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I'm looking to buy a new device for me mum, which would you say is better?
both 5 inch HD screens. I would of easily gone with the moto g if it had 2gb ram. but the 1gb ram really puts me off. is there a similar phone as the moto g but with 2gb ram?
I can get the p6000 for £101 delivered.
Well, does your mum care software updates? If he cares, get Moto g. If not, i would pick p6000
eddydc1 said:
Well, does your mum care software updates? If he cares, get Moto g. If not, i would pick p6000
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so the mt6732 is much better than snapdragon 400?
salespalace said:
so the mt6732 is much better than snapdragon 400?
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Snapdragon usually means more battery efficient. Even with half the RAM, I think the Moto G (2nd Gen) is overall a more reliable and better quality product.
elephone p6000 screen glitches...
the elephone might seem a great steal for the first sight, i mean 4g lte, 2gb ram, 64-bit quad core and a 13mp camera.... but i would suggest a quick visit to their forums to know whats up as it has some unsmooth scrolling issues and no otg support plus e-compass glitches makes it an overall unreliable package, moto provides quality other chinese oems cant provide my friend.
ziad abdelhamid said:
the elephone might seem a great steal for the first sight, i mean 4g lte, 2gb ram, 64-bit quad core and a 13mp camera.... but i would suggest a quick visit to their forums to know whats up as it has some unsmooth scrolling issues and no otg support plus e-compass glitches makes it an overall unreliable package, moto provides quality other chinese oems cant provide my friend.
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yep, i've read on that, but the p6000 is one of the only chinese devices that have the stock google look. and i've read on how to fix the smooth scrolling issues. otg is not required, and the compass likewise. me mam just mainly uses phone to call, a lot of whatsapp with her friends (hence extra storage is needed) and watching videos. she doesn't browse much. and uses viber/skype/hangouts (those types of apps) nothing much else.
cubot x9!
salespalace said:
yep, i've read on that, but the p6000 is one of the only chinese devices that have the stock google look. and i've read on how to fix the smooth scrolling issues. otg is not required, and the compass likewise. me mam just mainly uses phone to call, a lot of whatsapp with her friends (hence extra storage is needed) and watching videos. she doesn't browse much. and uses viber/skype/hangouts (those types of apps) nothing much else.
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ok i get ur point, btw check out a phone called cubot x9... it's an iphone 6 clone coming in at 6.9 mm a 8mp camera (interpolated to 13mp) and an 5mp front camera (8mp interpolated). If u wouldn't mind giving up on 4g then thats a good solid phone. i wanted to get it hence my moto g got hard bricked but i decided to just wait for the fix.
ziad abdelhamid said:
ok i get ur point, btw check out a phone called cubot x9... it's an iphone 6 clone coming in at 6.9 mm a 8mp camera (interpolated to 13mp) and an 5mp front camera (8mp interpolated). If u wouldn't mind giving up on 4g then thats a good solid phone. i wanted to get it hence my moto g got hard bricked but i decided to just wait for the fix.
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nope don't like the cpu, not good enough in my opinion. I've decided to scrap those two, and go for either a used galaxy s4 then flash the google play edition or get the zte blade s6 brand new from amazon for 170. the zte has snapdragon 615 and lollipop. would it be better to go for that?
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nope don't like the cpu, not good enough in my opinion. I've decided to scrap those two, and go for either a used galaxy s4 then flash the google play edition or get the zte blade s6 brand new from amazon for 170. the zte has snapdragon 615 and lollipop. would it be better to go for that?
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ZTE Blade S6 is £160 here. There is no Gorilla Glass, but it looks like you need a case for this phone anyway since the actual house is fairly shoddy.
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ZTE Blade S6 is £160 here. There is no Gorilla Glass, but it looks like you need a case for this phone anyway since the actual house is fairly shoddy.
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decided to go for the s4, got it for £140 in good condition. will convert to google play edition. and then all good to go.
The new Xiaomi device was announced ! I found this phone on pre-order this means the phone will be released very soon.
Here are some of the main specs of the phone :
5.0inch IPS touchscreen, FHD 1920x1080 pixels
Snapdragon 808 64-bit Hexa Core, GPU: Adreno 418
MIUI V7(based on Android 5.1), 3GB RAM + 32GB ROM
Dual micro sim card, Dual standy
13.0MP back camera and 5.0MP front camera,with flashlight and auto focus
Networking: 2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz;3G WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz;
4G FDD-LTE: 1800/2600MHz, TDD-LTE: B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
i may pre order it now, what do you think is it a good buy? You can check the full specs here : http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiao...-Core-1-8GHz-13-0MP-5-0MP---White-354224.html
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The new Xiaomi device was announced ! I found this phone on pre-order this means the phone will be released very soon.
Here are some of the main specs of the phone :
5.0inch IPS touchscreen, FHD 1920x1080 pixels
Snapdragon 808 64-bit Hexa Core, GPU: Adreno 418
MIUI V7(based on Android 5.1), 3GB RAM + 32GB ROM
Dual micro sim card, Dual standy
13.0MP back camera and 5.0MP front camera,with flashlight and auto focus
Networking: 2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz;3G WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz;
4G FDD-LTE: 1800/2600MHz, TDD-LTE: B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
i may pre order it now, what do you think is it a good buy? You can check the full specs here : http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiao...-Core-1-8GHz-13-0MP-5-0MP---White-354224.html
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Which device are you coming from ?
It really seems a great piece of device with good hardware, great specifications, dual sim support among others.
The only reason that I am still weighing this device over lg G4 (about 200$ expensive) is the price.
G4 has to offer these but it all comes to what I need in my phone?
Do I really need a great camera, NFC for payments, wireless charging, Quick charge (30 minutes for 60% charge compared to 2 hours ten minutes for full charge), a removable battery and expandable memory ? Also, the screen pixel density and results are great for LG G4 where screens are a bit dim/ yellowish for some Xiaomi devices.
However, no SDcard and non removable battery seems a bit of deal breaker for this device. Also, i am not a really big fan of MIUI and their reluctance to release source code which makes it difficult for development.
I might get this device in a month as I am still deciding my options between this, Lg G4, and Moto X Style.
You got a point there!
I wonder how the battery life performs on the Xiaomi, also the site i provided has a great deal on that device, thats why i am considering it and i just got a new motherboard that supports usb type c
I'm wondering how network performance will be.. So used to tmobile LTE speeds
patriotaki said:
You got a point there!
I wonder how the battery life performs on the Xiaomi, also the site i provided has a great deal on that device, thats why i am considering it and i just got a new motherboard that supports usb type c
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I've got a Mi4 that has a 5" 1080p screen with a 3080 battery. Battery life on this phone is pretty amazing. So I would expect the Mi4C to be just as good or better. Getting 5-6 hours SOT is not a problem. I'm usually at 3 SOT at 50-60% battery.
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I'm wondering how network performance will be.. So used to tmobile LTE speeds
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It's not that bad and it's definitely usable. LTE is nice due to the no latency when transferring data. But the speeds of HSPA+ are plenty for everyday things such as streaming music, web browsing, emails, GPS, etc.
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Ulver said:
I've got a Mi4 that has a 5" 1080p screen with a 3080 battery. Battery life on this phone is pretty amazing. So I would expect the Mi4C to be just as good or better. Getting 5-6 hours SOT is not a problem. I'm usually at 3 SOT at 50-60% battery.
It's not that bad and it's definitely usable. LTE is nice due to the no latency when transferring data. But the speeds of HSPA+ are plenty for everyday things such as streaming music, web browsing, emails, GPS, etc.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
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I have Tmobile.. how would the 4c work? im guessing ATT would have better data right?
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I have Tmobile.. how would the 4c work? im guessing ATT would have better data right?
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The 4C would work fine on T-Mobile. You would just get 3G/HSPA+.
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Ulver said:
The 4C would work fine on T-Mobile. You would just get 3G/HSPA+.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
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Now would a Xiaomi device work with Android Wear? How about android pay
Yes !
Interesting..
Gearbest says the mi 4c has "External memory: TF card up to 32GB (not included)"
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_241903.html
Does that mean one of the sim car slots could be micro sd?
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Now would a Xiaomi device work with Android Wear? How about android pay
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It will work with Android Wear. I've used it with both my Mi3 and Mi4 when I had my GWatch. You just have to give it the correct permissions in MIUIs permission manager. Also, texts didn't work that well, but it's nothing a 3rd party app like Evolve SMS didn't solve.
You'll probably have issues with Android Pay as the Mi4C doesn't have NFC [emoji6] . I believe only the Mi3 has NFC.
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It will work with Android Wear. I've used it with both my Mi3 and Mi4 when I had my GWatch. You just have to give it the correct permissions in MIUIs permission manager. Also, texts didn't work that well, but it's nothing a 3rd party app like Evolve SMS didn't solve.
You'll probably have issues with Android Pay as the Mi4C doesn't have NFC [emoji6] . I believe only the Mi3 has NFC.
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oh, thought it had nfc.. thats kinda a bummer though
Yeah, I wish it had NFC too, but I've been with my Mi4 long enough that it doesn't really bother me. I am seriously debating this phone over the upcoming Nexus phones.
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Interesting..
Gearbest says the mi 4c has "External memory: TF card up to 32GB (not included)"
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_241903.html
Does that mean one of the sim car slots could be micro sd?
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thats weird
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Interesting..
Gearbest says the mi 4c has "External memory: TF card up to 32GB (not included)"
Does that mean one of the sim car slots could be micro sd?
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According to the Xiaomi official website, Mi 4c doesn't support TF cards.
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Yeah, I wish it had NFC too, but I've been with my Mi4 long enough that it doesn't really bother me. I am seriously debating this phone over the upcoming Nexus phones.
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Same here. NFC is also my concern...I have already converted to other phones now.
camera
i am little worry about camera . sample photos of Sony's sensor looks great.but i am not sure about the Samsung sensor! how can i trust and get this one. its really perfect phone specially when you considering the price. but i am still don't know what i have to do because camera is important to me .
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Yeah, I wish it had NFC too, but I've been with my Mi4 long enough that it doesn't really bother me. I am seriously debating this phone over the upcoming Nexus phones.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
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Well in terms of specs, it beats the Nexus 5X, more ram, battery and has ir blaster. Hopefully camera is good. They both have snapdragon 808 CPU so hoping it gets good ROM support. I'm gonna get this over the disappointing nexus 5x
i bought mine from geekbuying should arrive in 2 days will post feedback!
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i bought mine from geekbuying should arrive in 2 days will post feedback!
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The screen isn't scratch resistance.be carful really recommended useing screen protector.thats really foolish company use snap 808 for this product so it should be a semi flagship! I don't know gorilla glass layer how much costs :|
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Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)(MSM8974PRO-AA)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
-Slippery
-SD card problem //fixed
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
If I'm right also oneplus x lacks in 800 Mhz LTE band
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No. Oneplus x for eu include band 20. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
I was thinking of getting the opx for a family member but I think the mi4c is better due to what you mentioned, bigger battery, Wi-Fi ac, USB C, ir blaster which is a bonus and the soc. Camera is very good and fast. Maybe wait for opx review with camera samples.
Custom roms may be slow but there is a cm12.1 rom which is a daily driver except a few minor bugs.
Touch problem was only there on the first ROM. All roms after that had no problems with it. We get weekly updates aswell but probably won't get official marshmallow soon (custom rom, 99% sure though), so you're pretty much set on the software part. I'd say the screen is very good, it has high contrast rates and looks very bright. You can control the saturation etc. so blue (cold) and warm colors is probably what they are reporting.
The advantage to OPX I'd see is band 20, it looks a bit better (just my opinion, but build quality is solid on both), has AMOLED and it has MicroSD.
I already have mi 4c and its better than even one plus two
One plus x is average phone.
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I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
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OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
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Apparently xiaomi release source a few months later? When it does, it will be the better phone.
I'd wait for camera samples so that way youll have an all rounder phone
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I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
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Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
andrew551 said:
Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
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If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
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If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
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Agree. I pick Mi4C because once I spend money, I want to use hardware for as long as possible. Mi4C is more future ready with USB-C, WiFi-ac, 64bit compliance and cost. AMOLED is one thing that I'd miss but guess that's a minor negative.
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Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
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No tweaks but aggressively toggling settings like aeroplane mode when on my train journey to/from work (no reception), only turning sync on when I connect to WiFi and then only connecting to WiFi occasionally to check emails. No bluetooth, location (yes, locking on is buggy for me but can get it eventually)
I love my Mi4C, the power, the battery life, the design and the display is awesome (and its not blueish) before I'd buy One Plus X, I would rather buy a Xiaomi Mi4
I just wish the Mi 4c had either 64GB or SD card support as well as band 20, I don't care about NFC. If it had those it'd be the perfect phone for me!
The Mi 4c is superior but if you really need band 20 e. g. you instead have to use 2G there's no way around the one plus x
either way both are solid phones
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
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Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
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Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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Totally agree
ermacwins said:
Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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I guess but at least OP have a global division where RMA and warranty issues get handled. Which is so much better than importing a phone yourself and then having to send it back to China if something goes wrong.
I know what you mean about he plastics, I've had 2 Xiaomi devices myself before. 1 of which was plastic, and it felt alright but if I have a choice I'd always avoid any type of plastic.
http://en.miui.com/thread-208881-1-1.html
Anyone interested about this? I chose the mi4c simply for the snapdragon and i was very tempted by the fingerprint scanner.
Whats your opinion, would you chose this over the mi4c?
well, the cons compared to mi4c: 1. 5.0 lollipop vs 5.1 llp on mi4c 2. many people still prefer 5" devices and the mi4c is a lot smaller and lighter 3. mi4c supports proper fast charging with variable voltage 4. mi4c screen has superior contrast (1700:1 vs 950:1 on the redmi note 3 pro). pros compared to mi4c: 1. more screen real estate 2. better build quality, more of a looker, too 3. fingerprint sensor 4. better battery backup, although it should charge real slow 5. s650 is more or less on the same level of performance with the s808 (maybe a 5% difference in favor of the 650) 6. i still don't know about the camera, mi4c has a 1/3" 13mp, wide angle, f/2.0 sony imx258 sensor with phase detection af vs redmi note 3 pro with a 16mp f/2.0 pdaf, but we still don't know if it's a. a samsung isocell s5k2pxx 1/2.6" sensor (like the one on the s5) b. a sony imx234 1/2.6" (g4 etc) c. a sony imx298 1/2.8" (mate 8 etc) so it should perform either equally or better compared to mi4c 7. it's going to be cheaper than the mi4c !
i would buy the one with unlocked bootloader....
offtopic but may i ask why is there no thread section about redmi note 3 here in xda?
darer99 said:
http://en.miui.com/thread-208881-1-1.html
Anyone interested about this? I chose the mi4c simply for the snapdragon and i was very tempted by the fingerprint scanner.
Whats your opinion, would you chose this over the mi4c?
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Seems like a nice phone, but the SoC is a littel outdated if you ask me, and the size of the phone is too big...
But for the price, it seems like a very good buy!
jonasb_dk said:
Seems like a nice phone, but the SoC is a littel outdated if you ask me, and the size of the phone is too big...
But for the price, it seems like a very good buy!
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Outdated SoC? Snapdragon 650 isn't even in any phone you can buy right now (as far as I know) and yet it's outdated?
lorrisek said:
Outdated SoC? Snapdragon 650 isn't even in any phone you can buy right now (as far as I know) and yet it's outdated?
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Sorry, I read it as SD 615.
It still is a good phone, even better now . No doubt. The screen is just too big for me.
I hate it. The SoC is better (BIG cluster uses A72 instead of A57), the GPU is better (proven by higher AnTuTu score), the rear camera resolution is bigger, the battery is bigger, the screen is bigger, full metal unibody, yet cheaper price. Damn you, xiaomi...
Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
Tarbruh said:
Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
Tarbruh said:
Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
clsA said:
I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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The Xperia X has the edge in performance over the H8 but it overheats when using the camera idk if sony fixed it or not.Axon 7 is pricey for me 600 dollars but its a great phone.The Xiaomi MI 5S is cheap and packs perfromance with the SD 821 but being a Xiaomi doesn't it have poor software ?
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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Im in the same state of endless comparisons and watching reviews for phones . From reviews and speed tests the Honor 8 seems like a great deal , in app opening comparsion it was leading 15 to 5 againts the Iphone 7 Plus if 100% true in normal use its a pretty fast phone and is concidered as one of the best 400 dollar phones . My concern is the UI and support i will slap google now launcher but for support updates and so on its a Huawei after all and i don't have experience with them . Most of my root and rom adventures were made with my Galaxy S3 Neo because it came with Android 4.4.2 and never got an update and with the help of roms it had 6.0.1 from the S6 with an overclocked Kernel and slow motion camera mod. All of the reviews for the X performance say that Sony are asking too much (700$) for the flaws it has . I put a thread on the Sony forum but no response yet . For me the price is lower 430$ for the Xperia but if the bugs are not fixed by Sony its dissapointing . I really like the Galaxy S6 but after all its a 2015 model . Xiaomi MI 5s supports my 4G network but being a Xiaomi software wise i think its badly optimized.
Sheldd said:
Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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I have the Honor 8 and have been using it for the last 3 months or so.
I'm not into all these tests but I know that the phone has stood up to everything that I have thrown at it and I use my phone allot.
If you want a good, solid phone that looks good and will be kept upto date for the next couple of years then get the Honor 8
My flat mate has got the pixel and after using it I really can't see how it's worth the extra couple of £100
John
In my mind, the only phones that are worth getting if you want to flash roms are OnePlus and Google, the rest are not worthwhile. These two phones are the only ones that will get great support on XDA. If this is your purpose then don't even bother considering any other brand, it's just a waste of your time. Even if it is available for other phones you run into hassle with losing warranty by unlocking bootloader and doing more steps than needed. It's better just to get a OnePlus where all the custom rom features are already built in.
If you can get the Honor 8 for $300 new or less and wants a good camera it's worth it. I'm very happy with the camera for still shots which is what I mainly bought the phone for. It's the best camera I've used outside of Samsung so far, I think the Huawei and Samsung are the tops right now for camera. It's better than the Nexus 6P in term of dynamic and colors. Also Huawei currently make the best fingerprint scanner, albeit on the back. The hardware is fast, but expect lots of thermal throttling while gaming.
You will have to deal with some goofy battery management which turns off notification and background running apps, although there is a way to fix this but you have to whitelist the apps in two different nearly hidden places in the settings, although the new Nougat updates is supposed to improve this.
In term of updates support, I think it's pretty poor, at least in term of speed. Many phones are already on Nougat before this one. I do like the fact they made the stock firmware publicly available. The main thing that hampers this phone is the software.
Hey there. I was in the dilemma you are right now two months ago when I bought the Honor 8. I'm not disappointed at all, in the past few years I've used almost every brand there is, HTC, Samsung s3, Lg G2, Sony z3 Compact, Moto G 1 and 2, Sony z3, z3+ and m5, and my last phone was the Huawei p9 lite, I was astonished as to how that "cheap phone" camera could beat my Sony z3+ that I loved so much. That's when I paid attention To Huawei, and man they're doing a great job. Yes maybe in development you won't be able to do much, if that's what you're looking for, maybe it's better to look elsewhere, but in terms of battery, daily use performance and heavy usage, camera, good looking phone, this is a great deal. I bought for 400 when it was released. A few weeks ago my brother got it at 330, which was like stealing haha. And I know this month it will get Nougat. Emui software will be better with the update, not saying it was bad but many disliked it, I'm fine with it to be honest. And Honor offers 2 years of support after the date of release. So you'll get Android updates until mid-2018.
Hope this helps.
I really don't recommend buying a phone at the moment, as u know it's a new year
New phones and chipsets are released and prices eventually will drop. I recommend waiting for couple of months if you can.
Regarding the Honor 8 itself, I know there's something about this phone makes you want it although u can just save a little and get axon 7 or 1+3 and it's not a perfect phone either it lacks some things like OIS for videos and 4K for video.
Other than that it offers a great camera you should check threads here for camera samples, it does take very great still images!
I saw lots of comparisons too between that phone and others. Well in everyday usage there's no difference between it and a snapdragon 820 powered phone regarding opening apps and so .. The kirin 950 is pretty strong scoring 90K+ in antutu benchmark which is okay.. You shouldn't be worried about a game that won't run smoothly on it at the moment! But it's not the best developer friendly unlike snapdragon chipsets!
Beside all that it's a pretty phone ( sexy design, great camera, decent battery & good performance ) it has USB C and fast charging and the chipset supports Vulkan API which makes somewhat it future proof. Also about the EMUI, it can grow on you over time it has neat features not laggy as people might suggest it has theme engine too plenty of customizability and gestures, I don't see it lacking other than the looks of the pure android but that can be fixed by using nova launcher.
Bottom line, if u don't mind the UI and the development area ( it exists but it may take a while ) definitely go for it .. Otherwise u may consider saving or buying One Plus 3 if you're a flashaholic there are plenty of ROMs for the one plus, And a strong development community!
I have the FRD-L14 (64 GB USA version) for $340 total from Amazon. It has replaced my Sony Z3 Compact that I had for two years bought for $500. Tell you what the Honor 8 is worth the money. Fast and responsive. The 4 GB of memory is awesome since apps stay in memory so multitasking is mostly instant. 64 GB memory + 64 GB microSD = awesome. Camera is fast enough with good quality. The screen is the only downside compared to flagship phones costing $600+ but I came from the Sony Z3 Compact display so it's not a problem for me. Maybe I am also lucky but I don't have a blue-ish tint on certain reviews.
The best thing about this is it has Band 12 LTE for TMOBILE. I now have 3 bars of signal sitting in my office instead of 1 or zero or searching all the time. The HD Voice call is also super clear. The speaker phone, though, could be better. The fingerprint scanner is just as good as the Samsung or Apple. Two THUMBS UP. I would upgrade to the Honor 9-10 down the road assuming they keep the price competitive.
Price of Honor 8
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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I just bought a Honor 8 from a dealer on ebay..paid $250....New but no box..
Exactly as the others say the Honor 8 is a great phone! It is fast, good looking and has a great camera! So in 2015 I was looking for a new phone to replace my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this seller showed me the Honor 7 but it didn't really appeal to me that much (Mostly because of EMUI) and I decided to keep on using my S4 Mini.
But a few weeks ago I got the Honor 8 for 325€ (Discounted) even if I didn't really like EMUI that much I must say, it is better than I expected! Now there is a few things I still don't like in EMUI (Like the split Notifications and Shortcuts) but in the new EMUI 5 update that is currently being rolled out, it will just get a whole lot better and many of the things I find annoying is fixed
So would I recommend this phone? Yes I would definitivtly recommend this phone for someone who is looking for a great phone but still not to expensive, even though it doesn't have that many custom ROMS yet (Coming from someone who used Custom ROMS a lot previously) I think we will get more custom ROMS within a few months
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Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it
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I've been using it since 1st December 2016 and I wouldn't recommend it, 'cause:
1. It has no system-level equalizer;
2. It has no system-level audio balance tweaker(?);
3. When using the app com.rubycell.pianisthd, the audio output is full of "clicks"; no longer with android 7
4. It's kirin-based, therefore "good luck" with custom roms.
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I'm not gonna sell it any soon 'cause I can kinda live with it thanks to Poweramp, but come on, the audio subsystem of this phone is sh*t. You should only get it if you're deaf or for some reason you don't enjoy listening to music.
I apologize for being this rude.
The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
PErsonally, I like it over the S7 Edge. Faster and smoother.
Handful of reasons the S7 Edge is the daily driver:
Larger screen
Better video and slightly better camera shots
Audio can be tweaked
Only major con is the ugly IOS skin on the Honor 8. Personally i like it a ton.
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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Unfortunately the OP3 and OP3T have no microSD-cardslot.
You have to consider this.
the Honor 8 has the following advantages.
- fairly fast (Arm Cortex A72 CPU's) and due to a FHD-screen the gfx-perfomance is even slightly faster than e.g. the galaxy S5.
--> so many (older) high-end games run quite good.
- great screen (wide gamut LCD screen)
- IR-blaster
--> and reviewers don't mention this but the Honor's IR-blaster is both output AND input, which means it can "learn" codes from other remotes while the e.g. Samsung's can't.
--> works also good with other IR-blaster apps too.
- microSD-slot
- price compared to known-brand flagships and mid-range devices (bar the oneplus models)
--> the standard Honor 8 (32GB) has a great price/performance-ratio IMHO and there's usually some sale somewhere
--> got mine with a free 64GB card so it was even greater value for money
- camera is good for the price
--> great quick shortcut (with volume-keys or fingerscanner-button)
- EMUI has some nice tricks with the fingerprint-scanner
--> e.g. there's a "safe" to store private files which can be locked/unlocked with fingerprint
- bootloader CAN be unlocked and is fairly easy to root.
--> Huawei themselves supply the unlock codes which is great, isn't it?
- beautifull design. It looks great and the camera is completely flush
- mirrorcast (to non-Samsung TV's) works fine without rooting and tampering with the build.prop
disadvantages.
- it is VERY slippery
- not as fast as particularly Oneplus 3 (and 3T) which cost the same
--> Honor 8 premium cost the same as OnePlus 3/T and has the same internal storage capacity
- some people prefer QHD
--> this doesn't bother me personally but it might be a dealbreaker for some
- no EQ on the standard music app or anywhere else on the device
--> so you need another music-player if you really want this or other audio-enhancements.
- Samsung's still have better camera's for low-light photography especially the S6 (IMHO the S6 is even better than the S7 in this respect)
- no DLNA so you'll need an optional app for this. Though screencast works fine.
--> I tried the old Skifta-app myself from qualcomm and it works great. Unfortunately you have to look hard to find this though asit isn't on Play anymore.
IMHO the Honor 8 is a great little device. Sufficiently powerful and it has most of important points covered.
As for me, the SD-card slot, IR-blaster and the better deal (with a free 64GB card) were the main reasons to go for the Honor8 instead for the OP3T
There's probably a lot more that I haven't covered but I have my device just 4 days so I'm not a "pro" just yet
So I hope this is helpful.
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The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
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Thanks for the long and explained point of view it seems that only on the honor 8 forum people comment on stuff like this because it made a thread on the x perfromance forum still 0 comments . The OP3T is a great phone and comes for about 470 dollars . Over the past few days i've got the conclusion that im not getting the honor 8 because its priced at 420 ish dollars and for and for the same price i can get the xperia which has the SD820 with a 1080p screen so it will perform 23 MP camera will fine compared to my current 12 or i can get for 460 the Zte Axon 7 also with SD820 2k display and amazing audio and if i go even higher i can get the S7 for 490 . But im thinking on not going too far for the S7 because the Xperia and Axon offer the same performance just losing on camera and ips sertification if i got with the axon but it has one of the best if not the best speakers and headphone output.
I just got a used one off of Amazon for $235. Honestly, I think it's worth that price, but I would recommend waiting for MWC at the very least. I only pulled the trigger on it right now because the only other phones in the price range I had (about $200 - $300), were the upcoming MOTO G5 series. I have been using a Moto E 2015, but I felt that since the Honor 8 had higher specs, a better design, a better camera, etc. that it was worth it.
Additionally, I think Huawei promised 2 years of support and the phone just came out, so we will definitely see Android O at the very least (which is pretty great).