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[Q] Help me chose a next phone!

hi, my nexus 4 is aging and i need new one ! it has so many problems
also i asked on the sticky thread, i waited long but got no answer !
I have been away from phone stuff for long, so im not good enough to decide myself. Here are what thought of and i can't decide between them:
1.Nexus 6
2.Note 4 sounds intresting but i kinda feel im gonna hate it after buying it. and i had So many bad memories from Samsung!
3.waiting for new Z ultra
4.Waiting for 810 SoC. this way i get 64-bit , not sure if that means i get some new apps or it makes no difference !
this year was so boring, nothing special(in hardware) but buying stuff like g2 makes me mad ! i want new device i didn't try hard to wait a year only to find out i should have done it long ago
but i saw 805 and 810 have some special capabilities ! (in rendering and graphics) also 810 has some stuff like ultrasonic pen and blablabla , so thats what made me want to wait!
here what i do with phone:
1. Root it
2. Play games
3. Watch movies in it
4. Mostly browse web google stuff check xda for news ect
5. I really really really care about screen quality, but anything more than 450ppi is pointless for me!
6. I want a large device ! larger is better
7. My nexus 4 battery is only a little small for me
8. I [Almost] keep it till it dies
9. As long as its really worth it i can pay, but im saving money for future!
10. I don't care about camera at all! I take no pictures !
11. I need OTG!
Can you guys recommend me some phones with my needs? should i wait? or buy nexus 6, or any other device that i didn't mention?
what will the benefits of waiting for 64-bit be? what devices will feature Snap 810?
oh and One M8 has an old SoC (but lower res, so performance is not much different, but i see 805 has some special game rendering capabilities)

Sewrizer said:
If you don't care about the camera, the Nexus 6 is the better choice. It has a great screen and stereo speakers, thus great gaming and movie experience. The battery is quite good as well, especially with the fast charge feature out of the box.
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so nexus 6 is my main choice for now
what about waiting for 64-bit snap810?
and btw, can you quote me so i get email? now it sounds like i had answers but didn't get notifications
Edit: I don't care about the camera but i heard its actually pretty great great as note 4 and in the top 10!

If you really want an 810 SoC then I'd say wait until next year. I'm hoping that the Galaxy S6 has it. That is if I decide to wait that long.

some guy in sticky answered me about the 64-bit, for now nexus 6 is still my choice

Sewrizer said:
The camera hardware is good. It is the software that lacks some features phones like the Note 4 have. Nexus 6 is a great device in terms of performance, battery and screen, but the camera is "just" decent. By no means, is it to be considered a bad camera, though.
My "speculation" is that qualcomm will launch snapdragon 810 in the late 2015. 805 can't be replaced this soon. They will probably come up with some minor upgrade such as an 806 (like they did with 801) but that's it until note 5/nexus 7 (or whatever the new nexus phone will be named). This is just the way I see it. Mobile industry is very dynamic and rather hard to predict without some information from the inside.
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So nexus 6 it is ! can't wait xD

kamranhaghighi said:
hi, my nexus 4 is aging and i need new one ! it has so many problems
also i asked on the sticky thread, i waited long but got no answer !
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What problems did you have with your Nexus 4 that led you to needing a new phone? Or do you just want a new phone regardless?
kamranhaghighi said:
I have been away from phone stuff for long, so im not good enough to decide myself. Here are what thought of and i can't decide between them:
1.Nexus 6
2.Note 4 sounds intresting but i kinda feel im gonna hate it after buying it. and i had So many bad memories from Samsung!
3.waiting for new Z ultra
4.Waiting for 810 SoC. this way i get 64-bit , not sure if that means i get some new apps or it makes no difference !
this year was so boring, nothing special(in hardware) but buying stuff like g2 makes me mad ! i want new device i didn't try hard to wait a year only to find out i should have done it long ago
but i saw 805 and 810 have some special capabilities ! (in rendering and graphics) also 810 has some stuff like ultrasonic pen and blablabla , so thats what made me want to wait!
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All your list says is that you would like a bigger screen.
I don't understand why you need something special in hardware before a device is worth buying. I mean, what the fcuk do you do with a smartphone...?
kamranhaghighi said:
here what i do with phone:
1. Root it
2. Play games
3. Watch movies in it
4. Mostly browse web google stuff check xda for news ect
5. I really really really care about screen quality, but anything more than 450ppi is pointless for me!
6. I want a large device ! larger is better
7. My nexus 4 battery is only a little small for me
8. I [Almost] keep it till it dies
9. As long as its really worth it i can pay, but im saving money for future!
10. I don't care about camera at all! I take no pictures !
11. I need OTG!
Can you guys recommend me some phones with my needs? should i wait? or buy nexus 6, or any other device that i didn't mention?
what will the benefits of waiting for 64-bit be? what devices will feature Snap 810?
oh and One M8 has an old SoC (but lower res, so performance is not much different, but i see 805 has some special game rendering capabilities)
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*cough*
Sorry, didn't realise you were about to tell us what you do use your smartphone for...
What games do you play? Do they need [almost] desktop-level cpu and gpu chops or, are we talking Angry Birds level of resource usage?
Depending on the games you play a Note3 would probably be overkill already. No need for special hardware.
In the mean time, the screen size and resolution seems to be the main factors so, your list is probably spot on. I'd just add the Vivo PD1305 as perhaps one to watch depending on how open it is and whether it can attract support from developers.
I consider 64-bit only important from a "future-proofing" perspective. All else is marketing fluff.
In your position, I'd just grab a 7" or larger tablet and restrict my phone to a manageable size (and price). Buying both might even be chaeper than the device you end up buying (as long as needs rather than wants are prioritized to inform your purchase.

510
OnePlus One :angel:

What do you think about OnePlus?

MiyagiSan said:
What problems did you have with your Nexus 4 that led you to needing a new phone? Or do you just want a new phone regardless?
All your list says is that you would like a bigger screen.
I don't understand why you need something special in hardware before a device is worth buying. I mean, what the fcuk do you do with a smartphone...?
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Sorry, didn't realise you were about to tell us what you do use your smartphone for...
What games do you play? Do they need [almost] desktop-level cpu and gpu chops or, are we talking Angry Birds level of resource usage?
Depending on the games you play a Note3 would probably be overkill already. No need for special hardware.
In the mean time, the screen size and resolution seems to be the main factors so, your list is probably spot on. I'd just add thetas perhaps one to watch depending on how open it is and whether it can attract support from developers.
I consider 64-bit only important from a "future-proofing" perspective. All else is marketing fluff.
In your position, I'd just grab a 7" or larger tablet and restrict my phone to a manageable size (and price). Buying both might even be chaeper than the device you end up buying (as long as needs rather than wants are prioritized to inform your purchase.
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1. I couldn't install few games on it ! it got slow, it has weird screen issues (shade of what i was seeing , thats not in screenshots) and bad antenna and a little low storage and no otg also i would like to get new decent screen
2. Basically , future proofing !
3. As i said, i have been away from world for a long time basically im gonna go and find some amazing graphics new games and play them like mc5 or nova 3 or ect!
4. i never had a tablet not sure how it feels some apps are diffrent i can't call, (i do it only on emergency but what should i do if it happens?! maybe i get a cheap 1$ backup phone or keep the nexus 4 because im not sure i can sell it) + its big, i mean really big, 6inch can fit into pocket but not 7 but i can just carry a bag with myself :| i don't know! + lte ones are expensive
i don't know about vivo, its not a popular brand!(that doesn't mean its bad, i just have to google about it ) + can't be found on my country
and about oneplus one, its an amazing phone other than weird problems i heard it has on net ! (which i guess is fixed) but sadly, that awesome phone can't be found here its like everything i need, specially designed for me )
i could even end up not finding nexus 6 either, than i would think about waiting for something like z ultra or get htc one m8 or note 4!(wait till it gets cheap or something)

its awesome, but can't find it here
btw HerpingAndDerping , what do you mean by 510 at first?

my nexus 4 isn't fixable ?! let me install lolipop on it
omg, this is the best thing ever ! but sadly usb thether won't work so im back on kitkat till ota releases !

It depends how much money you are willing to give, the place where you live and specs.
The Note 4 or 3 are pretty good, the LG G3 is also good, especially with a bit of tweaking, Nexus 6 is also the prime rival of the Note 4 but its unavailable in alot of places and it might take months for it to appear in places.
The oppo devices are also good, Find 7 and 1+1 notably.
They are all pretty future proof, even a phone from last year is also future proof, because the Snapdragon 800 series SoC is so powerful, it can probably play any game there is out there for mobile.
If money is no issue, go for the Note 4
If money+time is no issue, Nexus 6
If you want good price/performance ratio, go for Oppo devices or LG devices or anything from 2013. The LG G3, at least where I live, is quite cheap compared to its rivals.
Notable mentions, Huawei Ascend series, Sansung Neo series, Acer Liquid series, Lenovo K series, Sony Z ultra. All of them are pretty big and cheap and have good price/performance ratio.
Good luck!

shadowcore said:
It depends how much money you are willing to give, the place where you live and specs.
The Note 4 or 3 are pretty good, the LG G3 is also good, especially with a bit of tweaking, Nexus 6 is also the prime rival of the Note 4 but its unavailable in alot of places and it might take months for it to appear in places.
The oppo devices are also good, Find 7 and 1+1 notably.
They are all pretty future proof, even a phone from last year is also future proof, because the Snapdragon 800 series SoC is so powerful, it can probably play any game there is out there for mobile.
If money is no issue, go for the Note 4
If money+time is no issue, Nexus 6
If you want good price/performance ratio, go for Oppo devices or LG devices or anything from 2013. The LG G3, at least where I live, is quite cheap compared to its rivals.
Notable mentions, Huawei Ascend series, Sansung Neo series, Acer Liquid series, Lenovo K series, Sony Z ultra. All of them are pretty big and cheap and have good price/performance ratio.
Good luck!
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lg g3 gets hot and brings brightness down, it has some other problems as i remember, its battery life isn't good
btw, Oppo devices can't be found here either, only well-known brands ! but even moto phones are barely available, let me see if i can do anything
if not, (if im gonna get 801) i will get htc one m8 ! or even maybe the lg g3 , or even note 4, so , right now all i can do is to wait !
z ultra is amazing ! but only if it was 2k ... (at that size , pixels are huge, but for anything less than 6~ inch its overkill, in my opinion , its even bad ! because it slow downs device and drains battery !)
if i get non nexus i have to wait long for lolipop, and also, i want amoled phone for new lolipop features
what is the tweaking are you talking about?!

shadowcore said:
It depends how much money you are willing to give, the place where you live and specs.
The Note 4 or 3 are pretty good, the LG G3 is also good, especially with a bit of tweaking, Nexus 6 is also the prime rival of the Note 4 but its unavailable in alot of places and it might take months for it to appear in places.
The oppo devices are also good, Find 7 and 1+1 notably.
They are all pretty future proof, even a phone from last year is also future proof, because the Snapdragon 800 series SoC is so powerful, it can probably play any game there is out there for mobile.
If money is no issue, go for the Note 4
If money+time is no issue, Nexus 6
If you want good price/performance ratio, go for Oppo devices or LG devices or anything from 2013. The LG G3, at least where I live, is quite cheap compared to its rivals.
Notable mentions, Huawei Ascend series, Sansung Neo series, Acer Liquid series, Lenovo K series, Sony Z ultra. All of them are pretty big and cheap and have good price/performance ratio.
Good luck!
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let me read some LG g3 reviews But i really like one m8, but its a little expensive. But i always had amazing memories from HTC phones except the late updates (let me see if there are custom roms for it, or see if i can turn it into GPA). Also G3 doesn't seem so bad, expect the heat and battery :| (and maybe performance?)

shadowcore said:
It depends how much money you are willing to give, the place where you live and specs.
The Note 4 or 3 are pretty good, the LG G3 is also good, especially with a bit of tweaking, Nexus 6 is also the prime rival of the Note 4 but its unavailable in alot of places and it might take months for it to appear in places.
The oppo devices are also good, Find 7 and 1+1 notably.
They are all pretty future proof, even a phone from last year is also future proof, because the Snapdragon 800 series SoC is so powerful, it can probably play any game there is out there for mobile.
If money is no issue, go for the Note 4
If money+time is no issue, Nexus 6
If you want good price/performance ratio, go for Oppo devices or LG devices or anything from 2013. The LG G3, at least where I live, is quite cheap compared to its rivals.
Notable mentions, Huawei Ascend series, Sansung Neo series, Acer Liquid series, Lenovo K series, Sony Z ultra. All of them are pretty big and cheap and have good price/performance ratio.
Good luck!
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i just remembered. 805 has some awesome rendering stuff, so some games might come for it! so i will get an adreno 420(805) SoC

Dude buy nexus 6 is pro phone

Go for Nexus 6
kamranhaghighi said:
hi, my nexus 4 is aging and i need new one ! it has so many problems
also i asked on the sticky thread, i waited long but got no answer !
I have been away from phone stuff for long, so im not good enough to decide myself. Here are what thought of and i can't decide between them:
1.Nexus 6
2.Note 4 sounds intresting but i kinda feel im gonna hate it after buying it. and i had So many bad memories from Samsung!
3.waiting for new Z ultra
4.Waiting for 810 SoC. this way i get 64-bit , not sure if that means i get some new apps or it makes no difference !
this year was so boring, nothing special(in hardware) but buying stuff like g2 makes me mad ! i want new device i didn't try hard to wait a year only to find out i should have done it long ago
but i saw 805 and 810 have some special capabilities ! (in rendering and graphics) also 810 has some stuff like ultrasonic pen and blablabla , so thats what made me want to wait!
here what i do with phone:
1. Root it
2. Play games
3. Watch movies in it
4. Mostly browse web google stuff check xda for news ect
5. I really really really care about screen quality, but anything more than 450ppi is pointless for me!
6. I want a large device ! larger is better
7. My nexus 4 battery is only a little small for me
8. I [Almost] keep it till it dies
9. As long as its really worth it i can pay, but im saving money for future!
10. I don't care about camera at all! I take no pictures !
11. I need OTG!
Can you guys recommend me some phones with my needs? should i wait? or buy nexus 6, or any other device that i didn't mention?
what will the benefits of waiting for 64-bit be? what devices will feature Snap 810?
oh and One M8 has an old SoC (but lower res, so performance is not much different, but i see 805 has some special game rendering capabilities)
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If you don't really care for The camera... and you want bigger device... Go for NEXUS 6!!!!

freak4android said:
If you don't really care for The camera... and you want bigger device... Go for NEXUS 6!!!!
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Lol that's my plan for now! I hope it will be available

kamranhaghighi said:
Lol that's my plan for now! I hope it will be available
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Yes! Good luck

freak4android said:
Yes! Good luck
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thanks ! will post back here if went into trouble!

Want to sell OPO, what to get instead?

HI all, am thinking selling my OPO but have no idea what other phone to get while waiting for OnePlus Two
It has to be cheap (~100 $/€) and support custom roms, thats all i am asking! (am flashaholic, so can not live without it )
Any tips what should I go for? THX!!!

Moto G is always a good choice. Tons of support for ROMs and kernels and such. Also, the boot loader is easily unlocked. It's more than your price tag, but you'll be much happier with it's flexibility and more powerful processor.

Nexus 6

otacon239 said:
Moto G is always a good choice. Tons of support for ROMs and kernels and such. Also, the boot loader is easily unlocked. It's more than your price tag, but you'll be much happier with it's flexibility and more powerful processor.
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plus they have consistent speedy updates of new android versions, decent batterylife etc, etc.
just a small screen

Should I assume that despite your moniker that you do not currently own a Nexus 5? If that's the case, get your hands on a used Nexus 4. Tons of ROMs, kernels, mods, etc. A Galaxy S3 (with Snapdragon and 2gb RAM, not the Exynos one) wouldn't be a bad option either.

Go for Motorola and Nexus devices. They have plenty of custom rom support.
and fast when it comes to OS updates too.

this seems nice, dunno about updates though http://www.phonearena.com/news/Affo...edge-specs-and-fingerprint-ID-for-200_id68130

bachera said:
this seems nice, dunno about updates though http://www.phonearena.com/news/Affo...edge-specs-and-fingerprint-ID-for-200_id68130
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Very cheap, been checking these out too. Would love to try one out, some nice features.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Elep...GHz-Smartphone-13-0MP-Dual-Camera-344057.html

gsmyth said:
Very cheap, been checking these out too. Would love to try one out, some nice features.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Elep...GHz-Smartphone-13-0MP-Dual-Camera-344057.html
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take a note of their presale, they had another one on 11th of May
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/04/24/...tedposts_origin=84489&relatedposts_position=0
not sure of they will ever have dev support though, due to the mediatek stuff. That kinda is a dealbreaker for me.
their upcoming models next month are also interesting, more expensive though.
browse the gizchina site, they got tons of info on Chinese phones

bachera said:
take a note of their presale
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/04/24/...tedposts_origin=84489&relatedposts_position=0
not sure of they will have dev support though
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Yea its never going to be anywhere near the OPO. I did see a video of it running CM12 though, again though who knows if you'll be able to get hold of it.

Thank you all guys, am wondering getting some "china" phone, but seems like there is a problem with MediaTek CPU/chipset - the support of custom roms is quite small if none for some CPU/chipset/phones.
Can anyone explain me to this. If to get a phone with Mediatek chip, which one to get for widest custom rom support? Or is it like that the only thing matter is the model of CPU and custom rom working on specific CPU will work fine on other phone with same CPU?

Try the Oppo Find 7A or 7. Same device in a sense, only it has native Color OS (and no touchscreen issues). Sadly, NO LTE on some carriers. I think the Find 7 is $500 while the 7A is $400. In the US, hard to get, but not impossible, trust me. The 7 is QHD (2K resolution) while the 7A is 1080p. For that case, I went with the 7A as it packs more of a punch.
Or the Xiaomi Mi3W or Mi4, the native MIUI phones. Again, lack of LTE on US carriers but trust me, they are very fast, unique and a breath of fresh air since stock ("vanilla" android) TouchWiz, Optimus UI and Sense have gotten boring. Pricing varies, but average from $300 to $400, just watch out where you order it from.
Lastly, the Moto X 2014 packs quite a punch and a beautiful display, and you have a good warranty back up. Be sure to skip the Verizon model (XT1096) as it cannot have its bootloader unlocked and root is VERY limited. They can now be ordered for as little as $400 for the 16GB or $450 for the 32GB, and customized options do not affect pricing unless you opt in for accessories.
I cannot recommend the Nexus 5 as it had very aggressive thermal throttling, so you never experience the 2.3GHz at its fullest, it has also been pulled out of Google's lineup. The HTC One M8 is a MARVELOUS device, and very lag free, however, it has heat issues, sometimes they begin over a short amount of time and that heat will QUICKLY deteriorate the battery. The LG G3 has a nice display, however, it is a lag machine. You really can not use it for 3D games. The G2 is also old and problematic. The G Flex 1 is still worth considering, but it is HUGE, the POLED display is very prone to burned in imaged if not properly taken care of, the curved display is weird to some and it has a 720p resolution. It is however pretty darn great. The G Flex 2 sports a Snapdragon 810, but that is not a good thing. It has been noted that the 810 heats up ALOT, which is why the Xiaomi Mi5 might use the 808 and the G4 is confirmed to have gone with the 808. The Galaxy S5 and Note 3 have very slow UI animations and overall do not have great performance. The bloatware on them is also through the roof. The newer Note 4, Note Edge, S6 and S6 Edge are just too pricey. The Nexus 6 is a HUGE Moto X 2014, but it has a bit of a price tag, and if your hands are not as big as mine, you can forget it. It has superb performance. The Droid Turbo is beginning to meet its end at high prices when it comes to used ones, but again, no bootloader unlock and root is limited.
I would REALLY recommend sticking to it for a while longer as the OnePlus Two is around the corner, the Moto X 2015 is already being rumored, the Xiaomi Mi5 MIGHT enter the US market (if your in the USA) and so on. It might also be a bad idea to hold on to it as the release of the OnePlus Two will mean fans of the OnePlus One will want to sell theirs to get the newer one, and the used value of it will drop significantly or become a challenge to get rid of.

After using your mate 8 would you recommend others to buy one?

I was wondering right now after you have used mate 8 for quite some time Would you recommend others to do so?
:fingers-crossed:

Yes. I bought a nexus 6p rooted it and loved it but the moment I picked up the mate 8, I haven't taken the 6p out of its box. And the 6p is a great phone

Yes I would definitely suggest to get one?

Best android phone i ever had but best to try it before purchase to check if the size is Ok.

Aboslutely YES!
I got a 128Gb NXT-AL10.. Installed International firmware, TWRP and rooted.
TOP PHONE!

yep, i think i would have regretted getting the 6P (which i intended to buy at first) when the mate 8´s specs became public
awesome phone and not looking back!
only 3 things to consider:
-can you deal with the size? true, its got a nice screen-to-body ratio with tiny bezels, but its still a big phone!
- secondly, can you arrange yourself with EMUI? and if not, are you willing to tinker with the system to adjust it to your needs and wants?
- lastly, the GPU is "only" mainstream, so if u want highend graphics and are a mobile gamer, u might want to wait for upcoming SD or exynos devices...
on the other hand, if your focus is primarily on battery life, super smooth day to day operation, the fastest mobile cpu on the planet (indeed, even faster than upcoming SD820 and exynos8890!) a HUGE display with superthin bezels and super crisp, clear and vivid colors, then this is definitely for you!

Got a Mocha Gold 4/64gb version and I simply love the phone. Since I have been using Mi Note Pro before, I do not see whats wrong with Huawei's EMUI (albeit tons of complaints web-wide).
Not too sure about mainstream reviews, but mine came along with a rapid charger and flip case+generic screen protector. Some online reviews were *****ing about not having the rapid charger in the package.
On the other hand, for the un-initiated, the GPU on the mate 8 may look like crap vs the SD or Exynos. But after testing it on my Mi Note Pro (SD 810 SoC), I discovered the Mate 8 does not throttle (or a little) when compared to it, after prolonged game play.
My Mi Note Pro, starts to heats up really fast and you can tell the throttling a few minutes into GPU intensive games.
I am not sure about Exynos or the latest SD820 SoC devices, but based on Tom's hardwareRead the Article here
Quote:
"Looking at these results adds new context to HiSilicon's decision to use a quad-core GPU in the Kirin 950. By focusing on sustained performance rather than peak performance, a somewhat risky decision from a marketing standpoint, the Kirin 950 actually provides similar, if not better, performance after a few minutes of gameplay as compared to some other high-end SoCs, such as the Exynos 7420 or Snapdragon 810, at least when paired with a 1080p display like in the Mate 8."
In fact I am very pleased with its Antutu Benchmark results, boasting 97k by another member in another thread, with mine somewhere around 92k stock un-modded.
Cheerios!!

Does the Mate 8 have multi-user profiles by default? If not are you able to somehow activate them?

I wouldn't recommend because of the notifications bug. People who don't dive deep into settings will miss emails, messages, etc.

In this case, this is not a mate 8 bug but an android 6 bug.
See posts about nexus 6p and others

I would recommend it to most people. If having the best camera is important to you then I would pass. Everything else is great with the phone except the camera doesn't take sharp enough photos. They look sharp on the phone screen but transfer them anywhere else and you'll see how sharp they aren't compared to other phones.

That's an issue, that hopefully will soon be fixed!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review/8

Why you conisder a rooted phone is great .

how does The Honor 8 stands against this ??

Hey , I'm about to buy a new smartphone and I'm wondering which smartphone will be the best for 300 bucks.
So what I want is a solid build smartphone ,weight doesn't bother me .A powerful CPU and sufficient RAM for Browsing internet,Watching Youtube, Social Media(Multitasking) and playing occasionnaly some games (asphalt,..) .A good Camera I don't care about low light or recording 4K videos I just want some Good Pictures ,more details and sharpness and accurate autofocus since I will use it for social media. And a durable Battery at least one day without charging !!! ; and a loud speakers not the loudest as the Axon 7 but at least audible.
After many searches I found that the Mi 5s is the best, but I heard that some users have encountered some problems with the fingerprint scanner , 4G connectivity , and battery draining too fast, and Problems with multitasking as the phone had to reload apps everytime , I dunno if it's a problem of some units or general.
But I also found these Smartphones : Leeco Le Pro 3, Leeco Le Max 2, Zuk Z2 , Honor 8 , ASUS Zenfone 3, Meizu Pro6, Huawei Honor V8 , Xiaomi Mi 5 , Zte Nubia 11 ,..., if u know something else in this price range please tell me.
So My Priorities are Performance , Camera , Solid Build , Battery , Audio .
Please Guys , tell me which smartphone can handle my needs ? is Mi 5s better than those listed above ?
PS: My Provider 4G bands are 800/1800/1600 Mhz
Could please answer to the pool below
Thanks in advance.

The vote will be undoubtedly biased in favor of the Honor 8

That's a whole lot a phones you're inquiring about... why don't you do your own research by reading the threads that already been created in the various phones forums you listed.
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shook187 said:
That's a whole lot a phones you're inquiring about... why don't you do your own research by reading the threads that already been created in the various phones forums you listed.
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I know but most of the reviews are kind of sponsored or presented by fanboys !! So I need help with the community to help me choose the best for me.
I have reduced the list to 4 devices
Honor 8 (4gb) , huawei P9 (3gb) , Oneplus 3 , Axon 7 (4gb) !
I want best performance in day to day tasks , good battery , good daylight camera stills , good display , and acceptable sound

HONOR 8 <3

I did my own research but with the following devices: S7 Edge, ZTE Axon 7, ASUS Zenfone 3 Laser, Moto Z Play, OnePlus 3T and HTC 10.
I ended up getting Honor 8 as the EMUI skin is much better (and smoother) than other OEMs skins. Device just looks so much better than other devices of it's range like Axon, OP 3T etc., Looking forward to the dual cameras as well. I don't listen to music via speakers so lack of front facing speakers was not an issue for me.
Also figured while I wait for S8 Unlocked (which could take probably the end of next year in the USA), I can enjoy Honor 8 until then. The company also recently revealed that Honor 8 will receive updates for 2 years.
The only frustration I had was dealing with notifications but after playing around with it, I have set it to work the way I want.
Hope this helps.

I previously had a Galaxy S7 and wasn't impressed with their variant of Android. Overall I've been impressed with the Honor 8. Despite technically being slower specs wise than the Snapdragon 820, this phone is far more fluid than most other phones I've used. Typically in my experience when manufacturers customize Android and skin it to their liking it seems the end result is a bogged down mess but it's different with the Honor 8.
After having the Honor 8 for a couple of weeks as my daily driver here are my impressions of it.
Pros:
1. The CPU is extremely efficient and performs great.
2. The design is very impressive and sleek. I really enjoy that the phone is completely linear and flat. It feels very balanced in the hand and using it is comfortable.
3. The fingerprint sensor is accurate and quick. I've never seen a fingerprint sensor as fast as this one is.
4. Despite being iOS themed everything is efficiently placed in the UI and fits together very well in my opinion.
5. There is very little bloat that needs to be removed unlike other phones.
6. It only cost me $300 with a case, extra cable and charger.
Cons:
1. The stock launcher should be replaced with something like Pixel or Nova launcher.
2. If you decide on the Honor 8 then I will advise a case, but definitely get a clear one so you can still see the beautiful glass back
Since you can get this phone for less then when it first came out it's really a power house with practical features that make using this phone a dream.
As far as the lack of development... Unless you get a Nexus phone, nowadays there isn't much to gain from going to custom roms. You tend to lose features and functionality on phones like these when using custom. Truthfully, I believe the age of needing custom roms is coming to an end because of this. Huawei is also an excellent manufacturer in which they seem intent on making sure their phones get updated properly.

I own a honor 8, and I am surprised that it beat S7, G5...etc in performance.
Plus when you set it on smart mode, the SOT is just crazy (7-8h usually). And it multitasks very well for me (some apps, chrome, youtube and a game) without reloading

I'd go for the Honor 8 as the HiSIlicon Kirin 950 SOC used in it, is a very powerfull SOC.

Hey.
I got an Honor 8 without looking at all the specs (I got offered it on a good contract)
Since I got it I had fallen in love with it.
I'm on the UK beta N programme and it's the first phone I have ever had that I hadn't rooted and put custom ROMs into.
I have found that with the options for using themes and fonts that I can customise it as much as i want and the EMUI 5 is nothing like the EMUI 4 (IOS)
The battery life ain't what I thought it was gonna be but then it's still a beta program..
I know Honor have invested in a development scene both on XDA and MoDaco so they must be up for releasing thier source code.
I'm not sure about the specs for gaming etc but I would say that it's a great phone.
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

le pro 3, better rom support and has a snapdragon. or honor 8 if youre not bothered with flashing roms

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le pro 3, better rom support and has a snapdragon. or honor 8 if youre not bothered with flashing roms
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Have you had played with both phones, who's better?! (Apart from ROM support)

Aside from 3D gaming the Kirin 950 seems to be faster than the Snapdragon 820 at basically everything...

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Aside from 3D gaming the Kirin 950 seems to be faster than the Snapdragon 820 at basically everything...
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Yes, youtube videos proved it. Plus I've put my honor 8 against a LG G5 and S7 edge, both were slower than my honor 8

Honor 8 or ZTE Axon 7 for daily smartphone?

I know it's hard to get unbiased responses from device specific forums, but I was wondering if anyone has any real world experience with both devices.
I've had the Honor 8 for a little over a week now and overall I am happy with it.
Things I like:
- design
- finger print location, responsiveness, and customized buttons
- battery life
- speaker quality (wasn't expecting much, so it was better than expected)
- EMUI, there are some things I'm not crazy for but there's a few useful features like intensive app notifications and some Huawei apps are solid enough to not delete
- no complaints about overall performance
Now the Axon 7 popped up on sale for a good price and I am thinking maybe I should go that route while I can still exchange the Honor.
The biggest thing keeping me tempted is the Snapdragon 820 vs the Kirin 950. I know the GPU is a bit weaker in the Honor but I wouldn't play any intensive games that would make it a breaking point.
So if anyone can answer any of these I would really appreciate it!
- Size: I never loved huge phones, but a lot of manufactures seem to have made it work. In pictures the Axon 7 doesn't look too much bigger than the H8, and it actually seems a bit more ergonomic to hold.
- Camera: I have an iPhone 7 for a work phone so this device's camera isn't the top priority. But for everyday shots here and there, can anyone tell me their impressions?
- Display quality: 1440p and AMOLED is nice, but doesn't really equate to a better display. The H8's LCD is pretty nice but color accuracy seems to be a bit all over the place. Hoping the Axon does a better job here.
- Speed: this is the biggest thing for me I suppose. How much of a noticeable difference there is (if at all) between the two phones. I imagine multicore scores don't really impact me as much for how I use the phone, but single core efficiency is important. The iPhone 7's speed has definitely impressed me, but still, I don't want to feel like I am going to a much slower device when swapping phones.
Sorry for the long post, just want to make sure I stick with the best bang for the buck. Thanks guys.

I have had the Axon 7 for a few months, and just got the Honor 8 yesterday. So I haven't had much time with the Honor 8, but I'll point out a few things. I have the Spigen rugged armor case on both, so they look very similar because of that.
1). Battery life on both is great IMO.
2). Axon 7 is definitely heavier, but doesn't look that much bigger. It does feel bigger though.
3). Auto brightness on the Honor 8 seems to go dim randomly and then slowly increase to the right brightness again.
4). My first impressions of the Honor 8 camera is that it is noticeably better. Especially in lower light.
5). The display on the Honor 8 is very nice. However IMO the Axon 7 display is excellent and of similar brightness.
6). The Honor 8 is very snappy. Axon 7 is snappier.
7). Axon 7 has double tap to wake. I wish it had double tap to sleep. I love both features, and one is better than none. Honor 8 has neither. I came from an LG V10 that had both.
8). Axon 7 has hardware capacitive keys that are not backlit. Bad choice IMO. Honor 8 has the onscreen buttons that I'm used to. I wish Axon 7 had an option to activate onscreen buttons.
Of course being used to the Axon 7 means that I'm biased with things that are different. When you have notifications on the statusbar at the top, on the Axon 7, it's the application's icon. On the Honor 8, it mixes them up a bit sometimes, for example including the senders picture on a FB messenger notification. IMO that can get confusing. Also, on the Honor 8, they're really small. Not sure why the Axon 7's seem so much larger when the screen is only 0.3" larger diagonally.
The Axon 7's front facing speakers will blow you away if you're used to an iPhone or the Honor 8.
Even though the Axon 7 gets lots of criticism for its software, I still feel it's closer to stock Android than the Honor 8. But when you go to settings, you get this "frequently used" setting tab that you cannot avoid. And it has nothing to do with frequently used - they just put a screenful of setting choices there, so I always switch to the other tab which has all the settings.

Thank you for the info! Lol, I just wish it made the decision easier for me.
But you bring up a couple main points I've been curious about.
How big does the Axon 7 feel compared to the H8? Huge phones turn me off, but the Axon seems decent considering it's 5.5"
And snappiness... is the speed with everyday use noticeable for you? I know you just got the device. This might be the biggest reason I lean towards the Axon 7.

I was considering the honor 8 vs the axon but went fwith the honor 8. This was an "upgrade" from a nexus 6p. From a size standpoint I love the 5in screen on the honor. It looks just as good as as my 6p almost and the battery life is better. As for the speakers I agree that the axon will blow away pretty much anything else on the market. As for the speed the honor is noticable faster then the 6p abit for the gpu which is a bit slower however it is livewithable if you play games. After the upgrade to android 7 on the honor the entire device become snappier. Honestly you are a fan of the form factor I would stick with the honor as there really isnt anything better out at the moment plus it is rootable if you are into that.

OP, what market are you in and what is your local price point?
I'm in the U.S. The Axon 7 (not mini) is listed at 399.00 + tax. I bring the price up because it is so close to the OP3T's price point, 439.00. It's worth looking into if you are already close at 400 bones with the A7. 40 bucks to future proof?
Bit of comparison, 3-way:
RAM. The OP3T has 6gb of lpddr4, the A7 has 4gb of lpddr4, the H8 has 4gb lpddr3. I don't think you will see a big difference in daily use, but the DDR4 is certainly faster and more future proof.
CPU/GPU. The OP3T has a Snapdragon 821 w/Adreno 530, the A7 has the Snapdragon 820 w/ Adreno 530, the H8 has the Kirin 950 w/Mali T880. As far as benchmark goes, the 950 trumps the 820/821. The Adreno however, kills the Mali, so intended usage matters here, and can be a decision maker.
Storage. The OP3T comes with 64gb storage, at the opening price point, but I don't believe it's expandable. The A7 starts with 64gb, expandable. And the H8 opens with 64gb, expandable.
Aesthetics. The A7, to me, is uglier than an Alabama Lot Lizard. The OP3T, well, it isn't ugly, but it isn't a work of art. The H8 is gorgeous, balanced, sized well for the average hand, and more slippery than a wet bar of soap in an oil factory.
Battery. I can only speak for the H8. I don't take a charger with me and I don't run out of battery through out the day. I have Bluetooth running, connected to my watch and headphones. I have wifi and GPS on all day, I listen to podcasts and Spotify for nearly 8 hours daily. I play video games during lunch...No problem.
Modding. I don't really have to say it, the OP3 line has the attention of several talented devs...and a lot of mid-range support guys like myself.
Why don't I have the OP3T? Mostly, I'm out of my bleeding-edge modding phase. The H8 is solid, inexpensive and a thing of beauty. I'm still within my 30 day return period, but the Nougat update is acting nicely and I doubt I'll return it.

Wow, thank you for the replies.
I guess I read wrong, but I swore the 64gb variant of the H8 had 4GB of DDR4 memory. That was actually something I was interested with and definitely overlooked by a lot of people (most reviewers don't even specify ram type).
Does the 950 really out do the Snapdragon 820? I saw a few benchmarks that made me scratch my head. For CPU benches, Geekbench 4 seems to be the go to. I swear I saw some where the 820 in the A7 scores quite a bit higher for single core speeds.
And yeah, I'm not crazy about the design of the ZTE. A phone's design never turned me against it, but I appreciate a good looking device. The Honor definitely wins in the looks department.
Since I have the freedom to use my iPhone 7 work phone basically like a personal (too many customer/work calls made me have to get a 2nd phone), I don't want to go into big $$ for a secondary device. I wanted to stay about under $400.
The 64gb H8 I got for $320 and the A7 I can get for $350. Didn't want to jump out of that range too much.
I used to root phones and mess with roms a few years back but anymore something stable is fine for me. I haven't received the 7.0 update yet on the H8.
Thanks again!

The RAM in the 64gb H8 might be DDR4. I've seen both stated. What I can say is that it benchmarks like DDR3, so that's what I assumed it was. But maybe there is an app or adb command that can provide proof.
Benchmark apps, I think they are well intended, but not exactly a precise prediction of what daily use is like. I've had my scores change by significant numbers, just by running a benchmark twice. Heck, my overall AnTuTu jumped up 6k after I took the B360 update, via Firmware Finder. I take them with a grain of salt.

Good point. I usually am the same way with benchmarks. People rating a phone off of app launching speed tests drives me a bit nuts too.
"Hey, YouTube loaded faster on this 4.7" 1080 device than this 5.5" 1440p phone, even though the latter has to load more content and pixels. First phone,bel faster phone." *sigh*

Just for confirmation, this screenshot is from the Hihonor website. LPDDR3.

Interesting. Wonder if it's region related. Anandtech's review lists ddr4, and while a typo could be assumed, they even comment on it.
"The Honor 8 does make the jump to LPDDR4 RAM, although it’s unlikely this will improve performance because the Kirin 950 and its quad-core GPU are not bandwidth limited."
Anandtech is usually pretty accurate, but who knows?
I downloaded to 7.0 just a few minutes ago. Didn't dig in much, but it seems like a pretty well thought out update.

Unless the CPU/GPU are being held back by memory bandwidth, which Anandtech says isn't the case for the Honor 8, then the only difference would be better battery life and less heat produced with LPDDR4. Since the Honor 8 has good to excellent battery life in general and phones don't overheat because of the RAM (so far as I've ever heard at least) if it does have LPDDR3 it's not making much of a difference.
I'm not sure at what rate memory consumption is growing on Android phones, but with 4 GB of RAM I'm only seeing about half of it used by applications. I don't play any intensive 3D games though, so I can't say how much those use while running. But I'd guess you'll probably be OK with 4 GB for probably at least a year and a half or two years from now. And you will probably want to upgrade because of new hardware features, faster CPU/GPU, software updates, etc by the time 4 GB just isn't cutting it anymore.
The Axon 7 and OP3 were the two other phones I was contemplating before getting an Honor 8 (well those two and the Moto X 2016 which ended up not ever coming into existence and the Pixel which ended up costing more than twice what I wanted to spend configured how I wanted it). The Axon 7 had some complaints in the reviews (back in August) about the Lock Screen Notification bell thing, being slippery in the hand, and the navigation buttons being too close together, and concerns about software updates. The OP3 had no Micro SD card and I wasn't comfortable being capped at 64 GB of space (I'm using ~47/96 GB available in my Honor 8, so it would have been fine in retrospect) and was out of stock in the beginning of October when I wanted to buy one. The Honor 8 I'd heard bad things about EMUI 4.1, how slippery in the hand it was (with a glass back!), and was concerned about software updates. But the Sapphire Blue is super pretty and I could see/feel one in person at a nearby Best Buy and have it that day without sales tax or shipping. So the Honor 8's what I ended up going with and I'm happy with it.
If 3D performance is important to you I'd go with the Axon 7 or OP3T. They're both a LOT faster at it. If custom ROMs and modding are important to you I'd go with the OP3T. There's a much larger active community working on it.
And if you go with the Honor 8 or Axon 7: Get a case. I've never held an Axon 7, but people who have say it's as slippery as the Honor 8 (which is to say very).

The A7 doesn't feel much bigger. But the screen looks bigger. I think it's because it has less wasted space above and below the display. So it feels a little bigger, but I think if the proportions of space above and below the display were equal, it would feel much bigger. Luckily that's not the case. Keep in mind that I came from the LG V10, and that felt like a big phone. It was gigantic. But I loved that phone.
As for snappiness, I have also seen the benchmarks. But not until after I had made my judgement. Purely anecdotal. When I got the H8, it seemed fine to me. Nice and snappy. A few hours later I went to the A7 to see if I had a certain app installed that I would also put on the H8. So I went to the app drawer and started scrolling through. That's when I noticed how fast the A7 is. I have Nova Prime on both, so it shouldn't be a difference between ZTE and Honor launchers.
Not sure if I messed up or not, but I set the Google Clock alarm for 5am. It never went off, and it was gone from the statusbar this morning. I'll have to experiment more. H8 has a "protected apps" section that may be why this happened. I just went in there and changed it so that the Google Clock is protected. And the Google Calendar widget was still displaying as if the current day is yesterday, so I just went in and protected that too. I'll see if that changes things. BTW, the A7 has aggressive power management issues as well.
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And if you go with the Honor 8 or Axon 7: Get a case. I've never held an Axon 7, but people who have say it's as slippery as the Honor 8 (which is to say very).
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It is. I was able to find the same model case for both, so they both look at least somewhat similar in their cases. And they're no longer slippery. Unfortunately both beautiful phones may as well be ugly plastic ones now.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXTROW1/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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IMO both phones are great - I just need to get used to some of the differences that Honor has included in EMUI. Neither of my phones have Nougat, so that should hopefully change both for the better. They are different though. And both have SD card slots. This is why One Plus was never an option for me, nor would iPhone, nor would any of the Nexus phones have ever been. Even the Pixel.

Honor 8 is snappier than OnePlus 3 (not the T version):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvRFaIEUba0
OnePlus 3 is snappier than Axon 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvRFaIEUba0
Games aside, honor 8 is much snappier than Axon 7.
Axon 7 has much better audio though.

Games aside, honor 8 is much snappier than Axon 7.
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Based on a benchmark. Some phones cheat on those.
I didn't run any benchmarks. I'm just saying that my perception was that the A7 is quicker than the H8 when scrolling through the Nova app drawer with the grid size altered from default to be 5x6.
Just ran a simple test. Opened FB on both, and opened a web page on both. H8 won. That was after clearing apps using the multitask button. Opened Google Play on both, A7 won. Opened Google Maps on both, A7 won.
Probably not a great test though, since between the time I made my last post earlier, my A7 has been updated to Nougat and the H8 is still on Marshmallow.

The Honor 8 is a great phone... If you're content with EMUI. If you're looking for a custom roms the Axon 7 has more. The GPU on the Axon 7 is far superior to the Honor 8 (which means it'll last longer performance wise), but the CPU on the Honor 8 is substantially better than the SD820.
The Axon 7 has better built in speakers and a better display than the Honor 8.
Overall the only real difference comes to whether or not you can stand EMUI for as long as you have the phone. If you want functioning Lineage, the Axon 7 is the better choice.

One other thing that may be a minor point worth thinking about is the quick charging.
I haven't tried the included adapter yet. But since this does not have a Qualcomm chip, it is not Quick Charge compatible. So Honor has its own method of accomplishing the same thing. If you're like me and various family members have Qualcomm based devices, you may have invested in a Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0 portable charger, wall charger, car charger. I have done that with all 3 of my examples. None of these are going to charge the H8 quickly. It would be nice if there were a single non-proprietary standard.