Hey guys, I just received my Pipo M6 today so I thought I'd offer my experience so far. Keep in mind that I am coming from an iPad mini and my daily driver is a HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Build Quality:
TBH, I was hoping for something a little better after reading some user reviews. It's still quite good overall but there's just a few too many seams and the edges are a little rough at certain points. Nothing major but it just feels like a made and designed in China product. It doesn't bother me so much though since I won't notice it after putting it in a case.
I was glad to find that underneath the temporary screen protector which comes with all new products these days, there was another one underneath it which means you won't need to bother with putting on one yourself.
Screen:
VERY pretty. Viewing angles are good and colours really pop. Brightness level is amazing and will surely be sufficient even if you are in the dessert. In terms of resolution, you can set it to HD mode or Normal which requires a restart. I couldn't really notice any differences although I might if I had another one sitting side by side. Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
User Interface:
As you may know, you have the choice of using the standard Jelly Bean interface or the special Pipo interface which makes everything look a bit like Windows 8. I chose to go with the latter. Everything is quite smooth although perhaps not quite as flawless as my iPad mini but with Android devices, I've come to accept that.
I really like where they're going with this interface although there are some definite rough edges. It comes preloaded with 5 home screens labeled: Home, Media, Apps, Office and Web. These can not be removed. Within each, there are some widgets which corresponds to their respective headings. These widgets cannot be changed or removed. The other objects that cannot be changed or removed are the boxes ala Windows 8 which are predetermined to be either editable shortcuts or folders. I find this a bit annoying because sometimes I don't need so many folders and would prefer to just launch an app immediately when I tap it. You can add more homescreens and name them how you like but you can't change their colour or the types of boxes they contain. Overall, it all looks very nice but needs to be more customisable.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to install any games yet but so far the "feel" of the device seems very solid. I do have a problem when trying to install N.O.V.A. 3, i can't even find it in the Google Play Store. After finding it through Google, it says that my device cannot support it. I don't get it. My One X can install this game and it's far below the specs of the M6. If anyone can let me know why this is, I can install it and let you know how it performs.
Battery Life:
When I opened the box, it was already switched on and showed that it had been running on battery for about 28 hours (so it was probably opened by customs since it was posted out a week ago). Since then I've had the screen almost constantly on doing various things for the last 5 hours and it still has 40% juice left. Pretty good then!
Conclusion:
Overall, I'm quite happy. It has some small niggles but then it was pretty cheap. For the people who are worried that the RK3188 can't handle a retina display, I think you can relax. Everything runs smoothly enough. Plus, if you really prefer a lower resolution, you can change it in the settings to conserve battery life and increase performance. It beats having an M7, M8 or M9 purely because they have much smaller batteries. The 2x5000 mAh battery in the M6 was designed for the retina screen so if you use the normal resolution, it would wipe the competition clean.
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Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
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pulsar124 said:
This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
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Ahh i see, that makes sense. I never owned a device without physical or capacitive buttons so it didn't occur to me.
andbroe said:
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
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Yeah I think it's also not bad. I wouldn't really call them gaps, but the seam that runs around the edge of the device definitely doesn't look consistent on my machine; some parts look a tiny fraction wider than the rest. Maybe you had better luck. bBy the way, do you have any idea why the Google Play Store won't let me download N.O.V.A. 3? I'm sure the specs are enough since even my HTC One X running a Tegra 3 can download it. Only thing I can think off is that the internal storage doesn't have enough space but then shouldn't it download into the NAND Flash? I have plenty of space there.
UPDATE: Been spending some more time with it. I am liking it less now that it's frozen up twice (both times requiring a hard reset by sticking a little needle in the small hole next to the back camera - didn't lose anything though). Also, I have a few apps that force the tablet into a vertical orientation and every time, they would force it into an upside down position (where the power button would be on the bottom as well as the front camera). I guess this indicates that the tablet's natural position is contrary to its physical design. I find this quite annoying to be honest and should hopefully be easily fixable with a firmware update. I hope they get on it! God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
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On mine which is on the SDK2 firmware - there is a big difference with chrome and the stock browsers - chrome is massively laggy, freezes, stutters and is generally rubbish. Stock browser is fast and smooth. The only issue I have is not being able to scroll down on translated pages (htcmania) but change of orientation solves that..
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
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I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
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regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
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Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
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5teve said:
No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve
5teve said:
Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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Alright, my M6 froze again today whilst using Pulse so I think I've had enough. I'm gonna try to flash it with a rom. A couple of questions first. How can I check which SDK I'm on? It says my Kernel version is 3.0.36+ from June 25th. Does that mean I'm on SDK2.0 already since it's the latest?
Anyways, I don't wanna bother anyone here with writing out a full instructional so can someone please just confirm that all I need to do is follow this guide: http://www.freak-tab.de/rrileypm/First Time User Guide_pr0_rev5.pdf Of course, instead of using the RileyROM 1.2, I will use the M6 4.2.2 #20 from http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 . Also, why are there two files with the same name there? One uploaded on the 13th and one on the 15th of July? Thanks alot guys!
i already posted this to other threads
i bought my pipo m6 a week ago.. so far so bad!.. first off, i got a dirt INSIDE the screen, i was forced to remove the screen guard to see if its not a dirt in between the screen and the screen guard. unfortunately its inside the screen so there's no way of removing it without opening the whole system.. 2nd, im experiencing lags and forced close, QUAD CORE? 2GB RAM? what the!! my friends dual core phone is much better! mine doesnt even have to many apps yet. 3rd, i tried to play 1080 movies, mp4, it lags and crashes at me. aside from all this disappointing experience PIPO luncher form time to time force closes. another worse experience is that i experience FREEZE UP. the whole system froze while browsing facebook, for 20 minutes, all hardware buttons, touchscreen are not responding. i was forced to reset it via the little whole at the back of the device....i already updated to the 6/26 firmware release... but still getting the same issues. battery was good YES. but performance was disappointing. NOT TO MENTION the other users who comment about the SPEAKER! GOD! speaker sucks! based on a video i watched it was loud! but my SONY NEO V is way better! i hope that there is a FIRMWARE FIX to all this! except ofcourse about the screen dirt.. i was expecting to much about the new processor (QUAD CORE, better the DUAL CORE, RIGHT???), the ram but was getting to much frustration. the only GREAT thing about this device is the RETINA SCREEN, not including the DIRT of course, the the BATTERY!
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i already posted this to other threads
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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i hope so too. thanks
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i hope so too. thanks
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I just flashed the RileyROM 1.2. They were right, it really was very easy. I'm in the process of restoring everything. I'll report back with my impressions on the performance later.
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Received mine this morning, and immediately set the customizing my Moto X pure.
The first thing I noticed, is an ease of function, and a streamlined path to every app, and back with an eye on multiple functions, and speed.
I don't use anything stock for sounds, icons, or wallpaper, and installing all three of these, took me less than 5 min.
my only concern, is that the device appears to be running a little bit hot in my hand this could be due to the fact that I'm transferring data using the USB cable, while I use the phone, I don't know.
The phone is exceedingly fast and while it may be called a Phablet by some, and has a very large screen, and in the hand it truly does not feel much larger than my old Samsung galaxy S3. I'd say all in all, this may be the best phone I've ever had, especially for the price, and was well worth the wait.
I am now delving into some of the Moto world voice commands and such, which is the only unexplored frontier in android for me.
Very happy with this device.
P
papamalo said:
Received mine this morning, and immediately set the customizing my Moto X pure.
The first thing I noticed, is an ease of function, and a streamlined path to every app, and back with an eye on multiple functions, and speed.
I don't use anything stock for sounds, icons, or wallpaper, and installing all three of these, took me less than 5 min.
my only concern, is that the device appears to be running a little bit hot in my hand this could be due to the fact that I'm transferring data using the USB cable, while I use the phone, I don't know.
The phone is exceedingly fast and while it may be called a Phablet by some, and has a very large screen, and in the hand it truly does not feel much larger than my old Samsung galaxy S3. I'd say all in all, this may be the best phone I've ever had, especially for the price, and was well worth the wait.
I am now delving into some of the Moto world voice commands and such, which is the only unexplored frontier in android for me.
Very happy with this device.
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I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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that's good news!
Hey you wouldn't happen to be using nova launcher by any chance, would you?
I can't seem to make the three dots, of the dock icon, either this appear or go transparent.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
papamalo said:
that's good news!
Hey you wouldn't happen to be using nova launcher by any chance, would you?
I can't seem to make the three dots, of the dock icon, either this appear or go transparent.
Any ideas?
Thanks again
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I've used it when I first set up the phone but I didn't mess around with that setting so I'm not much help there.
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I've used it when I first set up the phone but I didn't mess around with that setting so I'm not much help there.
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Do you mean the "Page Indicator" or the "Dock Indicator"? One let's you know which "homescreen" you are on, and the other lets you know which "dock page" you are on.
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Do you mean the "Page Indicator" or the "Dock Indicator"? One let's you know which "homescreen" you are on, and the other lets you know which "dock page" you are on.
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Quoted the wrong guy...ask @papamalo
I've felt the same way about my new MotoX. I had a Galaxy S4, transition was smooth and fast
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I wouldn't worry about the heat...I'm pretty sure about everyone on here thought it was warm the first day. Setting it up, updating apps and transferring data will do that to any phone. The battery will settle in and you'll be good to go.
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This device runs hot and not a case of settling down For whatever reason the 418 gpu runs hot and drains the battery with any app that tries to draw 1440p and math is involved. If the app scales graphics down, it runs normal. Examples of apps that can run the device hot are VR, Maps and a game example is Payback 2. VR apps in particular bake this device and should be avoided beyond a few minutes use.
The GPU needs to be better managed in the governor settings in firmware.
Thought I'd make an owners thread where we can discuss about the phone, what we've installed, what rom, themes and customisations we're using etc.
Have to say quite impressive build, thought it was metal but the black is a dark navy blue
Was installing a few apps just generally using it and noticed the phone heating with light usage, anyone notice that?
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Have to say quite impressive build, thought it was metal but the black is a dark navy blue
Was installing a few apps just generally using it and noticed the phone heating with light usage, anyone notice that?
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No heating here...maybe its because i had a Mi4i before and that phone was heating. Really. After 2 minutes of use it was over 50°C and got throttled. I have never seen my Mi4c going over 40°C. Sometimes it gets "handwarm" i would say, but heating is definately the wrong word. I'm using 5.10.22 from xiaomi.eu.
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No heating here...maybe its because i had a Mi4i before and that phone was heating. Really. After 2 minutes of use it was over 50°C and got throttled. I have never seen my Mi4c going over 40°C. Sometimes it gets "handwarm" i would say, but heating is definately the wrong word. I'm using 5.10.22 from xiaomi.eu.
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Can confirm my 4c is absolutely fine with no heating as another former 4i owner. That phone would grind to a halt due to overheating despite using optimised kernels and through standard app usage (no gaming, taking videos, etc at all).
How are you lot measuring temps? I'm gonna flash latest build now and maybe cm later
We should have a whatsapp group for if we run into problems or anything!
@wingsfortheirsmiles
We know what heating is
Never had such a poor performing phone like the Mi4i.
Mi4c is perfect
Hmm still noticing heat in latest update
Does anyone have a miui cd folder mount when connecting to the PC?
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Hmm still noticing heat in latest update
Does anyone have a miui cd folder mount when connecting to the PC?
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What?
And regarding your other question, i use kernel adiutor to look after the temps at the Moment its at 28°C.
Maybe they sent you a Mi4i
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Hmm still noticing heat in latest update
Does anyone have a miui cd folder mount when connecting to the PC?
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Yeah, I had this when still on MIUI but it should show up as storage (as normal) as well
edit: @rob rich indeed, the 4i is even worse than other SD615 phones, maybe due to the compact form factor?
Anyway I'm still really enjoying CM apart from being unable to transfer data through USB. Must be something to do with my PC though as no one else seems to have this issue.
Definately Mi 4c though it doesnt have their remote app but I installed one from play store and its working good.
Did anyone get a 3 pin plug convertor? I got a 2 pin and one of the pins in bent. Also does it come with the micro usb adapter?
Im gonna try the smiui build then cm
No microUSB Adapter for me
Is the back camera flush fit to on the back of the phone? If I run my finger down from the top I can feel the 'rough' edge but its smooth from the bottom. What I'm saying is it slightly sticks out at the top
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Is the back camera flush fit to on the back of the phone? If I run my finger down from the top I can feel the 'rough' edge but its smooth from the bottom. What I'm saying is it slightly sticks out at the top
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Yes, thats normal
moved to Mi4c and it seems that WSM is not working anymore...
is there any way i can remove the text under the icons on stock launcher of MIUI ?
i was originally gunning for new nexus and walked right away after i saw the price. on my 2nd day of using mi4c, and happy with it. its gonna take some time getting used to miui, not having app drawer. but overall, i am happy and most likely going to root this phone soon and get rid of these useless chinese app(almost all don't work in Korea).
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i was originally gunning for new nexus and walked right away after i saw the price. on my 2nd day of using mi4c, and happy with it. its gonna take some time getting used to miui, not having app drawer. but overall, i am happy and most likely going to root this phone soon and get rid of these useless chinese app(almost all don't work in Korea).
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You could install something like Holo Launcher and have your old app drawer back.
@evank418, go to Android Development subforum and enjoy the CM-Mokee port!
I've been running it the last three days and it works smooth as silk, with only one bug that is the torch not working.
I received my Mi4C today and have to say it's a slick little phone, nice and thin, smooth operation and great screen. MIUI however is awful, I would like to change it. I advised evank418 above to install Holo Launcher and I did the same myself but it keeps reverting back to MIUI when I press the home button, which is a bit annoying.
Would anyone here know a way around it?
Played around with it a little bit longer and after flashing xiaomi.eu_multi_libra_5.10.8_v7-5.1 I was asked what launcher I wanted after pressing the home button. I chose Holo there and I'm happy! Now all I need to do is adjust some more settings, remove some of the bloatware and we're good to go!
Would you say that the Honor 7X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Honor 7X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
No Problem with any performance and flies with the usage
Fantastic. Superb performance in this price range. Sometimes small lags is there but thats only if i applied any heavy modded themes. If we use stock themes no issues for me. Overall very happy with the speed. Never got any delay in any apps. Superb....
Day to day performance is great
Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out
You have to give the permission to file explorer & then you can install the app from file explorer doesn't work if you install from UC browser or other platforms directly.
Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356
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Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
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lol bot!!
Not good for heavy gaming.
crayonicle said:
Not good for heavy gaming.
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what if we play mini millitia
daalap10 said:
what if we play mini millitia
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never heard of the game, get the phone and try it out then
My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit
Hakeem5 said:
My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit
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Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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Yeah I feel like I'm in the twilight zone when I see people saying the speed is fine with minimal lag. That what leads me to think we may have defective units. With the Honor 6x I've seen people say that a factory reset fixed their issues.
Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.
joho5 said:
Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.
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OK thanks for the update, I will reset mine this weekend and will also be anticipating the View 10, especially if the price is right.
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Crackeds said:
Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out
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ya i am also facing the same problem when i am using third party application it shows gray button to install and i am not able to instal the app
Better performance.
I've found that disabling many of the Honor and EMUI apps (via Package Disabler or other methods) has made a huge difference in speed as well as battery life personally.
I've also experienced seemingly random slowdowns. Facebook seems to trigger it alot. clearing open apps speeds it back up.
Interestingly, it seems like it could be a ram issue, but i've never seen less than 1gb free ram, usually about 1.4gb free
I'll try disabling the emui/huawei apps to see if that helps.
I can't wait for oreo and project treble, then i can run regular aosp based without the emui bs.
joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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They probably post after only using it a few days. Mine was fine at first. After about a week sometimes it would freeze, especially if I'd recently used facebook and chrome the keyboard would struggle. I'd need to either wait or kill a few apps and it would go back to being okay.
The stock camera software has a lot of features, but it is waaaaaay to slow.
I needed a new phone, but we had a lot of expenses last year and so I bought something cheap. It's not terrible. I'll be happy to get a year out of it.
Hi guys.
I recently switched to OnePlus ( 7 pro specifically ) and out of all the phones I've used, XS max, note 10, S10 ECT it's by far the best phone I've used. Although 1 small problem is lately my phone has been feeling like it's getting slower and slower, more and more lags seems to be happening, and things are taking a lot longer to open. Is anyone else experiencing this, or have any ideas what I could do?
Thanks in advance.
I have never experienced this. Best I could think of is to factory reset, start completely from scratch. Maybe root and try a custom kernel.
GeekMcLeod said:
I have never experienced this. Best I could think of is to factory reset, start completely from scratch. Maybe root and try a custom kernel.
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Yeah I've thought of that. I've only used 50% of my storage so I don't think that would be the case. My last resort was a factory reset and custom kernels/Roms ECT. I'll see what other ideas people have first then see how we go from there I think
Okay so I installed Beta 7 and it seems to be a bit better, still not as good as it was when I first purchased it though
Are you running android 10 or 9? I'm sticking with 9 because i had issues with 10 (so do many others) No signs of slowdown here. Ive played with a note 10 and it doesnt compare to the op7 pro in terms of performance.
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Are you running android 10 or 9? I'm sticking with 9 because i had issues with 10 (so do many others) No signs of slowdown here. Ive played with a note 10 and it doesnt compare to the op7 pro in terms of performance.
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I'm on 10, have thought about changing back to 9 but there's quite a few things I enjoy about 10, except the slowness.
Don't get me wrong when I first opened my 7 pro, my other devices including my S10 didn't even feel like they were in the same ball park, but now it just feels like it's getting sluggish.
I've had freezing and its only 2 months old
Shipoftheline said:
I've had freezing and its only 2 months old
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I've had a couple of things freeze for about 20 seconds then it comes good again.
Just a thought, based on something I've experienced... Are you using Magisk Hide by chance? I've noticed that some apps (Google for instance) react poorly to being targeted by Magisk Manager.
aussiesausage said:
Hi guys.
I recently switched to OnePlus ( 7 pro specifically ) and out of all the phones I've used, XS max, note 10, S10 ECT it's by far the best phone I've used. Although 1 small problem is lately my phone has been feeling like it's getting slower and slower, more and more lags seems to be happening, and things are taking a lot longer to open. Is anyone else experiencing this, or have any ideas what I could do?
Thanks in advance.
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get havoc rom, all that trash will disappear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/development/rom-havoc-os-2-6-t3942337
also, sams has the worst software on android platforms.
Tardeaux said:
Just a thought, based on something I've experienced... Are you using Magisk Hide by chance? I've noticed that some apps (Google for instance) react poorly to being targeted by Magisk Manager.
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I'm not rooted, just stock Android 10.
It would really help by giving more info on what exactly you mean by "sluggishness". Are you saying general app opening speed/ sluggishness when typing emails/ slow bootup speeds? Where really is the problem...for all you know it could be a placebo effect or btw have you checked the screen refresh rate...is it 90hz or 60hz? Being on 90hz for so long, any other phone to me looks sluggish...
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It would really help by giving more info on what exactly you mean by "sluggishness". Are you saying general app opening speed/ sluggishness when typing emails/ slow bootup speeds? Where really is the problem...for all you know it could be a placebo effect or btw have you checked the screen refresh rate...is it 90hz or 60hz? Being on 90hz for so long, any other phone to me looks sluggish...
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The whole phone, everything I do, nothing is instant anymore. And yes it's on 90hz, I agree I used my S10 the other day and it looked terrible scrolling through stuff compared to 90hz
I second the OP. I have an OP 7 Pro, 12GB version. And after software updates etc, I have seen slowness on my phone. However, after root and running FDE.AI once, looks much better. I have no documentation to prove that actually is the case though, maybe a placebo effect.
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The whole phone, everything I do, nothing is instant anymore. And yes it's on 90hz, I agree I used my S10 the other day and it looked terrible scrolling through stuff compared to 90hz
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Funny, I can't see such sluggishness on my OP7Pro. It will be a joke to see sluggishness on these phones given that the phone specs are nothing short of desktop-level specs. I would highly recommend factory resetting your device or better yet starting right from scratch i.e. doing a fastboot stock rom flash using the latest update. This should (hopefully) iron out your issues. I'd also suggest being a bit careful on the apps that you install and rather not restore from google backups. It's best to start afresh (at least once in a while)
Just curious... Have you tried shutting off the animations or at sped them up?
I scaled mine down to 0 and my device is blazing fast now.
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Funny, I can't see such sluggishness on my OP7Pro. It will be a joke to see sluggishness on these phones given that the phone specs are nothing short of desktop-level specs. I would highly recommend factory resetting your device or better yet starting right from scratch i.e. doing a fastboot stock rom flash using the latest update. This should (hopefully) iron out your issues. I'd also suggest being a bit careful on the apps that you install and rather not restore from google backups. It's best to start afresh (at least once in a while)
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That is my plan providing I can't do anything without factoring resetting.
room511 said:
Just curious... Have you tried shutting off the animations or at sped them up?
I scaled mine down to 0 and my device is blazing fast now.
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No I haven't actually, I'll give that a go and see how I go
If you've used up 50% of your storage then of course the phone will be processing things slower than a phone that had nothing stored in it. That effect occurs with every device that has memory.
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If you've used up 50% of your storage then of course the phone will be processing things slower than a phone that had nothing stored in it. That effect occurs with every device that has memory.
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Well I've been at over 70% storage used for the past few months and have seen zero drop in performance. My pixel 2 xl is 80% storage used and it to performs as if it was bone stock. I have over 100 apps on my OP7 pro and haven't lost anything that I didn't have in terms of battery and performance. I swear I don't know what some people do with there phones but issues like these and battery usually come from poorly coded apps. You also can't download PornHub mobile and expect it not to come with consequence of some sort.
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If you've used up 50% of your storage then of course the phone will be processing things slower than a phone that had nothing stored in it. That effect occurs with every device that has memory.
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I've had multiple devices where I've used well over 50% storage and never had any issues.
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Well I've been at over 70% storage used for the past few months and have seen zero drop in performance. My pixel 2 xl is 80% storage used and it to performs as if it was bone stock. I have over 100 apps on my OP7 pro and haven't lost anything that I didn't have in terms of battery and performance. I swear I don't know what some people do with there phones but issues like these and battery usually come from poorly coded apps. You also can't download PornHub mobile and expect it not to come with consequence of some sort.
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There's a pornhub mobile app? I didn't even know, cheers ???
Kidding, but serious. I am not sure what's happening, maybe I have some app that's causing stupid issues I am not sure, I think I'm gonna factory reset and go from there I think.
That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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That Its true this can be fix with any software update?
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Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
Thank you the attentive answer, it not sounds too good . Not can be at a good and still cheap too
What is your proposal for the Galaxy A73 have you any experience this phone for regarding this topic?
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Thank you these usefull advise. i will try it asap and will feedback that what is the result.
This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
Also Facebook is a big resource hog. Even on an iPhone 13 it can stutter occasionally or even freezes specially in marketplace and makes the phone run hot. If you don't mind using the mobile version I would highly recommend using that instead the app.
I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I also think there is better devices for less mOney that even offer more but probably never get those 4 software updates. Like the Blu F91 BLU F91 5G | 2022 | 3-Day Battery | Unlocked | 6.8” Full HD+ Display | 128/8GB | 48MP Quad Camera | US Version | US Warranty | Sky Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJM9XVW/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_FW76ZJAX9F1BWN35ZA5M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 it has wireless fast charging and a gas charger in the box a case and screen protector and headphones. It's 5G and it's 250 dollars. This phone overall is a much better deal but the software probably will never or only be upgraded one time unfortunately.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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I agree 100% about facebook. I stopped using the app shortly after they first released it LOL. I find it much much easier to just use the mobile website.
I was looking at some Chinese devices as well before settling on this. One of the reasons I went with the a53 5G is compatibility with T-Mobile's 5G in my area. Also the software and support factored in. I was lucky enough to have my 6t for almost 4 years. That's the longest I've ever had a smartphone for and I really enjoyed being able to get that much lifespan out of a inexpensive device compared to the competition. The promise of support for this device led me to choose it even though it's only a mild upgrade from what I had before.
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thank you the usefull and detail of rich description...
It is laggy because Samsung picked the weaker hardware for this phone (even though it sells for mid range price, there is no SD778 or Exynos 1080 or Dimensity 1200). As others said you could disable things and only use 60Hz screen. But if you haven't bought it yet you can buy the A52s which will be smoother.
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This phone was definitely slower when I first got it. It took a few days of use for it to get adjusted. I also always replace the launcher with nova, keyboard with gboard, and messages with signal.
Then I use ADB to remove a couple of stupid packages. Like anything Facebook related any of the AR packages, apps that I don't use (why the hell does Samsung have two messaging apps on a phone stock?).
I came from the OnePlus 6t and I feel like this device is only a minor upgrade overall. In the end that's kind of all I was looking for because the 6t still ran great.
I do notice some poor responsiveness in the touch screen from time to time (although that seems to be getting better each day) and I definitely noticed a pretty big delay when I use voice to text. It definitely takes a second to fire up the mic which leads to it picking up where I'm talking mid sentence.
I may yank out more of the Samsung system apps as time goes on. For the moment I'm enjoying the Bixby routines because it's keeping me from needing to install Tasker. I recommend everyone try that at their own risk. Do some research first but there are a lot of system apps and processes that Samsung preloads in here that always run in the background sucking up precious RAM. I say try it at your own risk because if you uninstall the wrong applications you can mess your phone up pretty bad.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
kitchenfork said:
Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Did removing these packages help performance? I am going back and forth about whether to return the phone or not (the camera is unusable at the moment - but hopefully that changes with software updates - I am yet to receive the April update). Thanks.
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I'm confused. I don't have Facebook on my A53 or ADB wasn't needed if it was originally (and not system app). Did you grab a carrier one? That would explain it to me. Not seeing lag on my unlocked A53.
If you grabbed an unlocked one then I don't know why you'd have lag unless it had a physical issue or you use something I don't use that causes it.
dante501 said:
Temporary fix until software update hopefully can fix it.
1. Install and use nova launcher
2. Navigation bar buttons instead gestures.
3. Keyboard lag use Gboard
4. Messenger lag use google messenger.
It seems to fix most lag. It also seems to this is a software issues. Affecting Samsung apps and services. So delete all Samsung apps u can and disable the other u can't delete. Do not use any Samsung apps do not sign in to Samsung. Scrolling stutter only able to fix if screen is put to 60hrz but this isnt a 100% it still will occasionally stutter when scrolling webpages Facebook and so on but it is far less then with 120hrz.
But the 4 solutiona mentioned should fix most lag.
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Enable developer options and disable all animations should fix this without the need for installing a 3rd party launcher or other software.
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Removing packages helped free up some RAM. I'm definitely not experiencing the level of lag you're describing and the camera seems fine compared to my 6t.
This phone is half the price of most flagship devices. I'm not sure what your expectations are for such a device. Perhaps you should get a better device, or wait for the new oneplus Nord and see how it's performs.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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Hmmm, the camera takes about 1 to 2 seconds to take a photo, and sometimes doesn't take a photo at all and because of the lag I often miss the photo opportunity because I am waiting to see if it worked (daytime photos). The rest is manageable, but still laggier then my old S9+, I at least thought it would match that performance (I don't game, so only day to day use performance is important for me). Seems like my phone is unusually slow, maybe something went wrong when transferring over from s9+ and I should start fresh with a factory reset! Everything else about the phone is great, so I will persevere . A few software updates should hopefully smooth things out. Thanks for the help/suggestions.
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If its only the camera from press to saved then the April update should mostly if not fully solve that. You have the April update yet or not?
For me it seems to be under a second after April update. Pre-April it was more like 3-5 seconds.
Not really something I would have cared that much about either way lol. Just have to get used to it.
I've had this phone almost a week now.. I have SwiftKey as my kb...
Can't say I've noticed any type of lag on this device... 120hz, dark mode background services running, wifi calling on you name it.
What are y'all even all the reviewers doing to experience lag??
Kind of would like to know lol
V0latyle said:
Given the A53 is a "budget" device with low end hardware, the best you can really do is run a "clean" OS with as little bloat as possible. There isn't much that will make your device faster besides reducing what is running at any given time.
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A53 is not a "Budget" device. It is mid level. Samsung's budget devices are the A1#, A2# and A3# phones.