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Palm Wrap Eliminator?(Thinking Out Loud)

So I was thinking about the issue of palm wrap. I think the implementation of it would be fairly simple. This would probably require root access, but I digress.
You would basically disregard any input happening within 1/8" - 1/4" on the border of the screen. Well not any inputs, but any prolonged inputs. Like the inputs that happen when your fingers hang off the edge of the screen, or the palm of your hand grazing the screen when you try to press something with your thumb.
There are very few programs that use the full screen, especially near the edges. If there are it would just be a matter of putting the anti-registration on hold when the app is in the foreground.
You could even create a setting for "fat" fingers and "slim" fingers. The fatter the finger, the further out you would disregard inputs from there.
The caveat being that you have to have it running on the system level. Now that google has finally added multi touch support on their apps, I wouldn't be surprised if you have access to input information on the system level.
(I know jack about making programs on adroid, but the rum is helping my mind think)
What do you guys think?

I haven't had palm wrap problems since I bought my seidio innocase. Adds a little beef to the unit as a whole (just a little, nothing major) but keeps my palm off the edges of the screen.

i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone

Good idea my friend.

Just out of curiosity, does everyone here hold there phone in one hand and use the other to input anything? Because I can't see any palmwrap problem unless I do this.
I almost exclusively use my nexus with one hand doing inputs with my thumb if I'm not in landscape mode and I've never had any problems with palm wrap (I might be misunderstanding the concept completely though, so feel free to correct me).

I guess it depends on the length of your fingers the base of my thumb is what mostly affects one handed use for me.

JHaste said:
i like this idea simply because I do not want to buy any sort of case for the phone
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[off-topic] That is 'not' a good road to follow...get one of the soft cases or atleast the skins that you dont even notice it (personally I bought THIS and its amazing, has amazing 'grip' and it fits perfectly, unnoticeable).
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I dont seem to have this problem either. But it could be helpful to others with bigger hands maybe?

I have this problem sometimes and it is annoying as heck. I don't even think you need to go to all that trouble to fix it. I think just enabling multitouch on the dexktop might fix it. Don't know how difficult that would be though.

Phone Lefty or Righty?

Sorta an odd question, but it hit me this morning while I was on my morning commute.
Which hand do you normally hold you phone in? I'm right handed, but my left is my phone hand. I'm sure this goes back to the PDA days when I held the PDA in my left and wrote or tapped with the stylus with my right hand. Even when I'm doing one handed operations like talking on the phone or reading a book, it's still almost always in my left.
I would guess that this is true for most people. Even in a finger friendly era I think most people would hold in left and touch with their right (dominate) hand.
Now, given this, doesn't it make more sense for slide out keyboards to slide out to the right? I may be biased as my first slide out was a XV6800 which did slide out from the right. But this just seemed natural. I'm holding my phone in my left, then I want to type. So I just rotate the top down to the right, into my hand, and flip up the screen.
I'm using a Touch Pro2 now, which has a left sliding keyboard. Now to when I want to type I have to rotate the bottom of the phone up out of my palm to grab it with my right and then flip up the screen.
To be sure, this is a very minor issue and not something I'm going to lose a lot of sleep over, but it just seems that a righty keyboard is a more fluid motion for people who hold their phones in their left hand. And I suspect that most of us are lefty-phone people. Just curious what the rest of y'all think.

Left handed
I´m left handed and hold my device with my right hand.
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I'm left handed and I hold my phone in my left hand. I do almost all my phone operation one-handed and if I need to do something that requires two-hand operation (typing in landscape for example) I hold my phone with both hands and use my thumbs. And I personally prefer phone keyboards to come out from the left.

Android big design problem.

hi guys...
since i started using an android phone i've been surprised of how the interface is poorly designed for the comfort of the user, one of the major issues for me is the "back button", and the problem is a lot worst with phones with screens over 4". everytime you need to go back you have to move your finger to the lower part of the phone where this button is located and if you dont have big hands it is very uncomfortable, it is even painful after a while,
i think that those buttons should be removed from android, now with ics and jellybean there is that software buttons that keep the same problem and also are a waste of space on the screen.
every app should have its own "back button" in some place that is easy to reach with your finger like the apps for the iphone ( dont kill me for using the iphone like an example in this particular aspect).
what do you guys think???

rodmc123 said:
hi guys...
since i started using an android phone i've been surprised of how the interface is poorly designed for the comfort of the user, one of the major issues for me is the "back button", and the problem is a lot worst with phones with screens over 4". everytime you need to go back you have to move your finger to the lower part of the phone where this button is located and if you dont have big hands it is very uncomfortable, it is even painful after a while,
i think that those buttons should be removed from android, now with ics and jellybean there is that software buttons that keep the same problem and also are a waste of space on the screen.
every app should have its own "back button" in some place that is easy to reach with your finger like the apps for the iphone ( dont kill me for using the iphone like an example in this particular aspect).
what do you guys think???
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Well, iPhone has the back button embedded in the app and many are saying they need to implement dedicated back key in their phones. So its all about personal choice bro.
And I don't think Android needs to remove the back key and if you've used an iPhone you would know the hassle using it without a back button. Many iOS apps have back key located at various areas in their UI. So a normal user, who don't have much experience in using smartphones would get confused easily. But if dedicated back key is there, it makes all easy.
EDIT: Regarding the ICS/JB soft-keys option, if the manufactures think its a waste of space, they can simply disable it by modifying a line in one of the xml files. And if they decide they need not have to give their phones any hardware/capacitive buttons, they'll enable it. So google have given this feature as optional, and why would anyone think of removing that handy feature.

coolsandie said:
Well, iPhone has the back button embedded in the app and many are saying they need to implement dedicated back key in their phones. So its all about personal choice bro.
And I don't think Android needs to remove the back key and if you've used an iPhone you would know the hassle using it without a back button. Many iOS apps have back key located at various areas in their UI. So a normal user, who don't have much experience in using smartphones could get confused easily. But if dedicated back key is there, it makes all easy.
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i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it

rodmc123 said:
i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it
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After all, everyone gets a User-Manual with their phones. And every people that have paid for their new shiny phone would die to boot up fast and they'll look around, and by looking around they can easily know, the arrow stands for the Back key. :silly:

rodmc123 said:
i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it
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The main problem of the iphones back button is, is that sometimes it had different words, its in different places within the app, and its not simply a back button sometimes.
For example, when I use the keyboard on iOS, I have to tap on an area in the screen to close the keyboard, whereas on android its just a simple tap of the back button. Its just extremely consistent and I found myself tapping the empty area next to the home button on an ipod touch more than a few times expecting there to be a back button.
Although I have never used something as big as the One X, I imagine it would be hard (as you said) to reach the button without risking dropping the phone. But then I guess you buy a phone that fits your hand size, not something too big that you know will be a hassle
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If you use your left hand to hold the phone, why can't u use your little finger of your left hand to press the back button (it's convenient to me)
If u use the right hand, u can use the thumb of the right hand to press back.
Just my advice, no offence

rodmc123 said:
i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it
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You sound a bit like the commercial for the iphone5 with all that trollin arround here :laugh:
The 4" the sane size for a phone!!! -like speech etc.
If you don't like it you don't buy it. What is all that wining???

chaki- said:
You sound a bit like the commercial for the iphone5 with all that trollin arround here :laugh:
The 4" the sane size for a phone!!! -like speech etc.
If you don't like it you don't buy it. What is all that wining???
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this is not an iphone vs android discussion.. i do not say the back button is not useful the thing is that the location of the button is very uncomfortable in devices with a big screen if you dont have huge hands.
i like 4,3" and 4,7" screens thats why i have a 4,3 screen.. but with the back button down there, atleast for my hand size, it is very annoying to use.
really nobody else noticed this issue?? i mean your finger is most of the time at the middle of the screen and from there you move it like a compass to the upper and lowwer part of the screen, now take a phone with a 4,3 (or bigger) display and try to do that, you have to use your other hand or you have to somehow move the phone so the bottom (where the back button is located) is reachable for your finger and in that process you can drop the phone or end up with tendinitis after a long time of use.

Mitch_Faiz_555 said:
If you use your left hand to hold the phone, why can't u use your little finger of your left hand to press the back button (it's convenient to me)
If u use the right hand, u can use the thumb of the right hand to press back.
Just my advice, no offence
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sorry but what you say does not make any sense, your "little finger" might be ridiculously large and flexible to do that.
chaki- said:
You sound a bit like the commercial for the iphone5 with all that trollin arround here :laugh:
The 4" the sane size for a phone!!! -like speech etc.
If you don't like it you don't buy it. What is all that wining???
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do you know what is constructive criticism?? i like android, i like my phone i just wish they can improve the back button thing.. is that too much for you?

Personal preference. I like the dedicated back and menu buttons.
Never had a problem with them, makes switching or going through apps much faster than having to locate the back button on each app (which is not always obvious where they put it)

I'm asian. My fingers are relatively smaller than you guys but for me the buttons are very convenient to use. Mine is the S2.
Navigation bar is not a waste of the screen. Why? Because it's not just back key. There are recent apps and home too. For a futuristic full touch phone without any buttons, what do you expect for the alternatives of those 2 other keys? Gestures? That will be hard to be used.
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rodmc123 said:
sorry but what you say does not make any sense, your "little finger" might be ridiculously large and flexible to do that.
do you know what is constructive criticism?? i like android, i like my phone i just wish they can improve the back button thing.. is that too much for you?
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It's really is a personal choice.
I personally love the back button, have no problems using it with one hand, nor do with GF with her small hands and Optimus 4X HD, which is a larger phone than my Galaxy S2. Both of us cite the back button as a large factor contributing to the usability of Android.
If you don't like the back button, you can always switch to the iPhone. This is such a rare complain that I must say that you, OP, are in the sheer minority.
To add on, the fact that Windows Phone implements a back button as well shows that this is a feature that is beneficial rather than detrimental as you believe.

Logi_Ca1 said:
It's really is a personal choice.
I personally love the back button, have no problems using it with one hand, nor do with GF with her small hands and Optimus 4X HD, which is a larger phone than my Galaxy S2. Both of us cite the back button as a large factor contributing to the usability of Android.
If you don't like the back button, you can always switch to the iPhone. This is such a rare complain that I must say that you, OP, are in the sheer minority.
To add on, the fact that Windows Phone implements a back button as well shows that this is a feature that is beneficial rather than detrimental as you believe.
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i repeat, im not saying the back button is not useful!! all im saying is that the button is not well placed it is just an ergonomic problem.
for example, it would be a lot more easy to reach if they move to button to the side of the phone (contrary to the volume buttons), i know it sounds like weird place to put it, but if you take your phone you will notice that is a place where you always could easy reach the button without using your other hand or move the phone.

I like the back button too. As I don't need to rely on app developer to setup a back button

rodmc123 said:
i repeat, im not saying the back button is not useful!! all im saying is that the button is not well placed it is just an ergonomic problem.
for example, it would be a lot more easy to reach if they move to button to the side of the phone (contrary to the volume buttons), i know it sounds like weird place to put it, but if you take your phone you will notice that is a place where you always could easy reach the button without using your other hand or move the phone.
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You could use this app (requires root though) :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smart.swkey
It provides on screen functionality for navigation keys, which could be placed anywhere on the screen of your choice.

rodmc123, may I aks what device you are using? I believe it's also a manner of the ergonomics of the device itself. Many flagship devices have large screens and while design is nice, ergonomics may lose. I use the HTC One S momentarily (planning to rid it when new Nexus phones appeal), which is 2.56 by 5.15 inch, with a (screen) diagonal of 4.3 inch. That's too large for me to handle with one hand. Even though I'm not having much trouble using both hands most of the time, I do find it inconvinient I have to.
And indeed, there's the software button vs hardware button discussion. I believe it is simply mostly due to the ergonomics of the device itself, and depending on the OEM, software overlays creating additional bugs. Again, I'm a HTC user, got quite a bit of these stupid design flaws myself.

I can see the OP's point here, I started of with an HTC Hero which had quite a unique design with it's angled "chin" It was just the right size for one-handed operation. I upgraded to an HTC Sensation, being left handed, I run into trouble reaching the home button with my thumb. In fact using all the Hardware buttons at the bottom of the device does require shifting upwards in my palm.
It's got me wondering, would the hardware buttons be better off at the top? This being Android of course we don't need to wonder, we can try it out! Cyanogenmod for example allows full 360 rotation, although I might have to hack the Launcher a little bit to move the static app bar, I'm sure there was a setting for that pre-cm9, No matter it's just a case of editing the source or the layout xml. I'll just have to get used the upside down symbols.

Senzune said:
rodmc123, may I aks what device you are using? I believe it's also a manner of the ergonomics of the device itself. Many flagship devices have large screens and while design is nice, ergonomics may lose. I use the HTC One S momentarily (planning to rid it when new Nexus phones appeal), which is 2.56 by 5.15 inch, with a (screen) diagonal of 4.3 inch. That's too large for me to handle with one hand. Even though I'm not having much trouble using both hands most of the time, I do find it inconvinient I have to.
And indeed, there's the software button vs hardware button discussion. I believe it is simply mostly due to the ergonomics of the device itself, and depending on the OEM, software overlays creating additional bugs. Again, I'm a HTC user, got quite a bit of these stupid design flaws myself.
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i have a motorola atrix 2.. anyway i dont think its the ergonomics of this particular device, i think any phone with a big screen would have the same issue with the back button placed at the bottom.
like i said, at the opposite side of the volume buttons would be the best place if you think of the position of your hand and your fingers when you are holding the phone.

SURVEY: Which hand do you use to operate your phone?

After reading about the sony xperia ZL's camera being on the bottom right and someone commented that right hand users will have problem with it, I realized that I actually use my left hand to operate my phone mostly even though I am right-handed. I think this is interesting to know, which is why I am making this survey to get the data. These are the options:
A) I am right-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my right-hand.
B) I am right-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my left-hand.
C) I am left-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my left-hand.
D) I am left-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my right-hand.

A.
But it really depends on what I'm doing.

Depends.
Right, It changes for me depending on the application .
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A.
But it really depends on what I'm doing.
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C. maybe i have stronger grip at my left than my right hand..
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I'm predominantly use my right hand, but I often put my phone on my left side.
But still, it most comfortable to grab the phone with my right hand although crossing sides made it rather impractical. :laugh:
Usually I navigate with my right thumb, and write with both thumb because xray is a small one. :good::good:

Depends on what you need to do. For phones call - only right hand is OK. But for other things i prefer to grab phone with left hand and "do the job" with rigth

A but i keep a large size phone so i use it with both hands.
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Lefty! i go full stupid when trying to use my right thumb for anything other than typing.

*A*

Both hands. Whichever free
But I'm more comfy with right handed use(of course I'm right handed)!
life!

A.
Only when i play or i do zoom i use the left hand

A.
left hand to hold the phone, right hand to control it as i can't use one hand only to control the large screen

A, but if I'm using my right hand for something else, like writing or using a mouse, i switch the the left.

C
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Hold the phone with left hand and touch with right hand.
If use with only one hand, use right hand.

C. i always use left hand

lallolu said:
After reading about the sony xperia ZL's camera being on the bottom right and someone commented that right hand users will have problem with it, I realized that I actually use my left hand to operate my phone mostly even though I am right-handed. I think this is interesting to know, which is why I am making this survey to get the data. These are the options:
A) I am right-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my right-hand.
B) I am right-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my left-hand.
C) I am left-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my left-hand.
D) I am left-handed and I operate my phone mostly with my right-hand.
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FTW? You're right-handed but you use your left hand for phone? (the only vote in the poll??)
I'm left-handed but I use right hand for my phone just as everyone else.
BTW, you should include extra options for operating phone with both hand since the phones are getting bigger

CressKH said:
FTW? You're right-handed but you use your left hand for phone? (the only vote in the poll??)
I'm left-handed but I use right hand for my phone just as everyone else.
BTW, you should include extra options for operating phone with both hand since the phones are getting bigger
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I noticed, I am the only one doing that... I must be a strange one.
Thanks for your advice, I missed that option which seems to be a popular one and I can't seem to find a way to edit the poll.

Both hands
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Usually left but i mostly use both.
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Fingerprint Scranner Location A Problem? No!

All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.

Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will

BleedCrimson said:
All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.

I'm a lefty so I'm just going to run my finger along the back until I feel the sensor. Doubt I'll have many problems with wiping my camera lense. And I also rarely take pictures so I have that going for me as well.

Looks like you will be covering up at least 50% of the camera at the same time.

I dont even think about to use fingerprint sensor on s8+

Nope!
I'm just the opposite. If I try to do it with my left index finger, the scanner is too close. It's awkward for me to try using my left index finger. With the UAG case, I'll easily be able to keep away from the camera lense.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
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The LG V20 has the fingerprint scanner on the back. I don't know until I see the actual device, but I think the S8 once you get used to it, it should be fine.

I don't think it will be much of an issue either. But the S8 is just so fantastic you need to find a con somewhere

Honestly, I won't even use it. I hold my phone really low compared to most, I guess.

Can someone confirm how fast/reliable the iris scanner is? Also, does having it on make a noticeable impact on battery life?

im using an iphone 7 plus and i wipe my camera every time i use it and theres no fingerprint scanner back there hahahaha people are weird

galaxyYtester said:
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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I hear you and agree with the caveat that people with small hands need to purchase a mobile that they can handle efficiently. The S8 and S8+ are not designed for people with small hands? Its very much a question of compromise. If one desires a screen as large as the S8's then one will need larger than average hands or accept small handed users will need two handed operation. :good:
I don't mind the scanner being where it is. I owned a zenphone with the scanner on the back right underneath the camera. I had zero problems after acclimatising myself to such a layout.
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I can comment on the fingerprint scanner, it is very fast - near instantaneous, the only issue is that it takes longer to hit the right spot that it does for it to open the phone. as everyone already mentioned it is in a bad/awkward spot. i tend to either hit the camera or the flash when trying to use it. eventually ill train myself to hit the right area, but its not intuitive.

Just checked the s8/s8+ out at Best Buy. The s8+ was perfect for me just doing a quick hands on with the finger print scanner. I thought it would be weird but it was easy for me to use but my hands are bigger than average.

Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.

dumpyloser said:
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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That is the other irritating thing about it being on the back, when I have the phone in a dock or on the desk I am going to end up picking it up to unlock it instead of just putting my finger on a front facing scanner. I know you can have the iris scanner AND the fingerprint scanner active, but with the iris scanner i would still have to pick the phone up to point it at my eyes so its pretty useless, it will need a pin like you said.

On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.

Lagamorph said:
On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....

ewokuk said:
Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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When I unlock the phone it's usually got my internet browser open which is likely what I'm going to be using, so I'm not looking to use the Home/Back buttons.