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I have an idea for a lockscreen app

i was wondering if there's a lockscreen app that just shows your current home but non responsive til you tap your screen a preset number of times that way you can still see your android homescreen so you don't have to unlock it to see your live widgets and maybe to add some eye-candy to it the taps could crack the glass at the point where you touched the screen the final tap that unlocks it could shatter the glass and restore responsiveness to the device...sort of a "break glass in case of emergency" feel to it. can this be done? If yes, how hard would it be and does anybody else think this is a good idea? And lastly does anybody wanna take a crack at it?

Hah that'd be pretty cool... Mainly for showing off

maybe an interested app dev will see this post i would love to see this on a device and not just in my head

Something like that would totally rock. Although, I'm afraid you could still unlock the phone accidentally if it were in your pocket. I know the screen can register a touch through thin fabric, of which a lot of pockets are made of. Maybe make it quadrant based. Two taps in the upper left and one tap in the lower right or something along those lines. Don't even have to have lines on the screen or anything like that to differentiate the quadrants, just a fuzzy logic system that can figure out what your trying to do.

garfnodie said:
Something like that would totally rock. Although, I'm afraid you could still unlock the phone accidentally if it were in your pocket. I know the screen can register a touch through thin fabric, of which a lot of pockets are made of. Maybe make it quadrant based. Two taps in the upper left and one tap in the lower right or something along those lines. Don't even have to have lines on the screen or anything like that to differentiate the quadrants, just a fuzzy logic system that can figure out what your trying to do.
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Interesting!
Along that same idea ...
Maybe a re-skin of the Lock Pattern currently utilized in Android.
It could, under some setting, take a screen shot of the home screen.and when the device is locked, display that screen shot.
Your idea of the invisible quadrants could be expanded to equal a 3 by 3, or a 4 by 4 square, instead of dots. And it could be set to recognize taps or swypes.

OrganizedFellow said:
Interesting!
Along that same idea ...
Maybe a re-skin of the Lock Pattern currently utilized in Android.
It could, under some setting, take a screen shot of the home screen.and when the device is locked, display that screen shot.
Your idea of the invisible quadrants could be expanded to equal a 3 by 3, or a 4 by 4 square, instead of dots. And it could be set to recognize taps or swypes.
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That may work, but I think it may start to get a little too complicated then. My thinking is that if you have three or even four sections wide/tall, it may be much more difficult to hit a particular area, that's assuming there are no visible dividing lines. Invisible quadrants would be much easier to tap and swipe without worrying your not hitting the correct area.

garfnodie said:
Invisible quadrants would be much easier to tap and swipe without worrying your not hitting the correct area.
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I hope some developer is reading this

These little random ideas for apps never really happen, it is rare that anyone actually fulfils the wishful thinking of random users. I would be heavily surprised if this is actually carried through with.
Fantastic idea, though. If you ignore the negative, with the right effects and work this could be quite good.

[Q] The display lights up if the sliding mechanism is even slightly nudged?

Hi, guys, have you noticed that if the right side of the sliding mechanism is slightly nudged, the display lights up? Here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNQ1nK3cutY
When answering, please share what phone and keyboard layout do you have.

Same problem with me.. (link)
Personally, I don't like the capacitive buttons.. and I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with the search button!
Also, I don't know if anyone else has this problem..
If my keyboard is slightly moved/nudged, it wakes the phone up. See video..
http://www.twitvid.com/CHP21
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Oh, that's a relief, I thought I was the only one
Well, that's not a big problem, even if the phone is waked up, it's still locked and goes to sleep again in 3-4 seconds.

This is weird!
Mine's display light up after I slide it past the bottom keyboard row, it can stay locked while I can clearly see the spacebar!
How can the same device act differently like that? mine is a 7 Pro (not an Arrive), and I can see from your video that yours is a 7 Pro too.

hassanselim0 said:
This is weird!
Mine's display light up after I slide it past the bottom keyboard row, it can stay locked while I can clearly see the spacebar!
How can the same device act differently like that? mine is a 7 Pro (not an Arrive), and I can see from your video that yours is a 7 Pro too.
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If I push the sliding mechanism evenly, with two fingers, mine also lights up after the first row of the keyboard, just like yours. But try to push only the right side...

The screen is triggered based on a magnet I believe. So the amount that the screen must be moved to trigger the screen to come on isn't a precise thing.

Doesn't happen on my Arrive.

Hey, folks, do your phones light up when you divide the two halves?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc6zNYu-La8
Please write what phone do you have - HTC Arrive, HTC 7 Pro, QWERTY or QWERTZ kejboard.

Mine doesn't light up if I nudge the right or left side. It also does not light up If split it in half like the above video.
It only lights up when I slide it over the first row of keys.

tiny17 said:
The screen is triggered based on a magnet I believe. So the amount that the screen must be moved to trigger the screen to come on isn't a precise thing.
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This is correct.
I don't have the manual for that phone. (it's similar to the mechanism shown for the TyTn however www.mikechannon.net or see here to get the general idea http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2677085&postcount=3 ) HTC tightened their document security and it's almost impossible to get Service Manuals current devices these days.
However, as tiny17 commented, in HTC phones, the sliding keyboard activates "wake-up" by means of a small magnet which is glued onto the inside of the casing. As this moves past the magnet operated switch it wakes up the phone. You will see similar behaviour if you bring a magnet near certain parts of the case and in fact this is a way to locate where the magnet switch is located.
Also, using phone cases that have magnet clasps on them can also operate the switch and wake up the phone when sliding it in and out of the case/pouch.
So technically this is not a fault, but it can be annoying.
Mike

Fingerprint Scranner Location A Problem? No!

All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.

Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will

BleedCrimson said:
All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.

I'm a lefty so I'm just going to run my finger along the back until I feel the sensor. Doubt I'll have many problems with wiping my camera lense. And I also rarely take pictures so I have that going for me as well.

Looks like you will be covering up at least 50% of the camera at the same time.

I dont even think about to use fingerprint sensor on s8+

Nope!
I'm just the opposite. If I try to do it with my left index finger, the scanner is too close. It's awkward for me to try using my left index finger. With the UAG case, I'll easily be able to keep away from the camera lense.
ewokuk said:
You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
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The LG V20 has the fingerprint scanner on the back. I don't know until I see the actual device, but I think the S8 once you get used to it, it should be fine.

I don't think it will be much of an issue either. But the S8 is just so fantastic you need to find a con somewhere

Honestly, I won't even use it. I hold my phone really low compared to most, I guess.

Can someone confirm how fast/reliable the iris scanner is? Also, does having it on make a noticeable impact on battery life?

im using an iphone 7 plus and i wipe my camera every time i use it and theres no fingerprint scanner back there hahahaha people are weird

galaxyYtester said:
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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I hear you and agree with the caveat that people with small hands need to purchase a mobile that they can handle efficiently. The S8 and S8+ are not designed for people with small hands? Its very much a question of compromise. If one desires a screen as large as the S8's then one will need larger than average hands or accept small handed users will need two handed operation. :good:
I don't mind the scanner being where it is. I owned a zenphone with the scanner on the back right underneath the camera. I had zero problems after acclimatising myself to such a layout.
Ryland

I can comment on the fingerprint scanner, it is very fast - near instantaneous, the only issue is that it takes longer to hit the right spot that it does for it to open the phone. as everyone already mentioned it is in a bad/awkward spot. i tend to either hit the camera or the flash when trying to use it. eventually ill train myself to hit the right area, but its not intuitive.

Just checked the s8/s8+ out at Best Buy. The s8+ was perfect for me just doing a quick hands on with the finger print scanner. I thought it would be weird but it was easy for me to use but my hands are bigger than average.

Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.

dumpyloser said:
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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That is the other irritating thing about it being on the back, when I have the phone in a dock or on the desk I am going to end up picking it up to unlock it instead of just putting my finger on a front facing scanner. I know you can have the iris scanner AND the fingerprint scanner active, but with the iris scanner i would still have to pick the phone up to point it at my eyes so its pretty useless, it will need a pin like you said.

On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.

Lagamorph said:
On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....

ewokuk said:
Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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When I unlock the phone it's usually got my internet browser open which is likely what I'm going to be using, so I'm not looking to use the Home/Back buttons.

Screen sensitivity problem. Curved screen

I'm using "note 10 pro".
Nice device.
However, there is a "sensitivity problem" on the curved screen edges.
There are problems with the letters on the left and right sides of the keyboard.
Need to touch hard. Need to apply pressure.
There may be a software error.
Or they willingly reduced sensitivity.
How do I solve?

The edge of my screen where it starts to curve is not sensitive enough. The "1" and "0" and "a" and "p" keyboard keys are very difficult to press. I end up having to turn the phone side-ways so the screen flips making the keyboard position entirely on the flat part and not hitting the curved edge. This is very very frustrating to the point where I'm changing all passwords to not use any of those keys. Doesn't help much but a little. The phone got such great reviews but I find it very difficult to use because of the lack of sensitivity on the edges.

I don't have this issues with my 10pro. Maybe it's a broken device.
Gesendet von meinem Redmi Note 4 mit Tapatalk

Examine more carefully.
Touch the keyboard keys 10 times again in a row.
Tap hard. then soft tap.
You will notice.

Have absolutely no touch issue on my device. Zero. And I am very sensitive about things like that. I even use a UV Glue glass for it that I bought off ebay. (was bit messy to apply but I was prepared after using Whitestone glasses elsewhere.)
Aaanyhow. My device has superb sensitivity even with glass. IMO you have a faulty device.

I have also tried on different devices. they deliberately reduced the touch sensitivity on the rounded edges.
Please see in detail.
understand what I want to say.
I don't have a problem either.
I've tried it on 4 different devices.

sample:
Samsung has increased the sensitivity on the curved screen.
But it has developed a setting program for users.
xioami decreased sensitivity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg3s7DqNS6A

I hope it is corrected
https://c.mi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2819123&page=1&extra=#pid13776207

gokmenm said:
I hope it is corrected
https://c.mi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2819123&page=1&extra=#pid13776207
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Really don't know mate. Never had any touch issues out of the box with the stock firmware.
Nor had any touch issues on my OnePlus 7 Pro. Nor on my GF's Note 9. Nor on her Note 10 Plus. Nor on my mother's S7 Edge.
I don't know. Maybe you have huge hands?
Ps.: I get it that YOU have a problem. All I am trying to say is ... the phone itself works perfectly. Without any touch issues. It's either you, or your device.

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Really don't know mate. Never had any touch issues out of the box with the stock firmware.
Nor had any touch issues on my OnePlus 7 Pro. Nor on my GF's Note 9. Nor on her Note 10 Plus. Nor on my mother's S7 Edge.
I don't know. Maybe you have huge hands?
Ps.: I get it that YOU have a problem. All I am trying to say is ... the phone itself works perfectly. Without any touch issues. It's either you, or your device.
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my hands are not big
try touching the edges lightly and gently.
then tap the middle keys lightly.
You will notice.

h8Aramex said:
... Never had any touch issues out of the box with the stock firmware.
... Nor on her Note 10 Plus. Nor on my mother's S7 Edge. ...
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Hi, I don't know about the Mi Note 10 yet, but I definitely had a similar issue with the Galaxy S7 back in the day. It used to drive me crazy, because it happened while holding it with one hand in the car, and typing the number "1" for example was often hit or miss (I am right handed, normal hands). It's part of why I don't like curved screens and why I never bought another Samsung phone (I know Samsung mostly fixed the issue through updates).
I just ordered the Mi Note 10 despite of the curved screen, because of the camera. I didn't want to buy a phone from Hauwei and didn't want to wait for Samsung's S20, and the Mi Note 10 is at a killer price
Anyway, I hope I don't run into the same curve issue (worried).

gokmenm said:
I'm using "note 10 pro".
Nice device.
However, there is a "sensitivity problem" on the curved screen edges.
There are problems with the letters on the left and right sides of the keyboard.
Need to touch hard. Need to apply pressure.
There may be a software error.
Or they willingly reduced sensitivity.
How do I solve?
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I have no such issues.... The curve screen is more like edge.
And I am using Gboard as my keyboard and all the keys are working fine.

there is problem. make a very delicate soft touch.
Just touch the edge. tap very slowly.
also tap the middle of the screen.
there is a serious difference.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/enp898/touch_delay_on_the_borders_of_redmi_note_8_part_2/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/eqarbe/solution_screen_border_delay_problem/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/eqxtjx/note_10_screen_edge_sensitivity_very_little/

I am noticing a sensitivity issue with "p"/"0" on the upper right.
It doesn't register a light touch, it needs to be pressed deliberately and slower.
It's part of the reason I don't love curved edges.

truffle1234 said:
I have no such issues.... The curve screen is more like edge.
And I am using Gboard as my keyboard and all the keys are working fine.
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Same. Oh well, maybe SOME phones don't work that well?
Honestly I'd prefer NO curve, but I can't find an issue with it.
I hate MIUI way more that I can't make it allow my bloody notifications in DND. It's like the worst nightmare ever.

I have mi & galaxy s9+, both phone have same issue.
Samsung have a official app to fix this issue, but Mi not.
At first I try use 3rd App the disable edge touch,, but not useful like Samsung.
Now I just use a new case. The case just let my plam not possible touch on curve edge.

I recorded a sample video. We can add some programs with Turbo Game setting. We increase sensitivity. But it is not enough. We cannot select every program. Even if it is selected, it is not enough. The problem continues on the edges.
It seems to prove that this problem is a software problem.
There should be a "disable screen sensitivity limitation" button in settings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8yU614UYSg&feature=emb_title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wegoCOlDxso
please watch this video. Ad-free. I'm not youtuber
There are problems with letters on the left and right side of the keyboard.
It is necessary to touch hard. It is necessary to apply pressure.
There may be a software error or willfully reduced the sensitivity.
does not want the edges to be very sensitive xiaomi. And they took a stupid measure with the software.
xda developers can solve this problem.
Then xioami takes precautions.

The problems at the lower corners are caused by the gesture control. Turn off the gesture control and use the conventional buttons, then the problem is solved.
This is also the reason why some have the problem and some don't. Not everyone uses the gesture control.
i have also noticed a reduced sensitivity with the gesture control. As soon as you switch to the buttons everything is fine with the touch screen test.

I use the buttons.
There is problem. Use as you wish There is a problem with the edges and bottom corners.
The only method: an update.
Install the program I sent. try it too.
the center and edges of the screen and the bottom corners are different.
This problem bothers me on the keyboard.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.rallwell.siriuth.touchscreentest&hl=tr

I can reproduce the interrupted line test.
In the test i can place white dots on every part of the edge, but it gets only interrupted when drawing a line.
But it doesn't bother me when keyboard typing.
Keyboard works well even in the edges.
Do you use swipe typing, i'm not?
I'm using Fullscreen Gestures and never noticed any problems with edge sensitivity.
My device is Global Firmware (11.0.7), not Global EEA.

Question Do "approved" screen covers help with fingerprint scanner?

So I searched around and didn't find an exact answer so sorry if this has been asked/answered before. 6A with a Tocol glass screen cover. I was actually getting decent results prior to the Android 13 update but ever since the fingerprint reader is almost useless. I have deleted and relearned fingerprints multiple times both with and without increasing the screen sensitivity but nothing has worked. Has anyone tried the google approved screen covers and did they help?

It seems that most glass screen protectors work just okay for fingerprint in my experience. I have figured out that the trick seems to be setting it up right. The instructions indicate that you need to move you finger into various positions, but instead I have found that it is better to just use the finger position you typically will use but in varying degrees of pressure on the screen. I hope that makes sense....in other words it helps to put your finger on the screen lightly, then keep it in essentially the same position but press slightly harder several times.

neatojones said:
It seems that most glass screen protectors work just okay for fingerprint in my experience. I have figured out that the trick seems to be setting it up right. The instructions indicate that you need to move you finger into various positions, but instead I have found that it is better to just use the finger position you typically will use but in varying degrees of pressure on the screen. I hope that makes sense....in other words it helps to put your finger on the screen lightly, then keep it in essentially the same position but press slightly harder several times.
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Hmmm...that's an interesting idea. I'll have to give it a try, I've tried everything else. At some point I'll take the time to just remove my screen cover to see if it helps. Thanks!

I register my most used finger more than once and then some other fingers as well. For this phone, I registered my thumb twice (same thumb), index finger, and then another finger on my other hand.

JoeHockey said:
Hmmm...that's an interesting idea. I'll have to give it a try, I've tried everything else. At some point I'll take the time to just remove my screen cover to see if it helps. Thanks!
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How did it go?

If you are rooted there is also a sexy magisk module that will boost the scanner

Arealhooman said:
If you are rooted there is also a sexy magisk module that will boost the scanner
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Which one? name/ link?

tusher3365 said:
Which one? name/ link?
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[MODULE] Fingerprint Scanner Booster
Fingerprint Scanner Booster It does what the title says! It boosts Fingerprint sensor's responsiveness by prioritizing its process. If you use custom roms and those roms have a little delay with unlocking the device using the fingerprint...
forum.xda-developers.com

I've been using an old generic matte PET screen protector designed for an older pixel phone without any problems, so i don't think you need to get an "approved" one. I didn't increase sensitivity setting either.
6a's fingerprint reader works consistently for me, except maybe a rare misread every few months because my finger was very dry or something. In those instances, I unlock successfully with my other registered finger.