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s3 to n5?

I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?

Aside from possibly the camera...and no SD slot.....yes, a huge upgrade. IMHO.

I just came from my GS3 to the N5 and the difference is night and day. Even with a KitKat rom on my GS3 it isnt nearly as fast and smooth as the N5.
Not to mention N5 roms are nearly bug free.
You do lose the SD card as mentioned above, the camera (I think) is a little better quality.
Battery is way better.

Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.
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You won't be disappointed with the upgrade. Went from i747 to N5 and everything is so much smoother. Keep your s3 with a proven rom as a backup but don't expect to jump back to it once you feel the difference in speed and reliability of the nexus 5.
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kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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I came 2 days ago from a d2spr. I can't begin to explain the night and day difference between the 2.
Hardware aside, the development here is way more active than on the s3 side. Hope to see you here.....

kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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One and half month back I had the same confusion regarding this.
But after switching to N5, I am quite happy than before, until and unless you experience it you wont understand the differences of its software and hardware from S3.

Wi Fi Direct
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5

chainsuk said:
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5
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Never used it...

galaxy s5 is better
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watalee said:
galaxy s5 is better
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Please don't troll.
"better" is subjective. Samsung cannot make a touchwiz device that doesn't lag. All of us who have had Galaxy devices know this. The s5 is no exception. The OP did not mention the S5. If he wanted an S5, he would have posted this in the S5 forum. Lets try to stay on topic please.

For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5

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For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5
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That's exactly why I was looking at the n5 and not the s5. I found a 32gb black nexus for $315 on swappa so it's on its way now. I know the s5 has better stats on paper but it would also ruin any warranty if I rooted it ( samsungs counter). I like experimenting with different roms and I haven't used tpuchwiz for months. I know the n5 isn't exactly new but it's new enough that it should get the next update version of andriod.

I came from the Note 2, which is similar spec to the S3, and here’s what I miss the most:
-Wolfson DAC: With DAC Direct, audio sounded far superior on Note 2 (the reason audiophiles love Samsung phones)
-APT-X Bluetooth Codec: Again, sounds far superior to standard BT audio
-Phase Detection Auto Focus: For fast focus lock. N5 uses contrast detection, which is why it’s slow to focus
-Camera voice commands: Handy when taking photos of the kids / pets etc
-Expandable Storage: I would have liked the option to use my own SD cards, however I have bought a USB OTG SD card reader so this point is moot now
Apart from that I couldn’t be happier with the N5, and am actually happy to be rid of all Samsung’s gimmicks and so called “features”.
So if you haven’t already, go for it!

Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above
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Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276

rootSU said:
Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276
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I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
Good post though, hit the nail on the head regarding tolerance, human error, and everything else really.
Like yourself I have light bleed, but I can live with it as it's only noticeable when it boots up.

CitizenLee said:
I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.

rootSU said:
No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.
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Aye, seems to be quite common these days that websites run a story without properly fact checking!

Samsung gear VR users

Any success with your note 5? What ROM are you using for the vr to work?
Thanks

Brava27 said:
Any success with your note 5? What ROM are you using for the vr to work?
Thanks
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I was nervous at first because on first attempt it was unusable. It was incredibly "jerky"... So I Odin to stock...perfect ever since. Even rooted and installed latest Breakdown. It's pretty damn amazing

Anyone who jumps, bought this? I can't justify buying it if I will just have to get rid of it when I get a new note device....damn you samsung for making it device specific.
sorry I know this is out of context

mgbotoe said:
Anyone who jumps, bought this? I can't justify buying it if I will just have to get rid of it when I get a new note device....damn you samsung for making it device specific.
sorry I know this is out of context
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It's hard to know if it'll be future compatible with S7 or Note 6 as those devices don't actually exist in a format we can be sure of. Only rumors.
That being said, this VR supports far more than the One device Innovator edition so unless they change port layout or physical size, there's no reason why it couldn't work.

Compusmurf said:
It's hard to know if it'll be future compatible with S7 or Note 6 as those devices don't actually exist in a format we can be sure of. Only rumors.
That being said, this VR supports far more than the One device Innovator edition so unless they change port layout or physical size, there's no reason why it couldn't work.
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The one made specifically for the note 4...does not work with anything else but the note 4. Same justification was used with that as well lol. But I don't want to steal this thread
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Yeah, I covered that.
"this VR supports far more than the One device Innovator edition"
There were multiple "one device" Innovator editions, but the Consumer version supports Note5, S6, S6 edge and S6 edge+, and cheaper. It has multiple size settings, which is a GREAT sign for possible future compatibility.
It's a pretty decent device and well worth it at the price.
Just because you'll jump in the future, doesn't mean it's not worth it right now.

How is the screen door effect? I have Oculus DK1. How does it compare to that?

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How is the screen door effect? I have Oculus DK1. How does it compare to that?
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It's definitely there. It bothers some folks, not others. Doesn't bother me much, I got used to it.
On a side note:
Some of the apps (same ones from Innovator edition) still give me motion sickness. I guess I'm just doomed to never run those apps.

You can tell it's there. I still love it though. Netflix is awesome using it. Watched a video yesterday of the blue angels flying at was amazing.

Edit. VR fine. It was the Arter kernel on my N5 Loco rom. Switched kernels to skyhigh and works perfect although a few random reboots on phone when using but not many. It's tolerable until an update comes out. But for now I'm running stock everything unrooted because the VR rocks that way and I've been showing it to many peeps over Christmas. Tomorrow I'll re-rom and kernel it back.

bump any updates on this?

The only rom/kernel that works with VR is Stock Modified. However I found that it causes issues with bluetooth and after a while my moto 360 stops getting notifications.
Wish roms could support VR, would make things easier

Darthstalker's Rom seems to work well with the latest Sky High
I've hard Breakdown also works, but haven't tested it.. Hopefully Tek is working on it for his Rom, but I doubt it.

Is there a way to use S4 with this device?
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Dr room is the best one. With sky-high kernel but lately I keep going back to tekhd

How does locked BL effect you?

Well since there is to be no root or recovery we are left with discussion and mods/apps which do not require root.
My question to the group is how does this phone being locked down effect you. Many say they will wait and hope, others saying returning/selling ASAP and still others are saying this phone doesn't need it.
As far as how it effects me? Not a whole lot, Android has come a long way and this phone is super solid. I feel that this version of Touchwiz is non intrusive even less so than the Note 5 which barely lasted a month. I do appreciate root, and when I can, I always root. For me the biggest problem is Samsung's abhorrent updating. Sure we get special treatment over older still supported devices but let's keep it real Samsung sucks. After a year Samsung magically becomes even slower. I also greatly appreciate a stock Google experience. I will probably sell this bad boy. Once my bogo comes through
I currently have Nexus 5x and Nexus 6. And am undecided as to which one I will keep although leaning towards Nexus 6. I may end up keeping s7 edge until Nexus 2016 comes out, but that option is looking unlikely

If I had known ahead of time the S7 bootloader was locked I would have bought the wife and I Nexus 6 devices and then gone to Project FI

yea sux when i found this out. but remember AT&T bootloaders were always locked down well for the most part and DEVs have always found a way to do it or work around it. I know u guys remember The days of the Loki patches rainbow recoveries etc..lol . phone has only been out a week give it some time fellas have faith in our DEVs they are the BEAST! IT WILL HAPPEN dont ask me how i just know these guys never disappoint!
in the mean time if u haven't already check this out these dudes are sweet they have instructions for non rooted requires a $2 app but worth it for now I confirm they work on my S7, cheers :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/themes-apps/avengers-theme-individual-mode-t3140647

I waited months for my LG G4 to get root and a bootloader unlock. Finally got cm13 and just a short time later upgraded to the S7... I miss cm13, but it'll just take some time and it'll be back on my phone.

How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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chakra said:
How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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Return it

For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..

mikesincredible said:
For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..
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Check out package disabler pro

Dovigoldberger said:
Check out package disabler pro
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Thank you!

I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.

gamepr said:
I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.
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Mine's going back tomorrow, unless there's some news. I figure that I can just re-purchase it once/if BL is unlocked, or check out the G5.

Going to do the jump to the g5 most likely.. I didnt have to root my g4 to get the software how I like it. There is just too much samsung integration here to get around it all without having lots of minor annoyances (no major ones, just lots of little **** I dont like).

Locked BL affects me moderately. I prefer lower DPI so without xposed/app settings, the camera/video calls aren't full screen. I also lose the ability to customize the phone (xposed/wanam). I have a harder time transferring apps (no Titanium Backup). I miss out on the whole reason for liking Snapdragon over exynos (kernels, CM). I never considered returning the phone (t-mobile's BOGO free + 2 yr netflix + $60 + wireless chargers from Samsung Pay + 2 GearVR was a ridiculous deal). I have considered selling/swapping for a 930F (all it would take is VOLTE + native video dialing and I'd swap immediately).

Just got my s7 today . . Retired my note 3 after years of use .... s7 is awsome right out the box ... very fast battery is great ... happy with the purchase
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Pretty much using Nexus 6 on project Fi. It's interesting not using as much data but I do like the service. Going between sprint and T-Mobile has been nice. I have no real desire to go to 6p now. I am really hoping that Google will release another 6 inch phone soon. If it's only 5.5 I will be disappointed but will still probably get the next Nexus

My Nexus 6 is unrooted, I just know Samsung won't get Android N until the Note 6 is released

Note 5, or wait for next model?

I currently have an iphone 6S+, and its gotten to the point i hate it. I originally had it jailbroken etc and the support for it has just fallen off and now i cant do **** with it and its time to go, so my question is as a note 3 and 4 previous owner, will the note 5 do what i want? Ive heard a lot of contradictory information about it.
Can the 5s be rooted? I like stock appearence but debloated and the ability to use wifi hotspot because of my unlimited data plan.
Is there an SD slot? the non expandability of my ihone bothers me.
Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?

SS4Luck said:
I currently have an iphone 6S+, and its gotten to the point i hate it. I originally had it jailbroken etc and the support for it has just fallen off and now i cant do **** with it and its time to go, so my question is as a note 3 and 4 previous owner, will the note 5 do what i want? Ive heard a lot of contradictory information about it.
Can the 5s be rooted? I like stock appearence but debloated and the ability to use wifi hotspot because of my unlimited data plan.
Is there an SD slot? the non expandability of my ihone bothers me.
Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?
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Seeing you want a SD card I would just wait. The Note 6/7 will be coming out in August so it's only about a month away. From the leaked specs it sounds like it's going to be a bumped up S7 with a slightly better processor, bigger battery and more ram. Along with a Note 5 I own the S7 edge and really like the camera and external SD. The Note 5 is a beautiful phone but I would wait a few weeks before you spend that kind of cash on a new phone. There is currently no root for either phone but you can disable any app with the paid version of Package Disabler pro (no PC required) or the Debloater tool witch is free but requires a PC. I also believe you can tether with FoxFi but I'm not 100% sure on that.

I to would wait for the next model. My Note 5 was fine until MM came out. I may revert back to the older software. No removable battery is a pain. I haven't had a memory problem but would still like to expand when needed. I have the 64 gig model.

b4u2 said:
I to would wait for the next model. My Note 5 was fine until MM came out. I may revert back to the older software. No removable battery is a pain. I haven't had a memory problem but would still like to expand when needed. I have the 64 gig model.
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I agree. Wait until note 7 edge. It will be out in 2 months. You get waterptoof s7 edge phone with a stylus and SD card support. Im stuck with note 5 till next year and ill get the note 8 by then.
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Foxfi works on my 5 even with the latest updates. Still not used to all the ads though. I've been rooted since my first Droid. Life ad-free was so ....so...free
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Wait.
I have the Note 5 and there is no root for the Verizon version.

Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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It did at first for me. But ive grown out of the root, recovery and flashing rom days. It was fun and all until dev support stops. And the Rom stays forever on kitkat 4.4.2 and meanwhile the phone is now on lolipop 5.1 or marshmallow 6.0.1 and getting left behind.
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It did at first for me. But ive grown out of the root, recovery and flashing rom days. It was fun and all until dev support stops. And the Rom stays forever on kitkat 4.4.2 and meanwhile the phone is now on lolipop 5.1 or marshmallow 6.0.1 and getting left behind.
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Same here but I was on the other end too. I got tired of wasting the days making ROMs just for Verizon to kill root the next update. I love the Samsung phones so I got used to no root. At least package disabler works and we have themes.

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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No the only S7 Edge that is rootable is the Chinese version. It's not available in the U.S.A. It's still a great phone root or not. You can have free teathering without root, read post #2 again. Root would be better but it's looking pretty dismal with a Samsung device.

SS4Luck said:
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For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.

JulesJam said:
For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.
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I'd wait I have an iPhone also bit mines jail broken so I still kinda like it

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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In case you didn't know the S7 Edge now has root. I'm definitely keeping mine now.

Misterxtc said:
In case you didn't know the S7 Edge now has root. I'm definitely keeping mine now.
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Yeah but they got root because a Samsung employee leaked a signed engineering bootloader.

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Yeah but they got root because a Samsung employee leaked a signed engineering bootloader.
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I'll take it any way I can get it. It's not perfect but at least the file system can be modded to ones preference and full system back ups can be done.

wait for note 7 , i`m sick of absence of expansion slot for my note 5 , also battery back up is not so good.

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I'll take it any way I can get it. It's not perfect but at least the file system can be modded to ones preference and full system back ups can be done.
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Me too but my point was simply that this was a freak case due to the leak. We can't analogize anything they did with the S7 to the Note 5 because we don't have a signed engineering kernel for our device.
The fact that the S7 got rooted with a leaked signed engineering bootloader is no reason for us to have hope. We can't count on a Samsung employee leaking signed files like that, they are risking their job.
Rooting the S7 wasn't due to a dev finding an exploit; it was due to a Samsung employee leaking a file that they shouldn't have. Or worse, someone who wasn't a Samsung employee doing something illegal to obtain the file.

JulesJam said:
For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.
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Actually, it is usually the opposite. The new device gets huge subsidies whereas the older devices stay at full price.
That having been said, it is pretty obvious to me that if you love the note series, and are into control of your phone, then the Note 4 Remains the best Android phone ever made for Verizon, and the best in the note series.
The list of benefits for the Note 4 is plethora: Root. Unlock Bootloader. Replaceable battery. SD card support. MHL. USB on-the-go. IR blaster. Great ROM support up to MM. Wireless charging option. Gorgeous screen. Incredibly durable build quality.
FYI: the first 8 benefits are not available on any other Verizon phone.

(Root Discussion) [Nothing Yet] Snapdragon G965U

All discussion and info pertaining to root goes here.
Will update this OP as needed.
4/26/2018- There are TWO people working on root. Don't expect it ANYTIME soon. ?. Zero progress has been made since release.

Reserved

This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root method for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
Note: As some of you know like with the Note 8, there exists the v1, v2, v2.5, v3 root methods for the different firmware. What I'm curious about is at what point will we be completely locked out of our S9+'s due to those virus updates/patches?
Tip: DO NO BLINDLY JUMP TO UPDATES FOLKS... NEIN NEIN NEIN.... If you roll up too far and that virus update/patch so happens to be the one to lock the device out from ever being able to obtain some kind of root, you'll be totally SOL.

iunlock said:
This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
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Stock has come a long way.
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Stock has come a long way.
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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+

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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+
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What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?

I'm very happy with 8.0

iunlock said:
For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?
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The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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sicfast said:
The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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iunlock said:
That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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Pretty much the way it is in the automotive world. You blow it up, you fix it.
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why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.

G965F doesnt support B71 for Tmobile in USA

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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Because that is the default device for the North American market.
I'm perfectly happy with my SD version. Good battery life and performance seems to be spectacular.

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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...AND because those with T-Mobile can get land a killer deal on the top Samsung flagships.
Ex. T-Mobile had a BOGO Deal on the Note 8, which makes both of my Note 8's come out to ~$410. If I sell my 2nd one, I would be making +$300 to own my current Note 8 LOL ... just saying... (Pic attached of the $820 pre paid Mastercard for proof that I got back for the 2nd Note 8... not that it's needed, but it doesn't hurt to back it up.) Even if I keep my 2nd Note 8 as a back up, I'm still in the win for obtaining a flagship for less than the wannabe chinese knock off's out there that are no longer really cheap at $450-$500+ now *cough* OP5 ...
The S9/S9+ has a trade in deal right now as well for either $200 or $360, depending on what phone you trade in. So why would I pass up getting $200 for my old S4's and S5's? ...there's no way to get even close to that in today's market.... it's a no brainer.
I do agree that the Exynos variants are much better in terms of CPU and Dev support. A non rooted phone is useless to me, so that is one of the reasons why I even opted for the SD Note 8, ONLY because it has root. As for the S9+ there is a working Titanium Back Up alternative that allows me to freeze the virus software updates so that's the only reason why the S9+ is not going back. We're all hoping for a root for the SD S9+'s.... fingers crossed.
Of course I'd love to get my hands on the 256GB Exynos S9+, however, it is still unsure if it will suffer from the carrier aggregation the Exynos Note 8 had on our US networks. I know that there are a few folks that have ordered the Korean 256GB Exynos variant, so once we get confirmation that those work 100% with TM, I'm all in for another S9+.

So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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Hopefully the S9 line gets root. The S8 having no proper form of root at the time and the Note 8 being such a good deal while having root made it hard not to get. Hopefully they Note 9 has a form of Samfail again.

jagrave said:
So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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I'm wondering the same thing. Please.
Dude, after the s5, all of my knowledge on rooting etc has gone in the crapper.
I have the unlocked us variant but am on Verizon's network.
As ll the talk regarding the s8+ was even so hard for me to understand and all this used to be so easy. Where did I take a wrong turn? Lol

Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.

lightninbug said:
Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.
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Noooooooo! I don't even know where to begin to help.
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