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can anyone who has had his phone for more than 10 minutes confirm that the little silver slider button on the side of the phone will stay attached to it??
it seems awefully flimsy... (the scroll wheel also)
does this pose a problem?
i have not got to test it yet as i just picked it up from the UPS office.... I CANT WAIT!!
Seems ok.
The Microsoft UI is outdated but the hardware seems solid enough.
Unfortunantly, the slider and scroll wheel are a bit flimsy.
True those controls are rather unhandy (something like the apple iPod's naviagtional wheel would bet more appropriate) but you don't HAVE to use them.
Luckily the scrollwheel is also 4-directional buttons, and that makes up a lot.
ok, i am glad that its not only mine that feels that way, i thought maybe i got a defective unit, but if they are all that way then what can we do!?? hopefully they stay together for a bit.
mine too. just the slider though. but to be honest i haven't really used it until now.
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mine too. just the slider though. but to be honest i haven't really used it until now.
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I'll just add that my slider is also pretty loose and jiggles around in its housing. But oddly enough, it is really difficult to push up or down! I have to hook my fingernail on the little raised area in the middle of the slider and push up or down with some considerable force in order to get the volume to change. I changed it to be a scroller with AEButton plus, but it was pretty much unuseable because of this fact, so I changed it back to volume - and I hardly ever use it.
Anyone else with the same experience?
ye p i got the same problem lol.
it does seem like a delicate deivce.
No problems whatsoever, feels better than the same buttons on the Artemis (P3300). The scrollwheel is a lot more precise for functions like adjusting volume and zooming in on photos than any directional button with repeat function could ever be.
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it does seem like a delicate deivce.
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Slider and scroll wheel shouldn't be a problem, after 14 months of very hard use the similar items on Artemis have no problems...
thanks... for the response to these questions.
one cant be too worried about a product that they just shelled out a bunch of $$$ for.
as someone said, the slider is really used that much, but the scroll wheel still feels extremely cheap to me.
maybe had they had put a bit of resistance on it it would feel more "attached"
anyway, thanks...
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thanks... for the response to these questions.
one cant be too worried about a product that they just shelled out a bunch of $$$ for.
as someone said, the slider is really used that much, but the scroll wheel still feels extremely cheap to me.
maybe had they had put a bit of resistance on it it would feel more "attached"
anyway, thanks...
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That's funny - my scroll wheel is so tight that I can hardly get it to move! I have hold the TC in one hand and use my index finger in the other hand with pressure to get it to budge. Maybe it will loosen up with time. I hope so, cause it sucks for one handed use. Too bad we can't meet in the middle, xrrkrrkx!
Had to edit this post - I found that it was just because the air is so damn dry here this winter! My thumb is so dry, it just slips over the wheel instead of getting any friction. If I quickly lick the end of my thumb and then use the wheel, it works like a charm - just can't share my phone now! Now that I read this, that's probably more than you guys wanted to know!
Does anyone else have loose home button on their phone? It makes noises when you lightly tap on it and doesn't sound too good. I've also went to the T-Mobile store today and noticed my home button is more flush than the both display models they had. Anyone else face the same issue?
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Does anyone else have loose home button on their phone? It makes noises when you lightly tap on it and doesn't sound too good. I've also went to the T-Mobile store today and noticed my home button is more flush than the both display models they had. Anyone else face the same issue?
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If it feels off go in and have them pull out a brand new one. When there in store. If yours feels off, have it replaced! I do this with any new phone. I tediously inspect it. If I think something feels off I have them show me a new one and compare. That way I can show them right then and there, this is why you're going to give me another phone lol
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. That way I can show them right then and there, this is why you're going to give me another phone lol
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Lol
Good one.
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If it feels off go in and have them pull out a brand new one. When there in store. If yours feels off, have it replaced! I do this with any new phone. I tediously inspect it. If I think something feels off I have them show me a new one and compare. That way I can show them right then and there, this is why you're going to give me another phone lol
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I have a feeling my front glass is slightly misaligned. Will be checking the store model to make sure, as the corner by the back button seems a bit sunken in. The frame definitely comes up over the glass a little.
I was just in the Samsung Experience Store and noticed that of the four regular S6s they had, three had loose homebuttons. The Edges seemed fine though.
My t mobile version is a bit loose as well. It feels like a minor issue but it is pretty annoying....
I picked up my S6 this morning and have noticed that a light tap on the home button makes a noise. It's annoying and it makes an otherwise solid feeling, quality phone feel cheap. I guess I'll try taking it back to see if I can get another one that doesn't have this issue.
The frame is suppose to slightly overlap the screen by the way
I actually returned my T mobile version for another, and the other has the exact same loose button
Well i noticed it after you guys wrote about it here. I have a S6 32Gig White, a friend has a S6 64gig Black version, i checked his S6 and he doesn't have this issue.
But honestly, it is not like i tap on the button all the time, you can only hear it if you slightly tap on it. If you fully press it, you don't even hear it. It is also not like it makes any sounds when moving the phone, therefore i am not going through all the pain to get this replaced just to receive another one with a loose button
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Well i noticed it after you guys wrote about it here. I have a S6 32Gig White, a friend has a S6 64gig Black version, i checked his S6 and he doesn't have this issue.
But honestly, it is not like i tap on the button all the time, you can only hear it if you slightly tap on it. If you fully press it, you don't even hear it. It is also not like it makes any sounds when moving the phone, therefore i am not going through all the pain to get this replaced just to receive another one with a loose button
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Yeah, if I didn't have this Edge without the issue it might not bother me so much
I went back to the T-Mo store and their display model had it. One of the guys opened another one up for me and it too was affected. I ended up walking out with the phone I had. Not gonna make them open a bunch of boxes until they find one that doesn't. At this point the ratio makes it seem like the loose button is normal and any that aren't are the odd ones. Ah well.
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I went back to the T-Mo store and their display model had it. One of the guys opened another one up for me and it too was affected. I ended up walking out with the phone I had. Not gonna make them open a bunch of boxes until they find one that doesn't. At this point the ratio makes it seem like the loose button is normal and any that aren't are the odd ones. Ah well.
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That's unfortunate. Perhaps I'll keep mine for a while and deal with it then swap? Wait on a different production run or something.
Mine is nice and tight, but already scratched up. I mean my fingers are rough but jeez. Some soft material on there.
mine seems pretty solid, sorry to hear you should defintely bring it back
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mine seems pretty solid, sorry to hear you should defintely bring it back
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Ugh, again though?
I guess...
Well i was wrong about it not bothering me It started annoying me after you guys wrote about it...
I went to a T-Mobile store to check if the devices had the same problem, and yes 2 of them had, 1 did not...
Dunno if it is worth to send it back now and wait up to 6 days to receive a replacement that has probably the same issue -.-
P.s. After pressing the button down very hard a few times, the right side stopped making noises, the mid now also seems to be fine, it can only be heared if touching the very left side of the button...
Same issue here. The left side of the home button rattles a little bit when i press lightly on it. Should i exchange or is it normal?
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Same issue here. The left side of the home button rattles a little bit when i press lightly on it. Should i exchange or is it normal?
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Does it bug you?
On my third t mobile version, all three with loose buttons.
All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
I'm a lefty so I'm just going to run my finger along the back until I feel the sensor. Doubt I'll have many problems with wiping my camera lense. And I also rarely take pictures so I have that going for me as well.
Looks like you will be covering up at least 50% of the camera at the same time.
I dont even think about to use fingerprint sensor on s8+
Nope!
I'm just the opposite. If I try to do it with my left index finger, the scanner is too close. It's awkward for me to try using my left index finger. With the UAG case, I'll easily be able to keep away from the camera lense.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
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The LG V20 has the fingerprint scanner on the back. I don't know until I see the actual device, but I think the S8 once you get used to it, it should be fine.
I don't think it will be much of an issue either. But the S8 is just so fantastic you need to find a con somewhere
Honestly, I won't even use it. I hold my phone really low compared to most, I guess.
Can someone confirm how fast/reliable the iris scanner is? Also, does having it on make a noticeable impact on battery life?
im using an iphone 7 plus and i wipe my camera every time i use it and theres no fingerprint scanner back there hahahaha people are weird
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Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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I hear you and agree with the caveat that people with small hands need to purchase a mobile that they can handle efficiently. The S8 and S8+ are not designed for people with small hands? Its very much a question of compromise. If one desires a screen as large as the S8's then one will need larger than average hands or accept small handed users will need two handed operation. :good:
I don't mind the scanner being where it is. I owned a zenphone with the scanner on the back right underneath the camera. I had zero problems after acclimatising myself to such a layout.
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I can comment on the fingerprint scanner, it is very fast - near instantaneous, the only issue is that it takes longer to hit the right spot that it does for it to open the phone. as everyone already mentioned it is in a bad/awkward spot. i tend to either hit the camera or the flash when trying to use it. eventually ill train myself to hit the right area, but its not intuitive.
Just checked the s8/s8+ out at Best Buy. The s8+ was perfect for me just doing a quick hands on with the finger print scanner. I thought it would be weird but it was easy for me to use but my hands are bigger than average.
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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That is the other irritating thing about it being on the back, when I have the phone in a dock or on the desk I am going to end up picking it up to unlock it instead of just putting my finger on a front facing scanner. I know you can have the iris scanner AND the fingerprint scanner active, but with the iris scanner i would still have to pick the phone up to point it at my eyes so its pretty useless, it will need a pin like you said.
On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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When I unlock the phone it's usually got my internet browser open which is likely what I'm going to be using, so I'm not looking to use the Home/Back buttons.
As a left-handed, I almost always hold my phone in my right hand. This means my index finger naturally falls over the S8 fingerprint scanner. Also, there is only the small, stiff power button on the right side of the S8 so I don't end up pressing buttons inadvertently with my thumb as I do with many other phones. This is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used. If you are a lefty let us know how you feel about using the S8/S8+ in your world.
Well, I'm right handed, but I do hold my phone in the right hand 99% of the time. Maybe, as you've said, that's the reason I too never had a problem with the fingerprint scanner.
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Well, I'm right handed, but I do hold my phone in the right hand 99% of the time. Maybe, as you've said, that's the reason I too never had a problem with the fingerprint scanner.
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So then the question becomes, "What percentage of people hold their phones mostly in their dominant hand?"
I don't but you do. The S8 has similar button layout to the iPhone - two on the left and one on the right. So I imagine that Apple and Samsung have drawn similar conclusions from studies that answer that question.
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As a left-handed, I almost always hold my phone in my right hand. This means my index finger naturally falls over the S8 fingerprint scanner. Also, there is only the small, stiff power button on the right side of the S8 so I don't end up pressing buttons inadvertently with my thumb as I do with many other phones. This is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used. If you are a lefty let us know how you feel about using the S8/S8+ in your world.
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You make it seem like it is perfectly natural that a left handed person holds the phone with the right hand. That is simply not true.
This is the most painful layout regarding fingerprint sensor for a leftie (you know the one that holds the phone with left hand) . The rest of the physical keys are fine for both hands. Soft keys are always contentious, therefore it is very nice being able to switch back and multitasking.
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You make it seem like it is perfectly natural that a left handed person holds the phone with the right hand. That is simply not true.
This is the most painful layout regarding fingerprint sensor for a leftie (you know the one that holds the phone with left hand) . The rest of the physical keys are fine for both hands. Soft keys are always contentious, therefore it is very nice being able to switch back and multitasking.
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Try reading my very next post before proceeding to do exactly what you have just accused me of doing.
Being a left-handed, I used to hold my phone with my left hand (and navigate with the thumb). My main problem was the generalization of the flip covers (replacing the covers that opened downwards), and all the flip covers open to the left. So it was impossible to open the cover if holding the phone with the left hand. I had to learn how to hold my phone with my right hand, now it feels mostly natural and I'm navigating mostly with my right thumb.
I also bought the LED cover, which has separate "window" for the fingerprint scanner, so it's easy for me to find it. The only problem is when the cover is opened, I can't access the sensor, so I'm using iris unlock.
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Try reading my very next post before proceeding to do exactly what you have just accused me of doing.
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To summarize your first post.
You are a leftie that uses the phone in right hand. Therefore:
"this is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used."
End of summary.
Yes I simply responded to your initial post and this statement, among others.
So where does the left hand come into play. Lefties have learned to live in a world of right handed people. But to praise the regular scissors as leftie friendly, cause it frees my left hand to eat and jerk off, while I'm cutting something...
Your second post simply posits that samsung and apple cater to a majority. You make it seem as though they did some studies how many lefties hold their phones in right hand, and came to a conclusion.
They did not have to. Right handed people hold phone in dominant hand, and they are the majority of the population. End of story. Which makes this thread....
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If this is what you call a summary I’d hate to see your detailed explanations. This is the longest post in this thread. BTW, 100s of millions of people hold their phone in their non-dominant hand for various reasons. One being that people with smaller hands often type with their dominant hand and hold the phone with the other.
Fixed it for you. Peace.
Guilty though. Yes I tend to elaborate and make essays with my responses.
All the best.
Still definitely disagree that fingerprint location is left handed friendly.
It would have been too much to ask to have it below camera , centered as others. Now that would have been something useful. But no, therefore it stands unused on my phone.
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I'm coming a OnePlus 9 and I'm noticing that the screen is far too sensitive on my P7P. For example, when I click on a notification banner, it thinks I'm long pressing and presents me with the options to "Silent," "Default," and "Priority" the banner notification. I've also noticed when I swipe left or right to go back, it will count it as double as the haptic feedback is felt twice.
I didn't know until after purchasing that Pixels were notorious for having bad finger print scanners. This one is worse that my OP9. I have a screen protector to put on still, perhaps it will make it just right at that point.
Well, the finger print scanner is even worse than on Oneplus Nord. And I also have accidental long presses. I am actually quite disappointed with the phone.
One more thing that I dislike is how the navigation buttons have gaps between them. I constantly tap on those gaps and nothing happens. And if you use gestures, swiping to go back conflicts with swiping to open the side menu in apps.
I was hoping that this device was going to keep me happier than my OP9, oh well. it's still an early release. Hopefully it gets better with firmware upgrades. OP has gone down hill and that's why I'm here. If this fails, I'm going to submit to iOS (wait, did I just say that?!)
I did just put a screen protector on. I'm hoping that will kill some of the sensitivity. I went with the Milomdoi from Amazon. It was the best out of the 3 or 4 I ordered (sent back the ones I didn't did like). Installed pretty easy... despit the one small dust spec I missed in the far right corner. It'll be OK. The case almost covers it up. I'll report back if the screen protector improves the touch at all. I not hopeful though haha
You both might have some bad displays, my fingerprint scanner is far better and faster on the Pixel 7 pro than my OnePlus 9 Pro. I don't recall any issue with the touch sensitivity so far.
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I'm coming a OnePlus 9 and I'm noticing that the screen is far too sensitive on my P7P. For example, when I click on a notification banner, it thinks I'm long pressing and presents me with the options to "Silent," "Default," and "Priority" the banner notification. I've also noticed when I swipe left or right to go back, it will count it as double as the haptic feedback is felt twice.
I didn't know until after purchasing that Pixels were notorious for having bad finger print scanners. This one is worse that my OP9. I have a screen protector to put on still, perhaps it will make it just right at that point.
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Try going to Settings>Accessibility>Interaction controls>Timing Controls>Touch & Hold Delay and set it to Medium.
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Try going to Settings>Accessibility>Interaction controls>Timing Controls>Touch & Hold Delay and set it to Medium.
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Just when you thought you scoured the all device's settings. I'll give this a shot and see what it does (so far so good). Thanks!
I re-registered my fingerprints too. Hopefully that will improve recognition.
On a same note, could someone please tell me if this is normal: https://giphy.com/gifs/COEoRqIfJdhpWTxoKC
When I adjust the brightness and leave the touch input for a bit, the slider goes all over the place. It's pretty annoying and doesn't seem that the slider should act this way.
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On a same note, could someone please tell me if this is normal: https://giphy.com/gifs/COEoRqIfJdhpWTxoKC
When I adjust the brightness and leave the touch input for a bit, the slider goes all over the place. It's pretty annoying and doesn't seem that the slider should act this way.
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Didnt noticed until now , does the same on mine.
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Didnt noticed until now , does the same on mine.
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The reason you didn't notice is that like almost everyone, you don't let your finger linger on the slider, but slide it to where you want it and let go
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Just when you thought you scoured the all device's settings. I'll give this a shot and see what it does (so far so good). Thanks!
I re-registered my fingerprints too. Hopefully that will improve recognition.
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Now tap and hold is too long when on medium. Why wouldn't they have this adjustable in ms instead of three preset options.
The fingerprint reader has been perfect for me (so much better than on the 6 Pro) but I agree about the screen sensitivity. It's too sensitive.
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I'm coming a OnePlus 9 and I'm noticing that the screen is far too sensitive on my P7P. For example, when I click on a notification banner, it thinks I'm long pressing and presents me with the options to "Silent," "Default," and "Priority" the banner notification. I've also noticed when I swipe left or right to go back, it will count it as double as the haptic feedback is felt twice.
I didn't know until after purchasing that Pixels were notorious for having bad finger print scanners. This one is worse that my OP9. I have a screen protector to put on still, perhaps it will make it just right at that point.
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Absolutely zero issues with the fingerprint reader here, I find it just as reliable and even quicker than my S21 Ultra and that is with a protector.
I suggest it's either a bad screen protector install (air bubbles around the fingerprint area would cause havoc with it) or maybe it's just not a good protector for use with an optical scanner.