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Galaxy S7 Bootloader

I am planning to get SGS7, NOT Edge version. I kinda hate it actually. HEre is my question. Is bootloader unlocked ? Cause I can't live without my CM13. And if So May be you guys can recommend Snapdragon 820 based Phone that can run homebrew roms. Right now I am on OP2 and I simply can't handle it anymore after 5 minutes in any game phone slowing down to around 10 FPS, unplayable condition.
Thank you in advance.

All snapdragon phones have a locked bootloaders so you're outta luck. Only the exynos is unlocked but no cm13/aosp for it.

peachpuff said:
All snapdragon phones have a locked bootloaders so you're outta luck. Only the exynos is unlocked but no cm13/aosp for it.
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Thank you for your reply. I guess I'll need to wait for OnePlus 3 with Snapdragon 820.
How about HTC M10 and or LG G5 ?
Thank you !

No clue about the m10 and g5, check their forums.

Canadian S9+ thread (Waiting room)

Its this time of the year guys! This thread is to discuss pre-orders across all stores and providers in Canada. To compare notes and ask ROBELUS related questions. I personally pulled the trigger for an unlocked (no subsidy) phone through best buy, delivery scheduled for the 16th and then I went back in an through Telus the pick up is on the 9th for some reason so I pulled the trigger on both. What did you order from where? What did you select? Pick up or delivery? Please share.

It seems the Exynos s9+ has 128gb of memory and the Snapdragon only 64gb. What gives?

mrnovanova said:
It seems the Exynos s9+ has 128gb of memory and the Snapdragon only 64gb. What gives?
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Well the exynos is more expensive so at least you get more for your money, but ya stupid decision samsung.

mrnovanova said:
It seems the Exynos s9+ has 128gb of memory and the Snapdragon only 64gb. What gives?
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That kind of makes me mad, like why can't samsung offer 64gb and 128gb/256gb in Canada. I mean if apple could do it, then samsung should have no excuse.

So there's no Exynos version? Wtf?

Aakash Kaushal said:
So there's no Exynos version? Wtf?
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yeah there is an exynos version, not for Canada. I heard Samsung going be under-clocking exynos processors so they are the same performance of sd845.

htc fan89 said:
yeah there is an exynos version, not for Canada. I heard Samsung going be under-clocking exynos processors so they are the same performance of sd845.
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Sosad
One question though, does anyone know where to get the blue in Canada?

htc fan89 said:
yeah there is an exynos version, not for Canada. I heard Samsung going be under-clocking exynos processors so they are the same performance of sd845.
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But on snapdragon, we wont have unlocked bootloader so no root , which means no xda stuff. Na man, i won't buy s9 then!

Hola
I am still on the fence about getting this device. One unique thing that I need is VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling features and currently you can only get these "advanced" functions by buying a phone directly from your carrier. I would be more inclined to get the Exynos version primarily because you can get decent third-party custom ROMs that, for the most part, provide a cleaner experience than the bloated full stock firmware.
Ah boy first world issues indeed...
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Got my shipping notice from BestBuy. I'm supposed to get be able to pick it up this Friday. We'll see how that goes...

Reineforce said:
Sosad
One question though, does anyone know where to get the blue in Canada?
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No blue. Lilac and gray only.

mrnovanova said:
Got my shipping notice from BestBuy. I'm supposed to get be able to pick it up this Friday. We'll see how that goes...
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I thought the release date is 16th
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htc fan89 said:
I thought the release date is 16th
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Yes it is but my pick up date is the 9th. Guy on the phone confirmed it but in the store they're saying they might receive it on the 9th and still won't be able to sell it until the 16th. That's why I guess we'll see Friday.

mrnovanova said:
Yes it is but my pick up date is the 9th. Guy on the phone confirmed it but in the store they're saying they might receive it on the 9th and still won't be able to sell it until the 16th. That's why I guess we'll see Friday.
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That be cool if they sell it earlier, but slim chance for that.
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htc fan89 said:
That be cool if they sell it earlier, but slim chance for that.
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I just went over my emails and it turns out they sent me an email telling me to disregard the shipping notice and that my phone will be ready for pick up on the 16th. Oh well...

Just placed my preorder online with Samsung.ca. SES is not too convenient for me and having read about some hassles with using the $150 credit against the phone, I figured online was easier as the credit is already applied and I may get my phone before the 16th.

But why you guys not worried about the Snapdragon processor, i mean locked bootloader. Are you guys okay with that?
Also the benchmark scores are drastically higher on Exynos (3600, 9500) as compared ro the crapdragon(2400,8500).

Aakash Kaushal said:
But why you guys not worried about the Snapdragon processor, i mean locked bootloader. Are you guys okay with that?
Also the benchmark scores are drastically higher on Exynos (3600, 9500) as compared ro the crapdragon(2400,8500).
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No point if Samsung going under clock the exynos version so it performs like sd845. That’s what people at anandtech found out, hopefully it’s not true.
Here's the link to the article
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12478/exynos-9810-handson-awkward-first-results
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htc fan89 said:
No point if Samsung going under clock the exynos version so it performs like sd845. That’s what people at anandtech found out, hopefully it’s not true.
Here's the link to the article
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12478/exynos-9810-handson-awkward-first-results
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Bro the geekbench scores are drastically high on exynos but yeah the the other scores are pretty low.. i think in real life, Exynos will still be faster than the Snapdragon.

People still pay attention to benchmarks? I have no issues with my SD835 S8+ and I only expect the S9+ to be even faster. I'll take real-world usage over benchmarks any day. Plus, I like being able to use VoLTE and having proper Carrier Aggregation support for LTE, something that I can't use if I import an Exynos version.

(Root Discussion) [Nothing Yet] Snapdragon G965U

All discussion and info pertaining to root goes here.
Will update this OP as needed.
4/26/2018- There are TWO people working on root. Don't expect it ANYTIME soon. ?. Zero progress has been made since release.

Reserved

This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root method for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
Note: As some of you know like with the Note 8, there exists the v1, v2, v2.5, v3 root methods for the different firmware. What I'm curious about is at what point will we be completely locked out of our S9+'s due to those virus updates/patches?
Tip: DO NO BLINDLY JUMP TO UPDATES FOLKS... NEIN NEIN NEIN.... If you roll up too far and that virus update/patch so happens to be the one to lock the device out from ever being able to obtain some kind of root, you'll be totally SOL.

iunlock said:
This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
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Stock has come a long way.
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sicfast said:
Stock has come a long way.
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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+

iunlock said:
Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+
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What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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sicfast said:
What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?

I'm very happy with 8.0

iunlock said:
For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?
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The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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sicfast said:
The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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iunlock said:
That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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Pretty much the way it is in the automotive world. You blow it up, you fix it.
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why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.

G965F doesnt support B71 for Tmobile in USA

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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Because that is the default device for the North American market.
I'm perfectly happy with my SD version. Good battery life and performance seems to be spectacular.

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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...AND because those with T-Mobile can get land a killer deal on the top Samsung flagships.
Ex. T-Mobile had a BOGO Deal on the Note 8, which makes both of my Note 8's come out to ~$410. If I sell my 2nd one, I would be making +$300 to own my current Note 8 LOL ... just saying... (Pic attached of the $820 pre paid Mastercard for proof that I got back for the 2nd Note 8... not that it's needed, but it doesn't hurt to back it up.) Even if I keep my 2nd Note 8 as a back up, I'm still in the win for obtaining a flagship for less than the wannabe chinese knock off's out there that are no longer really cheap at $450-$500+ now *cough* OP5 ...
The S9/S9+ has a trade in deal right now as well for either $200 or $360, depending on what phone you trade in. So why would I pass up getting $200 for my old S4's and S5's? ...there's no way to get even close to that in today's market.... it's a no brainer.
I do agree that the Exynos variants are much better in terms of CPU and Dev support. A non rooted phone is useless to me, so that is one of the reasons why I even opted for the SD Note 8, ONLY because it has root. As for the S9+ there is a working Titanium Back Up alternative that allows me to freeze the virus software updates so that's the only reason why the S9+ is not going back. We're all hoping for a root for the SD S9+'s.... fingers crossed.
Of course I'd love to get my hands on the 256GB Exynos S9+, however, it is still unsure if it will suffer from the carrier aggregation the Exynos Note 8 had on our US networks. I know that there are a few folks that have ordered the Korean 256GB Exynos variant, so once we get confirmation that those work 100% with TM, I'm all in for another S9+.

So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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Hopefully the S9 line gets root. The S8 having no proper form of root at the time and the Note 8 being such a good deal while having root made it hard not to get. Hopefully they Note 9 has a form of Samfail again.

jagrave said:
So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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I'm wondering the same thing. Please.
Dude, after the s5, all of my knowledge on rooting etc has gone in the crapper.
I have the unlocked us variant but am on Verizon's network.
As ll the talk regarding the s8+ was even so hard for me to understand and all this used to be so easy. Where did I take a wrong turn? Lol

Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.

lightninbug said:
Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.
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Noooooooo! I don't even know where to begin to help.
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Anyone considering/request to create ROMs for N9860

Seeing so many ROMs introduced, any love for N9860

That's the sacrifice you made taking the Snapdragon over Exynos.
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Brava27 said:
That's the sacrifice you made taking the Snapdragon over Exynos.
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Agree, snapdragons may get root and possibly even twrp but historically speaking not much in the way of any development.
A rom here and there thats about it, nothing as compared to exynos versions.
If you just need root for certain functions not an issue, if you like flashing roms, kernels etc....well not going to much to flash. Its always been like this for as long as i can remember since the NA snaps were locked down and people went to the HK/Latin America versions.

That's because most developers left Samsung phones

I'm hoping now that US snapdragon BL,'s have been unlocked right along with TWRP and root, we shall hopefully start seeing more dev love in the back way of rims! In just had my unlock through the service performed a few days ago and now I FN love this phone! Just need great roms to go along with the unlock and root. Would personally want a note 20 Ultra Weta Rom!

Brava27 said:
That's the sacrifice you made taking the Snapdragon over Exynos.
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force70 said:
Agree, snapdragons may get root and possibly even twrp but historically speaking not much in the way of any development.
A rom here and there thats about it, nothing as compared to exynos versions.
If you just need root for certain functions not an issue, if you like flashing roms, kernels etc....well not going to much to flash. Its always been like this for as long as i can remember since the NA snaps were locked down and people went to the HK/Latin America versions.
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TheUndertaker21 said:
That's because most developers left Samsung phones
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If most devs left then how come we see it for Exynos
If Snaps can be unlocked and a superior product - why not then

inningsdefeat500 said:
If most devs left then how come we see it for Exynos
If Snaps can be unlocked and a superior product - why not then
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The amount of ROMs we have now pale in comparison to what we used to have. So yeah we have some for exynos but you need to consider maybe looking at methods to get snapdragon phones into devs hands. As opposed to just asking nicely.

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If most devs left then how come we see it for Exynos
If Snaps can be unlocked and a superior product - why not then
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LOL, it's the same phone. "superior device" [emoji16]
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Brava27 said:
LOL, it's the same phone. "superior device" [emoji16]
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Don't shoot the messenger, that's how I read it everywhere - but isn't it true that the Exynos chip sucks in comparison
https://www.reddit.com/r/Note20/comments/in3vez/galaxy_note20_ultra_with_snapdragon_cpu_is_20/
https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...-s20-galaxy/exynos-vs-snapdragon/td-p/1660909

inningsdefeat500 said:
Don't shoot the messenger, that's how I read it everywhere - but isn't it true that the Exynos chip sucks in comparison
https://www.reddit.com/r/Note20/comments/in3vez/galaxy_note20_ultra_with_snapdragon_cpu_is_20/
https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...-s20-galaxy/exynos-vs-snapdragon/td-p/1660909
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Keep reading the news. The difference is so minimal that you won't notice without benchmarks.
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Brava27 said:
Keep reading the news. The difference is so minimal that you won't notice without benchmarks.
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I think I can tell abt the battery atleast, but at the end of the day - I see that if one had to root then Exonys was better option for roms etc
I read about the anger before the release and since there was an option to go either way for Dual SIM, I assumed HK 9860 was the perfect blend. I see a ROM for 986U - I mean there isn't even a public unlock for it and there is a ROM already
I thought it would be nice to see an option but no biggie

inningsdefeat500 said:
I think I can tell abt the battery atleast, but at the end of the day - I see that if one had to root then Exonys was better option for roms etc
I read about the anger before the release and since there was an option to go either way for Dual SIM, I assumed HK 9860 was the perfect blend. I see a ROM for 986U - I mean there isn't even a public unlock for it and there is a ROM already
I thought it would be nice to see an option but no biggie
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I have been very happy with the performance of the exynos. 0 hiccups or performance issues. Battery has been fine. Same as models before.
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Galaxy S22 Wil launch with snapdragon all regions

That being said since it's using the snapdragon processor will samsung prevent all their phone's from being rooted? I really wanted to get the s22 note 1TB but if I can't root it im gonna be sad.

Nick123194 said:
That being said since it's using the snapdragon processor will samsung prevent all their phone's from being rooted? I really wanted to get the s22 note 1TB but if I can't root it im gonna be sad.
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Snapdragon's tend to be notoriously hard to root.
A stock Samsung can run quit well at least they use to... So far I'm not keen on this new model and 2022 will likely be another bad year for Samsung and Android.
Unifying their chipsets is a good thing though, if they can do it. Supply chain shortages may be ahead...

blackhawk said:
Snapdragon's tend to be notoriously hard to root.
A stock Samsung can run quit well at least they use to... So far I'm not keen on this new model and 2022 will likely be another bad year for Samsung and Android.
Unifying their chipsets is a good thing though, if they can do it. Supply chain shortages may be ahead...
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The Exynos 22000 was suppose to have an amd gpu as well right?

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The Exynos 22000 was suppose to have an amd gpu as well right?
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Don't know. I've always ran the US variants... for better or worse.