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Fixed the lagg! Phone is now amazing. - Swapped Units

After having done everything I possibly could to speed up the phone, reluctantly, I just went to an AT&T store to see if any of the employees had a Galaxy S4 that I could compare my lag issues too. None of them did, however I was able to swap out my release day S4 for a brand new one.
Let me tell you guys, there is a night and day difference. This phone is now performing like it should. It is fast, responsive, and I am NOT experiencing any of the previous lag issues. Everything is butter smooth with this new handset. I mean smooth!!!!! Menus, Internet browser, gallery, and the camera. Even with all the bloatware still enabled, this phone performs as Samsung wanted.
I strongly advise and urge anyone with lag issues to go in and swap out their handsets for a new one.
Mod Edit: I have lightly edited the title of your post so that it is not misleading or representative of an actual lag fix

Given that the reports of lag seem to be like 50% or more, I reallllllllly hope this isn't a hardware issue....

burningembers said:
Given that the reports of lag seem to be like 50% or more, I reallllllllly hope this isn't a hardware issue....
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If I had to take an educated guess before, I would have said the problem is in the software. The phone seemed fast, but still lagged.
I had almost talked myself into waiting till the next update. What a sucker I would have been!
Even went into the AT&T store, only wanting to compare my phone with another persons. I had no intention of swapping them out, but the CSR offered so I said what the heck.
Previously, I had lag while surfing the internet with stock Internet app, lag while switching through menus or apps, and most noticeably, was when I took a picture and immediately selected the new picture for viewing in the Gallery app. This would take about 10-15 seconds to process. The Galaxy S4 now takes a second to process the new picture and display it in the Gallery app.
Interesting enough, and I suppose this should have been an indicator, but restart your phone and watch the Samsung logo fly in. Does it lag or shutter or stutter at all? My old one did, but the new one is silky smooth.
I am one happy Galaxy S4 owner at this point.

burningembers said:
Given that the reports of lag seem to be like 50% or more, I reallllllllly hope this isn't a hardware issue....
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OP: I did a factory reset on mine and it was awesome then the lag came back. It's software related, which will be fixed in an update soon.
Highly doubtful the hardware would be cashing lag. If so, they'll have to do a recall.

OP: please keep us updated and if your phone stays this way.

Grant H said:
If I had to take an educated guess before, I would have said the problem is in the software. The phone seemed fast, but still lagged.
I had almost talked myself into waiting till the next update. What a sucker I would have been!
Even went into the AT&T store, only wanting to compare my phone with another persons. I had no intention of swapping them out, but the CSR offered so I said what the heck.
Previously, I had lag while surfing the internet with stock Internet app, lag while switching through menus or apps, and most noticeably, was when I took a picture and immediately selected the new picture for viewing in the Gallery app. This would take about 10-15 seconds to process. The Galaxy S4 now takes a second to process the new picture and display it in the Gallery app.
Interesting enough, and I suppose this should have been an indicator, but restart your phone and watch the Samsung logo fly in. Does it lag or shutter or stutter at all? My old one did, but the new one is silky smooth.
I am one happy Galaxy S4 owner at this point.
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Okay, this may be different than the other lag users are talking about. We see...miniscule stutter in glow animations, transitions, and the periodic 0.5 - 1 second pause in something happening that often times happens faster than that.
It sounds like perhaps you were having more significant issues. None of my lag is a 10-15 second delay. My Samsung logo is just fine. I still have what I consider to be "lag".
Glad you got it sorted out though, cheers!

MattMJB0188 said:
OP: I did a factory reset on mine and it was awesome then the lag came back. It's software related, which will be fixed in an update soon.
Highly doubtful the hardware would be cashing lag. If so, they'll have to do a recall.
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My old S4 lagged from day one and even after a reset I did not notice an improvement.
It is quite possible though, that I had experienced a hardware fault on my last one, and that other people's issues will be fixed with a software update.

burningembers said:
Okay, this may be different than the other lag users are talking about. We see...miniscule stutter in glow animations, transitions, and the periodic 0.5 - 1 second pause in something happening that often times happens faster than that.
It sounds like perhaps you were having more significant issues. None of my lag is a 10-15 second delay. My Samsung logo is just fine. I still have what I consider to be "lag".
Glad you got it sorted out though, cheers!
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Yeah, those problems sound software related and fixable. I'll gladly wait for that update.

So you didnt actually fix the lag, you only swapped out the device. Kinda confirming the people with lag have faulty devices? :0

OP misstated, he switched out with an HTC One and that's why the lag was gone :laugh:

Can maybe someone post a short video of the lag that they experience coz im kinda skeptical if my lag is just right or may I just got used to it
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lyrad12 said:
Can maybe someone post a short video of the lag that they experience coz im kinda skeptical if my lag is just right or may I just got used to it
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I tried asking for this before since I dont have this terrible lag and noone has posted a video yet.....so it never happened.

burningembers said:
Okay, this may be different than the other lag users are talking about. We see...miniscule stutter in glow animations, transitions, and the periodic 0.5 - 1 second pause in something happening that often times happens faster than that.
It sounds like perhaps you were having more significant issues. None of my lag is a 10-15 second delay. My Samsung logo is just fine. I still have what I consider to be "lag".
Glad you got it sorted out though, cheers!
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So you didnt actually fix the lag, you only swapped out the device. Kinda confirming the people with lag have faulty devices? :0
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This was certainly my case lol. Maybe it it's others as well. I saw one other case where a swap fixed the problem.
Like others have just mentioned, I guess part of the problem was that I did not know the extent of my problem until I had the new phone. I thought that everyone was experiencing issues like mine with lag. Come to find out, I was probably experiencing far greater lag issues (possibly hardware related) than everyone else.

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Grant H said:
After having done everything I possibly could to speed up the phone, reluctantly, I just went to an AT&T store to see if any of the employees had a Galaxy S4 that I could compare my lag issues too. None of them did, however I was able to swap out my release day S4 for a brand new one.
Let me tell you guys, there is a night and day difference. This phone is now performing like it should. It is fast, responsive, and I am NOT experiencing any of the previous lag issues. Everything is butter smooth with this new handset. I mean smooth!!!!! Menus, Internet browser, gallery, and the camera. Even with all the bloatware still enabled, this phone performs as Samsung wanted.
I strongly advise and urge anyone with lag issues to go in and swap out their handsets for a new one.
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You didn't fix the lag... you swaped phones! You thread title is misleading...

I exchanged mine today and all I can say is that's it's better then my old one.
Buttery smooth it's NOT and it still lags and shutters a bit..
My previous S4 did not have the black crush issues and this one does... YAWN!
Exchange one issue for another...

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OP misstated, he switched out with an HTC One and that's why the lag was gone :laugh:
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LOL, that would be the solution alright
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

I think this is all placebo...
It's like when people flash a new rom and all the cache is cleared and no apps are installed - BOOM IT'S SO FAST NOA!!
Come on guys, the hardware doesn't have voodoo magic built in to it. This stuff is all manufactured down to tolerances within microns that are desirable for silicon-based electronics. They ALL perform within 1-2% of each other.. Outside variables such as temperature can affect this or current caches, etc..
Blaming the hardware is a rediculous joke IMO. If the hardware was at fault the phone would have much more severe problems than just some minor lag.

akira02rex said:
I think this is all placebo...
It's like when people flash a new rom and all the cache is cleared and no apps are installed - BOOM IT'S SO FAST NOA!!
Come on guys, the hardware doesn't have voodoo magic built in to it. This stuff is all manufactured down to tolerances within microns that are desirable for silicon-based electronics. They ALL perform within 1-2% of each other.. Outside variables such as temperature can affect this or current caches, etc..
Blaming the hardware is a rediculous joke IMO. If the hardware was at fault the phone would have much more severe problems than just some minor lag.
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You are right to a point.. Some phones will have hardware issues as it's the nature of the beast. Just like cars, washers, dryers, refrigerators, ect.. Make enough and some will not work properly..
My new S4 is a bit smoother as far as I can see but time will tell. I can say with absolute certainty that my old unit did not have black crush and this one does..

raqball said:
You are right to a point.. Some phones will have hardware issues as it's the nature of the beast. Just like cars, washers, dryers, refrigerators, ect.. Make enough and some will not work properly..
My new S4 is a bit smoother as far as I can see but time will tell. I can say with absolute certainty that my old unit did not have black crush and this one does..
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Without any real concrete evidence this post is nothing but heresay and everyone should be taking his word with a giant pinch of salt.
He technically should have benchmarked it roughly 5-10 times, averaged it.. CPU and GPU benchmarks as well... then benchmarked the new device. That would rule out a hardware issue. But we have no evidence, so we can't simply believe him.

akira02rex said:
Without any real concrete evidence this post is nothing but heresay and everyone should be taking his word with a giant pinch of salt.
He technically should have benchmarked it roughly 5-10 times, averaged it.. CPU and GPU benchmarks as well... then benchmarked the new device. That would rule out a hardware issue. But we have no evidence, so we can't simply believe him.
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Well, you are obviously correct about the needed benchmark evidence. However, its not that unusual for the specs of phones (especially ones that have been rushed for release) to vary a great bit. Though it is true that they are not supposed to. You have to remember that not all of these phones are manufactured and assembled in the exact same plant and in the past, it is known that panels and chip sets have been supplied differently because of demand issues. When the S2 Skyrocket was released, many of the first units had streaks or bars present in the display when it was dark...it was a hardware issue. Not all of them had it but many did. I'm sure other phones were released with similar issues to start with.
Overall, I think it is way to early to say if the majority of the problems on the S4 phones are software related, hardware related, or a little of both. It is also to early to tell if certain problems can be traced back to certain "lots" they may have been sub-standard. Releasing millions of phones to hundreds are markets in a short time causes a lot of confusion.
So maybe its hardware issues, maybe its software and can be fixed by the magical unicorn of all OTAs, or maybe it's a little of both. I think this is why what works for one phone might not work for the next. The only real fix will be to give things time to settle.

What's causing all of the UI LAG?

Coming from an almost 3 year old Google nexus 5 I was sure I was going to be blown away with the S7. Unfortunately so far i'm experiencing UI LAG all over the place.
Examples:
I can be changing system settings and things will hang and not respond to the first screen touch input.
Multitasking is odd too, sometimes I'll switch back and forth between 2 apps to copy and paste and the app I was just in has to reload, how is that possible with 4GB?
Somehow in both the stock "Internet" browser and chrome, websites with semi rich contact will chug (this one in particular chugs when you scroll past any add).
The camera app is fantastic as far as feature set and quality, but switching between and side swiping into pictures to review them and back is a crippling experience.
I am hoping that Samsung will release an update to address these basic issues, I can't imagine this processor not having enough power to blow through these situations, benchmark and memory speed is off the charts.

It takes a while to swipe from gallery to camera, slower than just to click camera oddly enough.
Cant comment on the ads on xda. I block ads.
The rest of those issues I have never seen.

It's TouchWiz man, what did you expect? Even if they put 32GB RAM in it the multitasking will be bad, it is software related, not hardware.. I have a Nexus 5x and multitasking is amazing with only 2GB of RAM.

Yup I agree. Came from 5x myself and it blows the S7 out of the water in regards to multitasking.
Already rooted my S7 and now waiting 'patiently' for the first custom roms.
I know from experience with the S6 that a good (clean and debloated) custom rom + kernel + DHA changes makes all the difference.
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you could try turning off animations in the developer settings

That's one of the very first things I turn off (no animations) after first boot of phone.
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Coming from the Nexus scene I know the wiz is known to be a stumbling joke, and I guess some reviews convinced me they had fixed their act up by now. IMO the multitasking is unacceptable, and since I have the tmobile locked BL version I can only pray that Samsung fixes it in an update.
Another annoying thing I found is if you try touch input right before an animation actually finishes it ignores the touch input, as if it's designed to do that. I'm just used to a much more "fluid" experience than this.
*Just turned animations off and it seems to have solved some issues. Is it possible to block ads (modify hosts file) without root?

What I personally don't get is the very choppy multitasking performance (one tile at a time) on my S7 and definitely not as smooth as in LP (on Samsung S6, Note 5, Note 4).
At the same time I see in the new S7 review from MKBHD that multitasking is supersmooth (as it was before). See for yourself approx 2:50 in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgeM6DsV40
Several users on Dutch forum have also indicated some have choppy performance, and some have completely smooth scrolling.
All have 'no animations' set within Developers Menu.
How can it be such a huge difference per phone...?

There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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daffie said:
What I personally don't get is the very choppy multitasking performance (one tile at a time) on my S7 and definitely not as smooth as in LP (on Samsung S6, Note 5, Note 4).
At the same time I see in the new S7 review from MKBHD that multitasking is supersmooth (as it was before). See for yourself approx 2:50 in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sgeM6DsV40
Several users on Dutch forum have also indicated some have choppy performance, and some have completely smooth scrolling.
All have 'no animations' set within Developers Menu.
How can it be such a huge difference per phone...?
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.

I don't have lag on my gs7

Toss3 said:
There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
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I'm fairly sure it'll already be using F2FS. I mean, I don't know for sure, but F2FS is Samsung's code.

Toss3 said:
There are definitely some microstutters here and there, but I don't get any hangs or major slowdowns though, nor any app reloads for that matter (did some build.prop editing though). But the first firmware is usually really slow due to Samsung sacrificing performance for stability before the launch, and it is definitely going to improve once we get to the second or third firmware revision (has been this way for every Galaxy-device ever). Eagerly waiting for a custom kernel to enable F2FS as that could improve the stuttering a fair bit.
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People use different settings and some even allow Google and Samsung to continuously collect data in the background which could explain why some people have horrible battery-life while others don't. Had to set up my friend's S7 Edge from scratch because he was getting somewhere around 2-3 hours of screen on time. So don't agree to anything when setting everything up and you probably won't have any issues.
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My remarks are very specifically and exclusively in regards to the weird choppy multitasking when swiping through the app tiles. This used to be buttery smooth...just flick your finger and the apps roll by continuously. Now it's one app/tiles at a time...that's what I mean by choppy.
And the wierd thing is some users have this on their phone, and others don't.
Now that I mention this...I am running 6.0.1. Could it be other users are still on 6.0? That could explain it...
Anyway...like you say...eagerly awaiting custom roms and kernels. Maybe even some specific DHA settings to improve RAM management (it's alreadyy much better than on stock S6, but still could be improved).

Hey Guys,
Read over the comments and I thought I'd chime in here. So lets get something straight here. SAMSUNG UI WILL LAG. Unfortunate but true, TouchWiz will have a lag, stutter or hiccup here and there when doing some things. I've experienced this myself (and I always look for lag, like its my job). Scrolling through FB and sometimes Instagram will have a stutter or be a bit choppy when scrolling through (normal for multiple reasons, but particular due to lack of optimization). Browser wise, a very better job but this too can have a stutter or two, perfectly normal. Again the UI can cause this. Despite these issues, I'm loving the phone and its features, easily the best the device I had. I had to root my S5 so many times and over clock it for it even to get close to smooth.
The S7 again is a great device my only gripe is battery life while in use. Standby time is pretty great but not so much when in use. Though I haven't tested my screen on time as of yet, I would bet I'd be maxing out around 3.5 hours. Hoping some firmware updates can help with this though. If your device is over heating, not acting correctly, or you feel its different from other models when you play around with them, take it back in for a new one or replacement. If my S7 had some of these issues, I would do that to ensure I'm happy and have the item I want.
I hope this helps those worrying about getting this device or who have this item but feel they're having too many issues.

Seriously, my desktop pc with gtx970 core I5 and 16Gb RAM also stutters and lags some times.. NO device with an OS will ever be lag or stutter free! My s7 edge actually does better in Samsung browser than chrome on my PC! Comon guys this is not even a problem FFS!

I have no lag. Phone is super fast.

MattBooth said:
I'm fairly sure it'll already be using F2FS. I mean, I don't know for sure, but F2FS is Samsung's code.
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It's EXT4 for some reason. Not sure why samsung wouldn't use their own filesystem, especially when it is so much faster.

johanbiff said:
Seriously, my desktop pc with gtx970 core I5 and 16Gb RAM also stutters and lags some times.. NO device with an OS will ever be lag or stutter free! My s7 edge actually does better in Samsung browser than chrome on my PC! Comon guys this is not even a problem FFS!
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Umm then you really should do something about that as my i7 4770K/GTX 980ti never stutters. Maybe you have faulty AHCI drivers or something? You really should check your system with a latency-tool to identify the causes of those lags.

I am experiencing the lag on a brand new s7. Turned off animations, but this has no effect on the stuttering in chrome.. I also notice a very janky transition when flipping through images on droidiris.. this worked perfectly on my old nexus 5 (non-x version)

PunishedSnake said:
I don't have lag on my gs7
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me neither. i'm on the SD820 and it handles my apps very well.
daffie said:
Yup I agree. Came from 5x myself and it blows the S7 out of the water in regards to multitasking.
Already rooted my S7 and now waiting 'patiently' for the first custom roms.
I know from experience with the S6 that a good (clean and debloated) custom rom + kernel + DHA changes makes all the difference.
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the 5x is very good at this for 2gb ram, i'm very impressed. i like the lowlight camera on the 5x better than s7

suchavibrantthang said:
me neither. i'm on the SD820 and it handles my apps very well.
the 5x is very good at this for 2gb ram, i'm very impressed. i like the lowlight camera on the 5x better than s7
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Yesterday I decided to buy the 5X again as I do miss that phone...especially the clean Android experience (plus very regular updates).
Still the S7 is a beast of a phone (and a keeper). Awaiting custom roms...

Overall speed

Would you say that the Honor 7X is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Honor 7X exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

No Problem with any performance and flies with the usage

Fantastic. Superb performance in this price range. Sometimes small lags is there but thats only if i applied any heavy modded themes. If we use stock themes no issues for me. Overall very happy with the speed. Never got any delay in any apps. Superb....

Day to day performance is great

Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out

You have to give the permission to file explorer & then you can install the app from file explorer doesn't work if you install from UC browser or other platforms directly.

Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356

Spillunke said:
Is XDA_RealLifeReview a real XDA-mod or just a normal user?
I mean, he starts threads in every phone section wit the same questions per copy&paste.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/review/overall-speed-t3701250
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/overall-speed-t3685573
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/overall-speed-t3646088
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/review/overall-speed-t3430716
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/review/overall-speed-t3400046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/review/overall-speed-t3645715
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/review/overall-speed-t3687356
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lol bot!!

Not good for heavy gaming.

crayonicle said:
Not good for heavy gaming.
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what if we play mini millitia

daalap10 said:
what if we play mini millitia
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never heard of the game, get the phone and try it out then

My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit

Hakeem5 said:
My 3gb USA model gets me from day to day operations but suffers from severe freezing/lag at random times while browsing the web or viewing social media. I barely see any forums mentioning similar behavior so I'm starting to think I need to factory reset or I have a defective unit
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Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.

joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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Yeah I feel like I'm in the twilight zone when I see people saying the speed is fine with minimal lag. That what leads me to think we may have defective units. With the Honor 6x I've seen people say that a factory reset fixed their issues.

Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.

joho5 said:
Much better after factory reset. Slows still from time to time but no just stand still freezes. Bearable. I want this phone with these features with flagship internals though still. Thinking the view 10 may fit that when it comes to US.
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OK thanks for the update, I will reset mine this weekend and will also be anticipating the View 10, especially if the price is right.

ya
Crackeds said:
Some APK`s i cant install, don`t know why, install Button is greyed out
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ya i am also facing the same problem when i am using third party application it shows gray button to install and i am not able to instal the app

Better performance.
I've found that disabling many of the Honor and EMUI apps (via Package Disabler or other methods) has made a huge difference in speed as well as battery life personally.

I've also experienced seemingly random slowdowns. Facebook seems to trigger it alot. clearing open apps speeds it back up.
Interestingly, it seems like it could be a ram issue, but i've never seen less than 1gb free ram, usually about 1.4gb free
I'll try disabling the emui/huawei apps to see if that helps.
I can't wait for oreo and project treble, then i can run regular aosp based without the emui bs.

joho5 said:
Mine does this. Will basically freeze and not let me do anything. Does it often. I guess I will reset and see what happens.
Love the phone but can't handle the lag.
I'm stumped by people that say it's fast with no issues.
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They probably post after only using it a few days. Mine was fine at first. After about a week sometimes it would freeze, especially if I'd recently used facebook and chrome the keyboard would struggle. I'd need to either wait or kill a few apps and it would go back to being okay.
The stock camera software has a lot of features, but it is waaaaaay to slow.
I needed a new phone, but we had a lot of expenses last year and so I bought something cheap. It's not terrible. I'll be happy to get a year out of it.

Ram management

What to enable or disable to make it less aggressive?

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Hi,
I have the same problem and it is f*** annoying! I have the 8GB version of the OP7pro and I don't know why the phone always closes my apps after a certain amount of time. I have disabled all (as far as I know) battery optimization features and also disabled the RAM booster.
In parallel I still run a Galaxy Note 3 with a really old custom rom, which has started to act a bit buggy now, but this phone does not overwrite MY settings and kills apps I want to keep open.
Does anyone know how to get rid of this behavior? Or is the only way to flash a custom rom again? I don't know if it is related to Oxygen OS or Android 9.
Thanks
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This is the problem with Chinese oems. Aggressive ram management, notification problems, not quite there cameras. Having the hardware is one thing. Software r & d is something else.

Can't remember exactly where I read it but...OnePlus is supposedly working on an update to "fix" the problem with aggressive killing of background apps as a result of all the complaints they receive concerning this issue. Something that can possibly help along with shutting off all battery/ram management is to lock your open apps to keep them open. While scrolling through your open apps you will see a three dot menu in the top right corner and one of the options is to "lock" the app which is supposed to lock it in memory/RAM. YMMV

jaseman said:
Can't remember exactly where I read it but...OnePlus is supposedly working on an update to "fix" the problem with aggressive killing of background apps as a result of all the complaints they receive concerning this issue. Something that can possibly help along with shutting off all battery/ram management is to lock your open apps to keep them open. While scrolling through your open apps you will see a three dot menu in the top right corner and one of the options is to "lock" the app which is supposed to lock it in memory/RAM. YMMV
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Are we sure this isn't a Pie issue? I just came from a pixel 3xl and had the same issues in the beginning. Everyone blamed the 4gb RAM as the culprit. Google eventually updated a Fix but it wasn't 100% fixed. It was better but apps still closed to early. So maybe we're looking at an Android problem. Who knows
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tropical cactus said:
This is the problem with Chinese oems. Aggressive ram management, notification problems, not quite there cameras. Having the hardware is one thing. Software r & d is something else.
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This is totally crap, I switched from my Note 3, which I still like very much (but only with AOSP based custom ROM) to OP because I don't like the way Samsung and Huawei gone to. I'm not rooted right now, so I can not tell what can be done with Magisk Modules or Xposed Modules (or other mods) on a Oxygen based ROM.
Can someone tell if this behavior can be stopped with mods or is the only way to switch to an AOSP based ROM again?
I wanted to give Oxygen OS a try but right now I'm not fully convinced with the current situation, even if OP is one of the fastest supplier for updates. I don't like it, when a manufacturer tells me what I can do with a device and what not. At least OP should give me the choice how strict the RAM management is and when I want to get apps closed.
Missing notifications is one other big point. Due to the fact that there is no notification LED and no AOD (STILL) I tried several third party apps to get a AOD, but the battery drain on this apps is heavy as f*** and they often do not work correctly, because the system prevents them to run correctly.
Does anyone know a good way to get a reliable way for notifications?
Thanks.
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General-Pain-666 said:
This is totally crap, I switched from my Note 3, which I still like very much (but only with AOSP based custom ROM) to OP because I don't like the way Samsung and Huawei gone to. I'm not rooted right now, so I can not tell what can be done with Magisk Modules or Xposed Modules (or other mods) on a Oxygen based ROM.
Can someone tell if this behavior can be stopped with mods or is the only way to switch to an AOSP based ROM again?
I wanted to give Oxygen OS a try but right now I'm not fully convinced with the current situation, even if OP is one of the fastest supplier for updates. I don't like it, when a manufacturer tells me what I can do with a device and what not. At least OP should give me the choice how strict the RAM management is and when I want to get apps closed.
Missing notifications is one other big point. Due to the fact that there is no notification LED and no AOD (STILL) I tried several third party apps to get a AOD, but the battery drain on this apps is heavy as f*** and they often do not work correctly, because the system prevents them to run correctly.
Does anyone know a good way to get a reliable way for notifications?
Thanks.
GP
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Not only that. 3rd party apps like notification buddy work but Google Assistant stops working once you install it. I don't know what GA has to do with notification lighting. It's supposed to be a phone first and foremost. OnePlus seems to have forgotten what it is they're making. Something as basic as missed notifications seems not terribly important to them.

tropical cactus said:
Not only that. 3rd party apps like notification buddy work but Google Assistant stops working once you install it. I don't know what GA has to do with notification lighting. It's supposed to be a phone first and foremost. OnePlus seems to have forgotten what it is they're making. Something as basic as missed notifications seems not terribly important to them.
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I agree. Samsung and Huawei show that AOD can work without heavy battery drain, so why can't OP get this to work or can they but don't want it?
I will root the device and have a look what I can optimize.
What I cannot change (unfortunately I had no chance to hands on the device before I bought it) is the size and the weight. It is to big and way to heavy. Not only while taking a phone call, even if you just hold it in one hand and do some stuff, it gets heavy within a very short time.
Maybe this OP was my first and last one - I will see. But it seems that all devices get bigger and heavier with every iteration, which is totally insane.

smallsmx301 said:
Are we sure this isn't a Pie issue? I just came from a pixel 3xl and had the same issues in the beginning. Everyone blamed the 4gb RAM as the culprit. Google eventually updated a Fix but it wasn't 100% fixed. It was better but apps still closed to early. So maybe we're looking at an Android problem. Who knows
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It's definitely a pie thing as Android 10 had much better ram management even on pixel 2xl with 4gb ram. I suspect it will resolve most of our problems.

General-Pain-666 said:
I agree. Samsung and Huawei show that AOD can work without heavy battery drain, so why can't OP get this to work or can they but don't want it?
I will root the device and have a look what I can optimize.
What I cannot change (unfortunately I had no chance to hands on the device before I bought it) is the size and the weight. It is to big and way to heavy. Not only while taking a phone call, even if you just hold it in one hand and do some stuff, it gets heavy within a very short time.
Maybe this OP was my first and last one - I will see. But it seems that all devices get bigger and heavier with every iteration, which is totally insane.
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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.

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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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You're on Beta software...what do you expect? I'm on stable and all is working fine. I'm on T-Mobile but using an unlocked 7 Pro purchased from OnePlus directly.

jaseman said:
You're on Beta software...what do you expect? I'm on stable and all is working fine. I'm on T-Mobile but using an unlocked 7 Pro purchased from OnePlus directly.
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Did you actually read what I wrote? The experience has improved on android 10.

i had the s10+ and i couldnt deal with the half bakes software. so oneplus was the natural choice for me.
sure the speakers arent the best but theyre plenty fine - its not like we use our speakers for hidef sound, wireless headphones or a jukebox can take care of the rest (i have these strategically placed around the house so its never an issue when i play music)
failing AOD, dt2w is just as good imo.

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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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i had the s10+ and i couldnt deal with the half bakes software. so oneplus was the natural choice for me.
sure the speakers arent the best but theyre plenty fine - its not like we use our speakers for hidef sound, wireless headphones or a jukebox can take care of the rest (i have these strategically placed around the house so its never an issue when i play music)
failing AOD, dt2w is just as good imo.
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If you use Magisk, make sure to flash Ainur Sauron. That's an absolute game-changer for audio quality. I can't say the audio will quite compare to the Note 9 (I own it), but it should be fairly comparable to the S10+ (Have two in the family). The Note 9 has the advantage of actual front-facing speakers since it has bezel.
If you want to use Viper or JamesDSP, you'll need to also flash AML in Magisk which allows for multiple audio mods to be integrated. If you want a simple flash and away w/o further customization, then just flash Ainur Sauron.

Thank you. Good recommendation

7 pro getting slower?

Hi guys.
I recently switched to OnePlus ( 7 pro specifically ) and out of all the phones I've used, XS max, note 10, S10 ECT it's by far the best phone I've used. Although 1 small problem is lately my phone has been feeling like it's getting slower and slower, more and more lags seems to be happening, and things are taking a lot longer to open. Is anyone else experiencing this, or have any ideas what I could do?
Thanks in advance.

I have never experienced this. Best I could think of is to factory reset, start completely from scratch. Maybe root and try a custom kernel.

GeekMcLeod said:
I have never experienced this. Best I could think of is to factory reset, start completely from scratch. Maybe root and try a custom kernel.
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Yeah I've thought of that. I've only used 50% of my storage so I don't think that would be the case. My last resort was a factory reset and custom kernels/Roms ECT. I'll see what other ideas people have first then see how we go from there I think

Okay so I installed Beta 7 and it seems to be a bit better, still not as good as it was when I first purchased it though

Are you running android 10 or 9? I'm sticking with 9 because i had issues with 10 (so do many others) No signs of slowdown here. Ive played with a note 10 and it doesnt compare to the op7 pro in terms of performance.

equlizer said:
Are you running android 10 or 9? I'm sticking with 9 because i had issues with 10 (so do many others) No signs of slowdown here. Ive played with a note 10 and it doesnt compare to the op7 pro in terms of performance.
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I'm on 10, have thought about changing back to 9 but there's quite a few things I enjoy about 10, except the slowness.
Don't get me wrong when I first opened my 7 pro, my other devices including my S10 didn't even feel like they were in the same ball park, but now it just feels like it's getting sluggish.

I've had freezing and its only 2 months old

Shipoftheline said:
I've had freezing and its only 2 months old
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I've had a couple of things freeze for about 20 seconds then it comes good again.

Just a thought, based on something I've experienced... Are you using Magisk Hide by chance? I've noticed that some apps (Google for instance) react poorly to being targeted by Magisk Manager.

aussiesausage said:
Hi guys.
I recently switched to OnePlus ( 7 pro specifically ) and out of all the phones I've used, XS max, note 10, S10 ECT it's by far the best phone I've used. Although 1 small problem is lately my phone has been feeling like it's getting slower and slower, more and more lags seems to be happening, and things are taking a lot longer to open. Is anyone else experiencing this, or have any ideas what I could do?
Thanks in advance.
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get havoc rom, all that trash will disappear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/development/rom-havoc-os-2-6-t3942337
also, sams has the worst software on android platforms.

Tardeaux said:
Just a thought, based on something I've experienced... Are you using Magisk Hide by chance? I've noticed that some apps (Google for instance) react poorly to being targeted by Magisk Manager.
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I'm not rooted, just stock Android 10.

It would really help by giving more info on what exactly you mean by "sluggishness". Are you saying general app opening speed/ sluggishness when typing emails/ slow bootup speeds? Where really is the problem...for all you know it could be a placebo effect or btw have you checked the screen refresh rate...is it 90hz or 60hz? Being on 90hz for so long, any other phone to me looks sluggish...

amirage said:
It would really help by giving more info on what exactly you mean by "sluggishness". Are you saying general app opening speed/ sluggishness when typing emails/ slow bootup speeds? Where really is the problem...for all you know it could be a placebo effect or btw have you checked the screen refresh rate...is it 90hz or 60hz? Being on 90hz for so long, any other phone to me looks sluggish...
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The whole phone, everything I do, nothing is instant anymore. And yes it's on 90hz, I agree I used my S10 the other day and it looked terrible scrolling through stuff compared to 90hz

I second the OP. I have an OP 7 Pro, 12GB version. And after software updates etc, I have seen slowness on my phone. However, after root and running FDE.AI once, looks much better. I have no documentation to prove that actually is the case though, maybe a placebo effect.

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The whole phone, everything I do, nothing is instant anymore. And yes it's on 90hz, I agree I used my S10 the other day and it looked terrible scrolling through stuff compared to 90hz
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Funny, I can't see such sluggishness on my OP7Pro. It will be a joke to see sluggishness on these phones given that the phone specs are nothing short of desktop-level specs. I would highly recommend factory resetting your device or better yet starting right from scratch i.e. doing a fastboot stock rom flash using the latest update. This should (hopefully) iron out your issues. I'd also suggest being a bit careful on the apps that you install and rather not restore from google backups. It's best to start afresh (at least once in a while)

Just curious... Have you tried shutting off the animations or at sped them up?
I scaled mine down to 0 and my device is blazing fast now.

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Funny, I can't see such sluggishness on my OP7Pro. It will be a joke to see sluggishness on these phones given that the phone specs are nothing short of desktop-level specs. I would highly recommend factory resetting your device or better yet starting right from scratch i.e. doing a fastboot stock rom flash using the latest update. This should (hopefully) iron out your issues. I'd also suggest being a bit careful on the apps that you install and rather not restore from google backups. It's best to start afresh (at least once in a while)
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That is my plan providing I can't do anything without factoring resetting.
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Just curious... Have you tried shutting off the animations or at sped them up?
I scaled mine down to 0 and my device is blazing fast now.
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No I haven't actually, I'll give that a go and see how I go

If you've used up 50% of your storage then of course the phone will be processing things slower than a phone that had nothing stored in it. That effect occurs with every device that has memory.

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If you've used up 50% of your storage then of course the phone will be processing things slower than a phone that had nothing stored in it. That effect occurs with every device that has memory.
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Well I've been at over 70% storage used for the past few months and have seen zero drop in performance. My pixel 2 xl is 80% storage used and it to performs as if it was bone stock. I have over 100 apps on my OP7 pro and haven't lost anything that I didn't have in terms of battery and performance. I swear I don't know what some people do with there phones but issues like these and battery usually come from poorly coded apps. You also can't download PornHub mobile and expect it not to come with consequence of some sort.

GeeAyeZee said:
If you've used up 50% of your storage then of course the phone will be processing things slower than a phone that had nothing stored in it. That effect occurs with every device that has memory.
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I've had multiple devices where I've used well over 50% storage and never had any issues.
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Well I've been at over 70% storage used for the past few months and have seen zero drop in performance. My pixel 2 xl is 80% storage used and it to performs as if it was bone stock. I have over 100 apps on my OP7 pro and haven't lost anything that I didn't have in terms of battery and performance. I swear I don't know what some people do with there phones but issues like these and battery usually come from poorly coded apps. You also can't download PornHub mobile and expect it not to come with consequence of some sort.
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There's a pornhub mobile app? I didn't even know, cheers ???
Kidding, but serious. I am not sure what's happening, maybe I have some app that's causing stupid issues I am not sure, I think I'm gonna factory reset and go from there I think.