I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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Just a thought, but under Settings > Power Management > STAMINA mode, do you have Extended usage turned on?
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I have. But I only when have stamina mode turned on when I don't use the phone for long periods. Otherwise it is turned of.
Try turning it off and reboot your device. Normally the Z3 is working buttery smooth without any lag or stuttering. When activating extended usage the phone should display a message advising you to keep the setting turned off if it causes too much performance issues. In my experience, once you turn extended usage on, it kind of remains active in the background until you actually reboot the phone, even if you turn the setting off. I also find that the performance loss coming with the extended usage setting is out of all proportion to its power saving abilities.
Tried but that has no effect. Still way less smooth scrolling through fenix timeline than scrolling through exact same timeline on my wife's one plus. Really strange. Games are comparable but scrolling in all apps is just poor.
what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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what firmware are you using? before the latest update mine was a bit laggy, but even with extended stamina mode enabled all the time now, phone is super quick.
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23.0.1.A.5.77
Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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Tried reflashing it twice with full factory reset and still no improvement. I will say it is slightly less laggy though than it was on the previous firmware. Maybe its just i am used to IOS. But what bothers me is that my wife's Oneplus is much smoother while that has the same hardware,.
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what apps do you have installed? my z3 next to other peoples iphone 6's and s5 etc, seems lightning quick, again with extended stamina enabled. maybe you have a rogue app or an app running in the background killing your resources?
No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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No looked into that. That's not the problem.
Maybe the title of the thread is misleading. I agree the Z3 is snappier than an iPhone. That's pure speed though. What I am talking about is smoothness. Particularly when scrolling. That's when the laggyness is most noticeable
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i never really thought about it before, but maybe because i am using apex launcher? are you able to try another launcher, do you get the same thing?
do you have any dev options enabled?
I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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I use Nova Launcher. The launcher is fine. Its scrolling inside apps that is the main problem. And occasionally elsewhere in the os but going through homescreens is smooth
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ok so its the apps that cause the problem then. how about the dev menu, do you have any options in there enabled? if so which ones.
Only Verify apps over USB and USB debugging.
hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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hmm, not sure what else to suggest looking at. maybe someone else will have an idea? something is clearly not quite right though. have you tried using cpuz to see what your cpu is doing? do you get fullspeed on the cpu?
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Just checked. It seems like the CPU is working fine though there are a lot of spikes when I only have cpuz open.
I think I will probably just wait and see what lollipop has to offer in a month or so and if it doesn't improve I'll likely switch back to an iPhone. Maybe my priorities are just in the wrong place for android.
Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Have u tried using any other Z3's as a point of reference? The comparisons that I've seen btwn the OnePlus & the Z3 seem to state near identical performance re: ui smoothness & stutter free scrolling, etc.
I, for one, have no such issues with my Z3 although I may not be comparing the same apps with which u speak of? I'm using Nova Launcher & the lollipop theme.
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Unfortunately I have no way of comparing another Z3. All the apps that I use are not installed on the demo models in shops. I have been using my wife's oneplus now for 24 hours and the difference is immense. I would say it is almost completely lag free. A lot nicer to use. Such a disappointment for me as I really wanted to like the Sony more than I do. I now also notice that I very much dislike the glass back.
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I came from using an iPhone. The things I loved about iOS were the smoothness of the operating system (especially the animations and scrolling in apps) and the nice slection of apps that is available. Now I was up for a new phone last month and after serieusly considering the new iPhone 6 I decided to give Android another go. I really liked what google had done with android 5 and the new apps coming out were much more to my taste. I tried several phones in shops and my wife's One plus One. To my surprise the one plus was very smooth most of the time. Scrolling was finally almost without lag and it felt nice enough to use.
Now I decided to go for the Z3 as I loved the phone itself. As it has the same insides as the oneplus I assumed it would be just as smooth. It isn't. Its a lot more laggy and that is especially the case when scrolling in various twitter and rss apps. I annoys me to the point where I read want to ditch the phone.
I have tried several factory resets and even flashed the stock firmware (old and new) via flash tool. Whatever I do it doesn't seem to help. Why is the one plus (and the nexus 9) so much smoother than my Z3 when I use them side by side. Is there something I could try to improve this? Maybe performance will improve when we finally get Lollipop? I am at a loss.
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First thing
Please don't compare iOS to Android..they are both very much different platform and iOS manages memory very much efficiently and also their hardware platform is completely different from other companies.
Now About OnePlus > it uses CyanogenMod which is modded to work more efficiently than pure android or any other skinned android like SenseUI, XperiaUI or TouchWizUI.
Nexus 6 uses pure android which is way more light then other UI so you got the answer maybe why our Z3 lags...but i dont mind a little lag here and there..its quite normal its a phone after all..
My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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My mom has the iPhone 6, I can't say its any better than my Z3 in function but the Z3 has a much much better battery life and is as smooth as the iPhone 6. Maybe you have an errant app/s, try a factory reset is nothing works. Most people who switch to Android from iPhone seem to prefer HTC Sense UI, my dad bought the M8 for that very reason. The Z3 is pretty close to stock and almost as good as Sense in my opinion and is stutter free in use.
I don't know about CM being more efficient because some review sites like GSMArena found the colors OS version of the Oppo phone to be better performing and having slightly better battery wise. CM is less cluttered compared to OEM garbage and has more useful options though.
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I would want to agree on that...my friend... Completely true...
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Hey guys, I just received my Pipo M6 today so I thought I'd offer my experience so far. Keep in mind that I am coming from an iPad mini and my daily driver is a HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Build Quality:
TBH, I was hoping for something a little better after reading some user reviews. It's still quite good overall but there's just a few too many seams and the edges are a little rough at certain points. Nothing major but it just feels like a made and designed in China product. It doesn't bother me so much though since I won't notice it after putting it in a case.
I was glad to find that underneath the temporary screen protector which comes with all new products these days, there was another one underneath it which means you won't need to bother with putting on one yourself.
Screen:
VERY pretty. Viewing angles are good and colours really pop. Brightness level is amazing and will surely be sufficient even if you are in the dessert. In terms of resolution, you can set it to HD mode or Normal which requires a restart. I couldn't really notice any differences although I might if I had another one sitting side by side. Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
User Interface:
As you may know, you have the choice of using the standard Jelly Bean interface or the special Pipo interface which makes everything look a bit like Windows 8. I chose to go with the latter. Everything is quite smooth although perhaps not quite as flawless as my iPad mini but with Android devices, I've come to accept that.
I really like where they're going with this interface although there are some definite rough edges. It comes preloaded with 5 home screens labeled: Home, Media, Apps, Office and Web. These can not be removed. Within each, there are some widgets which corresponds to their respective headings. These widgets cannot be changed or removed. The other objects that cannot be changed or removed are the boxes ala Windows 8 which are predetermined to be either editable shortcuts or folders. I find this a bit annoying because sometimes I don't need so many folders and would prefer to just launch an app immediately when I tap it. You can add more homescreens and name them how you like but you can't change their colour or the types of boxes they contain. Overall, it all looks very nice but needs to be more customisable.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to install any games yet but so far the "feel" of the device seems very solid. I do have a problem when trying to install N.O.V.A. 3, i can't even find it in the Google Play Store. After finding it through Google, it says that my device cannot support it. I don't get it. My One X can install this game and it's far below the specs of the M6. If anyone can let me know why this is, I can install it and let you know how it performs.
Battery Life:
When I opened the box, it was already switched on and showed that it had been running on battery for about 28 hours (so it was probably opened by customs since it was posted out a week ago). Since then I've had the screen almost constantly on doing various things for the last 5 hours and it still has 40% juice left. Pretty good then!
Conclusion:
Overall, I'm quite happy. It has some small niggles but then it was pretty cheap. For the people who are worried that the RK3188 can't handle a retina display, I think you can relax. Everything runs smoothly enough. Plus, if you really prefer a lower resolution, you can change it in the settings to conserve battery life and increase performance. It beats having an M7, M8 or M9 purely because they have much smaller batteries. The 2x5000 mAh battery in the M6 was designed for the retina screen so if you use the normal resolution, it would wipe the competition clean.
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Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
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Ahh i see, that makes sense. I never owned a device without physical or capacitive buttons so it didn't occur to me.
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Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
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Yeah I think it's also not bad. I wouldn't really call them gaps, but the seam that runs around the edge of the device definitely doesn't look consistent on my machine; some parts look a tiny fraction wider than the rest. Maybe you had better luck. bBy the way, do you have any idea why the Google Play Store won't let me download N.O.V.A. 3? I'm sure the specs are enough since even my HTC One X running a Tegra 3 can download it. Only thing I can think off is that the internal storage doesn't have enough space but then shouldn't it download into the NAND Flash? I have plenty of space there.
UPDATE: Been spending some more time with it. I am liking it less now that it's frozen up twice (both times requiring a hard reset by sticking a little needle in the small hole next to the back camera - didn't lose anything though). Also, I have a few apps that force the tablet into a vertical orientation and every time, they would force it into an upside down position (where the power button would be on the bottom as well as the front camera). I guess this indicates that the tablet's natural position is contrary to its physical design. I find this quite annoying to be honest and should hopefully be easily fixable with a firmware update. I hope they get on it! God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
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I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
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On mine which is on the SDK2 firmware - there is a big difference with chrome and the stock browsers - chrome is massively laggy, freezes, stutters and is generally rubbish. Stock browser is fast and smooth. The only issue I have is not being able to scroll down on translated pages (htcmania) but change of orientation solves that..
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
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I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
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regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
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Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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Alright, my M6 froze again today whilst using Pulse so I think I've had enough. I'm gonna try to flash it with a rom. A couple of questions first. How can I check which SDK I'm on? It says my Kernel version is 3.0.36+ from June 25th. Does that mean I'm on SDK2.0 already since it's the latest?
Anyways, I don't wanna bother anyone here with writing out a full instructional so can someone please just confirm that all I need to do is follow this guide: http://www.freak-tab.de/rrileypm/First Time User Guide_pr0_rev5.pdf Of course, instead of using the RileyROM 1.2, I will use the M6 4.2.2 #20 from http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 . Also, why are there two files with the same name there? One uploaded on the 13th and one on the 15th of July? Thanks alot guys!
i already posted this to other threads
i bought my pipo m6 a week ago.. so far so bad!.. first off, i got a dirt INSIDE the screen, i was forced to remove the screen guard to see if its not a dirt in between the screen and the screen guard. unfortunately its inside the screen so there's no way of removing it without opening the whole system.. 2nd, im experiencing lags and forced close, QUAD CORE? 2GB RAM? what the!! my friends dual core phone is much better! mine doesnt even have to many apps yet. 3rd, i tried to play 1080 movies, mp4, it lags and crashes at me. aside from all this disappointing experience PIPO luncher form time to time force closes. another worse experience is that i experience FREEZE UP. the whole system froze while browsing facebook, for 20 minutes, all hardware buttons, touchscreen are not responding. i was forced to reset it via the little whole at the back of the device....i already updated to the 6/26 firmware release... but still getting the same issues. battery was good YES. but performance was disappointing. NOT TO MENTION the other users who comment about the SPEAKER! GOD! speaker sucks! based on a video i watched it was loud! but my SONY NEO V is way better! i hope that there is a FIRMWARE FIX to all this! except ofcourse about the screen dirt.. i was expecting to much about the new processor (QUAD CORE, better the DUAL CORE, RIGHT???), the ram but was getting to much frustration. the only GREAT thing about this device is the RETINA SCREEN, not including the DIRT of course, the the BATTERY!
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i already posted this to other threads
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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i hope so too. thanks
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i hope so too. thanks
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I just flashed the RileyROM 1.2. They were right, it really was very easy. I'm in the process of restoring everything. I'll report back with my impressions on the performance later.
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
I've been running stock today and dev preview for a few weeks. Can't say I've noticed any lag.
Have you tried scrolling in the Google Calendar 5.0 ( schedule mode )
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Have you tried scrolling in the Google Calendar 5.0 ( schedule mode )
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It's not Lollipop. Everything is smooth for me. Even schedule mode in calendar.
Not sure what you are seeing. But its like butter for me. Best update ever. I doubt I'll hardly mod it. At all.
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When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
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Odd, my n5 is very smooth with lollipop
This is really curious , because my experience is really bad with it, and I don't know if the problem is hardware based ..
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This is really curious , because my experience is really bad with it, and I don't know if the problem is hardware based ..
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If it makes you feel any better, I too notice the lag in Caldender. Just scroll quickly. It has slight chop in the animations. Besides that, and a few other small things it's fairly smooth.
snappycg1996 said:
If it makes you feel any better, I too notice the lag in Caldender. Just scroll quickly. It has slight chop in the animations. Besides that, and a few other small things it's fairly smooth.
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It's not unusable or something like that, but it bothers me , because the animations are not so heavy..and it should run kinda lagless like kitkat.
I really hope google will update the apps and make them smoother.
Lag in calendar, when you scorl up or down. Huge lag, when i play youtube music in backround (Bad App, or Lolipop? I think bad app). Lag is and will be there, if you want to see it. :silly:
Lag everywhere. I flashed 4.4 kitkat and it works perfectly fine. not the same with lollipop wich lags in every bit of the system when it's used more than 10 minutes. really disappointed
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Lag everywhere. I flashed 4.4 kitkat and it works perfectly fine. not the same with lollipop wich lags in every bit of the system when it's used more than 10 minutes. really disappointed
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Then something went wrong with your install. Otherwise, everyone would be experiencing this.
it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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I tried every method, factory images install and manual install, all multiple times.
It's one of google's most unpolished updates. No dedicated gallery app, no face unlock, no new sounds, sluggish google apps etc. I am a big google fan , but I find my self disappointed.
I'm waiting for app updates and wishing for the best.
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it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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Wait? Charging? Only charging?
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it's just super weird. it has moments when it works like a champ, but if my battery is lower than 10% and I'm plugged, everything goes ludicrous.
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Does the status bar and nav bar change colors? I don't know if the battery saver mode activates at 10% automatically since I never let my phone get that low. But if it does, it disable all animations and does become less fluid.
biraustefan said:
When I bought my Nexus 5 6 months ago, everything went buttery smooth. Google apps , third party apps, everything. Changing things to ART brought even a better improvement in performance. But after the Google apps recieved material design face-lifts , every thing ran ... sluggish and quite laggy. Moving between app sections was stuttering , scrolling aswell , and every "material design " animation lagged. I truly hope that this will change with the 5.0 update. But my God, I think things started to run worse, especially when I have low battery. No performance improvment , no nothing.
Am I the only one facing this problem? I don't find it normal for the Nexus 5 to act like that. It's just a year old, and when the Nexus 4 got android 4.4.4, it ran like a champ! What happen with the " you can run android now on 512 mb ram ", or the promised "60 FPS animations" ?
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You are not alone.
Animations and scrolling are in fact slower in Android 5.0 than in 4.4.4 by a large margin. You must be blind not to notice it.
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Does the status bar and nav bar change colors? I don't know if the battery saver mode activates at 10% automatically since I never let my phone get that low. But if it does, it disable all animations and does become less fluid.
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no, I know that when battery reaches 10% or 15% it slows down the processing power and eliminates animations.
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Wait? Charging? Only charging?
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yes, it usually goes "wild" when I have low battery and it's charging, and that means animation lag, 1-2 seconds for the keyboard to open etc. in rest..well it's acceptable, it's not , from my experience , as smooth as kitkat, but it's usable and ok.
Haven't had any lagging issues, in fact this runs smoother then kitkat did, quite happy with the upgrade to be honest. There is always going to be bugs to be worked out, wouldnt be surprised if we see 5.x.x within the next 2 months.
there are 2 camps. the one who say it work ok and the opposite.
I don't think I have flashed it wrong.
It reminds me of the moto 360 problem. Same as now, some said it's choppy, some said that it's fluid and they had no problem
Anyone who says Android 5.0 not laggy is lying, sorry.
Animations must be instant from a perspective of allowing further instant interaction. Let me explain: when something is being animated the resulting screen must allow interaction as soon as you initiate the change in user interface. Right now in Android 5.0, animations are done such a way, you cannot do anything until animation has completed its transformation - and that's called a lag, a perceived delay in user interaction.
Hopefully Google engineers visit these forums and this problem is going to be fixed in future Android 5 releases.
I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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Go to about phone option in settings and radio the build number 5-6 times.
Now go to developer options, scroll down and turn off the window transition animation scale and animator duration.
Hop e this helps...
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Hello, as I did write, I did try to turn them off, but animations is essential, it is is important for a device to be fun to work with, turning them off looks the system looks very boring and non inspiring. Chaning the duration scale to 0.5x did help very slightly....is still very slow.. but I can understand if people getting used to the slowness but side by side with a different device it is very slow.. and the slow animations is to blame.. and every app use animations.
It seem like this, that until the app is loaded in the memory it is slow, the transition to open apps is very slow..
but the way you are using a smartphone is you close and open apps constantly, cause you have a lot of different messaging apps for instance you switch between them constantly.
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
mm79k said:
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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Same I don't experience micro lags and I also have 16Gb ROM version..
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So you can actually say you have a 60 FPS all the time ?
there is only 60 fps when you are at home screen but when opening and switching to app it is far below 60 fps..
I hope they get it fixed...
When the new update come I will do a factory reset also..I know that sometimes it can help..
Does any one know when we can expect a new update for European market ?
I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
blackinfinity said:
I can start of I am coming from an LG G2, as we know G2 despite being little bit older is still today one of the fastest devices out there, with none microlag and very very fast animations.
So you can imagine the contrast was so big going from G2 to Mate 7. I did read reviews before buying this device that it was very fast and not laggy at alll..fast GUI.. CPU performance seemed also satisfied. I knew before I bought this device that the GPU performance and Camera was the weaker point, but especially the GPU. But I thought damn it is 2014, so it better be fast... the experience I have after been using Mate 7 for about a few days that the it is anything but fast and non laggy, I think the Mate 7 have constant microlag, the microlag is a big problem, but the biggest problem for me is the painfully slow animations!!!, all the animations especially when switching between apps, such as kik, skype, whatsapp, outlook, these animations are so painfully slow that is not acceptable! I am not lying but the G2 felt twice as fast. In current experience I feel like I have bought the wrong device, but Like the screen it looks better then expected (JDI made) I also like the screen ratio.
But the fact that the deceive is to slow make me very unproductive, and makes me think almost twice before switching and opening new apps.. with My G2 I did not have that in my mind at all I just pushed at all buttons without thinking about it and evertyhing the go very fast and smooth and fast transitions
My questions.
1. The painfully slow animations and microlag, is this realistically fixable with software ? or is the very weak GPU chip
to blame for this ?
2. What can I do to speed up animations and reduce the constant microlag and make drastic performance boost ? My philosophy is if your GPU can't handle all the animations then do not have them to begin with, but the truth is the phone looks like **** without them, I did actually turn them off in developer options but it looks so boring that it is hard to live with it.. the standard setting is 1x I leave at the and putting my hopes in future software updates.
3. Any news regarding Lollipop ?
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why u didnt go for g3?
The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
Simona Simmy said:
why u didnt go for g3?
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Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
vince_junior said:
The ui is fluid and smooth, but I confirm the slow animations.
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yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
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Cause I do not like Samsung, they are a consecrative company when it comes to smartphones, I do not like physical home button. I think next year they will make radical changes I hope..
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am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
Simona Simmy said:
am not talking samsung yes samsung is crap see my sig
I was talking bout G3 so LG G3
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Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
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Besides the form factor and screen to body ratio G3 is simply not a good phone, especially the screen is terrible and very dim, I would not be able to live with that since I want a more bright display. With Mate 7 I can use Full brightness all day if i need, because it have a larger battery then normal.
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Oh yeah .. I sold Honor 6 and purchased alpha samsung .. jesus christ when i turned phone and seen that crap display..
I wanted smash phone onto wall !! But I decided not to do it and resell it !
Now I have Mate 7 with PROPER bright screen ..
I was sad that I sold Honor 6 .. but I found Mate 7 for £300 pounds so bought it ..
Honor 6 , Ascend P7 and Mate 7 BEST screens on market !!
blackinfinity said:
yes... especially the multitasking function is slow..takes way too long time before all the apps are presented to the screen which make the whole function slow to use.
But also animations and transisitations in general are slow, they are not 60 fps... and there is such a big difference between 60 fps and slower, it as another experience, where you do not need to think twice before opening an app or using the phone cause everything is so fast that you do not need to think twice about things..
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Correct. Animations is below 60 fps.
mm79k said:
I have the animations turned on and they are as fast as top-end devices in the market. And I am experiencing no lag at all. I have the 2GB version
This is coming from a previous owner of the LG G2 and HTC One M7 & M8
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Me too. No lag here.
@blackinfinity
Try check some dodgy app which runs and causing slow down.. or reset/erase whole phone and start again .. It is worth..
I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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I am also disappointed after a few hours with the Mate 7 with 16GB. Using especially Chrome and there for example theverge.com the scrolling through the Website is often stuck, the overall performance is not so great I think.
I am using Yahoo Aviate as a Launcher, maybe this makes a difference? But using my 2013 Moto X with the same Setup and Apps is not so disappointing.
Tuesday I'll compare with the Nexus 6 and then decide which device will stay ...
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It was the same on mine, and in fact, it was laspass app !
Removing this app and my phone is smooth again. theverge.com is a good test.
Hope it helps.
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I think you may already try this but did you go to Setting>Power Saving> change from Smart to Normal (I need high performance)
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This should work. other phones has their performance settings on default high, mate 7 use power saving mode as default.
Coming from an almost 3 year old Google nexus 5 I was sure I was going to be blown away with the S7. Unfortunately so far i'm experiencing UI LAG all over the place.
Examples:
I can be changing system settings and things will hang and not respond to the first screen touch input.
Multitasking is odd too, sometimes I'll switch back and forth between 2 apps to copy and paste and the app I was just in has to reload, how is that possible with 4GB?
Somehow in both the stock "Internet" browser and chrome, websites with semi rich contact will chug (this one in particular chugs when you scroll past any add).
The camera app is fantastic as far as feature set and quality, but switching between and side swiping into pictures to review them and back is a crippling experience.
I am hoping that Samsung will release an update to address these basic issues, I can't imagine this processor not having enough power to blow through these situations, benchmark and memory speed is off the charts.
It takes a while to swipe from gallery to camera, slower than just to click camera oddly enough.
Cant comment on the ads on xda. I block ads.
The rest of those issues I have never seen.
It's TouchWiz man, what did you expect? Even if they put 32GB RAM in it the multitasking will be bad, it is software related, not hardware.. I have a Nexus 5x and multitasking is amazing with only 2GB of RAM.
Yup I agree. Came from 5x myself and it blows the S7 out of the water in regards to multitasking.
Already rooted my S7 and now waiting 'patiently' for the first custom roms.
I know from experience with the S6 that a good (clean and debloated) custom rom + kernel + DHA changes makes all the difference.
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you could try turning off animations in the developer settings
That's one of the very first things I turn off (no animations) after first boot of phone.
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Coming from the Nexus scene I know the wiz is known to be a stumbling joke, and I guess some reviews convinced me they had fixed their act up by now. IMO the multitasking is unacceptable, and since I have the tmobile locked BL version I can only pray that Samsung fixes it in an update.
Another annoying thing I found is if you try touch input right before an animation actually finishes it ignores the touch input, as if it's designed to do that. I'm just used to a much more "fluid" experience than this.
*Just turned animations off and it seems to have solved some issues. Is it possible to block ads (modify hosts file) without root?
What I personally don't get is the very choppy multitasking performance (one tile at a time) on my S7 and definitely not as smooth as in LP (on Samsung S6, Note 5, Note 4).
At the same time I see in the new S7 review from MKBHD that multitasking is supersmooth (as it was before). See for yourself approx 2:50 in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgeM6DsV40
Several users on Dutch forum have also indicated some have choppy performance, and some have completely smooth scrolling.
All have 'no animations' set within Developers Menu.
How can it be such a huge difference per phone...?
There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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What I personally don't get is the very choppy multitasking performance (one tile at a time) on my S7 and definitely not as smooth as in LP (on Samsung S6, Note 5, Note 4).
At the same time I see in the new S7 review from MKBHD that multitasking is supersmooth (as it was before). See for yourself approx 2:50 in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgeM6DsV40
Several users on Dutch forum have also indicated some have choppy performance, and some have completely smooth scrolling.
All have 'no animations' set within Developers Menu.
How can it be such a huge difference per phone...?
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
I don't have lag on my gs7
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There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
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I'm fairly sure it'll already be using F2FS. I mean, I don't know for sure, but F2FS is Samsung's code.
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There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
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My remarks are very specifically and exclusively in regards to the weird choppy multitasking when swiping through the app tiles. This used to be buttery smooth...just flick your finger and the apps roll by continuously. Now it's one app/tiles at a time...that's what I mean by choppy.
And the wierd thing is some users have this on their phone, and others don't.
Now that I mention this...I am running 6.0.1. Could it be other users are still on 6.0? That could explain it...
Anyway...like you say...eagerly awaiting custom roms and kernels. Maybe even some specific DHA settings to improve RAM management (it's alreadyy much better than on stock S6, but still could be improved).
Hey Guys,
Read over the comments and I thought I'd chime in here. So lets get something straight here. SAMSUNG UI WILL LAG. Unfortunate but true, TouchWiz will have a lag, stutter or hiccup here and there when doing some things. I've experienced this myself (and I always look for lag, like its my job). Scrolling through FB and sometimes Instagram will have a stutter or be a bit choppy when scrolling through (normal for multiple reasons, but particular due to lack of optimization). Browser wise, a very better job but this too can have a stutter or two, perfectly normal. Again the UI can cause this. Despite these issues, I'm loving the phone and its features, easily the best the device I had. I had to root my S5 so many times and over clock it for it even to get close to smooth.
The S7 again is a great device my only gripe is battery life while in use. Standby time is pretty great but not so much when in use. Though I haven't tested my screen on time as of yet, I would bet I'd be maxing out around 3.5 hours. Hoping some firmware updates can help with this though. If your device is over heating, not acting correctly, or you feel its different from other models when you play around with them, take it back in for a new one or replacement. If my S7 had some of these issues, I would do that to ensure I'm happy and have the item I want.
I hope this helps those worrying about getting this device or who have this item but feel they're having too many issues.
Seriously, my desktop pc with gtx970 core I5 and 16Gb RAM also stutters and lags some times.. NO device with an OS will ever be lag or stutter free! My s7 edge actually does better in Samsung browser than chrome on my PC! Comon guys this is not even a problem FFS!
I have no lag. Phone is super fast.
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I'm fairly sure it'll already be using F2FS. I mean, I don't know for sure, but F2FS is Samsung's code.
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It's EXT4 for some reason. Not sure why samsung wouldn't use their own filesystem, especially when it is so much faster.
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Seriously, my desktop pc with gtx970 core I5 and 16Gb RAM also stutters and lags some times.. NO device with an OS will ever be lag or stutter free! My s7 edge actually does better in Samsung browser than chrome on my PC! Comon guys this is not even a problem FFS!
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Umm then you really should do something about that as my i7 4770K/GTX 980ti never stutters. Maybe you have faulty AHCI drivers or something? You really should check your system with a latency-tool to identify the causes of those lags.
I am experiencing the lag on a brand new s7. Turned off animations, but this has no effect on the stuttering in chrome.. I also notice a very janky transition when flipping through images on droidiris.. this worked perfectly on my old nexus 5 (non-x version)
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I don't have lag on my gs7
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me neither. i'm on the SD820 and it handles my apps very well.
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Yup I agree. Came from 5x myself and it blows the S7 out of the water in regards to multitasking.
Already rooted my S7 and now waiting 'patiently' for the first custom roms.
I know from experience with the S6 that a good (clean and debloated) custom rom + kernel + DHA changes makes all the difference.
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the 5x is very good at this for 2gb ram, i'm very impressed. i like the lowlight camera on the 5x better than s7
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me neither. i'm on the SD820 and it handles my apps very well.
the 5x is very good at this for 2gb ram, i'm very impressed. i like the lowlight camera on the 5x better than s7
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Yesterday I decided to buy the 5X again as I do miss that phone...especially the clean Android experience (plus very regular updates).
Still the S7 is a beast of a phone (and a keeper). Awaiting custom roms...
That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
Thank you the attentive answer, it not sounds too good . Not can be at a good and still cheap too
What is your proposal for the Galaxy A73 have you any experience this phone for regarding this topic?
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Thank you these usefull advise. i will try it asap and will feedback that what is the result.
This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
Also Facebook is a big resource hog. Even on an iPhone 13 it can stutter occasionally or even freezes specially in marketplace and makes the phone run hot. If you don't mind using the mobile version I would highly recommend using that instead the app.
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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thank you the usefull and detail of rich description...
It is laggy because Samsung picked the weaker hardware for this phone (even though it sells for mid range price, there is no SD778 or Exynos 1080 or Dimensity 1200). As others said you could disable things and only use 60Hz screen. But if you haven't bought it yet you can buy the A52s which will be smoother.
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This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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I'm confused. I don't have Facebook on my A53 or ADB wasn't needed if it was originally (and not system app). Did you grab a carrier one? That would explain it to me. Not seeing lag on my unlocked A53.
If you grabbed an unlocked one then I don't know why you'd have lag unless it had a physical issue or you use something I don't use that causes it.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Enable developer options and disable all animations should fix this without the need for installing a 3rd party launcher or other software.
DRSdroid said:
Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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If its only the camera from press to saved then the April update should mostly if not fully solve that. You have the April update yet or not?
For me it seems to be under a second after April update. Pre-April it was more like 3-5 seconds.
Not really something I would have cared that much about either way lol. Just have to get used to it.
I've had this phone almost a week now.. I have SwiftKey as my kb...
Can't say I've noticed any type of lag on this device... 120hz, dark mode background services running, wifi calling on you name it.
What are y'all even all the reviewers doing to experience lag??
Kind of would like to know lol
V0latyle said:
Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
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A53 is not a "Budget" device. It is mid level. Samsung's budget devices are the A1#, A2# and A3# phones.