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When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
I've been running stock today and dev preview for a few weeks. Can't say I've noticed any lag.
Have you tried scrolling in the Google Calendar 5.0 ( schedule mode )
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Have you tried scrolling in the Google Calendar 5.0 ( schedule mode )
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It's not Lollipop. Everything is smooth for me. Even schedule mode in calendar.
Not sure what you are seeing. But its like butter for me. Best update ever. I doubt I'll hardly mod it. At all.
biraustefan said:
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
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Odd, my n5 is very smooth with lollipop
This is really curious , because my experience is really bad with it, and I don't know if the problem is hardware based ..
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This is really curious , because my experience is really bad with it, and I don't know if the problem is hardware based ..
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If it makes you feel any better, I too notice the lag in Caldender. Just scroll quickly. It has slight chop in the animations. Besides that, and a few other small things it's fairly smooth.
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If it makes you feel any better, I too notice the lag in Caldender. Just scroll quickly. It has slight chop in the animations. Besides that, and a few other small things it's fairly smooth.
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It's not unusable or something like that, but it bothers me , because the animations are not so heavy..and it should run kinda lagless like kitkat.
I really hope google will update the apps and make them smoother.
Lag in calendar, when you scorl up or down. Huge lag, when i play youtube music in backround (Bad App, or Lolipop? I think bad app). Lag is and will be there, if you want to see it. :silly:
Lag everywhere. I flashed 4.4 kitkat and it works perfectly fine. not the same with lollipop wich lags in every bit of the system when it's used more than 10 minutes. really disappointed
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Lag everywhere. I flashed 4.4 kitkat and it works perfectly fine. not the same with lollipop wich lags in every bit of the system when it's used more than 10 minutes. really disappointed
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Then something went wrong with your install. Otherwise, everyone would be experiencing this.
it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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I tried every method, factory images install and manual install, all multiple times.
It's one of google's most unpolished updates. No dedicated gallery app, no face unlock, no new sounds, sluggish google apps etc. I am a big google fan , but I find my self disappointed.
I'm waiting for app updates and wishing for the best.
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it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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Wait? Charging? Only charging?
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it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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Does the status bar and nav bar change colors? I don't know if the battery saver mode activates at 10% automatically since I never let my phone get that low. But if it does, it disable all animations and does become less fluid.
biraustefan said:
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
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You are not alone.
Animations and scrolling are in fact slower in Android 5.0 than in 4.4.4 by a large margin. You must be blind not to notice it.
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Does the status bar and nav bar change colors? I don't know if the battery saver mode activates at 10% automatically since I never let my phone get that low. But if it does, it disable all animations and does become less fluid.
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no, I know that when battery reaches 10% or 15% it slows down the processing power and eliminates animations.
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Wait? Charging? Only charging?
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yes, it usually goes "wild" when I have low battery and it's charging, and that means animation lag, 1-2 seconds for the keyboard to open etc. in rest..well it's acceptable, it's not , from my experience , as smooth as kitkat, but it's usable and ok.
Haven't had any lagging issues, in fact this runs smoother then kitkat did, quite happy with the upgrade to be honest. There is always going to be bugs to be worked out, wouldnt be surprised if we see 5.x.x within the next 2 months.
there are 2 camps. the one who say it work ok and the opposite.
I don't think I have flashed it wrong.
It reminds me of the moto 360 problem. Same as now, some said it's choppy, some said that it's fluid and they had no problem
Anyone who says Android 5.0 not laggy is lying, sorry.
Animations must be instant from a perspective of allowing further instant interaction. Let me explain: when something is being animated the resulting screen must allow interaction as soon as you initiate the change in user interface. Right now in Android 5.0, animations are done such a way, you cannot do anything until animation has completed its transformation - and that's called a lag, a perceived delay in user interaction.
Hopefully Google engineers visit these forums and this problem is going to be fixed in future Android 5 releases.
I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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Hello, as I did write, I did try to turn them off, but animations is essential, it is is important for a device to be fun to work with, turning them off looks the system looks very boring and non inspiring. Chaning the duration scale to 0.5x did help very slightly....is still very slow.. but I can understand if people getting used to the slowness but side by side with a different device it is very slow.. and the slow animations is to blame.. and every app use animations.
It seem like this, that until the app is loaded in the memory it is slow, the transition to open apps is very slow..
but the way you are using a smartphone is you close and open apps constantly, cause you have a lot of different messaging apps for instance you switch between them constantly.
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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So you can actually say you have a 60 FPS all the time ?
there is only 60 fps when you are at home screen but when opening and switching to app it is far below 60 fps..
I hope they get it fixed...
When the new update come I will do a factory reset also..I know that sometimes it can help..
Does any one know when we can expect a new update for European market ?
I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
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I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
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why u didnt go for g3?
The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
Simona Simmy said:
why u didnt go for g3?
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Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
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The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
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yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
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Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
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am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
Simona Simmy said:
am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
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Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
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Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
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Oh yeah .. I sold Honor 6 and purchased alpha samsung .. jesus christ when i turned phone and seen that crap display..
I wanted smash phone onto wall !! But I decided not to do it and resell it !
Now I have Mate 7 with PROPER bright screen ..
I was sad that I sold Honor 6 .. but I found Mate 7 for £300 pounds so bought it ..
Honor 6 , Ascend P7 and Mate 7 BEST screens on market !!
blackinfinity said:
yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
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Correct. Animations is below 60 fps.
mm79k said:
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Me too. No lag here.
@blackinfinity
Try check some dodgy app which runs and causing slow down.. or reset/erase whole phone and start again .. It is worth..
I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
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It was the same on mine, and in fact, it was laspass app !
Removing this app and my phone is smooth again. theverge.com is a good test.
Hope it helps.
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I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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This should work. other phones has their performance settings on default high, mate 7 use power saving mode as default.
I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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I have. But I only when have stamina mode turned on when I don't use the phone for long periods. Otherwise it is turned of.
Try turning it off and reboot your device. Normally the Z3 is working buttery smooth without any lag or stuttering. When activating extended usage the phone should display a message advising you to keep the setting turned off if it causes too much performance issues. In my experience, once you turn extended usage on, it kind of remains active in the background until you actually reboot the phone, even if you turn the setting off. I also find that the performance loss coming with the extended usage setting is out of all proportion to its power saving abilities.
Tried but that has no effect. Still way less smooth scrolling through fenix timeline than scrolling through exact same timeline on my wife's one plus. Really strange. Games are comparable but scrolling in all apps is just poor.
what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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what apps do you have installed? my z3 next to other peoples iphone 6's and s5 etc, seems lightning quick, again with extended stamina enabled. maybe you have a rogue app or an app running in the background killing your resources?
No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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i never really thought about it before, but maybe because i am using apex launcher? are you able to try another launcher, do you get the same thing?
do you have any dev options enabled?
I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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ok so its the apps that cause the problem then. how about the dev menu, do you have any options in there enabled? if so which ones.
Only Verify apps over USB and USB debugging.
hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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Just checked. It seems like the CPU is working fine though there are a lot of spikes when I only have cpuz open.
I think I will probably just wait and see what lollipop has to offer in a month or so and if it doesn't improve I'll likely switch back to an iPhone. Maybe my priorities are just in the wrong place for android.
Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Unfortunately I have no way of comparing another Z3. All the apps that I use are not installed on the demo models in shops. I have been using my wife's oneplus now for 24 hours and the difference is immense. I would say it is almost completely lag free. A lot nicer to use. Such a disappointment for me as I really wanted to like the Sony more than I do. I now also notice that I very much dislike the glass back.
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I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
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Please don't compare iOS to Android..they are both very much different platform and iOS manages memory very much efficiently and also their hardware platform is completely different from other companies.
Now About OnePlus > it uses CyanogenMod which is modded to work more efficiently than pure android or any other skinned android like SenseUI, XperiaUI or TouchWizUI.
Nexus 6 uses pure android which is way more light then other UI so you got the answer maybe why our Z3 lags...but i dont mind a little lag here and there..its quite normal its a phone after all..
My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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I would want to agree on that...my friend... Completely true...
Coming from an almost 3 year old Google nexus 5 I was sure I was going to be blown away with the S7. Unfortunately so far i'm experiencing UI LAG all over the place.
Examples:
I can be changing system settings and things will hang and not respond to the first screen touch input.
Multitasking is odd too, sometimes I'll switch back and forth between 2 apps to copy and paste and the app I was just in has to reload, how is that possible with 4GB?
Somehow in both the stock "Internet" browser and chrome, websites with semi rich contact will chug (this one in particular chugs when you scroll past any add).
The camera app is fantastic as far as feature set and quality, but switching between and side swiping into pictures to review them and back is a crippling experience.
I am hoping that Samsung will release an update to address these basic issues, I can't imagine this processor not having enough power to blow through these situations, benchmark and memory speed is off the charts.
It takes a while to swipe from gallery to camera, slower than just to click camera oddly enough.
Cant comment on the ads on xda. I block ads.
The rest of those issues I have never seen.
It's TouchWiz man, what did you expect? Even if they put 32GB RAM in it the multitasking will be bad, it is software related, not hardware.. I have a Nexus 5x and multitasking is amazing with only 2GB of RAM.
Yup I agree. Came from 5x myself and it blows the S7 out of the water in regards to multitasking.
Already rooted my S7 and now waiting 'patiently' for the first custom roms.
I know from experience with the S6 that a good (clean and debloated) custom rom + kernel + DHA changes makes all the difference.
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you could try turning off animations in the developer settings
That's one of the very first things I turn off (no animations) after first boot of phone.
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Coming from the Nexus scene I know the wiz is known to be a stumbling joke, and I guess some reviews convinced me they had fixed their act up by now. IMO the multitasking is unacceptable, and since I have the tmobile locked BL version I can only pray that Samsung fixes it in an update.
Another annoying thing I found is if you try touch input right before an animation actually finishes it ignores the touch input, as if it's designed to do that. I'm just used to a much more "fluid" experience than this.
*Just turned animations off and it seems to have solved some issues. Is it possible to block ads (modify hosts file) without root?
What I personally don't get is the very choppy multitasking performance (one tile at a time) on my S7 and definitely not as smooth as in LP (on Samsung S6, Note 5, Note 4).
At the same time I see in the new S7 review from MKBHD that multitasking is supersmooth (as it was before). See for yourself approx 2:50 in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgeM6DsV40
Several users on Dutch forum have also indicated some have choppy performance, and some have completely smooth scrolling.
All have 'no animations' set within Developers Menu.
How can it be such a huge difference per phone...?
There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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What I personally don't get is the very choppy multitasking performance (one tile at a time) on my S7 and definitely not as smooth as in LP (on Samsung S6, Note 5, Note 4).
At the same time I see in the new S7 review from MKBHD that multitasking is supersmooth (as it was before). See for yourself approx 2:50 in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgeM6DsV40
Several users on Dutch forum have also indicated some have choppy performance, and some have completely smooth scrolling.
All have 'no animations' set within Developers Menu.
How can it be such a huge difference per phone...?
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
I don't have lag on my gs7
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There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
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I'm fairly sure it'll already be using F2FS. I mean, I don't know for sure, but F2FS is Samsung's code.
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There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
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My remarks are very specifically and exclusively in regards to the weird choppy multitasking when swiping through the app tiles. This used to be buttery smooth...just flick your finger and the apps roll by continuously. Now it's one app/tiles at a time...that's what I mean by choppy.
And the wierd thing is some users have this on their phone, and others don't.
Now that I mention this...I am running 6.0.1. Could it be other users are still on 6.0? That could explain it...
Anyway...like you say...eagerly awaiting custom roms and kernels. Maybe even some specific DHA settings to improve RAM management (it's alreadyy much better than on stock S6, but still could be improved).
Hey Guys,
Read over the comments and I thought I'd chime in here. So lets get something straight here. SAMSUNG UI WILL LAG. Unfortunate but true, TouchWiz will have a lag, stutter or hiccup here and there when doing some things. I've experienced this myself (and I always look for lag, like its my job). Scrolling through FB and sometimes Instagram will have a stutter or be a bit choppy when scrolling through (normal for multiple reasons, but particular due to lack of optimization). Browser wise, a very better job but this too can have a stutter or two, perfectly normal. Again the UI can cause this. Despite these issues, I'm loving the phone and its features, easily the best the device I had. I had to root my S5 so many times and over clock it for it even to get close to smooth.
The S7 again is a great device my only gripe is battery life while in use. Standby time is pretty great but not so much when in use. Though I haven't tested my screen on time as of yet, I would bet I'd be maxing out around 3.5 hours. Hoping some firmware updates can help with this though. If your device is over heating, not acting correctly, or you feel its different from other models when you play around with them, take it back in for a new one or replacement. If my S7 had some of these issues, I would do that to ensure I'm happy and have the item I want.
I hope this helps those worrying about getting this device or who have this item but feel they're having too many issues.
Seriously, my desktop pc with gtx970 core I5 and 16Gb RAM also stutters and lags some times.. NO device with an OS will ever be lag or stutter free! My s7 edge actually does better in Samsung browser than chrome on my PC! Comon guys this is not even a problem FFS!
I have no lag. Phone is super fast.
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I'm fairly sure it'll already be using F2FS. I mean, I don't know for sure, but F2FS is Samsung's code.
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It's EXT4 for some reason. Not sure why samsung wouldn't use their own filesystem, especially when it is so much faster.
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Seriously, my desktop pc with gtx970 core I5 and 16Gb RAM also stutters and lags some times.. NO device with an OS will ever be lag or stutter free! My s7 edge actually does better in Samsung browser than chrome on my PC! Comon guys this is not even a problem FFS!
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Umm then you really should do something about that as my i7 4770K/GTX 980ti never stutters. Maybe you have faulty AHCI drivers or something? You really should check your system with a latency-tool to identify the causes of those lags.
I am experiencing the lag on a brand new s7. Turned off animations, but this has no effect on the stuttering in chrome.. I also notice a very janky transition when flipping through images on droidiris.. this worked perfectly on my old nexus 5 (non-x version)
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I don't have lag on my gs7
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me neither. i'm on the SD820 and it handles my apps very well.
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Yup I agree. Came from 5x myself and it blows the S7 out of the water in regards to multitasking.
Already rooted my S7 and now waiting 'patiently' for the first custom roms.
I know from experience with the S6 that a good (clean and debloated) custom rom + kernel + DHA changes makes all the difference.
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the 5x is very good at this for 2gb ram, i'm very impressed. i like the lowlight camera on the 5x better than s7
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me neither. i'm on the SD820 and it handles my apps very well.
the 5x is very good at this for 2gb ram, i'm very impressed. i like the lowlight camera on the 5x better than s7
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Yesterday I decided to buy the 5X again as I do miss that phone...especially the clean Android experience (plus very regular updates).
Still the S7 is a beast of a phone (and a keeper). Awaiting custom roms...
Hello,
Like a lot of people on the various Oneplus 6 forums, I too am experiencing occasional micro-stutters in the UI. I wanted to start a discussion here for people who are also experiencing this and also to share various ways to mitigate it.
On my Oneplus 3 (had it for 2 years) I always had the GPU governor set to "performance" and it was always butter smooth with decent battery life. There were never any dropped frames or micro-stutters because everytime I touched my screen the GPU would jump to max (450Mhz) before dropping back down to minimum. This ensured a speedy UI when touching and scrolling the screen.
I want to repeat this on my Oneplus 6 but I'm having difficulty in getting the phone to use the performance GPU governor. I can set it to performance but doing so doesn't ramp the GPU to max frequency when touching the screen like it did on my Oneplus 3
I'm currently on OOS 5.1.8 rooted with magisk and running ElementalX kernel.
Can anyone please test this out on their phone - set performance GPU governor and check what happens to the GPU frequency when touching the screen (use a GPU frequency monitoring app). It should jump to MAX freqency but it doesn't for me.
I'm interested to know if it does for anyone else - perhaps on a different kernel than ElementalX
have this micro stuttering, very annoying ...
damn ,just as i was about to get a op6 after next week.
what exactly is this micro stuttering? im currently using a 6p and feel somewhat outdated with the snap810.
i get occassional lags and its annoying, and also stutters.
im surprised to see the stuttering in op6, if more ppl have this i might ditch the 6 and get a 5t..
EDIT: Darn, googled oneplus stuttering and it seems the 5t is affected too ._.'
If you are experiencing shuttering while scrolling as the finger is on the screen. It's an app with accessibility access causing it. Removing the app completely fixes it
leondestiny said:
damn ,just as i was about to get a op6 after next week.
what exactly is this micro stuttering? im currently using a 6p and feel somewhat outdated with the snap810.
i get occassional lags and its annoying, and also stutters.
im surprised to see the stuttering in op6, if more ppl have this i might ditch the 6 and get a 5t..
EDIT: Darn, googled oneplus stuttering and it seems the 5t is affected too ._.'
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Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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honestly i was paranoid for a while only, i know the op6 is the phone to get for me.
i will probably get one after like 10 days..
i bet it will be like night and day difference between my 6p ..
excited to get it, which color would you recommend?
i wanted the grey version initially but i heard it can be slippery?
the black one will have more grip but is a fingerprint magnet, what about the white one.. hmm
i guess either of the 3 will be fine, will see what they have i guess.
and i think OP could fix his stutters simply by rooting and flashing some goodies.
i root my phones day1 XD
i hope dev support will be good for OP6, heard that theres that a/b thing.
and some roms called treble roms? apparently are not so stable, but that there will eventually be normal custom roms..
plus i saw nathan in the op6 section, theres flash kernel for the op6 baby..
cant go wrong with this one..
now i only need to find myself a good glass screen protector ,since the one it comes with is a plastic sp.
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Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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Mind your own business. Minor non issues, yeah sure. You obviously have no idea what op is talking about.
i too have noticed it, and i'm using franken kernel
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i too have noticed it, and i'm using franken kernel
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Something like an app is causing that. I can run through apps, scroll constantly in settings, scroll and surf on the web constantly with no stopping and I get maybe 1 frame lost every 20 seconds or so. I have like 60 apps installed.
I'm using stock , never rooted , I have never notice this stutter.
I have rooted alot of phones too, just not the op6 because I see no need to.
Maybe faulty units ?
If you want to see stutter use the s8 lol.
I noticed does drops also. But whit https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/development/kernel-franken-t3799290/ newest version it almost gone for me. Very little when it occurs.
For me those drops are gone again after a reboot, but they are always coming back.
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For me those drops are gone again after a reboot, but they are always coming back.
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Yes, I noticed that, so far almost a day and no annoying stutters, hope so to stay that way ? will report how it will stay after a night.
Driver007 said:
Yes, I noticed that, so far almost a day and no annoying stutters, hope so to stay that way ? will report how it will stay after a night.
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That's mostly when they are coming back for me, after a long time of idling. Let us know, thanks!
Fully stock phone. No microstutters, but the frames do drop from 60+ normally to about 30 on some ui interactions. Still smooth to the eye though.
I've come to the conclusion that the UI stutters and animation jank is much worse in 5.1.8 so I am downgrading to 5.1.6 until Oneplus sorts it's Oxygen OS out. There are clearly problems within OOS itself with stutters. Many others are also observing this too and those who are not, are either not bothered by it (maybe used Samsung previously so are used to it) or simply don't see it even though it is there.
The proof of this is that I have set performance governors on both big and little CPU clusters AND also set performance GPU governor (so in effect, throwing the entire resources of Oneplus 6 at the UI) and still there are dropped frames all over the UI. Hell, even my old Oneplus 3 was never nearly this bad and was buttery smooth in comparison. I am completely disappointed with this phone having been superbly impressed with the Oneplus 3. These kind of UI stutters are why I don't touch Samsung anymore and I thought I had found refuge in Oneplus phones
I'm probably going to get a Pixel 3 next time round and if I can't get a buttery smooth UI on Oneplus 6. I'm begginning to consider selling it and moving on such is my frustration and disappointment.
Come on Oneplus! you can do better than this
Edit: before anyone starts saying anything, I DON'T have xposed or any fancy mods. All I have is stock OOS with Magisk rooted. I have tried 3 different kernels on 5.1.8 - Elemental, Stock and Blu_spark. All produce these stutters/frame drops.
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I've come to the conclusion that the UI stutters and animation jank is much worse in 5.1.8 so I am downgrading to 5.1.6 until Oneplus sorts it's Oxygen OS out. There are clearly problems within OOS itself with stutters. Many others are also observing this too and those who are not, are either not bothered by it (maybe used Samsung previously so are used to it) or simply don't see it even though it is there.
The proof of this is that I have set performance governors on both big and little CPU clusters AND also set performance GPU governor (so in effect, throwing the entire resources of Oneplus 6 at the UI) and still there are dropped frames all over the UI. Hell, even my old Oneplus 3 was never nearly this bad and was buttery smooth in comparison. I am completely disappointed with this phone having been superbly impressed with the Oneplus 3. These kind of UI stutters are why I don't touch Samsung anymore and I thought I had found refuge in Oneplus phones
I'm probably going to get a Pixel 3 next time round and if I can't get a buttery smooth UI on Oneplus 6. I'm begginning to consider selling it and moving on such is my frustration and disappointment.
Come on Oneplus! you can do better than this
Edit: before anyone starts saying anything, I DON'T have xposed or any fancy mods. All I have is stock OOS with Magisk rooted. I have tried 3 different kernels on 5.1.8 - Elemental, Stock and Blu_spark. All produce these stutters/frame drops.
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Can you post the bug reports or your observations to official oneplus bug reporting platform?
This will draw their attention and issue might be solved much faster than posting it here.
https://forums.oneplus.com/feedback/
Thanks
sarus_b said:
Can you post the bug reports or your observations to official oneplus bug reporting platform?
This will draw their attention and issue might be solved much faster than posting it here.
https://forums.oneplus.com/feedback/
Thanks
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Have just submitted a bug report to Oneplus. Thanks for the link :good:
I suggest anyone else experiencing this does the same. If we all do then Oneplus may take notice.
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Have just submitted a bug report to Oneplus. Thanks for the link :good:
I suggest anyone else experiencing this does the same. If we all do then Oneplus may take notice.
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Share link so I can confirm it
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Share link so I can confirm it
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The post immediatly above mine