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Does it sound like your Camera lens (flash) is loose when shaking the phone?

it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...

aliensquale said:
it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
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yup this slight tapping noise from the top where the camera is located or in that area, how strange.... now you have set my OCD off! lol

Never noticed it before, but my guess would be SIM, SDCard, or battery moving around. They can't make the spaces exactly the same size as what goes into them due to manufacturing tolerances, so it could be that there is a little extra space for one of them that allows it to wiggle around some.

no it's not the sdcard, battery or sim card.. it sounds like something inside the camera area.. like by the lens or the camera flash is jiggling around inside..
hold your phone, shake it a little bit and see if you hear anything around that area..
does anybody else have this sound?

Jerks
Now I will never stop hearing that. I have to return the phone.
Mostly kidding, yeah, I hear it. Forget about it.

okay so it sounds like all of these phones make that noise huh?
I dropped my phone the other day in the sink (opps)... and after that is when I first noticied this sound.. so I don't know if it was like that from day one and I never noticied or if because I dropped it that caused it to start happening and then I was anal about the phone being okay after I dropped it thus that's when I noticied this sound..
you guys ever drop your phones? or you hear this from day one?

I havent dropped my phone and i can hear the sound.oh well not a big deal
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so I guess this is just how all of these Droid Charge's are brand new..

imnuts said:
Never noticed it before, but my guess would be SIM, SDCard, or battery moving around. They can't make the spaces exactly the same size as what goes into them due to manufacturing tolerances, so it could be that there is a little extra space for one of them that allows it to wiggle around some.
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Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.

mechanical engineer here... I give my designs to machinists to make every day...
damn you have thick hair.. mine is only .002"
Hughes4123 said:
Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
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Hughes4123 said:
Mine does too. As far as tolerances goes, I was a machinest for 10yrs. I've made everything from hip/knee implants to car parts. If they wanted to make it fit better they could. I use to work with +/-0005. One human hair is about .005.
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Well, while I agree with you about being able to make it better, you can't really compare machining tolerances to injection molding tolerances (which is how the bulk of this case was most likely made). There are a lot of factors that go into injection molding that you don't have to worry about with machining (draft angles for example).
Plus, they're making millions of these... the tolerances were probably created such that the probability of the parts not fitting together was reasonably low with respect to the price of each piece, so you can afford to scrap some units. Then there's the statistical variation from lot to lot, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
This is coming from experience in both areas. I'm a mechanical engineer who's designed both big honking machined metal parts and tiny intricate injection molded plastics.
In the end, they're only going to design and manufacture these parts as well as they need to. Sad truth.

true but regarding injection molding it's all how precise the mold is built... you build a mold right on the money, you get a part right on the money..
anyhow back on topic... I don't think it's the ejection molding, etc. that's making this noise.. it almost sounds like the camera lens or flash is lose or something inside the phone right behind the camera lens is moving around. I took the cover off and held the sd card, sim card, battery, etc. in place with my fingers, shook the phone and still hear this sound...
no big deal.. just a little annoying.. when you put the phone up to your ear to answer a call, etc. you can hear this rattling noise inside the phone..

I hear it too. I also hear a similar click, in the same area, when the phone boots up. no biggie though.
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aliensquale said:
mechanical engineer here... I give my designs to machinists to make every day...
damn you have thick hair.. mine is only .002"
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Heads up, you're going bald!

aliensquale said:
it sounds like when shaking the phone something is loose around the area of the back camera and/or flash light.. hard to pinpoint exactly where the sound is coming from but it really sounds like it's coming from around the camera.. if you jiggle the phone in your hand you can clearly hear this sound like something inside the phone is banging around...
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Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.

droidxscott said:
Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
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so it must be something to do with the auto focus?

Hear it also!
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Could be an orientation sensor, I remember a phone in the past use to have a tiny rattle to it and thats what it was.

you are right!!!! the sound goes away when you activate the camera app.. infact when you activate the camera app and hold the phone steady you can hear a single click noise from the camera... must be something with the focus, etc.
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Its definitely the camera, once you activate the camera app the sound is gone if you trying wiggling it around again. Very strange.
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I hear it too in my brand new Charge. It works great, camera does too. I'm pretty sure it has to do with image stabilization, which is an option in our default camera app. Image stabilization in cameras typically mounts the image sensor on a little rig that can move around independently of the camera body, and has some means of stabilizing it (usually gyroscopes and/or servos). My guess is that Samsung somehow figured out how to make some compact system for providing image stabilization (maybe a magnetorheological fluid?) for such a tiny sensor. I can't really guess how it works, but it does seem to work quite well in producing crisp images.
The fact that the camera rattles slightly all the time except when you're using the camera app would certainly seem to confirm this.

Rattle noise

Hi
Just bought a mate 7 and absolutely love it. One issue though. It rattles when shaken, as if something loose inside. Sound comes from the top ear speaker area. Any one else notice this??

sony83 said:
Hi
Just bought a mate 7 and absolutely love it. One issue though. It rattles when shaken, as if something loose inside. Sound comes from the top ear speaker area. Any one else notice this??
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I test it and I have that noise but it.s not loud, i must take the phone near the ear to hear it. I think it's normal.

Me too. Don't know what it is...

Good to know it's not just me. Must me normal then

Me too, but it is the first time I Have heard it...you really need to have your ear close..
Sounds like it comes from the upper part of the phone around the camera..

Don't think its the camera lens...sound more like a metal part moving about...I notice it when receiving or making calls. Bothered me a lot initially, but I'm over it..

Its the camera lens, it is fairly common and normal.
No need to worry, rattling occures cos of how the camera is built.

I have the same noise on my mate 7, i was worried at first but now i kinda dont care to be honest it works, and i have no problems for almost 3 months now.

I have the same thing, but its really really hard to hear... Even in a quiet room. Don't think it's a problem.
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morpheoussc400 said:
I have the same thing, but its really really hard to hear... Even in a quiet room. Don't think it's a problem.
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As long as you are not trying to use the phone as an maracas it is no problem.

Something loose inside pixel's body?

Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?

joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?
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Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.

I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough.
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I just now picked up my Nexus 5x and shook it, and it seems you are correct - it makes a rattling sound also (as if something is loose). It's not surprising though, considering how many times I've dropped/tossed it, both accidentally and purposefully. I wonder if it made that noise when I first got it...

Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol

giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Yes, replacement is same

I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.

cb474 said:
I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.
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Haptic feedback
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Tidbits said:
Haptic feedback.
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Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)

cb474 said:
Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)
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I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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Tidbits said:
I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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I didn't say haptic feedback, you said haptic feedback.
I also clearly said that it was the same type of noise coming from both the top and bottom of the phone, which means it would have to be the speakers, since that's the only thing there are two of, one in each of those positions. And I said that I had the same type of noise coming from the earpiece on my Nexus 4. So the whole point of my first post was that I was ruling out OIS, which others had suggested, and felt pretty confident the sound comes from the speakers. I wasn't looking for suggestions. I was explaining my reasoning for why it seems like it's the speakers that make the sound.

guysalami said:
Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.
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My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Why are you saying its fine when its not? lol... other phones with OIS don't make the noise.. Stop justifying for google's manufacturing defects.

LimitsX said:
My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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As I explain in my posts, I think the slight rattling noise actually comes from the speakers, not the OIS. I think the OIS guess is wrong. I've explain my reasons in more detail above.
However, in order to get the sound you have to tap the edge of the phone in just the right place and just the right way. It's easy to shake or tap the phone and not get the sound at all. So I'm pretty sure I could get this sound on all of the phones you mentioned. In fact, next time I'm in a carrier store I'll try the S8. I think it's just something speakers do. I've tried several different model phones and they all do it.

Camera mechanism very rattly, anyone else?

My camera is really rattly and doesnt secure in the closed position!
Its ****ing disgusting of a sound when I put in down on a table, is this normal?
Really kills ALL fun I can have with this device

Mine seems pretty OK. No rattling when I control the camera.

There might be some quality control issues. I've seen a few mention rattling but most say theirs is fine. So with that in mind it sounds like you risk having to RMA the device when you get it.

My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.

The same problem with my flipcam.

Mine works fine.

Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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I was thinking into a similar direction... Good to hear this works.

facepalm lol

Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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Duct tape on a phone? 2019.?
No thanks

My camera is firm and doesnt rattle, it does make some noise when the camera moves but thats to be expected I think.

Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.

jaseman said:
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Difficult to say with such a small sample size.
Could be 1%, 5%, 20%, 50% or 90% with issues. The quality control might get better or the mechanism might just have that bad yields. So right now we have to assume it's either a small number of devices or first batch problems. I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.

T I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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jaseman said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Yes and it isn't comparable.
This is a quality control issue from the factory. I haven't heard anyone say it started rattling later (nor does it seem there would be time to start breaking the device through regular use unless it's sensitive and starts rattling from dust and debris).
The Fold worked fine at the factory and testing in a controlled environment did not reveal the fragility of the design. Otherwise we may as well bring up Note 7 too. That's also a design flaw.
Since not all models rattle it isn't necessarily a design flaw but one of quality and yields. Of course Asus is welcome to make a statement on what causes the issue.

Mine also rattle when put down on table and same with just tapping the screen. Otherwise it is good. Weird that no review mentioned this, not even tech tablets. If the phone didn't cost 570 euro, but 250 euro I would not mind, but I'm going to return it, it is unacceptable for the price.

Mine doesn't rattle when closed, but also doesn't open fully. It sits at a slight angle when open, so I have to press "volume up" for a second to straighten it. As far as I can see there's no calibration tool for camera angle. This might help solve both problems.

Mine rattle to
the camera opens a little whenever I was fast walking with the phone in my pocket or when I wear lose pants but I fixed it by adding 2 strips of tape behind the camera :/
I found out that the rattle is coming from the hinge at the side where the volume buttons are

picked it up from table https://youtu.be/QcbjNwhLVIE ...
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To clarify - this is how it always is, but it happens - lets say once a day - camera just get _more_ loose by itself. I will create another video how it is all the time (it is still pretty bad in quiet environment) - but it will be harder to catch with one hand holding camera phone.

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picked it up from table
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Can other users of this phone confirm if it is a faulty unit or it is "normal" behaviour? Camera module seems to be wonky and loose, not firmly closed/locked. No reviewers mention this problem.

Mine moves a little bit too.
And 2 strips of tape help. I'm fine with it.

Rattling?

Today accidentally discovered that the phone has a rattle to it. Never dropped or anything. First, I thought it was the S-Pen, but even with the pen out, there is still a rattle that seems to be coming from the camera module. Anyone else's phone does that? Is it normal or should I try swapping the unit?

Its just the camera lens don't worry my last 3 Notes have done it

Thanks. Found the videos talking about the same issue on S20+. Guess it's normal. Never noticed it before on any of my Sammies. Must be a "new phone paranoia". ?

odesskiy said:
Thanks. Found the videos talking about the same issue on S20+. Guess it's normal. Never noticed it before on any of my Sammies. Must be a "new phone paranoia". ?
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Larger the camera the more it floats until you turn on the camera. Hence more noise. I would also suggest it's more sensitive while the camera is on to a hard hit /damage.

odesskiy said:
Today accidentally discovered that the phone has a rattle to it. Never dropped or anything. First, I thought it was the S-Pen, but even with the pen out, there is still a rattle that seems to be coming from the camera module. Anyone else's phone does that? Is it normal or should I try swapping the unit?
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I am experiencing that same rattle too. It seems to go away when i turn on the camera, so this is definitely due to the much talked about rattle that the camera module had with the S20 Ultra as well..
I must say that the rattle is rather annoying and random and especially annoying when i have the phone in my pocket while jogging..At least it is good to know that it is not a faulty unit but rather a feature of the lens system.

I am getting a faint clicking noise whenever I exit the camera app. I can feel it on the device too. Is this normal?

drdino said:
I am getting a faint clicking noise whenever I exit the camera app. I can feel it on the device too. Is this normal?
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Yes, it's the optical image stabilization kicking in

TonyGzl92 said:
Yes, it's the optical image stabilization kicking in
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Thanks, I suppose this is due to the different camera setup. I'm coming from a Note 9, which had OIS and is completely silent, but then again it doesn't have the new sensors.

Also remember when camera has stabilisation in it that could cause the rattle noise from camera since camera itself moves when you shake the phone.
I hardly hear rattle in mine but when I face screen down I can hear a loud click from camera area and then when I face it back up with screen up I hear the click again.
So yeah camera is basically moving or it's lenses.
This is normal as long you don't see any defect in camera when using it.
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Yeah I read about the rattling when shaking the device, but nothing about noise when the camera app exits...

I had the same issue. I had battery and overheating issues as well so i requested an exchange device. The old device had the rattle however i noticed the new one doesn't. Really think Samsung messed up QC with this device.

Interesting... Samsung doesn't have any stock of my device to exchange at the moment, otherwise I'd have probably asked for one. I'll see how it pans out over the next few days...

Without the camera app open when uou hold the device flat then tilt it up 90 degrees you'll hear it click every time, it doesn't matter if it's in landscape or portrait view. With the camera app open you don't hear it. One of the lens uses electromagnets for stabilization, without the camera app open the lens is moving around since there is no power going to the magnets.

airmaxx23 said:
Without the camera app open when uou hold the device flat then tilt it up 90 degrees you'll hear it click every time, it doesn't matter if it's in landscape or portrait view. With the camera app open you don't hear it. One of the lens uses electromagnets for stabilization, without the camera app open the lens is moving around since there is no power going to the magnets.
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Spot on.
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They all rattle, anyone says otherwise is trolling.
The snapdragons have better rattling. ??

I have had my Note 20 ultra for 2 days and only this afternoon have I noticed this very loud rattle. I swear 100% that it wasn't there before. It also happens that this afternoon was the first time I tried wirelessly charging my phone. Is it possible that the wireless charger has somehow messed with the magnets that control the lens module?! I'm really annoyed and might send it back.

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I have had my Note 20 ultra for 2 days and only this afternoon have I noticed this very loud rattle. I swear 100% that it wasn't there before. It also happens that this afternoon was the first time I tried wirelessly charging my phone. Is it possible that the wireless charger has somehow messed with the magnets that control the lens module?! I'm really annoyed and might send it back.
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They all have the rattle.

99tollap said:
I have had my Note 20 ultra for 2 days and only this afternoon have I noticed this very loud rattle. I swear 100% that it wasn't there before. It also happens that this afternoon was the first time I tried wirelessly charging my phone. Is it possible that the wireless charger has somehow messed with the magnets that control the lens module?! I'm really annoyed and might send it back.
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It's totally unacceptable for a 1399 device. Return it until you get a good one. By which time the note 21 ultra will be out. ?? Because they are all like that. I've had three different regional variants of the Note 20 Ultras, all same.
Buyers remorse has many faces.

Limeybastard said:
It's totally unacceptable for a 1399 device. Return it until you get a good one. By which time the note 21 ultra will be out. ??
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They all rattle, it's the lens when the camera app isn't open and powering the electromagnets. There's no point in exchanging it, they all do it.

airmaxx23 said:
They all rattle, it's the lens when the camera app isn't open and powering the electromagnets. There's no point in exchanging it, they all do it.
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You obviously missed my sarcasm in that post. American?