What is it? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Questions & Answers

Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.

kxdaorbit said:
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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It's a spycam....no, just kidding, just kidding - it was reported to be a 3rd microphone for cutting out any background noise.

I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
A *white* hole?
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
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Some say a mic and some say a small speaker, waiting on reviews now

kxdaorbit said:
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.

Charkatak said:
The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.
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Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.

kxdaorbit said:
Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.
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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras

Charkatak said:
I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras
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Sorry dude, the video you're talking about doesn't exist, there's no mic next to or anywhere near the camera array.
The cutout in question is absolutely a mic, and the earpiece does indeed doubles as the secondary speaker.

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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/

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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/
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This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.

kxdaorbit said:
This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.
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I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic

Charkatak said:
I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic
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You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.

kxdaorbit said:
You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.
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I was curious too about the speaker placement and mic's location when Samsung unveiled devices. I wanted the top hole to be IR Blaster, but at least we get nicer sound. I doubt the earpiece slit would be enough to act as an upper speaker, but they Samsung came up with the idea of making additional hole on top Oh and I do remember some years ago when Nokia came out with zoom mic in their phone, the mics pointed towards the object, so that might explain why Samsung had to make a slit in the camera frame. Now that I have seen Note 10 in person, I am happy that I pre-ordered it. I don't think I would have done it if Samsung wouldn't offer $600 trade in for my S10e. I really don't like the idea of buying expensive phones, let alone replace them every year.

There's 3 microphones :
- top
- bottom
- in the bevel of the camera.

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[Q]Reduce Dual Mic Volume On Video Recording?

Does anyone know of a way or if its possible to reduce the mic recording level when recording videos. I've recorded live performances in various conditions and there is a bit of distortion and clipping. I know its not gonna be perfect but would help it serve its purpose better.
Same problem here... sound during video recording clips and distorts...
Short of a hidden setting somewhere, If we could use external mics that might be easier to control...
Does anyone know a hidden setting for audio recording volume?
Or maybe worth putting into that camera improvement hack HyperX is working on, gonna try to find their thread...
uh is there a way to subscribe to a threat without posting? (forgot to check the box when I made my post)
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uh is there a way to subscribe to a threat without posting? (forgot to check the box when I made my post)
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On the top of he OP there's a button that says Thread Tools. Click on that and click Subscribe to this thread.
There is not a dual-mic. I believe that was a misconception. The holes are exit grooves for the antennas.
Elvis_Freshly said:
There is not a dual-mic. I believe that was a misconception. The holes are exit grooves for the antennas.
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I read in the specs that there's a mic next to the headphone plug for noise cancellation, while the talking mic is next to the USB.
As for exit grooves for an antenna... huh? I'm unfamiliar with the existence of exit grooves for antennae in plastic cases... afaik they work just fine through plastic
I'd imagine you'd only need exit grooves in metal cases?
I've read it was a dual mic.
It is. Video records in stereo sound, but you can change it to mono AFAIK.
+1 exactly the same problem and it drives me mad.
disabling stereo recording yielded better results for me.
but hey, it's a feature they sell right?
did you find any other solution/workaround?
the second mic is right above the camera. If you look at your back casing you'll see that top hole & if you look in the corresponding place on the phone there's a grommet for the mic hole.
Sorry to dig up this old topic, but I've just noticed this problem myself. Has anyone found a solution? Perhaps one of the various kernel gurus has addressed the problem?
Apparently in camera settings select video options and switch off stereo recording. It's not perfect. And doesn't fix it all together. I don't think the one x is any better from what I've seen.

i'm designing a new device

Hi,
I'm currently designing a completely new android device and would like some feedback on the hardware designs. (It is a phone with a 4.2" screen.)
I will build a working prototype from an old Zte blade and 3d printed bits at some point.
Update: the hardware i'm thinking of for a product final isn't like the blade's, it would be higher end.
Update 2: The apk thing was kind of a separate note, this phone would initially be AOSP i was just thinking of something separate I'm working on.
Please don't steal my idea, and credit this source if you build upon it.
Any way
please let me know what you think:
docx format concept attatched below
Not something u see everyday, will definitely take a look
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How about stereo speakers? You should design it like this; one on the bottom left (speaker A) & one on top right (speaker B). In portrait, speaker A is the left channel, speaker B the right channel. This is ideal for listening to music. But when the user switch to landscape for example to watch movies, speaker B becomes the left channel, speaker A becomes the right channel. I know it's quite hard to imagine but it totally makes sense. Also, it distinguishes your device from others in the market.
Joel5121 said:
How about stereo speakers? You should design it like this; one on the bottom left (speaker A) & one on top right (speaker B). In portrait, speaker A is the left channel, speaker B the right channel. This is ideal for listening to music. But when the user switch to landscape for example to watch movies, speaker B becomes the left channel, speaker A becomes the right channel. I know it's quite hard to imagine but it totally makes sense. Also, it distinguishes your device from others in the market.
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Why though? Who listens to music from the speakers anyway?
votum said:
Why though? Who listens to music from the speakers anyway?
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Not always, but I do.
About the speakers:
good idea but i don't know if it's plausible to have two sets at the top, what if the mic was two way? then it has two larger speakers on the front for stereo playback?
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Both speakers should be on the back, not in front. That would be ridiculous LOL. Also, how about a kickstand so you don't always have do hold it when watching movies.
You always have to have a speaker on the front, it's a phone. there wont be room to have it at the back at the top as well as the two cameras, proximity, ambient light sensor, and front calling speaker.
about the kickstand; I've already been thinking about that, but where would it go? I'm building up some models for one with a kick stand now.
I think you a referring to the speaker for phone call. I'm talking about speakers that you listen to when you play music. Almost all phones have it on the back, but only 1. My idea is to put 2 of them.
Edit: An example of phone with stereo speaker http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w595-pictures-2469.php
right new picture; this one incorporates the idea of a kickstand with two speakers, although they are on the sides they wrap around to the back.
My comment on the front speakers was an idea that you could use the calling speaker as a music/ other audio speaker, as well, for movie playback.
Great! Are you really building this phone for the market or just designing for fun?
Looks like a weird version of the Xperia Arc
Sound like a good ideai would love to see how this turns out
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TobiasV said:
Looks like a weird version of the Xperia Arc
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Also xperia s
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If you fancy some crit, (BTW I'm a 3D artist of 16 years in games/film as a TD so I often only see the bad points of design or function)
1. "Edge to Edge" screen. Although I've often thought about a phone with this, from a design standpoint it becomes a little impractical for a number of reasons.
a) The users hands activate the areas on the edge just by holding it.
b) The problem of a) becomes much greater when holding the phone and operating it with one hand (it near enough means you can't, because of your palm or lower finger/thumb)
c) Any case or protection that one would want for the phone has a problem of not being able to wrap at the sides to create better grip to the unit.
2. Curved screen. Most curved screens work from a convergence angle based of the "average" eye distance in use. I think the curves are just too much for a device of this size. I personally only see a need and or advantage for screens of 15" + to be curved.
3. The volume/power button arrangement seems inconsistant with the actual design flow of the phone. Me personally would have them following the profile of the phone (curved)
4. Front speaker position not being centered would mean the use of the phone as a phone would require you to hold it at a rather odd angle for optimal function. Thats why most ear speaker outs are centered with sensors / camera surrounding them.
5. Depth/feel I could imagine this phone if held would be almost as annoying to me as an iphone4, maybe more. The angled edges and depth mean it would feel more like a slab of metal than something I would be using every day.
Just a few thoughts for an "angry" Yorkshireman
Cup holder!
Lol, sorry couldn't resist.
Make it contoured for a natural feel.
Decent aspect ratio for gaming/movies
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Right, so I'm taking all of your ideas into play (sorry no cup holders though )
I'll post back in a bit with 3 new, different, concepts. If you could vote on them it will be most appreciated.
FYI: This is initially for fun but if there is enough interest I might try to release a couple of low end working phones to the market.
If you did release a version of your phone how much do you expect it to be to a consumer?
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eoghan2t7 said:
If you did release a version of your phone how much do you expect it to be to a consumer?
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Depending on what i did for the guts; somewhere between £150 and £250
Rule 1: no rectangular shape.
Rule 2: no rectangular home button.
Or be prepared to be sued.
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Something loose inside pixel's body?

Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?
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Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.
I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough.
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I just now picked up my Nexus 5x and shook it, and it seems you are correct - it makes a rattling sound also (as if something is loose). It's not surprising though, considering how many times I've dropped/tossed it, both accidentally and purposefully. I wonder if it made that noise when I first got it...
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Yes, replacement is same
I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.
cb474 said:
I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.
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Haptic feedback
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Tidbits said:
Haptic feedback.
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Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)
cb474 said:
Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)
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I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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Tidbits said:
I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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I didn't say haptic feedback, you said haptic feedback.
I also clearly said that it was the same type of noise coming from both the top and bottom of the phone, which means it would have to be the speakers, since that's the only thing there are two of, one in each of those positions. And I said that I had the same type of noise coming from the earpiece on my Nexus 4. So the whole point of my first post was that I was ruling out OIS, which others had suggested, and felt pretty confident the sound comes from the speakers. I wasn't looking for suggestions. I was explaining my reasoning for why it seems like it's the speakers that make the sound.
guysalami said:
Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.
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My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Why are you saying its fine when its not? lol... other phones with OIS don't make the noise.. Stop justifying for google's manufacturing defects.
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My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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As I explain in my posts, I think the slight rattling noise actually comes from the speakers, not the OIS. I think the OIS guess is wrong. I've explain my reasons in more detail above.
However, in order to get the sound you have to tap the edge of the phone in just the right place and just the right way. It's easy to shake or tap the phone and not get the sound at all. So I'm pretty sure I could get this sound on all of the phones you mentioned. In fact, next time I'm in a carrier store I'll try the S8. I think it's just something speakers do. I've tried several different model phones and they all do it.

5 Major flaws with this phone

#1: The sd/sim tray is so poorly designed it'll actually not slot into place properly and I've used this device for only a few minutes. This means the IP rating is basically useless since if anything sips in due to how the tray is designed it'll leak straight to the screen and everything else. I've tried to use minor force to slot in in the place "properly" but the thing is that the flat part that covers the slot wobbles meaning it is not static, which means we have a topkek moment a la Z1-5 flap issue all over again.
#2: The sd card reader is gimped, less than half (getting 1/3) the speeds compared to say the XZ1.
#3: Now let's talk about the elephant in the room shall we? The glass backside, It's not flat! Meaning it can't sit on anything with a slight decline like your bed, pillow, or anything slippery for that matter. You either buy a derpy case or live with the fact that this device can't even sit flat unless otherwise.
#4: Weight was added for no reason, and a lot of people tend to believe that weight equals quality, but in this case it had no reason whatsoever. And what's the best of it all?! Said weight made it thicker, which means they had plenty of space to add that headphone jack that was removed because they had to follow the fruitcake trend. And because it's rounded in the rear, it makes the actual thickness seem thinner than it's predecessor which is around 2-3mm thinner which has guess what? A headphone jack! And don't give me that BS about needed cooling, the S9 is thinner (about the same as the XZ1) and comes in both Exynos and SD flavors.
#5: Let's remind ourselves once again why the headphone jack was removed, not to mention a lot of regions won't even ship with any headphones (nordic region here) which felt kinda cheap, but at least they provided a dongle!
I got a pair of MDR-EX650AP and WH-H900N if anyone is wondering and both come in handy, trust me.
Goto admit I love my XZ2 and I only agree with you on No.2 and No.5...
2... Im using a Samsung 64GB 95mb/s SDCard andthe read speed is rubbish.. this is my second XZ2 and its exactly the same.. so it tells me theres a software issue.. In both the SONY Music app and using the home screen widget, from pressing play.. It takes about 3 secs before music starts playing.. and Im getting lag when accessing phot9os and files on SDCard... theres been 2 updates so far... 145 and 159.. and neither updates have fixed this
5.. Dont even mention the stupidity of removing the Headphone jack from devices ... its been a thorn in everyones side since HTC, the first Android Dev to follow Apple with this "Sheep" like trend on their U Ultra last March 17.. and now its a thing... do you know what really gets me is everybody complains about on forums, yet nobody goes on a Devs Twitter or FB page and says "I was going to buy your phone, but because you removed the 3.5 jack, Ive bought a Samsung instead"... do you know, if everyone started saying that.. we'd have the Jack back by 2019... because regardless of the device you actually buy.. theres nothing worse for a DEV than critisism on their front pages.
Anyway... I think the XZ2 is a gorgeous device, beautifully weighted, stunning.. yes, STUNNING and simple camera, great speakers.. anda great screen, No its not perfect.. buts its pretty good
I'd also add the downgrading of the front camera to 5mp from the 13mp in last year's XZ models. Though I wonder if that could have been a space issue at the edge for the module.
It's the one thing (well and the SD card speed) that is keeping me from upgrading from an XZ1. Though if the price gets low enough...
And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
The camera is still bad ala sony
Allesa said:
The camera is still bad ala sony
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Camera isn't that bad. But don't use the Auto Mode!
I've made some comparisons (maybe i can show one later at home) and the auto mode is just bad. It makes blurry pictures, especially the darker areas. Switching to manual mode with auto settings raises the quality extremely. Don't know if that's a bug or whatever...
No wired video out is a big one for me...
I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
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I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
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Install vlc (playstore). It nearly all types of media files.
Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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cheetah2k said:
And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
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Get a proximity wake app like Gravity Screen from the store and you won't care.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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Weird, no blur on my H8296 6GB.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Weird, mine is fine.
There is also a bend and scratch test on YouTube to demonstrate it.
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
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There are water resistant speakers which break physical laws and transmit the sound through water without any quality degradation?
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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1. Water will block sound waves, not a huge amount you can do with a phone.
2. Not an issue for me as I use my left ear and my little finger is the other side of the USB.
My most annoying thing on this phone is the XZ2 is very slippery!! Cannot even sit calmly if there is a slight angle on the surface! Have to buy a case to prevent this though...
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
tomo100brt said:
You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
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"Dumb" is impolite, but I can understand you.
Everyone who had physics in school should understand this behaviour.
Btw.
I hate 2 things
1. The DRM **** (it is my first Sony phone)
So I hope for a drm fix which doesn't reduce the camera quality if used with aosp and gcam.
2. The slow, undocumented sdcard performance of 20mb/sec.
The only flaw that stops me from buying anything from the XZ2 line-up is the sad lack of development support, specially custom kernel development.
Sadly enough.

Camera mechanism very rattly, anyone else?

My camera is really rattly and doesnt secure in the closed position!
Its ****ing disgusting of a sound when I put in down on a table, is this normal?
Really kills ALL fun I can have with this device
Mine seems pretty OK. No rattling when I control the camera.
There might be some quality control issues. I've seen a few mention rattling but most say theirs is fine. So with that in mind it sounds like you risk having to RMA the device when you get it.
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
The same problem with my flipcam.
Mine works fine.
Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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I was thinking into a similar direction... Good to hear this works.
facepalm lol
Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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Duct tape on a phone? 2019.?
No thanks
My camera is firm and doesnt rattle, it does make some noise when the camera moves but thats to be expected I think.
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
jaseman said:
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Difficult to say with such a small sample size.
Could be 1%, 5%, 20%, 50% or 90% with issues. The quality control might get better or the mechanism might just have that bad yields. So right now we have to assume it's either a small number of devices or first batch problems. I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.
T I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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jaseman said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Yes and it isn't comparable.
This is a quality control issue from the factory. I haven't heard anyone say it started rattling later (nor does it seem there would be time to start breaking the device through regular use unless it's sensitive and starts rattling from dust and debris).
The Fold worked fine at the factory and testing in a controlled environment did not reveal the fragility of the design. Otherwise we may as well bring up Note 7 too. That's also a design flaw.
Since not all models rattle it isn't necessarily a design flaw but one of quality and yields. Of course Asus is welcome to make a statement on what causes the issue.
Mine also rattle when put down on table and same with just tapping the screen. Otherwise it is good. Weird that no review mentioned this, not even tech tablets. If the phone didn't cost 570 euro, but 250 euro I would not mind, but I'm going to return it, it is unacceptable for the price.
Mine doesn't rattle when closed, but also doesn't open fully. It sits at a slight angle when open, so I have to press "volume up" for a second to straighten it. As far as I can see there's no calibration tool for camera angle. This might help solve both problems.
Mine rattle to
the camera opens a little whenever I was fast walking with the phone in my pocket or when I wear lose pants but I fixed it by adding 2 strips of tape behind the camera :/
I found out that the rattle is coming from the hinge at the side where the volume buttons are
picked it up from table https://youtu.be/QcbjNwhLVIE ...
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To clarify - this is how it always is, but it happens - lets say once a day - camera just get _more_ loose by itself. I will create another video how it is all the time (it is still pretty bad in quiet environment) - but it will be harder to catch with one hand holding camera phone.
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picked it up from table
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Can other users of this phone confirm if it is a faulty unit or it is "normal" behaviour? Camera module seems to be wonky and loose, not firmly closed/locked. No reviewers mention this problem.
Mine moves a little bit too.
And 2 strips of tape help. I'm fine with it.

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