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Hello guys,
Well i need some advice from real people. There are two models in my country: international One X and One XL. You know what the differences are. So maybe someone tested both with same kernel and os version. Which processor is better? Tegra 3 or Snapdragon clocked Krait S4?
In your opinion which one to buy and why? Or just go for One S?
P.S. There are like 1 million reviews and benchmarks and like every single one is different.
Thank you for your opinion!
redh4t said:
Hello guys,
Well i need some advice from real people. There are two models in my country: international One X and One XL. You know what the differences are. So maybe someone tested both with same kernel and os version. Which processor is better? Tegra 3 or Snapdragon clocked Krait S4?
In your opinion which one to buy and why? Or just go for One S?
P.S. There are like 1 million reviews and benchmarks and like every single one is different.
Thank you for your opinion!
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S4 for the battery.
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S4 because its the future.
S4 for the LTE.
S4 for the battery life.
S4 for the win
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I really do not need LTE. The main thing is speed! And about battery? It is really big difference? Or just go for Galaxy S3...? I just love HTC design, and galaxy is just near ugly, but speed is more important, just hate lag so much.
28nm ftw
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S4 processor is better. The tegra 3 was rushed so they could be the first to get a quad core. It's crappy architecture. The s4 is better for everything but gaming but only by a little and it kills battery on the tegra
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Speed difference is negligible. S4 wins in a lot of benchmarks, and Tegra wins in a couple. And you would likely not see much difference in real world use. Same performance, but better battery life on the S4.
Also, at launch the Tegra version had graphical glitches, and a number of other bugs that were attributed to the Tegra chipset. Not sure if these were ever sorted out, as I don't keep up with that version. But many were doubting it would be fixed anytime soon, as NVIDIA is notorious for taking forever to address such issues.
And you might think you don't need LTE. But its not just about speed. I get fantastic data reception at my house now under LTE, where under HSPA+ it was dismal (1 bar, with frequent connection drops). At some point, you may find your self in a location(s) that has poor HSPA reception, and LTE will save the day.
Every Tegra device I've put my hands on has always seemed far too slow and glitchy for the supposedly excellent hardware and software behind it. Except the Zune HD, but everyone ignored the Tegra 1 for some reason. S4's got better battery, chances are they are basically identical in real world use. The only downside to the S4 is the lack of official support for the Tegra games, but I'm sure we'll be able to play them in time.
To be honest, we might be able to do them now if Chainfire3d works for us.
I'd buy a Qualcomm based device over a Tegra based one any day of the week for all of the reasons already mentioned.
The S4 may be "only" dual core, but it's the better chip.
sweet, another thread for this
you should of done something original, like ask one x vs. galaxy s3
gunnyman said:
I'd buy a Qualcomm based device over a Tegra based one any day of the week for all of the reasons already mentioned.
The S4 may be "only" dual core, but it's the better chip.
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there are s4 with quad core. a chinese phone maker jiayu, is making the jiayu s1 with s4 pro. that is 4 cores with gpu andreno 320! and with 2 gb ram with 32 gb memory with sd card slot and 2500 mah battery or 3000 mah battery!, with a 3.0 megapixel cam in front and 13 megapixel in the bag, and is thin!. only for 260 or more dollars!. incredible no? (gorila glass maybe, like the other older models!) and the value is near the nexus 4, but this one is better, with more battery, (the jiayu g4 with an older procesor with quadcore wins the nexus 4, this will win the samsum galaxy note 2 or more) jiayu is good with good performance battery and resistant products. and very beautiful too
http://www.gizchina.com/2013/01/30/jiayu-s1-prototype-spotted-alongside-g3/
and the definition isnt hd is full hd 440+ ppi !
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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I love Xiaomi I have a M2S and is a great pone. How do you find the size is not to big? congratulations for your amazing Phone !
real iphone killer
cmesa said:
I love Xiaomi I have a M2S and is a great pone. How do you find the size is not to big? congratulations for your amazing Phone !
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i like this 5 inch phone ,it is great price.best phone Configuration,i think xiaomi phone will be the real iphone killer
I really want to buy one of these. But I can't afford the $500+ price tag. I tried to buy one from xiaomi.com but after signing up, i couldn't verify my phone number to complete an order (I assume only China phone numbers work for verification). :what:
I wish I knew someone who lives in China and could buy one at the local price (<$400) for me and ship it to me in the U.S.
I guesses I'll have to settle for an over-priced MI2S instead.
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i recommend one store to sale xiaomi phone
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I really want to buy one of these. But I can't afford the $500+ price tag. I tried to buy one from xiaomi.com but after signing up, i couldn't verify my phone number to complete an order (I assume only China phone numbers work for verification). :what:
I wish I knew someone who lives in China and could buy one at the local price (<$400) for me and ship it to me in the U.S.
I guesses I'll have to settle for an over-priced MI2S instead.
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hi, i recommend one store to sale xiaomi phone,i bought xiaomi 2 phone from this store,it is very good phone and service.you can see the link. i found the 32g version xiaomi 2s phone are very good price.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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That spec sheet would have been so much better with just 1 more GB of RAM.
bluelover1986 said:
hi, i recommend one store to sale xiaomi phone,i bought xiaomi 2 phone from this store,it is very good phone and service.you can see the link. i found the 32g version xiaomi 2s phone are very good price.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
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I want to buy this phone, can you provide us with a mini review and how is the build quality ?
alififi said:
i think xiaomi phone will be the real iphone killer
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yes.me too
perfact phone with best price
hamdir said:
I want to buy this phone, can you provide us with a mini review and how is the build quality ?
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many people like xiaomi phone now. it is new great company like apple . this xiaomi phone 2s are very good .and the quality is also good.the best is price. use highest phone configration and offer lowest price now. i strongly recommend xiaomi phone. i bought it from this store in the past.you can check this link. if you like this phone.you can buy one.i am sure you will love it.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
bluelover1986 said:
many people like xiaomi phone now. it is new great company like apple . this xiaomi phone 2s are very good .and the quality is also good.the best is price. use highest phone configration and offer lowest price now. i strongly recommend xiaomi phone. i bought it from this store in the past.you can check this link. if you like this phone.you can buy one.i am sure you will love it.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
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any reviews of this phone? its tempting..
I am getting this from $210 from chinise website aliexpress.com. Is it real or fake...link is http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...xt=xiaomi+m3&CatId=5090301&SortType=price_asc
please reply guys I am in big confusion
dks.worldkumar said:
I am getting this from $210 from chinise website aliexpress.com. Is it real or fake...link is http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...xt=xiaomi+m3&CatId=5090301&SortType=price_asc
please reply guys I am in big confusion
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for this price it can't be original
vhl71 said:
any reviews of this phone? its tempting..
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Did they ship the phone from China?
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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Where did you buy from? I can only see a 16gb version from the xiaomi website? I need this phone!
I've seen a lot of people complaining that they received fake phones form aliexpress. just do a quick search and you'll probably see them.
Xiaomi itself doesn't sell or ship the phone out of china, but there's some online stores that sell it and ship it worldwide.
I've seen people recommending ibuygou.com and they have some awesome prices. When it's available again I'll probably buy it.
If anyone that has bought it could talk a bit about it and where/how you bought it I would be very thankful.
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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Only NVIDIA Tegra 4
bluelover1986 said:
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
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AFAIK they have two versions for the CPU, but NOT two CPUs in a single device.
Eishiro said:
I've seen people recommending ibuygou.com and they have some awesome prices. When it's available again I'll probably buy it.
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well, i'll keep u posted. i've ordered on IBG site two hongmi phones (international wcdma version) just yesterday. if everything goes right, i'd be the proud owner of those jewels in a week or so, by DHL courier 30 bucks transport. fingers crossed! :fingers-crossed:
any hope of GFXBenchmark for the s800 version?
dks.worldkumar said:
I am getting this from $210 from chinise website aliexpress.com. Is it real or fake...link is http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...xt=xiaomi+m3&CatId=5090301&SortType=price_asc
please reply guys I am in big confusion
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Be carefull everything low prise with MTK proceessor usually called HTM M3 , is a replica from the real thing,...
the Xaiomi - Millet MI3 is availible right now from ca. 300 euro ( 412 $ ) on this link you posted from Aliexpress
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bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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CAN YOU DO Video recording in 90 fps like on the MI 2s or even better in 120 fps on the Samsung Note 3 (& phone 5s with that apple sign) , i can not believe MIUI Xiaomi left this feature away climbing from Mi2s to Mi3!!!!!!!!!!!
please guys all of you who have there MI3 already check , and reply to me, I want to buy the MI3 but there is no chance for me to test and have it in my hands before to check myself :angel:
So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
No one has a comment?
tasanhalas said:
So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
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The 801 is certianly superior in GPU, it destroys the Adreno 405. The CPU of the ARMv8 615 will get you better battery life and similar processing speed and could even go faster once devs go full 64 bit. 801 is still the better chipset even if it is older, the GPU makes the difference.
I recently got my Nexus 6P (64GB) stolen and I'm thinking of getting the Mi4 since I'm on a tight budget. I'm also considering getting a Redmi 3S but it's a bit expensive compared to the Mi4 being an older device. I haven't used a custom rom ever since I used a Note 5, iPhone 6 Plus and Nexus 6P and I'm thinking of using a custom rom if I do get the Mi4. So do you guys think the Mi4 is still worth getting in 2017?
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
Snapdragon 801 seems plenty fast to me, I'm not trying to play VR games on my phone after all. Maybe some people are?
P.Kosunen said:
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
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Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
gemmoglock said:
Unfortunately no. The Mi4 uses a Snapdragon 801 which here: http://www.gsmarena.com/mobile_chipset_guide-review-1561p4.php does worse than many other newer lower-end chipsets. So get phones with Snapdragon 6XX for better value and future proofing
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OK, so, which one is better than the Redmi 4 at $175 (current price)?
Which one is better than a Oneplus One for under $300?
I've had a Oneplus One since shortly after they were released. Looking to upgrade eventually, once I can get something with: USB C, better battery life, better camera - for $300 or less.
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Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi4-with-two-different-camera-sensors-sony-or-samsung.33572/
Can't find other one with Google, too much results. IIRC it was in en.miui.com.
As a mi4 user myself, I do not recommend it this day. This device is very good incase of build quality and battery life but it is outdated. You can at least go for Mi4c ( if I'm not mistaken, the one with sd 808 and 3 gigs of ram ) It will get Nougat too in summer maybe.
still works fine
it all depends on your usage of the phone. If you're looking into playing games then the SD801 might be not enough any more. If you need all LTE bands working, the MI4 wouldn't be the right thing.
cons:
-- gpu performance not up to par with current gpu's
-- different versions of the phone without LTE or only band 1,3
- only qualcomm quick charge 2.0
pro:
++ 5 inch JDI IPS screen is still top (1080p)
++ 13MP rear camera with sony sensor (IMX214 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ 8MP front camera with sony sensor (IMX219 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ build quality is top
+ 3080mAh battery is good enough
for me the best thing is the community support: you still get all sorts of custom roms including the latest nougat updates (check the MI3 forum, they are mostly working for the MI4 too).
gemmoglock said:
Unfortunately no. The Mi4 uses a Snapdragon 801 which here: http://www.gsmarena.com/mobile_chipset_guide-review-1561p4.php does worse than many other newer lower-end chipsets. So get phones with Snapdragon 6XX for better value and future proofing
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P.Kosunen said:
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
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critofur said:
Snapdragon 801 seems plenty fast to me, I'm not trying to play VR games on my phone after all. Maybe some people are?
Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
OK, so, which one is better than the Redmi 4 at $175 (current price)?
Which one is better than a Oneplus One for under $300?
I've had a Oneplus One since shortly after they were released. Looking to upgrade eventually, once I can get something with: USB C, better battery life, better camera - for $300 or less.
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P.Kosunen said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi4-with-two-different-camera-sensors-sony-or-samsung.33572/
Can't find other one with Google, too much results. IIRC it was in en.miui.com.
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0perat0r said:
As a mi4 user myself, I do not recommend it this day. This device is very good incase of build quality and battery life but it is outdated. You can at least go for Mi4c ( if I'm not mistaken, the one with sd 808 and 3 gigs of ram ) It will get Nougat too in summer maybe.
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knoxwalles said:
it all depends on your usage of the phone. If you're looking into playing games then the SD801 might be not enough any more. If you need all LTE bands working, the MI4 wouldn't be the right thing.
cons:
-- gpu performance not up to par with current gpu's
-- different versions of the phone without LTE or only band 1,3
- only qualcomm quick charge 2.0
pro:
++ 5 inch JDI IPS screen is still top (1080p)
++ 13MP rear camera with sony sensor (IMX214 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ 8MP front camera with sony sensor (IMX219 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ build quality is top
+ 3080mAh battery is good enough
for me the best thing is the community support: you still get all sorts of custom roms including the latest nougat updates (check the MI3 forum, they are mostly working for the MI4 too).
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Sorry for the super late reply, been busy with my studies. Anyway I got myself a Redmi 4A instead due to unexpected circumstances that killed my budget (lol). I don't really play games on my phone so I guess this would do for now. I'll save up and probably get something better by the end of this year or earlier next year. Though the Redmi 4A battery life is pretty good but I do miss the large screen, stereo speakers, and camera of the 6P *sobs*
Straight to the point, I'm looking to purchase one of the phones but I'm not sure which to get. I'm mostly looking into the selfie camera and XDA support so yeah not sure which one
Supracer said:
Straight to the point, I'm looking to purchase one of the phones but I'm not sure which to get. I'm mostly looking into the selfie camera and XDA support so yeah not sure which one
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I will go for Xiaomi mi 9. Wide angle camera, Dual SIM, Amoled, My mother toung, Call recorder and great price. Only missing 3.5 aux but I will survive. BB Oneplus....
My list:
Mi9: Most likely better AOSP support, cheaper
S10E: better screen, 3,5 jack, smaller size
I'm also thinking about buying either the Mi9 or S10E. At the moment, I'm slightly leaning towards the Mi9 because of the price and also because I don't really like Samsung's software.
That being said, Samsung has improved radically over the past years and Xiaomi is not exactly delivering mint Android either.
As for the size: Would love to buy the Mi9 SE but it looks like it's not going to be available in Europe and that it will also lack the necessary 4G bands to make it work properly.
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I'm also thinking about buying either the Mi9 or S10E. At the moment, I'm slightly leaning towards the Mi9 because of the price and also because I don't really like Samsung's software.
That being said, Samsung has improved radically over the past years and Xiaomi is not exactly delivering mint Android either.
As for the size: Would love to buy the Mi9 SE but it looks like it's not going to be available in Europe and that it will also lack the necessary 4G bands to make it work properly.
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Would definitely go for the Mi9. Depending on region Samsung has decided to use their Exynos variant in comparison to Snapdragon 855.
We all know the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 855 but with regards to power efficiency, we are still unsure. Last years Galaxy S9 Exynos variant suffered from severe battery issues which ultimately resulted in me returning my S9 within the cooling off period.
The Mi 9 is very attractive with its Snapdragon 855 and scores well on gsmarena battery test even beating the p20 pro (4000mah) which I currently own and would not sell apart from sh** selfie camera being worst ever. Ultimately Samsungs decision to only ship Exynos variant phones within the UK is a shocking one.
We should be given the choice
Mi9 I've just received mine.
I was going to get the S10+ but when I seen this and the price tag my mind was made.
Screen is great,cameras front and back are brilliant, it's so fast and smooth it's unreal. Fingerprint scanner is very good it's so quick and accurate nothing like OnePlus 6t that was dreadful for me.
Only think this device doesn't have for me is dual speakers, IP rating, SD slot.
Buy Mi9 Only if you dont mind the lack of OIS....camera at night is a joke.i sell mine for that after just 24 hours!!!
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Buy Mi9 Only if you dont mind the lack of OIS....camera at night is a joke.i sell mine for that after just 24 hours!!!
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Agreed, camera so far one of the aspects I'm slightly less pleased with, especially coming from the Pixel 2 xl. However, a Mi 8 gcam port works already and so does night sight, which even though its not meant for this device works pretty well. So I'm definitely gonna be patient and follow its development as great things await us I believe! Would be great if we can use the telephoto and wide angle cameras with the gcam port!
I have installed gcam in mi9 with night mode... quality better BUT NOT with low light.you need a tripod ..theres not optical image stabilization (hardware)
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Would definitely go for the Mi9. Depending on region Samsung has decided to use their Exynos variant in comparison to Snapdragon 855.
We all know the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 855 but with regards to power efficiency, we are still unsure. Last years Galaxy S9 Exynos variant suffered from severe battery issues which ultimately resulted in me returning my S9 within the cooling off period.
The Mi 9 is very attractive with its Snapdragon 855 and scores well on gsmarena battery test even beating the p20 pro (4000mah) which I currently own and would not sell apart from sh** selfie camera being worst ever. Ultimately Samsungs decision to only ship Exynos variant phones within the UK is a shocking one.
We should be given the choice
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I'm not so sure about "Exynos" is faster than 855, of course maybe Samsung phones with Exynos feel faster than Snapdragon?
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I'm not so sure about "Exynos" is faster than 855, of course maybe Samsung phones with Exynos feel faster than Snapdragon?
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This years exynos has also failed in terms of battery life.
The snapdragon 855 is way more efficient than the exynos
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This years exynos has also failed in terms of battery life.
The snapdragon 855 is way more efficient than the exynos
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Exynos is only better in singlecore (multicore is faster in 855) but exynos does that at the expense of a lot of heat and battery. Also the GPU in 855 is like 2 generations better than exynos.
yes, my s9+ exynos still does beat the mi9 in single core. but the s9+ gets beaten in gpu tests even by my older mix 2 NON S (snapdragon 835!!.. not 845!!) 855 gpu is a beast. Exynos s10 gpu is just slighty better than s9 exynos because they did improve the power per core.. but removed like 40% of the cores... (g72mp18 vs g76mp12)
and that single core perf. is irrelevant.. My mix2 with a good rom is AT LEAST as fast as the s9+ in app opening, web surfing etc.. believe I tested.