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AT&T Tab 4 8.0 Owners

Figured I'd stay a thread for those of us who have an AT&T Tab 4 SM-T337A variant. Anyone weeks have one? What are your thoughts? I'll probably post some in the coming days as I use it more.

I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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bl2128 said:
I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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Actually, I didn't have the vibrate function on the tab 3 and was didsappointed. I was happy to have one on the 4, but I have no idea why I would need it now. I would have rather seen that left out too. I'm really hoping to a root exploit soon so I can tinker with this one at least. I didn't really pay attention to the camera because I really don't use it. I really only use my tab for streaming music and poking around on the interwebs.
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Essentially, what Samsung said to us is "Here is the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor and a vibrator, but we downgraded the speakers and camera and got rid of auto brightness."
This sounds absurd when you put it that way. I would have preferred "Here's the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor, but we had to get rid of the IR blaster and continue to leave out a vibrator." To me, that sounds much more reasonable.
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oldblue910 said:
The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.

mrksbrd said:
From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
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Yeah, the AT&T version's stock ROM definitely has some performance issues. Hopefully they'll get rectified with the first system update, whenever that happens.
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Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security

mrksbrd said:
Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=34969

I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update ?

Repeated from another post.. appropriate here as well
LTE Tab 4 models have Kids Mode removed
I spoke to Samsung Telecommunications US headquarters this week out of frustration of not having the Kids Mode App on our two new AT&T LTE Samsung Tab 4 devices and have confirmed that all LTE models have had the Kids Mode feature removed from their devices. And, the most frustrating thing is actually on Samsung's own website for the individual, specific LTE models which lists the Kids Mode feature as a key selling point. And yes, the first thing people say is: "Have you checked for the latest updates (Android & Samsung.) And, the answer is yes. I have confirmed this removal with Samsung and notified them that this is indeed a huge problem. Maybe not so much for me or for you who may thrive off all things tech, but for the grandparent or parent buying this for their child with the sole purpose of using this key selling feature to help protect their child. Their frustration and discomfort in trying to use what they've been sold and not being able to will only push them away from Samsung or other Android devices. It is a disservice to both the Samsung and Android names as well as to the customer. And it makes us maybe reflect on what we can learn from apple (which pains me to say): when they advertise a feature, it does work on their devices especially on the new ones and even more so on a product listed to have the feature. It's both disappointing and embarrassing to see as both a Samsung and Android supporter.
And one more thing that pains me as an AT&T employee, which I am but not in mobility, that must be said!.. Samsung and AT&T have thought of our kids protection and replaced the Kids Mode with another app. FAMIGO!.. which is a PAID subscription of $4.99 a month to protect your Child!! THINKING of this even more gets me so infuriated!! What an absolute disservice and embarrassment!!
Can anyone get the Kids Mode AK ported from the WiFi version so we can use it on this device?

pre4speed said:
I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update
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Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...

ayekonify said:
Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
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I thought all had seen. Sorry. No chance of recovery. Locked bootloader+little developer interest=no safestrap or other custom recovery.

couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.

superp32 said:
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.

cstayton said:
I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol

pre4speed said:
When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
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IKR tht feeling when you think you bricked but actually its just normal haha ;D i still get always scared sh*t out of me because ive had bad luck with odin flashes 4 times... I hate reflashing stock and install all apps and accounts again... almost 10 hours job...

It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.

goldentequila said:
It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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Out of curiosity without safestrap for this device, how do you plan on flashing another ROM to this phone since the bootloader is locked and visa vi no custom recovery?

Voice call
Has anyone figured out how to enable voice calls on the SM-T337A? I've rooted with Towelroot and tried to update the modem.bin file with the one for SM-T337T. No luck. Advance thanks.

How does locked BL effect you?

Well since there is to be no root or recovery we are left with discussion and mods/apps which do not require root.
My question to the group is how does this phone being locked down effect you. Many say they will wait and hope, others saying returning/selling ASAP and still others are saying this phone doesn't need it.
As far as how it effects me? Not a whole lot, Android has come a long way and this phone is super solid. I feel that this version of Touchwiz is non intrusive even less so than the Note 5 which barely lasted a month. I do appreciate root, and when I can, I always root. For me the biggest problem is Samsung's abhorrent updating. Sure we get special treatment over older still supported devices but let's keep it real Samsung sucks. After a year Samsung magically becomes even slower. I also greatly appreciate a stock Google experience. I will probably sell this bad boy. Once my bogo comes through
I currently have Nexus 5x and Nexus 6. And am undecided as to which one I will keep although leaning towards Nexus 6. I may end up keeping s7 edge until Nexus 2016 comes out, but that option is looking unlikely

If I had known ahead of time the S7 bootloader was locked I would have bought the wife and I Nexus 6 devices and then gone to Project FI

yea sux when i found this out. but remember AT&T bootloaders were always locked down well for the most part and DEVs have always found a way to do it or work around it. I know u guys remember The days of the Loki patches rainbow recoveries etc..lol . phone has only been out a week give it some time fellas have faith in our DEVs they are the BEAST! IT WILL HAPPEN dont ask me how i just know these guys never disappoint!
in the mean time if u haven't already check this out these dudes are sweet they have instructions for non rooted requires a $2 app but worth it for now I confirm they work on my S7, cheers :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/themes-apps/avengers-theme-individual-mode-t3140647

I waited months for my LG G4 to get root and a bootloader unlock. Finally got cm13 and just a short time later upgraded to the S7... I miss cm13, but it'll just take some time and it'll be back on my phone.

How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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chakra said:
How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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Return it

For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..

mikesincredible said:
For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..
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Check out package disabler pro

Dovigoldberger said:
Check out package disabler pro
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Thank you!

I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.

gamepr said:
I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.
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Mine's going back tomorrow, unless there's some news. I figure that I can just re-purchase it once/if BL is unlocked, or check out the G5.

Going to do the jump to the g5 most likely.. I didnt have to root my g4 to get the software how I like it. There is just too much samsung integration here to get around it all without having lots of minor annoyances (no major ones, just lots of little **** I dont like).

Locked BL affects me moderately. I prefer lower DPI so without xposed/app settings, the camera/video calls aren't full screen. I also lose the ability to customize the phone (xposed/wanam). I have a harder time transferring apps (no Titanium Backup). I miss out on the whole reason for liking Snapdragon over exynos (kernels, CM). I never considered returning the phone (t-mobile's BOGO free + 2 yr netflix + $60 + wireless chargers from Samsung Pay + 2 GearVR was a ridiculous deal). I have considered selling/swapping for a 930F (all it would take is VOLTE + native video dialing and I'd swap immediately).

Just got my s7 today . . Retired my note 3 after years of use .... s7 is awsome right out the box ... very fast battery is great ... happy with the purchase
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Pretty much using Nexus 6 on project Fi. It's interesting not using as much data but I do like the service. Going between sprint and T-Mobile has been nice. I have no real desire to go to 6p now. I am really hoping that Google will release another 6 inch phone soon. If it's only 5.5 I will be disappointed but will still probably get the next Nexus

My Nexus 6 is unrooted, I just know Samsung won't get Android N until the Note 6 is released

Will Locked Bootloader/No Root be the Norm moving forward for Samsung and T-Mobile ?

Hello guys I just wanted to get a better feel of how everyone else feels right now and in particular to the Galaxy S7 as well as s7 Edge on T-Mobile having a locked bootloader making root extremely difficult to get if not impossible. This was upsetting to me not because I wanted the S7 and S7 Edge but because this set a precedent for the Note 6 which is not yet released. I started my Journey with a Galaxy Note 2 and loved them ever since. I have very large hands so I definitely needed a large phone and I really quite liked the size and features. I then got the Note 4 and was certainly happy with it for over a year. I usually only hold onto phones for a short while but that phone did pretty much everything for me so I held onto it a while. Samsung announced the Note 5 and I decided to pass due to no more SD Card so I now needed to opt for at least 64gb and no IR blaster. So I decided I wouldn’t be getting that and would look at other options. I began my hunt and ultimately one of the few phones that met my standards was the Nexus 6P since it had a 5.7-inch screen which was Amoled and had a very good camera and I decided to try out stock Android since everyone always raves of its speed and updates. Plus, root on the 6P would be easy.
Anyway the 6P has been doing fine but the battery does leave a lot to be desired (I feel touchwiz does very well with its battery optimizations). Camera is also slightly better due to speed and manual controls as well as screen brightness. The next phone on my radar is the Note 6 but with the no root precedent I’m fairly concerned. To sum it up I feel we don’t have many 5.7 inch or larger phone options out there and was wondering what devices will you guys be looking at as Note competitors especially if the new Note 6 from, T-Mobile cant be rooted? It seems manufacturers like LG and HTC are not really coming out with Note competitors and if they do they are basterdized in some fashion (like lower specs and cameras). Just makes you wonder if they are not interested in the market.

Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.

Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...

mgbotoe said:
Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.
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This will be really sad if so. Nexus devices are fine but sometimes dont bring all the best features. If the phone is less than 5.7 inches and no Amoled its a non start for me. Liked the HTC 10 but 5.2 inch screen is no go for me lol.
TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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True, will be anxiously waiting.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...
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Thanks for your input. makes sense.

Note 6 will be locked down.

Note 5, or wait for next model?

I currently have an iphone 6S+, and its gotten to the point i hate it. I originally had it jailbroken etc and the support for it has just fallen off and now i cant do **** with it and its time to go, so my question is as a note 3 and 4 previous owner, will the note 5 do what i want? Ive heard a lot of contradictory information about it.
Can the 5s be rooted? I like stock appearence but debloated and the ability to use wifi hotspot because of my unlimited data plan.
Is there an SD slot? the non expandability of my ihone bothers me.
Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?

SS4Luck said:
I currently have an iphone 6S+, and its gotten to the point i hate it. I originally had it jailbroken etc and the support for it has just fallen off and now i cant do **** with it and its time to go, so my question is as a note 3 and 4 previous owner, will the note 5 do what i want? Ive heard a lot of contradictory information about it.
Can the 5s be rooted? I like stock appearence but debloated and the ability to use wifi hotspot because of my unlimited data plan.
Is there an SD slot? the non expandability of my ihone bothers me.
Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?
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Seeing you want a SD card I would just wait. The Note 6/7 will be coming out in August so it's only about a month away. From the leaked specs it sounds like it's going to be a bumped up S7 with a slightly better processor, bigger battery and more ram. Along with a Note 5 I own the S7 edge and really like the camera and external SD. The Note 5 is a beautiful phone but I would wait a few weeks before you spend that kind of cash on a new phone. There is currently no root for either phone but you can disable any app with the paid version of Package Disabler pro (no PC required) or the Debloater tool witch is free but requires a PC. I also believe you can tether with FoxFi but I'm not 100% sure on that.

I to would wait for the next model. My Note 5 was fine until MM came out. I may revert back to the older software. No removable battery is a pain. I haven't had a memory problem but would still like to expand when needed. I have the 64 gig model.

b4u2 said:
I to would wait for the next model. My Note 5 was fine until MM came out. I may revert back to the older software. No removable battery is a pain. I haven't had a memory problem but would still like to expand when needed. I have the 64 gig model.
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I agree. Wait until note 7 edge. It will be out in 2 months. You get waterptoof s7 edge phone with a stylus and SD card support. Im stuck with note 5 till next year and ill get the note 8 by then.
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Foxfi works on my 5 even with the latest updates. Still not used to all the ads though. I've been rooted since my first Droid. Life ad-free was so ....so...free
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Wait.
I have the Note 5 and there is no root for the Verizon version.

Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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It did at first for me. But ive grown out of the root, recovery and flashing rom days. It was fun and all until dev support stops. And the Rom stays forever on kitkat 4.4.2 and meanwhile the phone is now on lolipop 5.1 or marshmallow 6.0.1 and getting left behind.
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tw1n5nak35 said:
It did at first for me. But ive grown out of the root, recovery and flashing rom days. It was fun and all until dev support stops. And the Rom stays forever on kitkat 4.4.2 and meanwhile the phone is now on lolipop 5.1 or marshmallow 6.0.1 and getting left behind.
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Same here but I was on the other end too. I got tired of wasting the days making ROMs just for Verizon to kill root the next update. I love the Samsung phones so I got used to no root. At least package disabler works and we have themes.

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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No the only S7 Edge that is rootable is the Chinese version. It's not available in the U.S.A. It's still a great phone root or not. You can have free teathering without root, read post #2 again. Root would be better but it's looking pretty dismal with a Samsung device.

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Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?
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For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.

JulesJam said:
For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.
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I'd wait I have an iPhone also bit mines jail broken so I still kinda like it

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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In case you didn't know the S7 Edge now has root. I'm definitely keeping mine now.

Misterxtc said:
In case you didn't know the S7 Edge now has root. I'm definitely keeping mine now.
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Yeah but they got root because a Samsung employee leaked a signed engineering bootloader.

JulesJam said:
Yeah but they got root because a Samsung employee leaked a signed engineering bootloader.
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I'll take it any way I can get it. It's not perfect but at least the file system can be modded to ones preference and full system back ups can be done.

wait for note 7 , i`m sick of absence of expansion slot for my note 5 , also battery back up is not so good.

Misterxtc said:
I'll take it any way I can get it. It's not perfect but at least the file system can be modded to ones preference and full system back ups can be done.
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Me too but my point was simply that this was a freak case due to the leak. We can't analogize anything they did with the S7 to the Note 5 because we don't have a signed engineering kernel for our device.
The fact that the S7 got rooted with a leaked signed engineering bootloader is no reason for us to have hope. We can't count on a Samsung employee leaking signed files like that, they are risking their job.
Rooting the S7 wasn't due to a dev finding an exploit; it was due to a Samsung employee leaking a file that they shouldn't have. Or worse, someone who wasn't a Samsung employee doing something illegal to obtain the file.

JulesJam said:
For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.
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Actually, it is usually the opposite. The new device gets huge subsidies whereas the older devices stay at full price.
That having been said, it is pretty obvious to me that if you love the note series, and are into control of your phone, then the Note 4 Remains the best Android phone ever made for Verizon, and the best in the note series.
The list of benefits for the Note 4 is plethora: Root. Unlock Bootloader. Replaceable battery. SD card support. MHL. USB on-the-go. IR blaster. Great ROM support up to MM. Wireless charging option. Gorgeous screen. Incredibly durable build quality.
FYI: the first 8 benefits are not available on any other Verizon phone.

Note 7 and it's fate

Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?

Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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I wonder how pricy will the Note 7 be.
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Critical Detox said:
Given the fact that Samsung rolled out all the Snapdragon s7 and s7e with locked bootloaders, I have little to no hope for the note 7. What do you guys think about its chances of coming with an unlocked bootloader?
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I think chances are zero
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My main concern for it is im a huge Viper supporter, and If can't root and get Viper on that device....That device is dead to me. I'm hoping some miracle comes through and we get the Samsung device we all want AND an unlocked bootloader.
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
Good luck.
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Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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I saw that a few days ago, maybe In due time they'll get the bootloader unlocked too.
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pcriz said:
Root has been achieved for the s7 and edge on ATT and Tmobile. May want to word your answers in such a way that they dont seem like absolutes.
Also every international model of every phone comes sim unlocked. Thats why there is a category for unlocked phones.
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That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.

tribleten said:
That's awesome news! Do you know if they posted the root procedures for Tmobile S7 on XDA? I haven't seen them yet.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php

pcriz said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragons7variantsrooted-blog-19194.php
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Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.

tribleten said:
Oh ok...seems like a few people are having issues with that method (as most new root methods), but it's definitely a start in the right direction.
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I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.

pcriz said:
I've seen both sides on it, some got issues and some are reporting that everything is okay. Another interesting aspect is people reporting this doesnt trip knox, while being rooted samsung pay doesnt work but when they revert knox still shows 0x0.
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They my understanding is knox remains 0x0 because it uses a repair kernel
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Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.

chipworkz said:
Crazy how there is not much talk about the Note 7 with it only about 2 weeks away. I am really mixed about getting it still since I know it is going to be locked. The only thing that is really holding me back at this point is not being able to use Viper. There are a couple of other things that would be nice to still be able to do but those aren't major. Android has come a long way and the need for a custom rom just isn't what it used to be. I really like the Note line and prefer to stay with it so I may just bit the bullet and go without root. Whether I get it at launch will also depend on the special offers they are giving out. I got the Year of Netflix and free VR with the S7 Edge before I returned it so if they have a simular offer, I will probably jump on it.
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I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...progress has been made with root on the s7's so I'm hopeful similar leaps are made...nonetheless, i have to say, my girls note 5 is bone stock unrooted and with few exceptions there's little that can't be done...for her nothing, and for me, well, I'm just finally learning to develop on Linux so i definitely want to keep SOME rootable device in my stable as well, but that's might end up meaning a second device (next nexus?) and swapping my sim around smh...it's just that usb3.0, ip68, 256gb storage and 6gb ram PLUS a true edge screen is almost too much to resist, root or not, plus there's always samsung pay while it's still 0x0...i see myself getting it, only question is when and will i also spent flagship money on a second device (OP3? nexus? Htc?- pretty much all are sd820...) until a good root method or unlocked bootloader becomes a reality....
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Rx8Driver said:
I was just thinking this same thing...i own my note 5 outright so i may just trade it in if there's a good deal...
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This is what will break me, some awesome deal with two phones, VR, and what not.
Probably gonna go with that blue if i do buy.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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I'm always with 2 phones, 1 is usually a nexus device, the note series have been my go to though. I'll likely get the N7 and do what I can do to it with in the confines of no super user. Nexus devices are so cheap, you can always pick up one for around $200, excluding the 6p. The devs here on XDA are top notch, so I'm always confident they'll come up with something.
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Well a locked bootloader is a locked bootloader in most cases. The s7 exploit is really just a Samsung repair kernel that was leaked that's really not fit for prime time, unfortunately...
And even that is still limited in no custom recovery or roms, just stock debloat, xposed, viper/etc...
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it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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Misterjunky said:
All the future samsung usa phones which are branded tmobile, at&t, sprint and verizon will have locked bootloaders
If you want a rooted samsung phone in the future you will all need to buy the international models.
Thats why I purchased the S7 EDGE G935F international model a few weeks ago. All the international samsung phones are very easily rooted and none of them have locked bootloaders.
And to top it off all the samsung international phone models come sim unlocked .
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me

TheUndertaker21 said:
it's even worse now lol
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oid-7-0-wont-let-phone-boot-software-corrupt/
i will no longer buying any samsung phones. my note 5 has been on the top for 2 months now
no good roms to try
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sadly, you can't have aosp because of xynos therefore useless to me
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I wouldn't say can't, it can in fact happen and has. It just isn't easy. There are snapdragon devices that never got stable CM builds. Just in the case with the exynos, the odds aren't in their favor.

If I do get the Note 7, which I probably will, it will be with the knowledge that if most likely will never be unlocked. I have been running pure stock and not even rooted for a couple weeks now to see how unrooted life is. I have been rooted and running a custom rom for several years now. Like I said before, there are some cool features in custom roms but the need for them just isn't what it used to be. The only thing I am truly missing is Viper. So for me it comes down to the simple question of which is more important. What is more important, all of the new features of the new phone or the ability to use Viper.
I swore I wouldn't buy a locked phone and would move to the Nexus line but based on the rumors of the next Nexus phones, I am not thrilled with them. I just don't see anything that I would rather move to over the Note 7 based on what we know so far. That along with the fact that I am on the original Jump program so without needing to buy the phone outright, I need to pick from T-Mobiles selections.
A lot of the reasons to have root can be accomplished with apps so life without root isn't a huge deal for me anymore. I just wish there was a Viper alternative that can be used without root. Anyone know of one?