Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?
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Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.
I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough.
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I just now picked up my Nexus 5x and shook it, and it seems you are correct - it makes a rattling sound also (as if something is loose). It's not surprising though, considering how many times I've dropped/tossed it, both accidentally and purposefully. I wonder if it made that noise when I first got it...
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Yes, replacement is same
I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.
cb474 said:
I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.
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Haptic feedback
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Tidbits said:
Haptic feedback.
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Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)
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Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)
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I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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Tidbits said:
I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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I didn't say haptic feedback, you said haptic feedback.
I also clearly said that it was the same type of noise coming from both the top and bottom of the phone, which means it would have to be the speakers, since that's the only thing there are two of, one in each of those positions. And I said that I had the same type of noise coming from the earpiece on my Nexus 4. So the whole point of my first post was that I was ruling out OIS, which others had suggested, and felt pretty confident the sound comes from the speakers. I wasn't looking for suggestions. I was explaining my reasoning for why it seems like it's the speakers that make the sound.
guysalami said:
Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.
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My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Why are you saying its fine when its not? lol... other phones with OIS don't make the noise.. Stop justifying for google's manufacturing defects.
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My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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As I explain in my posts, I think the slight rattling noise actually comes from the speakers, not the OIS. I think the OIS guess is wrong. I've explain my reasons in more detail above.
However, in order to get the sound you have to tap the edge of the phone in just the right place and just the right way. It's easy to shake or tap the phone and not get the sound at all. So I'm pretty sure I could get this sound on all of the phones you mentioned. In fact, next time I'm in a carrier store I'll try the S8. I think it's just something speakers do. I've tried several different model phones and they all do it.
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Hey all, I love the phone but I've noticed a quirk and I would like to see if anyone else has been experiencing it. When the phone vibrates sometimes there is an extra rattle, almost as if something is loose. It only rattles when its at a certain angle though, not all the time. Has anyone else experienced this with their phone? I'm trying to see if I should go exchange it or not.
For what it's worth, I haven't noticed it.
In case, out of case?
Sometimes the lip of my Body Glove case will rattle a tiny bit. Simply touching the case stops this of course, since it's not my phone but a surface adjacent to it.
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In case, out of case?
Sometimes the lip of my Body Glove case will rattle a tiny bit. Simply touching the case stops this of course, since it's not my phone but a surface adjacent to it.
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Nope, out of a case. Just the bare phone.
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Nope, out of a case. Just the bare phone.
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I think I know what you're talking about. If you tap the phone does it do the same thing? If so, I did notice it in mine as well. Also, when I put it down sometimes I would hear a little vibration. I think it's just the design of the phone.
I get the rattle and it's annoying. Not going to do anything about it but it's nice to hear I'm not alone.
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I think I know what you're talking about. If you tap the phone does it do the same thing? If so, I did notice it in mine as well. Also, when I put it down sometimes I would hear a little vibration. I think it's just the design of the phone.
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Is it near the camera? I can hear it as well, it sounds like when you tap near the cam it either rattles the metal backplate or it is directly hitting the camera assembly, I'd avoid doing it if I was use.
The body glove case helps, but if you tap it'll still make a noise
You're not alone. I actually noticed this shortly after I bought it. Posted about in the at&t forums. I even went to the store to play with the displays. The displays also made the same noise.
I can't post a link but if you search for "Captivate has a rattle" in the at&t Samsung forums you'll find my thread.
you are not alone... it feel like the vibrator motor is loose... it fells just like my iphone 3g... which has a motor loose ..
I hear the rattle as well. I believe its coming from the sd card tray in the back. Hopefully when putting an sd card in itll go away.
I have an SD card in and don't hear any rattles. However, I also lowered my vibration intensity a couple notches.
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I have an SD card in and don't hear any rattles. However, I also lowered my vibration intensity a couple notches.
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Tap the back next to the speaker and see if you can hear it. Hopefully having the sd in there helped.
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I've never heard anything even remotely like a rattle from mine, and I have vibration intensity maxed and swype set to vibrate on keypress, so I get lots of vibration. I've had the SD card in and out of it a lot, but no difference. No vibration. Guess I got a good one.
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Tap the back next to the speaker and see if you can hear it. Hopefully having the sd in there helped.
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Don't hear anything except my finger tapping the back.
Ummm Guys, sorry to rain on the parade....but if you can replicate the rattle by tapping on the speaker (which on a Galaxy S phone, Nexus One, Desire is right next to the camera), the rattle is the little Auto Focus assist system being gently lodged-dislodged (motor + spring setup).
The AF requires slight freeplay to allow it to focus in and out when using the camera.....sorry but the rattle wont go away....its also normal. Try any camera phone with AF Assist and tap near or vertically on top of the lens.... .
Personally My Nokia N82 from eons ago was the loudest of all. I havent got a Captivate (you lucky Yanks) so I could be way off the mark but my desire rattles too (as did my nexus one) when tapped or on vibrate.
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+1 auto-focus mountings.. makes sense.
For those wishing to replicate: with or without case, tap directly below the camera, and horizontally beside the speaker, with the phone near your ear. You'll hear a little tiny rattle. I didn't notice it until I went tapping away to find it.
Thanks for the replies. After tapping the back of my phone I believe I can detect a faint clicking sound. It's odd how loud that becomes when the phone vibrates, it's magnitudes louder than the normal vibration sound.
Maybe I'll go to my local electronics store and play with some models since I used to work there and I still have the connections for it.
yeah... no rattle here..
Significant rattle during vibration makes sense....its to do with the frequency of vibration of AF and phone chassis being in sync....i.e. close to resonance. Betcha its louder face up OR face down, and on a hard surface.
The other possibility is the metal battery cover vibrating as well
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Hello Everyone,
I recently bought a Captivate. I noticed the same issue when using the vibrate setting on the phone - phone rings, and the vibrate is extremely loud (other people really shouldn't be able to hear it).
I thought it was that particular handset - so I went back to AT&T and exchanged it. Sure enough, this one has the same issue.
The one weird thing I've noticed is that changing the Haptic Feedback setting (the vibrate intensity for it) seems to affect the button that you use if you pull the notifications bar down. (Drop the vibrate intensity to 0, and you'll notice that the Vibrate button in the notifications bar does not vibrate when you turn it on). However, this doesn't seem to influence the way the phone vibrates when you get a call, text message, etc.
Any idea what the disconnect could be between the vibrate setting in the Notifications bar, and the actual vibrate intensity?
I'm inclined to think this is software, rather than the phone itself having a physical flaw that causes it to vibrate louder. If the setting in the notification bar didn't vary - I would be quicker to assume that it's hardware...
Recently my phone which has a screw off, and if you shaking the phone you can hear the unpleasant sound. :crying::crying::crying:
I had seen S6 disassemble video on youtube, i feel amazing for that. So the question is where can i buy those tools like the suction and many screwdriver.
Ifixit.com has the tools and the how to guides for most phones
LOLWOWJason said:
Recently my phone which has a screw off, and if you shaking the phone you can hear the unpleasant sound. :crying::crying::crying:
I had seen S6 disassemble video on youtube, i feel amazing for that. So the question is where can i buy those tools like the suction and many screwdriver.
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Before you start disassembling your S6, are you sure it's a loose screw your hearing rattling around?
If I shake my S6 I hear a rattling sound too. I thought it was something loose, turns out the noise is coming from the camera.
The Lens floats around shake your phone and then look at the camera you will notice it's never perfectly centered and it moves around as you shake the phone.
You can thank OIS for the rattling sound
You can buy from ebay, I bought one recently and it works great, I can share you the link if you need.
my camera is OK,but the sound it still there
Gboss01 said:
Before you start disassembling your S6, are you sure it's a loose screw your hearing rattling around?
If I shake my S6 I hear a rattling sound too. I thought it was something loose, turns out the noise is coming from the camera.
The Lens floats around shake your phone and then look at the camera you will notice it's never perfectly centered and it moves around as you shake the phone.
You can thank OIS for the rattling sound
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Thank you for your reply! My camera is OK, and when i shake my s6 the sound that sound like a screw rattling around is still there.
I cannot bear that.. A seemingly high-end sophisticated phone have a small screw shake voice, I was disappointed to assembly of Samsung.
can you show the link?
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You can buy from ebay, I bought one recently and it works great, I can share you the link if you need.
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Thank you!
It is very useful for the repair I did on my cellphone.
I bought these to help me replace a couple of dead cellphone screens.
Highly recommended if you're going to DIY.
Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123DAZWO
Thank you!
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It is very useful for the repair I did on my cellphone.
I bought these to help me replace a couple of dead cellphone screens.
Highly recommended if you're going to DIY.
Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123DAZWO
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Thank you for your recommend!
Thank you for your recommend
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Ifixit.com has the tools and the how to guides for most phones
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I will to choose some tools!
I'm all for DIY fixits, but is there a reason why you cannot take it back to Samsung or to your carrier to get it fixed? It might be safer this way.
Open camera app and shake again. Does it still rattle? I thought I damaged my phone or there is a screw loose but then I read that the rattling sound has something to do with the ois. When camera is off it can move a bit but when camera is started it fixes itself and I can't hear a noise anymore.
If it still rattles the same when phone is off and when camera app is started, you should try to go far warranty.
Has anyone noticed that the bottom speaker volume is lower than the top one (ear peace) when playing music? or is it only me?
I did not notice it before because I always use headsets but today I spilled some juice on it and washed it under the sink water after that I played some music just to see what's up and noticed this uneven volume coming out from both speakers. I will let it dry and see if it was the cause but has anyone else noticed that?
And if you are talking on the phone using speakers only bottom one works. Is it normal?
Yes they are different but I think it's intentional because not only is the volume different, but they each put out different kinds of sound if you notice.
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Yes they are different but I think it's intentional because not only is the volume different, but they each put out different kinds of sound if you notice.
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Yeah I did notice the output of the sound is different from each speaker. I already thought I have faulty unit and wanted to return it but now you saved my worry <3 Thank you.
I wouldn't say that it's intentional as if Sony wanted both speakers to be different. It's normal though and to be expected because the speakers aren't identical. The top speaker is of higher quality.
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I wouldn't say that it's intentional as if Sony wanted both speakers to be different. It's normal though and to be expected because the speakers aren't identical. The top speaker is of higher quality.
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I just wanted to know if I am not the only one with such situation. As I mentioned before I did not notice it until I used it. Thank you for replying.
My camera is really rattly and doesnt secure in the closed position!
Its ****ing disgusting of a sound when I put in down on a table, is this normal?
Really kills ALL fun I can have with this device
Mine seems pretty OK. No rattling when I control the camera.
There might be some quality control issues. I've seen a few mention rattling but most say theirs is fine. So with that in mind it sounds like you risk having to RMA the device when you get it.
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
The same problem with my flipcam.
Mine works fine.
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My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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I was thinking into a similar direction... Good to hear this works.
facepalm lol
Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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Duct tape on a phone? 2019.?
No thanks
My camera is firm and doesnt rattle, it does make some noise when the camera moves but thats to be expected I think.
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Difficult to say with such a small sample size.
Could be 1%, 5%, 20%, 50% or 90% with issues. The quality control might get better or the mechanism might just have that bad yields. So right now we have to assume it's either a small number of devices or first batch problems. I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.
T I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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jaseman said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Yes and it isn't comparable.
This is a quality control issue from the factory. I haven't heard anyone say it started rattling later (nor does it seem there would be time to start breaking the device through regular use unless it's sensitive and starts rattling from dust and debris).
The Fold worked fine at the factory and testing in a controlled environment did not reveal the fragility of the design. Otherwise we may as well bring up Note 7 too. That's also a design flaw.
Since not all models rattle it isn't necessarily a design flaw but one of quality and yields. Of course Asus is welcome to make a statement on what causes the issue.
Mine also rattle when put down on table and same with just tapping the screen. Otherwise it is good. Weird that no review mentioned this, not even tech tablets. If the phone didn't cost 570 euro, but 250 euro I would not mind, but I'm going to return it, it is unacceptable for the price.
Mine doesn't rattle when closed, but also doesn't open fully. It sits at a slight angle when open, so I have to press "volume up" for a second to straighten it. As far as I can see there's no calibration tool for camera angle. This might help solve both problems.
Mine rattle to
the camera opens a little whenever I was fast walking with the phone in my pocket or when I wear lose pants but I fixed it by adding 2 strips of tape behind the camera :/
I found out that the rattle is coming from the hinge at the side where the volume buttons are
picked it up from table https://youtu.be/QcbjNwhLVIE ...
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To clarify - this is how it always is, but it happens - lets say once a day - camera just get _more_ loose by itself. I will create another video how it is all the time (it is still pretty bad in quiet environment) - but it will be harder to catch with one hand holding camera phone.
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Can other users of this phone confirm if it is a faulty unit or it is "normal" behaviour? Camera module seems to be wonky and loose, not firmly closed/locked. No reviewers mention this problem.
Mine moves a little bit too.
And 2 strips of tape help. I'm fine with it.
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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It's a spycam....no, just kidding, just kidding - it was reported to be a 3rd microphone for cutting out any background noise.
I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
A *white* hole?
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
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Some say a mic and some say a small speaker, waiting on reviews now
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Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.
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The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.
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Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.
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Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.
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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras
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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras
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Sorry dude, the video you're talking about doesn't exist, there's no mic next to or anywhere near the camera array.
The cutout in question is absolutely a mic, and the earpiece does indeed doubles as the secondary speaker.
Microphone
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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/
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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/
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This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.
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This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.
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I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic
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I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic
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You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.
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You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.
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I was curious too about the speaker placement and mic's location when Samsung unveiled devices. I wanted the top hole to be IR Blaster, but at least we get nicer sound. I doubt the earpiece slit would be enough to act as an upper speaker, but they Samsung came up with the idea of making additional hole on top Oh and I do remember some years ago when Nokia came out with zoom mic in their phone, the mics pointed towards the object, so that might explain why Samsung had to make a slit in the camera frame. Now that I have seen Note 10 in person, I am happy that I pre-ordered it. I don't think I would have done it if Samsung wouldn't offer $600 trade in for my S10e. I really don't like the idea of buying expensive phones, let alone replace them every year.
There's 3 microphones :
- top
- bottom
- in the bevel of the camera.