanded desktop in display settings.

Xz2 Compact 52.0.a.3.27

Hey my phone has just get the update, is this pie already?
Ok, yes, is android P already ?
That is a LOT sooner than I expected. Great work Sony!
Yep! Just installed the update and this is Android Pie. Really fast Sony!
Let me ask can you turn off gesture control? What is the navigation like compared to vanilla pie?
I use Nova Launcher but navigation is like it was before, no gesture navigation like Pixel phones!
But damn that dark notification bar and quick controls panel is boring, all the interface is light and clear except that.
Pictures please
There it is. No specific changes at first glance. I'm going to test it on a daily use to see what's new deeper in the system.
Not all Pixel features are available.
Volume slider is a big issue, can't controle ring volume, only media!
And really not a fan of this half light/ half dark theme made in Sony... We should be able to chose which mode we want.
Not very convenient, that you can't expand the volume slider popup to do so - as before.
Also I'ld be cool about the rest, even the bulkier quick controls, if I could try/use gesture controls. But couldn't find any option to activate that.
Off Album art show in lockscreen on Android 9. I really love it???
Insert Picture error?
No gesture nav? Dang it, do you really have to have a Pixel for that?!
So glad there isnt gesture control. Sony always mods each build perfectly so we don't have to try out BS 'features'! So glad Sony is back to not being just about pretty hardware.
Anyone here who still hasn't even got the 51.1.A.11.51 update (September security patch)? For some reason my phone is still on 51.1.A.11.26 (August security patch) and just tells me it has the latest available system updates.
Bought it from amazon.es so it's not like it's my carrier that's "blocking" the updates. It also has more than 50% of space available on internal memory, so that shouldn't be the issue either.
Anyone try to test SD card speed?
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Do you also have this bug, that the switches are outside of the background?
papayayoghurt said:
Do you also have this bug, that the switches are outside of the background?
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It is a known bug on Android Pie, not a Xperia specific issue.
Need help
Hello everyone, I received this update too. But since I installed it, when friends or for work call me on the phone I do not have the time to answer ?! Can anyone help me?
Thank you very much
I updated yesterday, since then the fingerprint sensor doesn't work very well. It used to be very responsive. Anyone else noticed this?
That is ugly, and doesnt look useable. As far as the other bugs go and the camera having too many 'enhancements' think its best to stick with the last version of Oreo made. And not.go any further. Its true nowadays, whats old is always better!

Vertical recent apps Android 10?

Is there any way to get vertical recent apps on Android 10 open beta? The horizontal recent is pretty much useless as it only shows one app on the screen.
Normally you install another launcher (Apex Classic as an option) and you have it (back).
exis_tenz said:
Normally you install another launcher (Apex Classic as an option) and you have it (back).
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Tried. But didn't work. I also tried old OnePlus launcher, that didn't work either.
dhruv2702 said:
Tried. But didn't work. I also tried old OnePlus launcher, that didn't work either.
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Hmm try using an alternative launcher and freezing/disabling the oneplus launchers
If freezing / disabling is what it takes, that is a pity for bon-rooters. That would really be customer unfriendly. I hate this whole gesture based thing because I use my fix gestures since 2014 when I started using Apex launcher. It would mean I need to reprogram my brains.
Freezing also breaks gestures
Perhaps soon it'll be introduced:
]https://www.xda-developers.com/late...t-third-party-launchers-already-live-pixel-4/
Here's hoping anyway!
I disabled the horizontal recents in pie.
Now after the update to 10, I don't have recents at all.
I reinstalled the oneplus Launcher. Still no recents.
Any ideas?
Is there any solution for this, the recent apps on the oneplus 7 pro is just horrible
Although the 7 pro is a brilliant phone, Oxygen isnt that great : I come from a Samsung with goodlock and i have to say that i am disappointed at the lack of options in oxygen.
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Is there any solution for this, the recent apps on the oneplus 7 pro is just horrible
Although the 7 pro is a brilliant phone, Oxygen isnt that great : I come from a Samsung with goodlock and i have to say that i am disappointed at the lack of options in oxygen.
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Not that I know of, unfortunately. I've actually just forced myself to get used to it....
There is no vertical recents provider in Android 10.
I have looked all over the playstore for an app that can do something like this but sadly nothing.
As an alternative i am using Jina sidebar and sort the apps there by last used.
Everyone complains about samsung's UI and raves about oxygen, but now that i have it i feel very much opposite
Oneplus 7 pro hardware is fantastic certainly for the price i paid for it, but the software leaves a lot to be desired. Sadly the country i live in has no possibilities for returning your purchase, otherwise i would run back to samsung.
Come on oneplus, make some software !
Any updates on this matter ?
When hell freezes over I'll get used to this stupid horizontal app switcher
If at least I could remap that button to one of those third party recent apps, but not even that.
Once ago (android P) I could freeze the default launcher, and things went back to normal. Now, if I freeze the launcher, nothing comes up.
I think back then the default provider was replaced by an alternative provider, which I would gladly download again if I remembered the name. Something with "quick" on it.

Question Black Shark 4 Navagation gestures, and official update support

Had this phone for a week now, and the Navagation gestures refuse to work, I can turn them on and use it for about 2-3 actions, then it automatically turns off and I have no way of using back, home, recents. I do turn off the bottom bar, but I tried with the bottom bar on and it is in the same boat. I am hoping it will get fixed in an update, how many Android version upgrades are black shark 4 supported for and how many years of security patches?
Thank you
If you use custom launcher like Nova or similar, navigation gestures will not work. You need to use stock launcher/home app so it can work properly.
Thank you for the advice and it does indeed fix the stock Navagation gestures. But I have to give up my preferred launcher, my icon packs, my live wallpaper. It redirects everything to the theme store I neither want to use nor pay for. Is it like this for all XiaoMi phones? It is almost like Samsung with the massive bloatware that trying to get you to use their exclusive services.
But Navagation gestures work, only with stock home app.
It is same on every android 11 and 12 device. Theme store is completely free, i didn't find single item that ask for money.

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