All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
I'm a lefty so I'm just going to run my finger along the back until I feel the sensor. Doubt I'll have many problems with wiping my camera lense. And I also rarely take pictures so I have that going for me as well.
Looks like you will be covering up at least 50% of the camera at the same time.
I dont even think about to use fingerprint sensor on s8+
Nope!
I'm just the opposite. If I try to do it with my left index finger, the scanner is too close. It's awkward for me to try using my left index finger. With the UAG case, I'll easily be able to keep away from the camera lense.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
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The LG V20 has the fingerprint scanner on the back. I don't know until I see the actual device, but I think the S8 once you get used to it, it should be fine.
I don't think it will be much of an issue either. But the S8 is just so fantastic you need to find a con somewhere
Honestly, I won't even use it. I hold my phone really low compared to most, I guess.
Can someone confirm how fast/reliable the iris scanner is? Also, does having it on make a noticeable impact on battery life?
im using an iphone 7 plus and i wipe my camera every time i use it and theres no fingerprint scanner back there hahahaha people are weird
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Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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I hear you and agree with the caveat that people with small hands need to purchase a mobile that they can handle efficiently. The S8 and S8+ are not designed for people with small hands? Its very much a question of compromise. If one desires a screen as large as the S8's then one will need larger than average hands or accept small handed users will need two handed operation. :good:
I don't mind the scanner being where it is. I owned a zenphone with the scanner on the back right underneath the camera. I had zero problems after acclimatising myself to such a layout.
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I can comment on the fingerprint scanner, it is very fast - near instantaneous, the only issue is that it takes longer to hit the right spot that it does for it to open the phone. as everyone already mentioned it is in a bad/awkward spot. i tend to either hit the camera or the flash when trying to use it. eventually ill train myself to hit the right area, but its not intuitive.
Just checked the s8/s8+ out at Best Buy. The s8+ was perfect for me just doing a quick hands on with the finger print scanner. I thought it would be weird but it was easy for me to use but my hands are bigger than average.
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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That is the other irritating thing about it being on the back, when I have the phone in a dock or on the desk I am going to end up picking it up to unlock it instead of just putting my finger on a front facing scanner. I know you can have the iris scanner AND the fingerprint scanner active, but with the iris scanner i would still have to pick the phone up to point it at my eyes so its pretty useless, it will need a pin like you said.
On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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When I unlock the phone it's usually got my internet browser open which is likely what I'm going to be using, so I'm not looking to use the Home/Back buttons.
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So I was thinking about the issue of palm wrap. I think the implementation of it would be fairly simple. This would probably require root access, but I digress.
You would basically disregard any input happening within 1/8" - 1/4" on the border of the screen. Well not any inputs, but any prolonged inputs. Like the inputs that happen when your fingers hang off the edge of the screen, or the palm of your hand grazing the screen when you try to press something with your thumb.
There are very few programs that use the full screen, especially near the edges. If there are it would just be a matter of putting the anti-registration on hold when the app is in the foreground.
You could even create a setting for "fat" fingers and "slim" fingers. The fatter the finger, the further out you would disregard inputs from there.
The caveat being that you have to have it running on the system level. Now that google has finally added multi touch support on their apps, I wouldn't be surprised if you have access to input information on the system level.
(I know jack about making programs on adroid, but the rum is helping my mind think)
What do you guys think?
I haven't had palm wrap problems since I bought my seidio innocase. Adds a little beef to the unit as a whole (just a little, nothing major) but keeps my palm off the edges of the screen.
i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone
Good idea my friend.
Just out of curiosity, does everyone here hold there phone in one hand and use the other to input anything? Because I can't see any palmwrap problem unless I do this.
I almost exclusively use my nexus with one hand doing inputs with my thumb if I'm not in landscape mode and I've never had any problems with palm wrap (I might be misunderstanding the concept completely though, so feel free to correct me).
I guess it depends on the length of your fingers the base of my thumb is what mostly affects one handed use for me.
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i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone
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[off-topic] That is 'not' a good road to follow...get one of the soft cases or atleast the skins that you dont even notice it (personally I bought THIS and its amazing, has amazing 'grip' and it fits perfectly, unnoticeable).
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I dont seem to have this problem either. But it could be helpful to others with bigger hands maybe?
I have this problem sometimes and it is annoying as heck. I don't even think you need to go to all that trouble to fix it. I think just enabling multitouch on the dexktop might fix it. Don't know how difficult that would be though.
Hi, I have just bought my new S7 and setup my fingerprint on it.
I didn't have fingerprint on my old phone so I can't compare it but I find it really inaccurate..
It gives me alot of wrongs if I am not landing my finger perfectly centered and sometimes even when it is, its still wrong..
I have tried to reassign fingerprints which does improve it for that couple of minutes but later on when I grab my phone and try to unlock it I get so many wrongs..
Is it just me? or any one else find it frustrating?
Any tips to improve it?
Thanks.
Mine never has issues, if your hands are clean and not prone to being sweaty then I would exchange it.
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Hi, I have just bought my new S7 and setup my fingerprint on it.
I didn't have fingerprint on my old phone so I can't compare it but I find it really inaccurate..
It gives me alot of wrongs if I am not landing my finger perfectly centered and sometimes even when it is, its still wrong..
I have tried to reassign fingerprints which does improve it for that couple of minutes but later on when I grab my phone and try to unlock it I get so many wrongs..
Is it just me? or any one else find it frustrating?
Any tips to improve it?
Thanks.
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Unlike naturally how we expect it to work or how the other sensors like iPhone's, Nexus 6p's etc. works, with Galaxy S7 you should be careful when registering the fingerprint because of the relatively small surface area of the sensor. To make it clear, you can cover almost the whole finger print (considering the relatively large rounded shape of the sensor) in various other devices. While in the case of S7 you should only register the fingerprint in the way your finger will naturally positioned when unlocking. In my case considering the thumb, only an edge of the thumb will only get in contact with the sensor not the the center part or the other areas of the print. So just register the print in the way you normally hold and unlock the phone not keeping in a flat area and registering. If this works there is nothing wrong with the sensor. Otherwise you gonna need to replace the unit.
PS: Correct me if I'm wrong @cadcamaro ;-P
try registering same finger 2 or 3 times, this helps a lot increasing the accuracy of the scanner.
tip and sides of the finger is very important when registering
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Unlike naturally how we expect it to work or how the other sensors like iPhone's, Nexus 6p's etc. works, with Galaxy S7 you should be careful when registering the fingerprint because of the relatively small surface area of the sensor. To make it clear, you can cover almost the whole finger print (considering the relatively large rounded shape of the sensor) in various other devices. While in the case of S7 you should only register the fingerprint in the way your finger will naturally positioned when unlocking. In my case considering the thumb, only an edge of the thumb will only get in contact with the sensor not the the center part or the other areas of the print. So just register the print in the way you normally hold and unlock the phone not keeping in a flat area and registering. If this works there is nothing wrong with the sensor. Otherwise you gonna need to replace the unit.
PS: Correct me if I'm wrong @cadcamaro ;-P
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I personally set up my thumb when my phone is in my hand already, I also make sure that I move my thumb around and read as much of it as possible.
Thanks for all of your tips!!
I don't think my sensor is defected, it works after all..
I'll try the trick for registering only the tip of the thumb which indeed is what usually presses the button.. in fact I did register that part but not only that..
And about the register more than one time the same finger, does this thing actually recommended?
I mean its kinda ruin the machine learning of that thing.. it gets 2 different fingers that looks alike isn't it?
For me, using the thumb only works if I use/register the center of the thumb. The tip never works, but I can live with that. Center always works
works perfectly for me. in comparison to my S6's finger print sensor, this one is 10x better - faster to recognize and unlock and much more accurate.
As a left-handed, I almost always hold my phone in my right hand. This means my index finger naturally falls over the S8 fingerprint scanner. Also, there is only the small, stiff power button on the right side of the S8 so I don't end up pressing buttons inadvertently with my thumb as I do with many other phones. This is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used. If you are a lefty let us know how you feel about using the S8/S8+ in your world.
Well, I'm right handed, but I do hold my phone in the right hand 99% of the time. Maybe, as you've said, that's the reason I too never had a problem with the fingerprint scanner.
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Well, I'm right handed, but I do hold my phone in the right hand 99% of the time. Maybe, as you've said, that's the reason I too never had a problem with the fingerprint scanner.
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So then the question becomes, "What percentage of people hold their phones mostly in their dominant hand?"
I don't but you do. The S8 has similar button layout to the iPhone - two on the left and one on the right. So I imagine that Apple and Samsung have drawn similar conclusions from studies that answer that question.
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As a left-handed, I almost always hold my phone in my right hand. This means my index finger naturally falls over the S8 fingerprint scanner. Also, there is only the small, stiff power button on the right side of the S8 so I don't end up pressing buttons inadvertently with my thumb as I do with many other phones. This is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used. If you are a lefty let us know how you feel about using the S8/S8+ in your world.
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You make it seem like it is perfectly natural that a left handed person holds the phone with the right hand. That is simply not true.
This is the most painful layout regarding fingerprint sensor for a leftie (you know the one that holds the phone with left hand) . The rest of the physical keys are fine for both hands. Soft keys are always contentious, therefore it is very nice being able to switch back and multitasking.
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You make it seem like it is perfectly natural that a left handed person holds the phone with the right hand. That is simply not true.
This is the most painful layout regarding fingerprint sensor for a leftie (you know the one that holds the phone with left hand) . The rest of the physical keys are fine for both hands. Soft keys are always contentious, therefore it is very nice being able to switch back and multitasking.
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Try reading my very next post before proceeding to do exactly what you have just accused me of doing.
Being a left-handed, I used to hold my phone with my left hand (and navigate with the thumb). My main problem was the generalization of the flip covers (replacing the covers that opened downwards), and all the flip covers open to the left. So it was impossible to open the cover if holding the phone with the left hand. I had to learn how to hold my phone with my right hand, now it feels mostly natural and I'm navigating mostly with my right thumb.
I also bought the LED cover, which has separate "window" for the fingerprint scanner, so it's easy for me to find it. The only problem is when the cover is opened, I can't access the sensor, so I'm using iris unlock.
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Try reading my very next post before proceeding to do exactly what you have just accused me of doing.
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To summarize your first post.
You are a leftie that uses the phone in right hand. Therefore:
"this is the most left-handed friendly phone I have ever used."
End of summary.
Yes I simply responded to your initial post and this statement, among others.
So where does the left hand come into play. Lefties have learned to live in a world of right handed people. But to praise the regular scissors as leftie friendly, cause it frees my left hand to eat and jerk off, while I'm cutting something...
Your second post simply posits that samsung and apple cater to a majority. You make it seem as though they did some studies how many lefties hold their phones in right hand, and came to a conclusion.
They did not have to. Right handed people hold phone in dominant hand, and they are the majority of the population. End of story. Which makes this thread....
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If this is what you call a summary I’d hate to see your detailed explanations. This is the longest post in this thread. BTW, 100s of millions of people hold their phone in their non-dominant hand for various reasons. One being that people with smaller hands often type with their dominant hand and hold the phone with the other.
Fixed it for you. Peace.
Guilty though. Yes I tend to elaborate and make essays with my responses.
All the best.
Still definitely disagree that fingerprint location is left handed friendly.
It would have been too much to ask to have it below camera , centered as others. Now that would have been something useful. But no, therefore it stands unused on my phone.
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I'm trying to find out if my device is faulty as the finger print sensor is extremely inconsistent.
Previously capacitive finger print sensors I've used have pretty much been flawless unless your finger was dirty or wet, but I'm getting far too many failures to unlock the Fold2. I'm either greeted with "No match", "Cover the entire sensor" or "Wipe the finger print sensor" messages. It's very temperamental - I can click the button to turn the screen and keep my finger in place and it will give me "No match", if I slightly raise my finger off the button and rest it back on the sensor with my finger in place it will unlock....
I have registered this finger (index on right hand) 4 times in the settings. I can test my fingers in the biometrics section of the app and it seems to register a print every time so it looks like it's an issue with how the sensor works when actually unlocking the phone.
Works fine here, but disabled it. The placement is ridiculous!
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Same thing for me, works fine in apps and elsewhere but unlocking the screen is as frustrating as hell..... had the same issue with the S10e but hoped they had improved things. On research (since the S10e) I believe this only affects certain types of people like me with certain types of skin/fingerprint characteristics. Rear fingerprint scanners are no issue for me at all, it's just side mount !!
It took some getting used to but I like it now. I do wish they where up higher.
I noticed that the way I hold the phone and the placement of the sensor had me using the side of my index and thumb rather than the center of either. I put both in again while being careful to use the side rather center of my finger and it works fine now. Another thing that's a little of a push is that you can set it to always hot which helps. The push part comes in because you can trigger it enough while simply holding the phone that you'll max your attempts accidentally and have to put in your password.
Works fine for me, but as others say, the placement is awful. Holding the closed phone in your hand the way you normally would and you touch the sensor causing the 5 attempted unlocks to kick in so I often end up needing to use pattern unlock.
Works much faster than the Z Flip. But the placement is terrible.
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I am not sure they could have placed it anywhere else.
An in-screen one on the front wouldn't be helpful when you are using the inner screen, and one on the back would be very awkward with the phone open, especially as the inner screen is probably used equally in both portrait and landscape. Certainly wouldn't expect one on the inner screen anyway, the technology is not up to that yet.
But compared to my Note 20 Ultra, the fingerprint reader on the Fold 2 is far more reliable and quicker in my experience.
As someone else said here, the trick is to register your thumb predominantly and scan the edges of your thumb. Note how you hold your phone and use the sensor naturally and use that part of your thumb or finger when registering your prints. And register more than one set using the same finger or thumb.
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Flawless for me
It's a million times better than the S20 series!
Much better than the Flip.
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Works perfectly for me. Better than my Note 10+ did. I like a physical button much better than in-screen. That being said, my N20U fingerprint scanner also works better than the N10+. I have small hands so that might also help. I don't think the placement would be that good for my Husband's large hands though...
Works fine for me!
its fine for me. i had to set it for a few fingers though based on the diff ways of holding it
OG Fold user here and it's absolutely awful and inconsistent for me. Easily the worst scanner I've ever used in a phone.
My problem is locating it on the side of the phone if there was some sort of indentation or something to better locate it, I think it would work better.
I find it pretty reliable to the point that I can unlock it without trying based on how I reach for my phone in my pocket. I also find it mostly well-placed when holding it with the main screen open and using it for apps or to unlock the phone.
I'm coming a OnePlus 9 and I'm noticing that the screen is far too sensitive on my P7P. For example, when I click on a notification banner, it thinks I'm long pressing and presents me with the options to "Silent," "Default," and "Priority" the banner notification. I've also noticed when I swipe left or right to go back, it will count it as double as the haptic feedback is felt twice.
I didn't know until after purchasing that Pixels were notorious for having bad finger print scanners. This one is worse that my OP9. I have a screen protector to put on still, perhaps it will make it just right at that point.
Well, the finger print scanner is even worse than on Oneplus Nord. And I also have accidental long presses. I am actually quite disappointed with the phone.
One more thing that I dislike is how the navigation buttons have gaps between them. I constantly tap on those gaps and nothing happens. And if you use gestures, swiping to go back conflicts with swiping to open the side menu in apps.
I was hoping that this device was going to keep me happier than my OP9, oh well. it's still an early release. Hopefully it gets better with firmware upgrades. OP has gone down hill and that's why I'm here. If this fails, I'm going to submit to iOS (wait, did I just say that?!)
I did just put a screen protector on. I'm hoping that will kill some of the sensitivity. I went with the Milomdoi from Amazon. It was the best out of the 3 or 4 I ordered (sent back the ones I didn't did like). Installed pretty easy... despit the one small dust spec I missed in the far right corner. It'll be OK. The case almost covers it up. I'll report back if the screen protector improves the touch at all. I not hopeful though haha
You both might have some bad displays, my fingerprint scanner is far better and faster on the Pixel 7 pro than my OnePlus 9 Pro. I don't recall any issue with the touch sensitivity so far.
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I'm coming a OnePlus 9 and I'm noticing that the screen is far too sensitive on my P7P. For example, when I click on a notification banner, it thinks I'm long pressing and presents me with the options to "Silent," "Default," and "Priority" the banner notification. I've also noticed when I swipe left or right to go back, it will count it as double as the haptic feedback is felt twice.
I didn't know until after purchasing that Pixels were notorious for having bad finger print scanners. This one is worse that my OP9. I have a screen protector to put on still, perhaps it will make it just right at that point.
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Try going to Settings>Accessibility>Interaction controls>Timing Controls>Touch & Hold Delay and set it to Medium.
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Try going to Settings>Accessibility>Interaction controls>Timing Controls>Touch & Hold Delay and set it to Medium.
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Just when you thought you scoured the all device's settings. I'll give this a shot and see what it does (so far so good). Thanks!
I re-registered my fingerprints too. Hopefully that will improve recognition.
On a same note, could someone please tell me if this is normal: https://giphy.com/gifs/COEoRqIfJdhpWTxoKC
When I adjust the brightness and leave the touch input for a bit, the slider goes all over the place. It's pretty annoying and doesn't seem that the slider should act this way.
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On a same note, could someone please tell me if this is normal: https://giphy.com/gifs/COEoRqIfJdhpWTxoKC
When I adjust the brightness and leave the touch input for a bit, the slider goes all over the place. It's pretty annoying and doesn't seem that the slider should act this way.
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Didnt noticed until now , does the same on mine.
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Didnt noticed until now , does the same on mine.
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The reason you didn't notice is that like almost everyone, you don't let your finger linger on the slider, but slide it to where you want it and let go
Nick James said:
Just when you thought you scoured the all device's settings. I'll give this a shot and see what it does (so far so good). Thanks!
I re-registered my fingerprints too. Hopefully that will improve recognition.
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Now tap and hold is too long when on medium. Why wouldn't they have this adjustable in ms instead of three preset options.
The fingerprint reader has been perfect for me (so much better than on the 6 Pro) but I agree about the screen sensitivity. It's too sensitive.
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I'm coming a OnePlus 9 and I'm noticing that the screen is far too sensitive on my P7P. For example, when I click on a notification banner, it thinks I'm long pressing and presents me with the options to "Silent," "Default," and "Priority" the banner notification. I've also noticed when I swipe left or right to go back, it will count it as double as the haptic feedback is felt twice.
I didn't know until after purchasing that Pixels were notorious for having bad finger print scanners. This one is worse that my OP9. I have a screen protector to put on still, perhaps it will make it just right at that point.
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Absolutely zero issues with the fingerprint reader here, I find it just as reliable and even quicker than my S21 Ultra and that is with a protector.
I suggest it's either a bad screen protector install (air bubbles around the fingerprint area would cause havoc with it) or maybe it's just not a good protector for use with an optical scanner.