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Pipo M6 RK3188 16GB Review

Hey guys, I just received my Pipo M6 today so I thought I'd offer my experience so far. Keep in mind that I am coming from an iPad mini and my daily driver is a HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Build Quality:
TBH, I was hoping for something a little better after reading some user reviews. It's still quite good overall but there's just a few too many seams and the edges are a little rough at certain points. Nothing major but it just feels like a made and designed in China product. It doesn't bother me so much though since I won't notice it after putting it in a case.
I was glad to find that underneath the temporary screen protector which comes with all new products these days, there was another one underneath it which means you won't need to bother with putting on one yourself.
Screen:
VERY pretty. Viewing angles are good and colours really pop. Brightness level is amazing and will surely be sufficient even if you are in the dessert. In terms of resolution, you can set it to HD mode or Normal which requires a restart. I couldn't really notice any differences although I might if I had another one sitting side by side. Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
User Interface:
As you may know, you have the choice of using the standard Jelly Bean interface or the special Pipo interface which makes everything look a bit like Windows 8. I chose to go with the latter. Everything is quite smooth although perhaps not quite as flawless as my iPad mini but with Android devices, I've come to accept that.
I really like where they're going with this interface although there are some definite rough edges. It comes preloaded with 5 home screens labeled: Home, Media, Apps, Office and Web. These can not be removed. Within each, there are some widgets which corresponds to their respective headings. These widgets cannot be changed or removed. The other objects that cannot be changed or removed are the boxes ala Windows 8 which are predetermined to be either editable shortcuts or folders. I find this a bit annoying because sometimes I don't need so many folders and would prefer to just launch an app immediately when I tap it. You can add more homescreens and name them how you like but you can't change their colour or the types of boxes they contain. Overall, it all looks very nice but needs to be more customisable.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to install any games yet but so far the "feel" of the device seems very solid. I do have a problem when trying to install N.O.V.A. 3, i can't even find it in the Google Play Store. After finding it through Google, it says that my device cannot support it. I don't get it. My One X can install this game and it's far below the specs of the M6. If anyone can let me know why this is, I can install it and let you know how it performs.
Battery Life:
When I opened the box, it was already switched on and showed that it had been running on battery for about 28 hours (so it was probably opened by customs since it was posted out a week ago). Since then I've had the screen almost constantly on doing various things for the last 5 hours and it still has 40% juice left. Pretty good then!
Conclusion:
Overall, I'm quite happy. It has some small niggles but then it was pretty cheap. For the people who are worried that the RK3188 can't handle a retina display, I think you can relax. Everything runs smoothly enough. Plus, if you really prefer a lower resolution, you can change it in the settings to conserve battery life and increase performance. It beats having an M7, M8 or M9 purely because they have much smaller batteries. The 2x5000 mAh battery in the M6 was designed for the retina screen so if you use the normal resolution, it would wipe the competition clean.

MarcusJKX said:
Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.

Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk

pulsar124 said:
This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
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Ahh i see, that makes sense. I never owned a device without physical or capacitive buttons so it didn't occur to me.
andbroe said:
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Yeah I think it's also not bad. I wouldn't really call them gaps, but the seam that runs around the edge of the device definitely doesn't look consistent on my machine; some parts look a tiny fraction wider than the rest. Maybe you had better luck. bBy the way, do you have any idea why the Google Play Store won't let me download N.O.V.A. 3? I'm sure the specs are enough since even my HTC One X running a Tegra 3 can download it. Only thing I can think off is that the internal storage doesn't have enough space but then shouldn't it download into the NAND Flash? I have plenty of space there.
UPDATE: Been spending some more time with it. I am liking it less now that it's frozen up twice (both times requiring a hard reset by sticking a little needle in the small hole next to the back camera - didn't lose anything though). Also, I have a few apps that force the tablet into a vertical orientation and every time, they would force it into an upside down position (where the power button would be on the bottom as well as the front camera). I guess this indicates that the tablet's natural position is contrary to its physical design. I find this quite annoying to be honest and should hopefully be easily fixable with a firmware update. I hope they get on it! God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.

MarcusJKX said:
God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you

andbroe said:
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?

MarcusJKX said:
Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve

5teve said:
Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?

I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.

MarcusJKX said:
Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
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On mine which is on the SDK2 firmware - there is a big difference with chrome and the stock browsers - chrome is massively laggy, freezes, stutters and is generally rubbish. Stock browser is fast and smooth. The only issue I have is not being able to scroll down on translated pages (htcmania) but change of orientation solves that..
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve

matnl said:
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
5teve said:
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
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Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.

MarcusJKX said:
Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve

5teve said:
No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?

MarcusJKX said:
Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve

5teve said:
Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.

matnl said:
I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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Alright, my M6 froze again today whilst using Pulse so I think I've had enough. I'm gonna try to flash it with a rom. A couple of questions first. How can I check which SDK I'm on? It says my Kernel version is 3.0.36+ from June 25th. Does that mean I'm on SDK2.0 already since it's the latest?
Anyways, I don't wanna bother anyone here with writing out a full instructional so can someone please just confirm that all I need to do is follow this guide: http://www.freak-tab.de/rrileypm/First Time User Guide_pr0_rev5.pdf Of course, instead of using the RileyROM 1.2, I will use the M6 4.2.2 #20 from http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 . Also, why are there two files with the same name there? One uploaded on the 13th and one on the 15th of July? Thanks alot guys!

i already posted this to other threads
i bought my pipo m6 a week ago.. so far so bad!.. first off, i got a dirt INSIDE the screen, i was forced to remove the screen guard to see if its not a dirt in between the screen and the screen guard. unfortunately its inside the screen so there's no way of removing it without opening the whole system.. 2nd, im experiencing lags and forced close, QUAD CORE? 2GB RAM? what the!! my friends dual core phone is much better! mine doesnt even have to many apps yet. 3rd, i tried to play 1080 movies, mp4, it lags and crashes at me. aside from all this disappointing experience PIPO luncher form time to time force closes. another worse experience is that i experience FREEZE UP. the whole system froze while browsing facebook, for 20 minutes, all hardware buttons, touchscreen are not responding. i was forced to reset it via the little whole at the back of the device....i already updated to the 6/26 firmware release... but still getting the same issues. battery was good YES. but performance was disappointing. NOT TO MENTION the other users who comment about the SPEAKER! GOD! speaker sucks! based on a video i watched it was loud! but my SONY NEO V is way better! i hope that there is a FIRMWARE FIX to all this! except ofcourse about the screen dirt.. i was expecting to much about the new processor (QUAD CORE, better the DUAL CORE, RIGHT???), the ram but was getting to much frustration. the only GREAT thing about this device is the RETINA SCREEN, not including the DIRT of course, the the BATTERY!
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SquallDNA said:
i already posted this to other threads
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.

MarcusJKX said:
I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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i hope so too. thanks

SquallDNA said:
i hope so too. thanks
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I just flashed the RileyROM 1.2. They were right, it really was very easy. I'm in the process of restoring everything. I'll report back with my impressions on the performance later.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Honor 7X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Honor 7X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

No Problem with any performance and flies with the usage

Fantastic. Superb performance in this price range. Sometimes small lags is there but thats only if i applied any heavy modded themes. If we use stock themes no issues for me. Overall very happy with the speed. Never got any delay in any apps. Superb....

Day to day performance is great

Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out

You have to give the permission to file explorer & then you can install the app from file explorer doesn't work if you install from UC browser or other platforms directly.

Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356

Spillunke said:
Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356
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lol bot!!

Not good for heavy gaming.

crayonicle said:
Not good for heavy gaming.
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what if we play mini millitia

daalap10 said:
what if we play mini millitia
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never heard of the game, get the phone and try it out then

My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit

Hakeem5 said:
My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit
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Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.

joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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Yeah I feel like I'm in the twilight zone when I see people saying the speed is fine with minimal lag. That what leads me to think we may have defective units. With the Honor 6x I've seen people say that a factory reset fixed their issues.

Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.

joho5 said:
Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.
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OK thanks for the update, I will reset mine this weekend and will also be anticipating the View 10, especially if the price is right.

ya
Crackeds said:
Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out
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ya i am also facing the same problem when i am using third party application it shows gray button to install and i am not able to instal the app

Better performance.
I've found that disabling many of the Honor and EMUI apps (via Package Disabler or other methods) has made a huge difference in speed as well as battery life personally.

I've also experienced seemingly random slowdowns. Facebook seems to trigger it alot. clearing open apps speeds it back up.
Interestingly, it seems like it could be a ram issue, but i've never seen less than 1gb free ram, usually about 1.4gb free
I'll try disabling the emui/huawei apps to see if that helps.
I can't wait for oreo and project treble, then i can run regular aosp based without the emui bs.

joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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They probably post after only using it a few days. Mine was fine at first. After about a week sometimes it would freeze, especially if I'd recently used facebook and chrome the keyboard would struggle. I'd need to either wait or kill a few apps and it would go back to being okay.
The stock camera software has a lot of features, but it is waaaaaay to slow.
I needed a new phone, but we had a lot of expenses last year and so I bought something cheap. It's not terrible. I'll be happy to get a year out of it.

Micro-stutters and GPU governor behaviour

Hello,
Like a lot of people on the various Oneplus 6 forums, I too am experiencing occasional micro-stutters in the UI. I wanted to start a discussion here for people who are also experiencing this and also to share various ways to mitigate it.
On my Oneplus 3 (had it for 2 years) I always had the GPU governor set to "performance" and it was always butter smooth with decent battery life. There were never any dropped frames or micro-stutters because everytime I touched my screen the GPU would jump to max (450Mhz) before dropping back down to minimum. This ensured a speedy UI when touching and scrolling the screen.
I want to repeat this on my Oneplus 6 but I'm having difficulty in getting the phone to use the performance GPU governor. I can set it to performance but doing so doesn't ramp the GPU to max frequency when touching the screen like it did on my Oneplus 3
I'm currently on OOS 5.1.8 rooted with magisk and running ElementalX kernel.
Can anyone please test this out on their phone - set performance GPU governor and check what happens to the GPU frequency when touching the screen (use a GPU frequency monitoring app). It should jump to MAX freqency but it doesn't for me.
I'm interested to know if it does for anyone else - perhaps on a different kernel than ElementalX

have this micro stuttering, very annoying ...

damn ,just as i was about to get a op6 after next week.
what exactly is this micro stuttering? im currently using a 6p and feel somewhat outdated with the snap810.
i get occassional lags and its annoying, and also stutters.
im surprised to see the stuttering in op6, if more ppl have this i might ditch the 6 and get a 5t..
EDIT: Darn, googled oneplus stuttering and it seems the 5t is affected too ._.'

If you are experiencing shuttering while scrolling as the finger is on the screen. It's an app with accessibility access causing it. Removing the app completely fixes it

leondestiny said:
damn ,just as i was about to get a op6 after next week.
what exactly is this micro stuttering? im currently using a 6p and feel somewhat outdated with the snap810.
i get occassional lags and its annoying, and also stutters.
im surprised to see the stuttering in op6, if more ppl have this i might ditch the 6 and get a 5t..
EDIT: Darn, googled oneplus stuttering and it seems the 5t is affected too ._.'
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Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.

TheNetwork said:
Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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honestly i was paranoid for a while only, i know the op6 is the phone to get for me.
i will probably get one after like 10 days..
i bet it will be like night and day difference between my 6p ..
excited to get it, which color would you recommend?
i wanted the grey version initially but i heard it can be slippery?
the black one will have more grip but is a fingerprint magnet, what about the white one.. hmm
i guess either of the 3 will be fine, will see what they have i guess.
and i think OP could fix his stutters simply by rooting and flashing some goodies.
i root my phones day1 XD
i hope dev support will be good for OP6, heard that theres that a/b thing.
and some roms called treble roms? apparently are not so stable, but that there will eventually be normal custom roms..
plus i saw nathan in the op6 section, theres flash kernel for the op6 baby..
cant go wrong with this one..
now i only need to find myself a good glass screen protector ,since the one it comes with is a plastic sp.

TheNetwork said:
Don't listen to him, he's full of crap honestly. If you CHOOSE to obsess over minor non-issues that 99.9% of people won't notice, that's your (OP's) problem, not OnePlus's. This phone is faster than anything on the market and if OP is really so desperate to find something better he's more than welcome to develop his own ROMs and kernels, or produce his own phone that he thinks is perfect and see how many people buy it.
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Mind your own business. Minor non issues, yeah sure. You obviously have no idea what op is talking about.

i too have noticed it, and i'm using franken kernel

masri1987 said:
i too have noticed it, and i'm using franken kernel
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Something like an app is causing that. I can run through apps, scroll constantly in settings, scroll and surf on the web constantly with no stopping and I get maybe 1 frame lost every 20 seconds or so. I have like 60 apps installed.

I'm using stock , never rooted , I have never notice this stutter.
I have rooted alot of phones too, just not the op6 because I see no need to.
Maybe faulty units ?
If you want to see stutter use the s8 lol.

I noticed does drops also. But whit https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/development/kernel-franken-t3799290/ newest version it almost gone for me. Very little when it occurs.

For me those drops are gone again after a reboot, but they are always coming back.

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For me those drops are gone again after a reboot, but they are always coming back.
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Yes, I noticed that, so far almost a day and no annoying stutters, hope so to stay that way ? will report how it will stay after a night.

Driver007 said:
Yes, I noticed that, so far almost a day and no annoying stutters, hope so to stay that way ? will report how it will stay after a night.
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That's mostly when they are coming back for me, after a long time of idling. Let us know, thanks!

Fully stock phone. No microstutters, but the frames do drop from 60+ normally to about 30 on some ui interactions. Still smooth to the eye though.

I've come to the conclusion that the UI stutters and animation jank is much worse in 5.1.8 so I am downgrading to 5.1.6 until Oneplus sorts it's Oxygen OS out. There are clearly problems within OOS itself with stutters. Many others are also observing this too and those who are not, are either not bothered by it (maybe used Samsung previously so are used to it) or simply don't see it even though it is there.
The proof of this is that I have set performance governors on both big and little CPU clusters AND also set performance GPU governor (so in effect, throwing the entire resources of Oneplus 6 at the UI) and still there are dropped frames all over the UI. Hell, even my old Oneplus 3 was never nearly this bad and was buttery smooth in comparison. I am completely disappointed with this phone having been superbly impressed with the Oneplus 3. These kind of UI stutters are why I don't touch Samsung anymore and I thought I had found refuge in Oneplus phones
I'm probably going to get a Pixel 3 next time round and if I can't get a buttery smooth UI on Oneplus 6. I'm begginning to consider selling it and moving on such is my frustration and disappointment.
Come on Oneplus! you can do better than this
Edit: before anyone starts saying anything, I DON'T have xposed or any fancy mods. All I have is stock OOS with Magisk rooted. I have tried 3 different kernels on 5.1.8 - Elemental, Stock and Blu_spark. All produce these stutters/frame drops.

carlos67 said:
I've come to the conclusion that the UI stutters and animation jank is much worse in 5.1.8 so I am downgrading to 5.1.6 until Oneplus sorts it's Oxygen OS out. There are clearly problems within OOS itself with stutters. Many others are also observing this too and those who are not, are either not bothered by it (maybe used Samsung previously so are used to it) or simply don't see it even though it is there.
The proof of this is that I have set performance governors on both big and little CPU clusters AND also set performance GPU governor (so in effect, throwing the entire resources of Oneplus 6 at the UI) and still there are dropped frames all over the UI. Hell, even my old Oneplus 3 was never nearly this bad and was buttery smooth in comparison. I am completely disappointed with this phone having been superbly impressed with the Oneplus 3. These kind of UI stutters are why I don't touch Samsung anymore and I thought I had found refuge in Oneplus phones
I'm probably going to get a Pixel 3 next time round and if I can't get a buttery smooth UI on Oneplus 6. I'm begginning to consider selling it and moving on such is my frustration and disappointment.
Come on Oneplus! you can do better than this
Edit: before anyone starts saying anything, I DON'T have xposed or any fancy mods. All I have is stock OOS with Magisk rooted. I have tried 3 different kernels on 5.1.8 - Elemental, Stock and Blu_spark. All produce these stutters/frame drops.
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Can you post the bug reports or your observations to official oneplus bug reporting platform?
This will draw their attention and issue might be solved much faster than posting it here.
https://forums.oneplus.com/feedback/
Thanks

sarus_b said:
Can you post the bug reports or your observations to official oneplus bug reporting platform?
This will draw their attention and issue might be solved much faster than posting it here.
https://forums.oneplus.com/feedback/
Thanks
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Have just submitted a bug report to Oneplus. Thanks for the link :good:
I suggest anyone else experiencing this does the same. If we all do then Oneplus may take notice.

carlos67 said:
Have just submitted a bug report to Oneplus. Thanks for the link :good:
I suggest anyone else experiencing this does the same. If we all do then Oneplus may take notice.
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Share link so I can confirm it

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The post immediatly above mine

Question Why does MIUI 13 (Android 12) feel so sluggish and generally-speaking slow on X3 Pro?

Hi everyone,
I was thrilled last night when my X3 Pro showed an upgrade to Android 12-based MIUI 13 was available. I downloaded the thing (all 3.1 GB of it...), install went without a hitch, ditto reboot, but I'm severely disappointed so far.
Everything feels slow and sluggish, even with the power slider set to Performance and the screen refresh rate pegged at 120 Hz.
Navigation in the Settings menu is OK, but all the other applications are slow to react. Scrolling up and down my Twitter timeline doesn't feel as snappy as it did before, when I was still on MIUI 12.x and Android 11.
Have any of you noticed the same thing? Did Xiaomi jump the gun with this update? I know Android must rebuild some system and application caches after each upgrade and all, but still, this doesn't quite feel right.
The only good thing is the battery life, which seems to have improved a bit, but that's all. DevCheck shows CPU peaks at 2.4 GHz under strain, but the Kryo core that's supposed to clock at 2.9 GHz never seems to wake up.
Did Xiaomi underclock the CPU the way Samsung does sometimes, to preserve battery life? Like I said, something's not right here...

Why do you even MIUI in the first place ?

I had the same. Only the factory reset showed the miui13 claw on Android 12. Tetaz everything runs smoothly. The battery holds up better.

I'm not inclined to do that just now. I've got tons of music and stuff on my phone and I really don't have the time at the moment, but push come to shove, maybe I'll have to do it.

jarco1 said:
Should i factory reset broh my miui updater was not working and everytime it was downloading corrupted zip so i downloaded it from the web with exact same name of the zip file from xiaomi server and updated in miui additional update.
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Just updated my X3 Pro about an hour ago and I'm totally disappointed. It feels heavier and slower to respond overall. Apps like Twitter, Telegram, and Instagram seem much slower and laggy and stutter when scrolling. Twitter in particular runs like disaster. My phone was buttery smooth and did not have any lagging issue even when I tried to create one before this stupid update!!! Should I factory reset or wait for another update or something guys?

omidsr said:
Just updated my X3 Pro about an hour ago and I'm totally disappointed. It feels heavier and slower to respond overall. Apps like Twitter, Telegram, and Instagram seem much slower and laggy and stutter when scrolling. Twitter in particular runs like disaster. My phone was buttery smooth and did not have any lagging issue even when I tried to create one before this stupid update!!! Should I factory reset or wait for another update or something guys?
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Mine is slowly getting there, in terms of ease of use and overall smoothness, so I suppose it's a matter of Android reconstructing apps and system caches after all. It's not quite as smooth as it was under 12.5.9, though, and some "features" are mildly annoying, like the fact that I have to tap the Return to home button twice to actually close some apps (but not all of them). It's hard to tell if the app itself is causing this or if it's an Android 12 trait.

UglyStuff said:
Mine is slowly getting there, in terms of ease of use and overall smoothness, so I suppose it's a matter of Android reconstructing apps and system caches after all. It's not quite as smooth as it was under 12.5.9, though, and some "features" are mildly annoying, like the fact that I have to tap the Return to home button twice to actually close some apps (but not all of them). It's hard to tell if the app itself is causing this or if it's an Android 12 trait.
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I'm also seeing some improvements over time! Totally agree with you! It's getting better as things get reconstructed and stuff but STILL it feels slower than the snappy phone it was before the update. Seems we need to be patient! I don't think a factory reset is worth the time and hassle now that things are showing signs of getting back to normal.

I totally agree. I resort to factory reset only when necessary, with a gun to my head and a knife to my throat...
Let's give it a week or so and we'll see; After all, it's a big upgrade: new MIUI version + moving from Android 11 to Android 12.
Time will tell, but I'm relieved to see it's not my imagination if the phone feels slower!

UglyStuff said:
I totally agree. I resort to factory reset only when necessary, with a gun to my head and a knife to my throat...
Let's give it a week or so and we'll see; After all, it's a big upgrade: new MIUI version + moving from Android 11 to Android 12.
Time will tell, but I'm relieved to see it's not my imagination if the phone feels slower!
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Agreed! Yup, it definitely is slower to my eyes too. It's no imagination. Sure, it's a BIG update and many enhancements and fixes are to follow in the near future!

Everyone decides for himself what he wants to do. I just wrote that after the update, the phone was stuttering and restoring the factory settings made it run faster and smoother as on miui 12.5.9.0 and it heats up less

Its 2022 and people still dont get that its good to do any major updates on clean phone or do factory reset to remove any issues, official or not, its just how android work really :/
People always had such issues and they probably will have them in the future.
Its not like your life depend on getting new software, so just update later when you have some free time to do clean install or do factory reset.
It remind me of installing custom ROMs when you get feeling that its smoother. Well most of that speed came from having clean system, and after month or two you loose some of it. Here you have clooged system with your stuff and app cache, and you throw on top new OS... you will get some issues...

You guys should know that it is highly recommended to reset during a major Android update if you don't then don't be surprised by weird bugs.

its the common rule,when you are updating any rom on any device,its proper to factory reset and built from then.....i believe its a dirty installation even if you factory reset-install rom-restore data from recovery....even that it will give you some errors....noticed last time with a11,restored from backup ,and the time between restarts,is way to more.....

I have the same problem. I updated it on March 16 (Wednesday) and it's obviously buggy and slow. Google discover on the home screen was so unstable I had to remove it altogether. Phone lags in being unlocked by fingerprint, and locking it with two taps is done without any animation. Gallery is un-usable too as it's become to slow and it stutters. The game boost slider in games is un-usable as it interferes with the game so I've disabled it. I am NOT happy with this upgrade.
Battery might've improved but I suspect they've sacrificed the performance.

just install a custom rom

John1337 said:
I have the same problem. I updated it on March 16 (Wednesday) and it's obviously buggy and slow. Google discover on the home screen was so unstable I had to remove it altogether. Phone lags in being unlocked by fingerprint, and locking it with two taps is done without any animation. Gallery is un-usable too as it's become to slow and it stutters. The game boost slider in games is un-usable as it interferes with the game so I've disabled it. I am NOT happy with this upgrade.
Battery might've improved but I suspect they've sacrificed the performance.
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You can read. After all, many people wrote that after such a large update, and even more so, switching from android 11 to 12, it is advisable to do a factory reset and you will not have any problems. The fluidity will increase significantly and the battery will hold better. It's so hard to understand. The same is done when installing a custom rom.

jarco1 said:
You can read. After all, many people wrote that after such a large update, and even more so, switching from android 11 to 12, it is advisable to do a factory reset and you will not have any problems. The fluidity will increase significantly and the battery will hold better. It's so hard to understand. The same is done when installing a custom rom.
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Maybe work on your grammar and semantics first, and then talk about things being difficult to understand. It's common knowledge that a factory-reset is advisable after an upgrade, and it's not like you're imparting arcane knowledge by saying a factory-reset should be done. What is being discussed here are bugs encountered after an upgrade, and since it's android 12 it's expected that a factory reset shouldn't be needed.
Check your attitude, no one asked for help.

In my opinion, Miui's overall optimization on this phone is a disaster. In one year they haven't been able to correct the Google Discover's tremendous lag yet (I think they haven't even tried to). I have done a totally clean installation of Miui 13 Android 12 via fastboot (using miflash). I must say that the optimization now is even worse than it was before the update. The phone just feels slower. Of course we can use custom roms, but it is Xiaomi's responsability to do a much better work with their software.

I hid the notification and I will not update for a long time until I know that there are improvements to something, since the beta I read that the version has problems :/

Question 2+ Week impressions

Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol

Try clearing the system cache.
All Samsung's need to be optimized and I'm not talking about enabling power management. It tends to do the opposite and will likely cause erratic behavior.
What's going on with the ram?
Wonder if scoped storage is helping to screw it up? It uses extra cpu cycles not sure if it impacts ram usage though. I deliberately avoided Android 11 and 12 because of it... no regrets.

blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
All Samsung's need to be optimized and I'm not talking about enabling power management. It tends to do the opposite and will likely cause erratic behavior.
What's going on with the ram?
Wonder if scoped storage is helping to screw it up? It uses extra cpu cycles not sure if it impacts ram usage though. I deliberately avoided Android 11 and 12 because of it... no regrets.
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Just seems like only 4 apps at a time can stay in memory anything after that is reloaded.

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Just seems like only 4 apps at a time can stay in memory anything after that is reloaded.
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Can you change that in Developer options?
Standard limit... or did they change the "standard"?
Lol, I close out apps constantly especially Brave browser which always runs in the background otherwise.

joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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Exynos i think?

joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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I think people need to accept that Android is essentially malware and was designed by a company to continuously extract as much information on you as possible behind the scenes. I would estimate at least 90% of all Android apps participate in this game to gain your info for profit. People wonder why phones are sluggish with all this activity happening in the background. This is the cost for all of us users to get an OS and application environment for free.
So the fact that each of us needs to fine tune, debloat, optimize, etc on any new phone to reign in the OS and apps to get acceptable performance is not something new. It really is a journey to research and get any phone working smoothly as each one of us has different use cases.
PS - my new S22 Ultra (SD/T-Mobile) is fast as lightning and I'm very happy with it.

This has been the worst new phone transition I've ever had. From trying to order to Samsung stretching the truth about the specs, to configuring every app from scratch. To multiple Factory Resets just to solve something buggy. To Google apps not performing the same.
I expected the major debloat and privacy settings. I did not expect T-Mo to install Facebook 4 times nor that it would take 6 phone calls to unlock a phone I paid for fully.
I am happy with the performance, screen, and the camera is beyond words. Hoping I am about done configuring and side loading. adb is your friend.

So far, the S22 Ultra feels like the Note20 Ultra with faster data speeds, better battery life, and slightly better camera. There is nothing earth shattering but overall seems a bit better. My only complaints are the weaker vibrate motor and lack of microSD card support.
I had a chance to test the S21 Ultra against the S22 Ultra and found the S21 Ultra to have slightly better speakers, stronger vibration motor, slightly better battery life and it's nice that it comes with up to 16 GB RAM. It's easier to hold as well, but the screen aspect ratio is less practical in many cases. It also gets warmer than the S22 Ultra.
For everything that improves with these iterative upgrades, there are a few steps back. If you're happy with your Note20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I'd say there's no rush to upgrade unless you get an amazing deal.

joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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Not seeing any of the lag with shutter you talking about. With or without the flash and 4k 60fps video recording works fine too even in the dark. As for the Ram+ I got mine set at 8gb and I can open and run 12 apps without any problem whatsoever. Never had any problems with T-Mobile signal. Maybe you should try a fresh install? I havent really had any issues since day one other than battery life sucks. I didn't do a fresh install either. I just used Samsung Smartwatch to setup the phone exactly like my S20U which I traded for the Unlocked 512gb using a prepaid T-Mobile plan so no T-mobile software or bloat on here.

Rubby1025 said:
I think people need to accept that Android is essentially malware and was designed by a company to continuously extract as much information on you as possible behind the scenes. I would estimate at least 90% of all Android apps participate in this game to gain your info for profit. People wonder why phones are sluggish with all this activity happening in the background. This is the cost for all of us users to get an OS and application environment for free.
So the fact that each of us needs to fine tune, debloat, optimize, etc on any new phone to reign in the OS and apps to get acceptable performance is not something new. It really is a journey to research and get any phone working smoothly as each one of us has different use cases.
PS - my new S22 Ultra (SD/T-Mobile) is fast as lightning and I'm very happy with it.
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Sorry. No. This ain't it cheif. People make the same argument for TVs (that if they were to make "dummy" TVs without Android it would be a $5K set... um $5K TVs exist and still have the spyware). The gaslighting by manufacturers is real.
Also 2~5K sets then did indeed exist, and for the sake of argument I'm not gonna talk inflation cause it really didn't change /that/ much aside from all mfr's getting greedy since covid. 2010's "smart" TVs didn't exist and the "smart" features were only on more expensive sets, as well as being more useless than today.
I paid for the hardware. But it's a "license to use" argument is the same bull that the pro-copyright NES crowd uses... sheesh

Paul_Deemer said:
Not seeing any of the lag with shutter you talking about. With or without the flash and 4k 60fps video recording works fine too even in the dark. As for the Ram+ I got mine set at 8gb and I can open and run 12 apps without any problem whatsoever. Never had any problems with T-Mobile signal. Maybe you should try a fresh install? I havent really had any issues since day one other than battery life sucks. I didn't do a fresh install either. I just used Samsung Smartwatch to setup the phone exactly like my S20U which I traded for the Unlocked 512gb using a prepaid T-Mobile plan so no T-mobile software or bloat on here.
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Something is wrong if you're getting bad battery life. It's because you didn't do a fresh install, try factory resetting and it'll be way better.
S22 Ultra 5G US AT&T locked Snapdragon 512gb AVC8 flashed U1 firmware

Kris_b1104 said:
Something is wrong if you're getting bad battery life. It's because you didn't do a fresh install, try factory resetting and it'll be way better.
S22 Ultra 5G US AT&T locked Snapdragon 512gb AVC8 flashed U1 firmware
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Factory reset guarantees nothing. Best to find the root cause to avoid a recurrence. Since each load is unique to the user, unique issues can and do evolve.
Use factory reset for: major upgrades, if you used SmartSwitch (don't make the same mistake twice), malware or if a buggy 3rd party app that altered hidden user settings you can't undo.

blackhawk said:
Factory reset guarantees nothing. Best to find the root cause to avoid a recurrence. Since each load is unique to the user, unique issues can and do evolve.
Use factory reset for: major upgrades, if you used SmartSwitch (don't make the same mistake twice), malware or if a buggy 3rd party app that altered hidden user settings you can't undo.
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It's a last resort but if has to be done then that's what you gotta do. It's the endgame. If it don't work after that your screwed.

Paul_Deemer said:
It's a last resort but if has to be done then that's what you gotta do. It's the endgame. If it don't work after that your screwed.
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If you inadvertently add the app(s) or setting(s) that caused it, you just shot yourself in the foot, again.
Never use SmartSwitch if the first load went bad using it, do a clean load instead.
Tracking down the cause can be time consuming but it's a lesson learned and time saved in the future; a reload is very time consuming. I reserve it for primarily boot loops and persistent malware.
My current load has been saved from a factory reset a couple of times, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. It will be 2 yo this June.
Some those fixes seemed impossible at first but all were done within the confines of a stock Android without using adb edits, etc.

blackhawk said:
If you inadvertently add the app(s) or setting(s) that caused it, you just shot yourself in the foot, again.
Never use SmartSwitch if the first load went bad using it, do a clean load instead.
Tracking down the cause can be time consuming but it's a lesson learned and time saved in the future; a reload is very time consuming. I reserve it for primarily boot loops and persistent malware.
My current load has been saved from a factory reset a couple of times, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. It will be 2 yo this June.
Some those fixes seemed impossible at first but all were done within the confines of a stock Android without using adb edits, etc.
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Well I haven't had a single issue with mine even using smart switch but others heve. Guess I am just one of the lucky ones.

Paul_Deemer said:
Well I haven't had a single issue with mine even using smart switch but others heve. Guess I am just one of the lucky ones.
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That's a good thing
It's completely unpredictable. I've used SmartSwitch without issues. I don't trust it at all though... I remember Kies
It may have screwed up the load on my newest N10+, still troubleshooting it. It developed a... lag No big deal.
Almost all issues can be resolved by simply "playing" with it, Adroids wuv attention.